The people who most vehemently and aggressively support intellectual property rights are those who haven't had a single original thought in their lives. They're hoping to monopolize that one single moment of reverie when they finally achieve it.
Those of us who make a living in intellectual property have learned to do it the right way: keep your mouth shut. If you don't want something to be redistributed, don't put it in an easily redistributable form!
The other people (*AA) who are zealouts about IP rights are hypocrites. They're all fat and rich and couldn't give a good gosh-darn about the good of society or the Constitution.
Didn't the plant read the EULA? Didn't it sign the licensing agreement? Has it never heard of the DMCA? There is no gene sharing, reproduction, or redistribution allowed.
Genes generally don't just "cross" into wild populations, so if the GM trees have unforeseen problems it won't affect any natural forests
From www.cen-online.org, this is from the 27-Sep-04 issue,
"A new study finds that genes from Roundup Ready creeping bent grass can travel at least 13 miles. The study validates the concerns of many scientists and environmentalists that the genetic alteration of some crops may not be contained and could thus spread widely to other domestic or wild plants.
The genetically engineered grass is being developed by Monsanto and Scotts as a turf plant for golf greens and fairways. Previous studies have found that crop genes flow only about 1,400 feet. The new work reveals the possibility that altered genes can, in fact, spread great distances. In the case of bent grass, there is a concern that herbicide resistance might spread to wild bent grass and other related species."
If you are launching from US soil through US airspace to reach space... Yes, they have jurisdiction over your launch site and path taken to reaching space which they may then use to regulate various things related to your travel
There is nothing in the US Constitution about regulating space flight. Any regulatory right is reserved to the state from which the launch occurs.
Umm, CFR 14 (Code of Federal Regulations Part 14 - aka the Federal Aviation Regulations) Chapter III has been around for quite a while. Nothing new to see here, folks
I don't remember seeing regulation of space flight in the US Constitution. Therefore, by Amendments 9 and 10, the regulation of space flight is reserved to the state from which the space flight is initiated.
If my system is attacked, I have to start from scratch because they could have hit my kernel/boot loader/etc
This is not an issue of if, this is an issue of when. You cannot be constantly rebuilding your system from scratch. You must learn how to maintain a secure system.
How will TCPA prevent you from being constantly exploited? TCPA is what, damage control? I don't need damage control on my mobo.
this is doing by signing the kernel and boot loader with the TCPA
As if that's the only way, or even the most prevalent way, that people infiltrate systems. This further confirms that TCPA is nothing more than ground-effects lighting for processors.
I miss my Amiga 500, with its startup-sequence, and it's MagicWB (was that really just an icon set?), and it's NeXT-like toolbar, and my Supra28 accelerator (which burned out), and it's 1.3/2.04 ROM switcher (which also burned out), because Pirates! didn't work under 2.04, and the Guru meditation errors, and my side-mounted hard drive controller with 8 mb of 1x8 SIMM memory, and the Fat Agnus 1 mb vid mem expansion, and it's standard RCA-out jacks for stereo sound, and its 1024x768x24 video resolution for high res IFF images, and... and... and...
Give me open-source replacement to Photoshop and Maya (no, GIMP and Bender don't count). I'l be using it in no time.
Photoshop, and games, are the only things I ever see commercial software advocates harping on... and they do harp on them. When are people going to finally admit that FOSS is just better?
The oppression component arises from an inequality of bargaining power of the parties to the contract and an absence of real negotiation or a meaningful choice on the part of the weaker party.
That sounds like every employee agreement I've ever entered into.
You can send your children to their room for an indefinite amount of time. Given the context it's all the same.
You AC trolling twit...
