Its predecessor, DKBTrace, was around for a bit before POV was born.
No, Povray has not been around since before 'realistic' professional 3d packages existed. It has not blazed trails. Renderman is much older and as always been about fifty steps ahead in development. Do you think Povray had the same capabilities as Renderman in '95? Hell no. There were maybe three renderers that could have done what Renderman did then (Renderman, maybe Mental Ray, and Prisms... obscure). Povray is great, but let's not start the revisionist history so soon.
Yeah, most US R films are rated around the same elsewhere. Only on films that really don't deserve an R are there any discrepancies. It's not that the MPAA is strict, they're just super fucking inconsistent.
They're sick of hearing about it, that's why. You used to have thirty fucking posts a day from dipshits too fucking stupid to use Google looking for warez. It gets old, FAST. Nobody, even those within the industry, gives a shit about people using warez. No matter how much discreet and Alias might talk about piracy, it's all bullshit. They both sell a product that starts in the mid four-digit category. They know that people who buy their software will buy it, whatever the cost. One reason Gmax and PLE were created to defray some of the piracy, and they've been successful at that to some extent.
Practically everything. Far better modeling, texturing, and animation tools. Import/export without the use of incredibly cumbersome scripts. No reliance upon scripts to do simple as fuck tasks (see aforementioned import/export). Hair, GOOD particles, excellent physics... there's a LOT. Anyone that tries to tell you Blender is even in the same league as Maya has never used Maya or any other high-end 3d app. Period. Blender is total shit compared to those programs.
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Parent is a moron. Things like Maya PLE and Houdini Apprentice are designed SPECIFICALLY so you can learn 3d without shelling out assloads of cash. Sorry dude, learning Blender isn't going to help when it comes time to play with the big boys. You know how programmers say that BASIC does more harm than good for teaching programming? Blender is the exact same. Open Source or not, it sucks balls compared to REAL high-end 3d programs. I like Blender, I want it to succeed, but if you have aspirations of being a CG artist, it is the worst possible place to start... okay, it's better than trueSpace at least.
And that's what EVERY retailer SHOULD be doing. Personally, I think that any kid over the age of ten probably has enough brainpower to understand the difference between real and fake (I'd HOPE so anyway) and I really wouldn't have a problem with my kids playing GTA. But that's my choice based on what I think my kid could handle. Unfortunately, too many parents don't give a fuck about what their kids are watching or playing and expect stores to do what's best for their kids. Fuck that. Do what you can, yes. I think it's better if stores don't sell games like GTA to kids AT ALL. It *MIGHT* hurt sales a bit, but what kind of dickhead parents are too fucking lazy to get off their ass and drive to the fucking store to buy a game for their kid?
Bullshit. The way the ratings are given has changed over the years. There are more PG-13's because just a few years ago, they would have qualified for an R rating.
So how is a company supposed to know that in a country a few thousand miles away a word that has a common meaning in all other parts of the world that speak the same language is seen as an insult? They can't. Not even MS has the means to keep up a massive network of people to stand around and baby a list of slang words.
Still, this is fucking stupid. Could you imagine the shit that would fly if the US GOVERNMENT started bitching about a foreign software company using a common English word that had a double meaning? "We are OFFENDED and OUTRAGED that they used the word 'screw' to refer to a conical piece of metal with an inclined plane wrapped around it. Seriously, screw also means FUCK! We can't have our children using that word!"
Exactly. I welcome ANYTHING that will keep idiots off the ass of gamers. I like my GTA as much as the next guy, and I don't want some dipshit buying their 7 year old the game and then getting pissed because there are hookers and drugs. Stores should have been prominently displaying rating information for a long time. I generally don't like laws such as this, but it makes it so much better for those of us with at least half a brain to continue about our carnage without morons butting in.
The 430 trillion gallon figure I came up with was from an Army Corps of Engineers PDF I ran across. You should be able to find it if you Google for 'Lake Ontario capacity'.
The temperature of surface water even in shallow ponds here in Texas isn't that impressive. We're talking about maybe 80F or so. The only reason the cooling system works is because the water is so intensely cold. I don't think the same would work for heat.
Something you have to keep in mind is that we're talking about a lake with nearly 400 cubic MILES of water in it. It would take a *LONG* time of pumping millions of gallons per hour (Ontario holds about 430 TRILLION gallons) to even dent the lake, and that's assuming you can somehow stop all water from flowing into it before you start.
I don't dislike Greenpeace's general goal, I think their concerns are generally well-founded, but the rather idiotic stunts they pull are flat-out dumb to anyone with half a brain. I seriously wish there were some environmental groups that had *SANE* members. Unfortunately, I have yet to see one.
