I completely disagree. The "crime" is the same either way. The kid is guilty of cheating, and should be suspended for a couple of weeks, or possibly expelled, but the cops don't need to enter in to the picture. Just think about this for a second, if the kid had attacked another kid and beat him senseless the cops would NOT be involved. Why is this a more serious issue? And don't tell me he 'more likely would have gotten away with it' because the individual teachers computer is almost certainly NOT the only places the grades are recorded. There's almost 0 chance of him actually getting a change to his grade to actually affect anything for more than a few days. What the kid did was TOTALLY wrong, but it is NOT a criminal matter.
So now schools get to pick and choose which cases they turn over to the cops? It's ok for someone to be the victim of a Assault and Battery, but it's a FELONY to cheat now? And that's all this was, remember, cheatting. It's not a felony to use a pencil to alter your grade in the paper gradebook. Why is it a felony to do it on the computer? Punishment should have been handled by the administration and the kids parents this was NOT a metter for the cops.
You guys are great. I was also looking at recumbent bikes and trikes, but they get disproportionally expensive for the benefit I expect from them. I've found that you can get some really nice electric bikes like the Ciao on this page http://electricrider.com/google/hbike/ for under 500$. I'm seriously considering ordering one of the Ciao's this weekend. Any opinions?
I actually did cross train into Wing-Chun and Aikido both a couple of years ago, learning to breathe properly by itself did wonders for my mental health. As for taking to the streets as an arch-villain, where do you find a costume like that? I've been looking for a new hobby...
Hell, I bet someone 50$ that I could fit into a locker in 10th grade and they took the bet. I made them give me the money first of course, then I stepped into the locker and turned sideways and told them to go ahead and shut the door. I fit easily, I made 50 bucks, and I got to take a 2hr nap and go home from school early. Of course I refused to rat out the people that did it... But hey, easy money is easy money.
Being bullied as a kind/teenager turned me into an asshole eventually. I'm now abrasive, verbally abusive, and sarcastic to anyone that I hear put down anyone else. Of course, that doesn't apply to me since I seem to have no qualms about personally heaping abuse on people. Though I have noticed I tend to try and make it good natured with my friends. But god forbid some random stranger say something marginally stupid in my presence... The reason for my atrocious behavior is that I'm subconciously trying to pick fights with people. Since now I'm physically able to take care of myself I have an underlying desire to have someone start a fight with me. So now, whenever I can't get a controlled fight every couple of weeks I get edgy and start working out more and more. I have to have an outlet for my agression. In fact, I started back to my martial arts classes to pursue my second degree BB because I started to have powerful urges to attack people on the street. So now I can channel that back into my classes and I'm a much happier person again. But I can definately say that being bullied through elementary, middle, and part of high school made me a much more violent person than I would normally be and I've had to work to control that. Oh, I'm also paranoid, I continuasly suspect that random people might attack me on the street and evaluate them level of threat they pose while preparing to repel an assault and run.
Heh, sticking webcams around my office close to a deadline would certainly catch of a lot of profanity... We always get a slew of last minute bugs from our testers like 3 days before we're supposed to ship. So the developers are spending 14hrs a day at work trying to fix them all... Laugh riot.
*Now to explain the joke for those not familiar with chefly stuff. The CIA is the Culinary Institute of America, sort of the top Chef School in the US (Arguably in the world, unless you ask a frenchman) hence the joke...
You make me laugh, just like the group of people that say, "Lord of the Rings is jus a ripoff of Dungeons and Dragons! How stupid!"... You fit right in with the group of fucktards that don't realize that Lord of the Rings is the defining work of the genre, the foundation from which those tired cliches were built.
The Two Towers was a GOOD movie when compared to almost every other movie that came out that year. It may not be the end all and be all of cinamtic perfection, but it accomplised the goal of telling a story richly and clearly.
Oh, and since I know you're just a troll, FOAD PLS THX.
"Love" is the same way. I mean, how many people REALLY "Love" spaghetti? I hope it's not as many as keep saying it... Extremes of words are too often abused in our culture because most people lack a clear understanding of what the word really means. Also, extreme words have fewer letters, so it's easier to say "I HATE broccolli", than to say "I dislike the taste of broccolli" so laziness breeds extremity of language, which in term reduces the extremity of the feeling associated with the word. After all, how can I feel the same way about spaghetti as I do about my wife? If I say I love them both, what do I really mean? I Love my wife, I like the taste of spaghetti. Substantially different concepts. Language is weird.
I have that issue with Go, I'm a 7-9kyu player using Yahoo, or Cgoban or other programs, but with a real Goban in front of me I'm a 4-6 kyu player. Something about the visual texture of the Go game helps me "feel" the way the game is progressing.
It's also more difficult to establish a goal in Go. In chess your goal is clear, "Capture the King", in Go the goal is much more ephemeral, "Surround the most territory points securely". Also, there is no clear "end" to a Go game until both players agree to stop placing stones. I picked up one Go program that didn't ever have an End condition met. It would keep placing stones for ever. That meant it would fill in its own territory until there were no more legal moves, then I would place one stone and take all of the stones it had on the board, and it would start over filling the board in until it had no legal moves. GNUGo is much better at figuring out when the game is over and will Pass at the appropriate times. Sometimes it passes a bit early but it never continues to play stones long after it has become pointless. And with GNUGo running on a dual 2.4ghz Xeon it kicks my ass. I regularly lose by 30 moku in an even game. But I can usually beat it with a 3 stone handicap and sometimes with a 2 stone. And for those keeping track my rating is 7kyu. Which sucks, but doesn't suck uberhard.
I looked at that game a few times to see WTF Kasparov was thinking, to me it looked like Bobbie Fischer playing while Drunk and Stoned... Some kind of weird failed Queen's Gambit or something. I still haven't figured out what Kasparov was trying to accomplish in that game.
