"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants."
What about countries ruled by tyrants that claim their powers extend from God? Isn't that even worse? I think it's funny when someone actually believes that the world is going to go to hell if the US stops believing in Jesus. We're already going to hell.
America was formed on Christian principles, not Buddhist principles. It is a Christian country and it is defined and based on those assumptions. If you change that, then the assumptions loose their value. If you can change those assumptions, you can deny people their rights.
Hey buddy have you ever read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? The United States is not a christian country. It is a SECULAR country that happened to be formed by christians. Because they were christians, a lot of christian culture found its way into law but there is no reason to keep it that way. Why not bring our national character more in line with the ideals we put forth? Tradition doesn't make the wrong right.
Besides that I'd like to know how you think taking the words "under god" out of the constitution is denying anyone's rights. If anything you are denying rights to people by leaving it in. If you are really that worried about people's rights then you're on the wrong side of the argument.
Because, if you haven't noticed, about 90%+ of the citizens of the United States want to leave it as it is now. It's a non-important reference that does not establish any religion yet some vocal minority has their panty in a bunch. Sorry, the rights of the minority have to be protected--but that doesn't mean the tradition of the majority has to be modified or destroyed because a few people can't handle the tradition most of us grew up with.
What about slavery and other traditions people grew up with? Should we have just respected traditions instead of fighting for the right thing? I know that slavery and the pledge of allegiance are two totally different things BUT the fact remains that a seperation of church and state is constiutional and we should respect those laws to their fullest extent. The sooner we change our culture to respect what we say we believe in, the sooner we will accept those changes.
I have to call BS. My mother worked for a very large Insurance Company and they didn't have nearly that many people who knew COBOL. 30 a year is excessive for any company.
At least the people who still bitch about the 2000 election have a reason to. Gore took credit for the funding of the Internet because he took the initiative to get funding for it. Before Gore got involved it was still Arpanet. He never claimed that he invented it, only that he was a major factor in its creation, which he was and you should be thankful or else you wouldn't be able to spread your filthy lies on slashdot.
Yet, at another time, the Sudanese government offered to hand over Osama for free. Clinton refused. In this, he got a lot closer than Bush did to getting Osama, and he deliberately let him go.
That's false. When the US government looked into these claims from a Sudanese informant they were told by the Sudanese governement that it was not true and they would not hand him over.
We're still reeling from the recession that started in Clinton's time. We can move passt Clinton once we can shake free of the great damage of his policies. Clinton' still running around the country lying about things in an effort to block economic recovery.
HAHA. Clinton's 8 years in office resulted in the biggest growth in the history of any nation. The bubble burst when George took over and the tax cuts for the rich won't do any good. I thought we learned in the 80's (when Regean tripled the national debt) that trickle down economics (aka voodoo economics) doesn't work. It's unfortunate that the bottom 60 percent only get 14 percent of the tax break.
You're only fooling yourself and others just as uninformed as you.
Actually you are totally wrong. The AP did a detailed study of the vote and concluded that Gore won the vote no matter how you counted it. The state of Florida explicitly allows recounts but the Supreme Court decided to end the recounts because if the vote got certified in time it could not be challenged. They decided it was more important to install Bush as President to keep the presidency from being challenged in congress. The Republicans bussed in people from other states to cause riots and stop the recounts. The IRS confirms that the Bush recount committee paid people to riot and three of the rioters are now on the White House staff.
As an MBA and proud founder of a failed startup, I read this more of a quote that I had memorized, but did not realize until we were packing it in: "they were a solution looking for a problem". Looking back and forward, I would much rather have a mediocre solution to a problem that people are desperate to resolve than a brilliant solution to a problem that nobody really cares about. If the customer is desperate, you only have to meet them half way with a fair price to make a quick sale. If the customer isn't totally convinced that they have a problem then you need to get ready for a long, involved, and financially depressing sales process. A perfect example of a painful problem with a desperate customer that he did talk about: the inability to secure systems from attack. People are in pain and they are actively looking for solutions. Come up with something decent in this area and the world will use your stuff (aka beat a path to your door).
I think you are making his point for him. It's good for business to make a mediocre solution but it's bad for technology. Technology for the general public is so far behind what it could be because people don't even know about its capabilities and don't care. Then when something new finally does come along everyone says "Why didn't we have this earlier?". Because no one cared about technology until it solved a problem for them. It makes perfect business sense but no technological sense.