The expensive part isn't setting it up. It's paying for it
And we already pay for both the state and federal governments. If we remove the federal, then the people in the state pay only for their own state. How does this cost anyone anymore money than it already costs them now? In fact, it would cost less so that the feds can concentrate on federal level issues and the states could take state level issues. The definition of what is a federal level issue is clearly and concisely enumerated in the Constitution, and according to the 9th and 10th Amendments, everything else is a state level issue. But you, just like the federal politicians, can feel free to ignore the 9th and 10th Amendments for your own philosophical purposes.
You AC trolling twit...
There should be no micromanagement. There should be broad rules (i.e. no murder, this much tax, etc) and the rest should be left alone!
While I agree with you that there should only be broad rules and the rest should be left alone... What do you think you get when you vest power in the hands of the federal politicians? The only way to get back to a system of broad rules which doesn't waste taxpayer resources is to clearly tell the federal politicians that "this stuff is off-limits to you. Only the states can deal in it." Centralization is not the answer. The only true answer is minimalization.
You AC trolling twit...
That, if you had the courage to stand up and try to fix it, you could do it in one place instead of fifty. If you want to institute mandatory benefits...
Earlier you claimed there should be broad rules, and here you are once again asking for micromanaging from a centrally located federal authority. You don't have a cohesive stance. You don't have a cohesive model. You want to advocate what's right when it's right and you want to micromanage what's wrong when it's wrong. You can't have it both ways--well, you can, and we do, and we clearly see what happens. You're hopeless...
Need we get into the discussion about mother-in-laws, brothers, family standing, popular perception in social circles, ostricision, not getting the invite to the Thanksgiving dinner ("Oh, sorry, we forgot.") or not getting invited to bowling night ("Sorry, we were in a rush and didn't have time to call you.") again?
I don't want to be a geek stuck at home with nothing to do forever.
You AC trolling twit... Why don't you read the 9th and 10th Amendments and consider advocating something LEGAL. Once outside the realm of authority clearly limited by the 9th and 10th, any action taken by the federal government is illegal. But you can feel free to ignore that, as the federal politicians have, since no one has the power to challenge them.
You AC trolling twit...
No screw that, I'm going to declare my house a little principality with legally enforcable rules
It already is, unless you attract the attention of the neighborhood homeowner's association, the local police department, or the state detectives.
You AC trolling twit...
Efficiency is the biggest lie in the book. If you think creating 50 different versions of the same bureaucratic structure is efficient, I've got a bridge to sell to you
We already have 50 different versions of the same bureaucratic structure. Why should we pay for it again at the federal level?
You AC trolling twit...
If you can point out to me a specific need that any state has for a rule that would be inappropriate for another state, by all means do
States have much more of a legitimate interest in any law which affects the daily lives of the citizens than a federal government. This isn't about one state vs. another state. This is about why are we paying the federal government to micromanage a nation from Washington DC when our state legislatures are already set up to do it?
You AC trolling twit...
Of course, there's no better example of rules being applied equally everywhere than slavery, which is the last time the Federal Govt had to kick the states asses over this issue.
The federal government didn't do anything to solve slavery or the problem of inequity. The only thing that the federal government did was to remove public auctions and change the definition so that, as long as you're paid a minimum wage in bank notes, you're not a slave. We still have migrant workers. We still have worker beatings. We still have people who get laid off by the thousands and then rehired by the lowest bidder at jobs with no benefits. Other than transferring total accounting control to centralized banking system, what really is the difference?
I'm glad to see someone exercising discretion in their purchasing; but do you really benefit from rejecting art because you object to the way the medium is produced?
For once in ages I do actually agree with the comments of an AC. Everything that I listen to comes from Proton Radio, Bassdrive, and Di. The major media industry simply doesn't have anything worth listening to/downloading anymore.
Companies like Microsoft have been telling the public, for years and years and years, that it's perfectly okay to click that EULA because the program was definitely worth $200.