What heat? This isn't like a radiator. They're not siphoning off the water, running it through a house, then dumping it back in the lake. They're using the low temperature of the water to cool air (essentially a reverse radiator) that is moved elsewhere. The water is then used as the drinking supply, as it apparently would have been anyway.
And again, I ask, what is going to heat the water? as long as they don't suck out enough water to significantly lower the lake lever in a short amount of time, there is no chance of that happening.
the 'bottom layer' of 4 deg C water will get thinner, as the water that's pumped out is replaced with surface water that has a higher temperature
But how long will it take that layer to be eroded? Also, it isn't replaced by surface water. The water directly around it takes its spot. We're still talking about water that's 83 meters below the surface.
Maybe the cooling capacity of the lake bottom is high enough to counteract this, though.
Precisely. It would take a *LOT* of pumping to get that much water out of the lake. I'm willing to wager that a typical summer takes more water out of the lake in a year through evaporation than this will in a decade. But don't quote me, because I know no specifics beyond the article.
The water at the bottom of the lake isn't special. The only reason it's cold is because it's so far away from the surface that it can't be heated by the sun, and the water on top helps wick away any heat that might build up. Go dive into a lake. The first few inches of the surface might be warm, but down as little as five feet you're looking at a significant drop in temperature, and it just gets colder as it goes down.
Nobody ever said this was a new idea, only that this is the first large-scale project of its type in North America. I'd assume from that statement that other projects of this type exist elsewhere already.
How, pray tell, would the bottom of the lake warm up? All that's below the water is a pipe. The water that is collected, as it says in the article, is used elsewhere for the drinking supplies. Someone else posed a concern about evaporation, but I'll ask you the same question I asked him. How long would it take for an 83 meter deep lake in Canada to evaporate to the point where this project is rendered pointless?
And how long will it take an 83 meter deep lake in Canada to evaporate to the point where the water temperature along the bottom is raised significantly enough to make this project moot?
Why would it? It's just siphoning off water on the bottom and moving it elsewhere. Unless the lake gets catastrophically low (the pipe's 83 meters down), there should be no issue with water warming at all.
Enviromental effects seem to be quite minimal. Water is taken for drinking supplies anyway, and all they're doing is channeling it through a different set of pipes. I'm pretty sure that the enviromental effects were considered, as it's far better to shut stupid Greenpeace hippies up before they can start their jaw flapping.
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Its predecessor, DKBTrace, was around for a bit before POV was born.
No, Povray has not been around since before 'realistic' professional 3d packages existed. It has not blazed trails. Renderman is much older and as always been about fifty steps ahead in development. Do you think Povray had the same capabilities as Renderman in '95? Hell no. There were maybe three renderers that could have done what Renderman did then (Renderman, maybe Mental Ray, and Prisms... obscure). Povray is great, but let's not start the revisionist history so soon.
Yeah, most US R films are rated around the same elsewhere. Only on films that really don't deserve an R are there any discrepancies. It's not that the MPAA is strict, they're just super fucking inconsistent.
They're sick of hearing about it, that's why. You used to have thirty fucking posts a day from dipshits too fucking stupid to use Google looking for warez. It gets old, FAST. Nobody, even those within the industry, gives a shit about people using warez. No matter how much discreet and Alias might talk about piracy, it's all bullshit. They both sell a product that starts in the mid four-digit category. They know that people who buy their software will buy it, whatever the cost. One reason Gmax and PLE were created to defray some of the piracy, and they've been successful at that to some extent.
Practically everything. Far better modeling, texturing, and animation tools. Import/export without the use of incredibly cumbersome scripts. No reliance upon scripts to do simple as fuck tasks (see aforementioned import/export). Hair, GOOD particles, excellent physics... there's a LOT. Anyone that tries to tell you Blender is even in the same league as Maya has never used Maya or any other high-end 3d app. Period. Blender is total shit compared to those programs.
Parent is a moron. Things like Maya PLE and Houdini Apprentice are designed SPECIFICALLY so you can learn 3d without shelling out assloads of cash. Sorry dude, learning Blender isn't going to help when it comes time to play with the big boys. You know how programmers say that BASIC does more harm than good for teaching programming? Blender is the exact same. Open Source or not, it sucks balls compared to REAL high-end 3d programs. I like Blender, I want it to succeed, but if you have aspirations of being a CG artist, it is the worst possible place to start... okay, it's better than trueSpace at least.