Cobol is still alive and well in many business-oriented computing environments. There are Cobol programmers working in the office down the hall from me. New systems implementations in Cobol continue today.
Please tell me where. My mother is an out of work Cobol programmer. She can't find a job anywhere anymore.
Cobol is as good as dead. The jobs left are pretty much legacy support. Maybe your case is a special one but for the most part it's dead. Learning to program Cobol now is like learning sanscrit. There's no use unless you're a historian.
Is there any intrinsic reason why Linux would be less prone to virusses and worms than Windows?
Yes in fact there are many reasons. Windows allows execution of arbitrary code quite easily. Explorer, Outlook, and Word are breeding grounds for viruses. Besides that, if you are careful, and do not run as root, you will significantly reduce the damages. With Windows, and direct integration with the kernel, it is also much easier to take the whole system down with a fairly simple exploit. Just take a look at the latest worm. It could easily be much more dangerous if it was modified.
Or is it just that nobody bothers to write them for Linux because the population of Linux computers is too small to matter, like Macs?
People who write viruses want to bring down servers. No one cares if they only blow away joe shmoe's personal files. Unix has been in server rooms much longer than Windows yet still not many viruses. Microsoft just makes it too easy. It's possible to create viruses that will do some damage in Unix/Linux but Windows is just too inviting.
Have you tried Window Maker? I was a big fan of Fluxbox for a while but then I tried Window Maker. It starts up quicker than Flux for me and on top of that there are many more features. I love the fact that it is highly configurable yet still very light. Configuration is a snap with the graphical menu but if you prefer text files, those are fairly straight forward too.
all of you WindowMaker fans should check out the WM your WM branched off of, so long ago.
As it has been mentioned, Window Maker is not a branch of AfterStep. Afterstep was created from fvwm to emulate NeXTSTEP. Window Maker was started from scratch because AfterStep was too bloated and more of a hack.
Someone also mentioned something about merging Window Maker and AfterStep. "Why?", I ask. There is no need. If the features are that great then either people will stop using Window Maker and start using AfterStep or Window Maker developers will incorporate those features into Window Maker.
There was no intent by the original author for it to be extended and bloated into the kind of project the Linux kernal has become.
While it is clear that Minix was only intended for computer science classes that doesn't take away from the fact that it didn't do what people wanted it to do without significant patches. That wasn't cutting anymore. You can read about this anywhere.
The choice was "bloated" Linux
The people who 'gave up' on Minix and moved over to work on Linux did so because a project that better met their needs became available. Not because Minix 'failed' in some way.
Hmmm. I don't recall ever saying Minix 'failed' so why did you put that in quotations? Minix did everything it was supposed to do. Other people wanted it to do more so they patched it. That became too tedious so they, namely Linus, created something else. I don't see the argument here.
The GPL mandates the (what MS would see are) penalties to be handed out, and there's no negoiating. You used the code? It's open source. No "well, what do you deserve" thinking by the judge.
That's not true. If they fail to meet the agreement (GPL) then they are in violation of copyright. They can be sued for monetary damages, up to $150,000 per copy. The GPL is a license not a contract.
If you buy an illegal DVD on the street in Chinatown, can't you also be busted by the cops just as much as the seller?
Nope. You can't generally get in trouble even if you are a pawn shop selling stolen merchandise. Pawn shops have to fill out reports about what they have bought and send them to area police departments. They use these records to cross reference with reports of theft. If they get a match they can go and confiscate any merchandise left but that's it. They would have to prove that the pawn shop was actively employing theives or knowingly accepting stolen merchandise which is a very hard charge to prove. I'm dealing with a case like this right now so I've learned a lot about how this sort of thing works.
Serious companies complaining about a copyright or patent violation would be very anxious to see this violation corrected.
Very true. By their account SCO is losing money every time a copy of Linux is used. With the growing popularity of Linux one would think they would like to end this as quickly as possible. Perhaps they are hoping to drag it in hopes that as time goes on and more people adopt Linux, they will have more people to sue or demand licensing from if they win. Either way it looks shady.
The viability of this approach would depend on the intrinsic "added value" of the patches, versus the costs to both the software vendor and the end customer.
Kinda reminds me of when people applied all kinds of patches to minix to get a more usable system. Eventually people just didn't want to do it anymore and Linux was born.