There was a corporate brainwashing of the public before putting them online back in '95. That brainwashing conditioned people to WANT to be online, to feel safe and secure, to not mind every website asking them for their names, addresses, telephone numbers, credit card numbers, favorite pet's name, mother's maiden name, social security numbers, and all other data. People were made to feel comfortable using computers for a profit motive and there was ZERO attention paid to security aspects because any aversion to happily plunking their lives into the computer would have been detrimental to the profit margin. That brainwashing hasn't worn off and, with the online economy (still) fueling a large portion of the Wall Street bubble, probably never will.
So, would you then prefer to live in a dictatorship?
What is it with you people living inside the box?
Joe Voter does not know what is best for the whole nation. It is not elitist. It is fact. The US Constitution recognizes this fact and limits the Federal Government, via the 9th and 10th Amendments, such that Joe Voter is not electing politicians who will be micromanging the entire nation. Joe Voter is kept, via the 9th and 10th Amendments, to knowing what is best for his state and his locality.
The solution is not a dictatorship. The solution is not more federal oversight. The solution is not an elitist government.
The solution is a PROPER Constitutional Republic where the Federal Government knows and stays in its place. What we have is a Federal Government which has grown far out of line and all the ills associated with it.
The problem we have in our system is...that their opinions have been deliberately manipulated so as to be contrary to their own interest
That may be a result of the problem. Perhaps you can delve into the conspiracy portions of it. The ROOT PROBLEM, however, is that the Federal Government is simply meddling in affairs that it was never meant to meddle in--and that meddling is costing us billions of dollars every year and suffocating the flexibility of our States.
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The people who most vehemently and aggressively support intellectual property rights are those who haven't had a single original thought in their lives. They're hoping to monopolize that one single moment of reverie when they finally achieve it.
Those of us who make a living in intellectual property have learned to do it the right way: keep your mouth shut. If you don't want something to be redistributed, don't put it in an easily redistributable form!
The other people (*AA) who are zealouts about IP rights are hypocrites. They're all fat and rich and couldn't give a good gosh-darn about the good of society or the Constitution.
It's not the plant's fault
Didn't the plant read the EULA? Didn't it sign the licensing agreement? Has it never heard of the DMCA? There is no gene sharing, reproduction, or redistribution allowed.
Genes generally don't just "cross" into wild populations, so if the GM trees have unforeseen problems it won't affect any natural forests
From www.cen-online.org, this is from the 27-Sep-04 issue,
"A new study finds that genes from Roundup Ready creeping bent grass can travel at least 13 miles. The study validates the concerns of many scientists and environmentalists that the genetic alteration of some crops may not be contained and could thus spread widely to other domestic or wild plants.
The genetically engineered grass is being developed by Monsanto and Scotts as a turf plant for golf greens and fairways. Previous studies have found that crop genes flow only about 1,400 feet. The new work reveals the possibility that altered genes can, in fact, spread great distances. In the case of bent grass, there is a concern that herbicide resistance might spread to wild bent grass and other related species."
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In order to replace it they needed their birth certificate
Not like you can't just write to the state house of any given state and request one of these.
You could justify the Soviet Union with that phrase. Is that where you want to live?
If you are launching from US soil through US airspace to reach space... Yes, they have jurisdiction over your launch site and path taken to reaching space which they may then use to regulate various things related to your travel
There is nothing in the US Constitution about regulating space flight. Any regulatory right is reserved to the state from which the launch occurs.
Keep taxes down--keep federal involvement out.
Umm, CFR 14 (Code of Federal Regulations Part 14 - aka the Federal Aviation Regulations) Chapter III has been around for quite a while. Nothing new to see here, folks
I don't remember seeing regulation of space flight in the US Constitution. Therefore, by Amendments 9 and 10, the regulation of space flight is reserved to the state from which the space flight is initiated.
There's no need to waste federal funds on this.
If my system is attacked, I have to start from scratch because they could have hit my kernel/boot loader/etc
This is not an issue of if, this is an issue of when. You cannot be constantly rebuilding your system from scratch. You must learn how to maintain a secure system.