And that's what EVERY retailer SHOULD be doing. Personally, I think that any kid over the age of ten probably has enough brainpower to understand the difference between real and fake (I'd HOPE so anyway) and I really wouldn't have a problem with my kids playing GTA. But that's my choice based on what I think my kid could handle. Unfortunately, too many parents don't give a fuck about what their kids are watching or playing and expect stores to do what's best for their kids. Fuck that. Do what you can, yes. I think it's better if stores don't sell games like GTA to kids AT ALL. It *MIGHT* hurt sales a bit, but what kind of dickhead parents are too fucking lazy to get off their ass and drive to the fucking store to buy a game for their kid?
Bullshit. The way the ratings are given has changed over the years. There are more PG-13's because just a few years ago, they would have qualified for an R rating.
I doubt it. They haven't added up with movie ratings or CD labels in all the years people have been jizzing in their tinfoil over those subjects.
So how is a company supposed to know that in a country a few thousand miles away a word that has a common meaning in all other parts of the world that speak the same language is seen as an insult? They can't. Not even MS has the means to keep up a massive network of people to stand around and baby a list of slang words.
Still, this is fucking stupid. Could you imagine the shit that would fly if the US GOVERNMENT started bitching about a foreign software company using a common English word that had a double meaning? "We are OFFENDED and OUTRAGED that they used the word 'screw' to refer to a conical piece of metal with an inclined plane wrapped around it. Seriously, screw also means FUCK! We can't have our children using that word!"
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Exactly. I welcome ANYTHING that will keep idiots off the ass of gamers. I like my GTA as much as the next guy, and I don't want some dipshit buying their 7 year old the game and then getting pissed because there are hookers and drugs. Stores should have been prominently displaying rating information for a long time. I generally don't like laws such as this, but it makes it so much better for those of us with at least half a brain to continue about our carnage without morons butting in.
The 430 trillion gallon figure I came up with was from an Army Corps of Engineers PDF I ran across. You should be able to find it if you Google for 'Lake Ontario capacity'.
It does appear that this makes ONE environmental group that's not batshit crazy. Yay!
The temperature of surface water even in shallow ponds here in Texas isn't that impressive. We're talking about maybe 80F or so. The only reason the cooling system works is because the water is so intensely cold. I don't think the same would work for heat.
Something you have to keep in mind is that we're talking about a lake with nearly 400 cubic MILES of water in it. It would take a *LONG* time of pumping millions of gallons per hour (Ontario holds about 430 TRILLION gallons) to even dent the lake, and that's assuming you can somehow stop all water from flowing into it before you start.
I don't dislike Greenpeace's general goal, I think their concerns are generally well-founded, but the rather idiotic stunts they pull are flat-out dumb to anyone with half a brain. I seriously wish there were some environmental groups that had *SANE* members. Unfortunately, I have yet to see one.
What heat? This isn't like a radiator. They're not siphoning off the water, running it through a house, then dumping it back in the lake. They're using the low temperature of the water to cool air (essentially a reverse radiator) that is moved elsewhere. The water is then used as the drinking supply, as it apparently would have been anyway.
And again, I ask, what is going to heat the water? as long as they don't suck out enough water to significantly lower the lake lever in a short amount of time, there is no chance of that happening.
It cools. How do you think the water got cold to begin with?
The water at the bottom of the lake isn't special. The only reason it's cold is because it's so far away from the surface that it can't be heated by the sun, and the water on top helps wick away any heat that might build up. Go dive into a lake. The first few inches of the surface might be warm, but down as little as five feet you're looking at a significant drop in temperature, and it just gets colder as it goes down.
Nobody ever said this was a new idea, only that this is the first large-scale project of its type in North America. I'd assume from that statement that other projects of this type exist elsewhere already.
How, pray tell, would the bottom of the lake warm up? All that's below the water is a pipe. The water that is collected, as it says in the article, is used elsewhere for the drinking supplies. Someone else posed a concern about evaporation, but I'll ask you the same question I asked him. How long would it take for an 83 meter deep lake in Canada to evaporate to the point where this project is rendered pointless?
And how long will it take an 83 meter deep lake in Canada to evaporate to the point where the water temperature along the bottom is raised significantly enough to make this project moot?
Why would it? It's just siphoning off water on the bottom and moving it elsewhere. Unless the lake gets catastrophically low (the pipe's 83 meters down), there should be no issue with water warming at all.
Enviromental effects seem to be quite minimal. Water is taken for drinking supplies anyway, and all they're doing is channeling it through a different set of pipes. I'm pretty sure that the enviromental effects were considered, as it's far better to shut stupid Greenpeace hippies up before they can start their jaw flapping.