I think you're wrong in asserting that Microsoft would steal GPL'ed code, or anything along those lines.
Why do you think that? There is no evidence that they did steal code but I don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibility. It is much easier to steal open code and close it than it is to steal closed code and open it, for all to see. Besides Microsoft's track record isn't so good concerning illegal business practices. I am in no way suggesting it is fact, but it is entirely possible.
You must not be following the thread because the point of that statement was to show that the war is NOT over, even if Bush says it is.
Besides that, it IS an unjust, ILLEGAL war. Each death is uneccessary and it is very heartbreaking for families to lose their loved ones because of a LIE. The deaths were preventable.
All of their parents can bitch and moan if something happens to their child and they can blame the military and the president and who ever else makes them feel better. Their child gave more to this country and for this country than Joe Blow everyday citizen ever will. Their child sacrificed him or herself so that nut in the airport can sell his little flowers, so protesters can burn the flag that will cover their childs coffin, and so they can go on national TV broadcast live from Podunk and bash an administration utilizing their 7th grade educations. I am sure their childs sacrifice wasn't in vain!
Get off your high horse. Why oh why do people think that the military is responsible for all the rights that we have? If it wasn't for hundreds of years of protestors and dissidents we wouldn't have any rights anymore either. So what's your point? Despite your belief, our military is not what makes this country great.
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Then you can't negate 8 years of expansion. The largest expansion in history.
What about countries ruled by tyrants that claim their powers extend from God? Isn't that even worse? I think it's funny when someone actually believes that the world is going to go to hell if the US stops believing in Jesus. We're already going to hell.
Hey buddy have you ever read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? The United States is not a christian country. It is a SECULAR country that happened to be formed by christians. Because they were christians, a lot of christian culture found its way into law but there is no reason to keep it that way. Why not bring our national character more in line with the ideals we put forth? Tradition doesn't make the wrong right.
Besides that I'd like to know how you think taking the words "under god" out of the constitution is denying anyone's rights. If anything you are denying rights to people by leaving it in. If you are really that worried about people's rights then you're on the wrong side of the argument.
The original did not have the words "under god". Your point is moot.
What about slavery and other traditions people grew up with? Should we have just respected traditions instead of fighting for the right thing? I know that slavery and the pledge of allegiance are two totally different things BUT the fact remains that a seperation of church and state is constiutional and we should respect those laws to their fullest extent. The sooner we change our culture to respect what we say we believe in, the sooner we will accept those changes.
I have to call BS. My mother worked for a very large Insurance Company and they didn't have nearly that many people who knew COBOL. 30 a year is excessive for any company.
Give one example.
take credit for the creation of the Internet
At least the people who still bitch about the 2000 election have a reason to. Gore took credit for the funding of the Internet because he took the initiative to get funding for it. Before Gore got involved it was still Arpanet. He never claimed that he invented it, only that he was a major factor in its creation, which he was and you should be thankful or else you wouldn't be able to spread your filthy lies on slashdot.
That's false. When the US government looked into these claims from a Sudanese informant they were told by the Sudanese governement that it was not true and they would not hand him over.
We're still reeling from the recession that started in Clinton's time. We can move passt Clinton once we can shake free of the great damage of his policies. Clinton' still running around the country lying about things in an effort to block economic recovery.
HAHA. Clinton's 8 years in office resulted in the biggest growth in the history of any nation. The bubble burst when George took over and the tax cuts for the rich won't do any good. I thought we learned in the 80's (when Regean tripled the national debt) that trickle down economics (aka voodoo economics) doesn't work. It's unfortunate that the bottom 60 percent only get 14 percent of the tax break.
You're only fooling yourself and others just as uninformed as you.
Rioters paid by Bush
I think you are making his point for him. It's good for business to make a mediocre solution but it's bad for technology. Technology for the general public is so far behind what it could be because people don't even know about its capabilities and don't care. Then when something new finally does come along everyone says "Why didn't we have this earlier?". Because no one cared about technology until it solved a problem for them. It makes perfect business sense but no technological sense.
Please tell me where. My mother is an out of work Cobol programmer. She can't find a job anywhere anymore.
Cobol is as good as dead. The jobs left are pretty much legacy support. Maybe your case is a special one but for the most part it's dead. Learning to program Cobol now is like learning sanscrit. There's no use unless you're a historian.