How will TCPA prevent you from being constantly exploited? TCPA is what, damage control? I don't need damage control on my mobo.
this is doing by signing the kernel and boot loader with the TCPA
As if that's the only way, or even the most prevalent way, that people infiltrate systems. This further confirms that TCPA is nothing more than ground-effects lighting for processors.
Could be worse... a bunch of us Amiga-zoids
I miss my Amiga 500, with its startup-sequence, and it's MagicWB (was that really just an icon set?), and it's NeXT-like toolbar, and my Supra28 accelerator (which burned out), and it's 1.3/2.04 ROM switcher (which also burned out), because Pirates! didn't work under 2.04, and the Guru meditation errors, and my side-mounted hard drive controller with 8 mb of 1x8 SIMM memory, and the Fat Agnus 1 mb vid mem expansion, and it's standard RCA-out jacks for stereo sound, and its 1024x768x24 video resolution for high res IFF images, and... and... and...
You get paid, right?
And the bnetd devs got a nice plastic coaster.
I have fallen victim to pan-and-scan misreading many times. Sometimes it's the only amusement available in life.
Give me open-source replacement to Photoshop and Maya (no, GIMP and Bender don't count). I'l be using it in no time.
Photoshop, and games, are the only things I ever see commercial software advocates harping on... and they do harp on them. When are people going to finally admit that FOSS is just better?
The oppression component arises from an inequality of bargaining power of the parties to the contract and an absence of real negotiation or a meaningful choice on the part of the weaker party.
That sounds like every employee agreement I've ever entered into.
Contracts are by definition bilateral agreements
Heh. You haven't seen my employee agreement.
You short sighted, narrow minded, uneducated, selective seeing AC trolling twit.
If state politicians are so nasty, what makes you think the federal ones are doing you any favors?
You uneducated, misinformed, sheep-loving, propaganda eating AC trolling twit...
You AC trolling twit...
I can't imprison somebody if they break them
You can send your children to their room for an indefinite amount of time. Given the context it's all the same.
You AC trolling twit...
The expensive part isn't setting it up. It's paying for it
And we already pay for both the state and federal governments. If we remove the federal, then the people in the state pay only for their own state. How does this cost anyone anymore money than it already costs them now? In fact, it would cost less so that the feds can concentrate on federal level issues and the states could take state level issues. The definition of what is a federal level issue is clearly and concisely enumerated in the Constitution, and according to the 9th and 10th Amendments, everything else is a state level issue. But you, just like the federal politicians, can feel free to ignore the 9th and 10th Amendments for your own philosophical purposes.
You AC trolling twit...
There should be no micromanagement. There should be broad rules (i.e. no murder, this much tax, etc) and the rest should be left alone!
While I agree with you that there should only be broad rules and the rest should be left alone... What do you think you get when you vest power in the hands of the federal politicians? The only way to get back to a system of broad rules which doesn't waste taxpayer resources is to clearly tell the federal politicians that "this stuff is off-limits to you. Only the states can deal in it." Centralization is not the answer. The only true answer is minimalization.
You AC trolling twit...
That, if you had the courage to stand up and try to fix it, you could do it in one place instead of fifty. If you want to institute mandatory benefits...
Earlier you claimed there should be broad rules, and here you are once again asking for micromanaging from a centrally located federal authority. You don't have a cohesive stance. You don't have a cohesive model. You want to advocate what's right when it's right and you want to micromanage what's wrong when it's wrong. You can't have it both ways--well, you can, and we do, and we clearly see what happens. You're hopeless...
You AC trolling twit.
Relationship Change
User SUN.COM has made you their foe.
Hmmm.... I suggest stop doing the work for free!
Need we get into the discussion about mother-in-laws, brothers, family standing, popular perception in social circles, ostricision, not getting the invite to the Thanksgiving dinner ("Oh, sorry, we forgot.") or not getting invited to bowling night ("Sorry, we were in a rush and didn't have time to call you.") again?
I don't want to be a geek stuck at home with nothing to do forever.
Uh..this is a GOVERNMENT JOB!
:)
Oh. Yeah. Sorry.
You AC trolling twit... Why don't you read the 9th and 10th Amendments and consider advocating something LEGAL. Once outside the realm of authority clearly limited by the 9th and 10th, any action taken by the federal government is illegal. But you can feel free to ignore that, as the federal politicians have, since no one has the power to challenge them.
You AC trolling twit...
No screw that, I'm going to declare my house a little principality with legally enforcable rules
It already is, unless you attract the attention of the neighborhood homeowner's association, the local police department, or the state detectives.
You AC trolling twit...
Efficiency is the biggest lie in the book. If you think creating 50 different versions of the same bureaucratic structure is efficient, I've got a bridge to sell to you
We already have 50 different versions of the same bureaucratic structure. Why should we pay for it again at the federal level?
You AC trolling twit...
If you can point out to me a specific need that any state has for a rule that would be inappropriate for another state, by all means do
States have much more of a legitimate interest in any law which affects the daily lives of the citizens than a federal government. This isn't about one state vs. another state. This is about why are we paying the federal government to micromanage a nation from Washington DC when our state legislatures are already set up to do it?
You AC trolling twit...
Of course, there's no better example of rules being applied equally everywhere than slavery, which is the last time the Federal Govt had to kick the states asses over this issue.
The federal government didn't do anything to solve slavery or the problem of inequity. The only thing that the federal government did was to remove public auctions and change the definition so that, as long as you're paid a minimum wage in bank notes, you're not a slave. We still have migrant workers. We still have worker beatings. We still have people who get laid off by the thousands and then rehired by the lowest bidder at jobs with no benefits. Other than transferring total accounting control to centralized banking system, what really is the difference?
You AC trolling twit...
I'm glad to see someone exercising discretion in their purchasing; but do you really benefit from rejecting art because you object to the way the medium is produced?
For once in ages I do actually agree with the comments of an AC. Everything that I listen to comes from Proton Radio, Bassdrive, and Di. The major media industry simply doesn't have anything worth listening to/downloading anymore.
Companies like Microsoft have been telling the public, for years and years and years, that it's perfectly okay to click that EULA because the program was definitely worth $200.
There was a corporate brainwashing of the public before putting them online back in '95. That brainwashing conditioned people to WANT to be online, to feel safe and secure, to not mind every website asking them for their names, addresses, telephone numbers, credit card numbers, favorite pet's name, mother's maiden name, social security numbers, and all other data. People were made to feel comfortable using computers for a profit motive and there was ZERO attention paid to security aspects because any aversion to happily plunking their lives into the computer would have been detrimental to the profit margin. That brainwashing hasn't worn off and, with the online economy (still) fueling a large portion of the Wall Street bubble, probably never will.
So, would you then prefer to live in a dictatorship?
What is it with you people living inside the box?
Joe Voter does not know what is best for the whole nation. It is not elitist. It is fact. The US Constitution recognizes this fact and limits the Federal Government, via the 9th and 10th Amendments, such that Joe Voter is not electing politicians who will be micromanging the entire nation. Joe Voter is kept, via the 9th and 10th Amendments, to knowing what is best for his state and his locality.
The solution is not a dictatorship. The solution is not more federal oversight. The solution is not an elitist government.
The solution is a PROPER Constitutional Republic where the Federal Government knows and stays in its place. What we have is a Federal Government which has grown far out of line and all the ills associated with it.
The problem we have in our system is...that their opinions have been deliberately manipulated so as to be contrary to their own interest
That may be a result of the problem. Perhaps you can delve into the conspiracy portions of it. The ROOT PROBLEM, however, is that the Federal Government is simply meddling in affairs that it was never meant to meddle in--and that meddling is costing us billions of dollars every year and suffocating the flexibility of our States.