Yes in fact there are many reasons. Windows allows execution of arbitrary code quite easily. Explorer, Outlook, and Word are breeding grounds for viruses. Besides that, if you are careful, and do not run as root, you will significantly reduce the damages. With Windows, and direct integration with the kernel, it is also much easier to take the whole system down with a fairly simple exploit. Just take a look at the latest worm. It could easily be much more dangerous if it was modified.
Or is it just that nobody bothers to write them for Linux because the population of Linux computers is too small to matter, like Macs?
People who write viruses want to bring down servers. No one cares if they only blow away joe shmoe's personal files. Unix has been in server rooms much longer than Windows yet still not many viruses. Microsoft just makes it too easy. It's possible to create viruses that will do some damage in Unix/Linux but Windows is just too inviting.
Metroid is the absolute best side scroller ever made. I played that game endlesssly.
Have you seen some of the goofs that fill propane tanks?
Have you tried Window Maker? I was a big fan of Fluxbox for a while but then I tried Window Maker. It starts up quicker than Flux for me and on top of that there are many more features. I love the fact that it is highly configurable yet still very light. Configuration is a snap with the graphical menu but if you prefer text files, those are fairly straight forward too.
As it has been mentioned, Window Maker is not a branch of AfterStep. Afterstep was created from fvwm to emulate NeXTSTEP. Window Maker was started from scratch because AfterStep was too bloated and more of a hack.
Someone also mentioned something about merging Window Maker and AfterStep. "Why?", I ask. There is no need. If the features are that great then either people will stop using Window Maker and start using AfterStep or Window Maker developers will incorporate those features into Window Maker.
While it is clear that Minix was only intended for computer science classes that doesn't take away from the fact that it didn't do what people wanted it to do without significant patches. That wasn't cutting anymore. You can read about this anywhere. The choice was "bloated" Linux
or
Featureless Minix?
The choice was obvious.
Hmmm. I don't recall ever saying Minix 'failed' so why did you put that in quotations? Minix did everything it was supposed to do. Other people wanted it to do more so they patched it. That became too tedious so they, namely Linus, created something else. I don't see the argument here.
FreeBSD anyone?
That's not true. If they fail to meet the agreement (GPL) then they are in violation of copyright. They can be sued for monetary damages, up to $150,000 per copy. The GPL is a license not a contract.
Nope. You can't generally get in trouble even if you are a pawn shop selling stolen merchandise. Pawn shops have to fill out reports about what they have bought and send them to area police departments. They use these records to cross reference with reports of theft. If they get a match they can go and confiscate any merchandise left but that's it. They would have to prove that the pawn shop was actively employing theives or knowingly accepting stolen merchandise which is a very hard charge to prove. I'm dealing with a case like this right now so I've learned a lot about how this sort of thing works.
Very true. By their account SCO is losing money every time a copy of Linux is used. With the growing popularity of Linux one would think they would like to end this as quickly as possible. Perhaps they are hoping to drag it in hopes that as time goes on and more people adopt Linux, they will have more people to sue or demand licensing from if they win. Either way it looks shady.
Kinda reminds me of when people applied all kinds of patches to minix to get a more usable system. Eventually people just didn't want to do it anymore and Linux was born.
Why do you think that? There is no evidence that they did steal code but I don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibility. It is much easier to steal open code and close it than it is to steal closed code and open it, for all to see. Besides Microsoft's track record isn't so good concerning illegal business practices. I am in no way suggesting it is fact, but it is entirely possible.
You must not be following the thread because the point of that statement was to show that the war is NOT over, even if Bush says it is.
Besides that, it IS an unjust, ILLEGAL war. Each death is uneccessary and it is very heartbreaking for families to lose their loved ones because of a LIE. The deaths were preventable.
All of their parents can bitch and moan if something happens to their child and they can blame the military and the president and who ever else makes them feel better. Their child gave more to this country and for this country than Joe Blow everyday citizen ever will. Their child sacrificed him or herself so that nut in the airport can sell his little flowers, so protesters can burn the flag that will cover their childs coffin, and so they can go on national TV broadcast live from Podunk and bash an administration utilizing their 7th grade educations. I am sure their childs sacrifice wasn't in vain!
Get off your high horse. Why oh why do people think that the military is responsible for all the rights that we have? If it wasn't for hundreds of years of protestors and dissidents we wouldn't have any rights anymore either. So what's your point? Despite your belief, our military is not what makes this country great.