I've know a girl AND a guy both named Hyon Nguyen. One is a Relatively famous martial artist (To the "underground" tricking community) the other was some girl that whent to high school with my wife. Very weird in my opinion.... I also know a guy named Hyon Ho. I wonder what the equivelant to Hyon would be in english... I should ask him.
So Rumour has it... Much like Rumour will tell you that the Mafia controls most of the Vegas casinos. Of course, Rumour is a dirty little snitch and if he doesn't keep his mouch shut we're gonna cut out his tongue and dump him in the river....
No you idiot. He was making an example headline of what the goal of this sort of action is. What the RIAA wants is to be able to get someone arrested for "downloading music" and get it in the papers. Even if, as was detailed further in the post you partially quoted, the real crimes were much more numerous. Now, stop being a wanker and learn to read, ya wanker.
Because one of the links was to Newsforge he has to say that. Otherwise he gets accused of secretly farming eyeballs out to OSDN subsidiaries. It would be like CNN posting an article talking about how great AOL was, without mentioning that the two are owned by the same company.
Much thanks to you and KFG above. I've got a pretty good idea of what I want to look for going into the bike shop now. Since I'm in Athens, Ga there are several real bicycle shops around that I plan on checking out. I'd momentarily considered just buying a bike from walmart, then rethought that since almost everything walmart sells is cheap crap. Thanks very much for the advice, I'll take it to heart when I go pick my bike out.
Nah, as cool as motorcycles may be I really don't like the idea of driving one. I'd rather have the bike. Plus, if I whipe the bike out or run into a car, I'm out a few hundred bucks and have some bruises and stuff. If I whipe the motorcycle out I'll probably total it and half kill myself.
For me personally the bicycle is the better choice I think.
I would also be using it to bike to/from my martial arts classes and occasionally to pick up light amounts of groceries and things. I don't know how much of the maintenance I would be able to do myself since I don't know what constitutes "simple" maintenance on a good quality bike. The numbers were just the upper limits of what I would be comfortable spending. Though I could easily field 900$ for the bike if I really got something special out of it.
Works for me, I'm bicycle mechanic and frame builder. I could use the business, and you could use the exercise.
Completely off topic, but I've got about a 7 mile morning commute, sometimes I get a ride with co-workers, sometimes I grab the bus, I've been thinking of buying a bike and riding to work. My budget tops out at about 300$ for the initial purchase and about 50$/month average maintenance. Under that circumstance what kind of bike would you recommend?
I dunno about you, but I post whatever the FUCK crosses my mind ever since the karma cap. And I still get modded up more than I get modded down. And I don't care. Some people on the site are fucktards, so fucking what? Say whatever you want, Karma just just a little number on a page that you don't even have to see. It can't stop you from reading the site, it can't stop you from posting to the site, all it can do is result in your posts being "downrated" so that people who are anal about karma don't see them. I browse at 1 because I simply don't want to deal with the real trolls and I don't care if I miss someones post. Quit worrying about your karma. Post your true opinions on each subject and tell the mod-trolls to fuckoff. My personal opinion is that the Kuro5hin system is 10000000 times better as a mod system than Slashdot. I also think that Karma should be more public because it added a kind of fun competitive aspect to the site. Maybe if we could see our karma, and make it go up again I'd give a flying fuck about what I posted...
points to the phenomenon that even a slight tendency for something in a large, free system with many choices will likely result in this power curve gap. Hence, the slight tendency for people to mod down anything pro-Microsoft results in what is slashdot: a place very unlikely to show any pro-Microsoft material.
Isn't that the whole point of getting people of similar interest together? To discuss things of... well, similar interest? If you want to overcome the status quo I ask you, why? Why not start your own site for likeminded individuals? It doesn't need to have as many people as every other site on the web. Quantity of users is not an effective measure of quality of content.
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I completely disagree. The "crime" is the same either way. The kid is guilty of cheating, and should be suspended for a couple of weeks, or possibly expelled, but the cops don't need to enter in to the picture. Just think about this for a second, if the kid had attacked another kid and beat him senseless the cops would NOT be involved. Why is this a more serious issue? And don't tell me he 'more likely would have gotten away with it' because the individual teachers computer is almost certainly NOT the only places the grades are recorded. There's almost 0 chance of him actually getting a change to his grade to actually affect anything for more than a few days. What the kid did was TOTALLY wrong, but it is NOT a criminal matter.
Kintanon
So now schools get to pick and choose which cases they turn over to the cops? It's ok for someone to be the victim of a Assault and Battery, but it's a FELONY to cheat now? And that's all this was, remember, cheatting. It's not a felony to use a pencil to alter your grade in the paper gradebook. Why is it a felony to do it on the computer?
Punishment should have been handled by the administration and the kids parents this was NOT a metter for the cops.
Kintanon
Silly to reply to myself but I forgot to clarify which model of the Ciao I'm wanting to get, it's the "New times Electric" model.
Kintanon
You guys are great.
I was also looking at recumbent bikes and trikes, but they get disproportionally expensive for the benefit I expect from them. I've found that you can get some really nice electric bikes like the Ciao on this page http://electricrider.com/google/hbike/
for under 500$. I'm seriously considering ordering one of the Ciao's this weekend. Any opinions?
Kintanon
I actually did cross train into Wing-Chun and Aikido both a couple of years ago, learning to breathe properly by itself did wonders for my mental health.
As for taking to the streets as an arch-villain, where do you find a costume like that? I've been looking for a new hobby...
Kintanon
Hell, I bet someone 50$ that I could fit into a locker in 10th grade and they took the bet. I made them give me the money first of course, then I stepped into the locker and turned sideways and told them to go ahead and shut the door. I fit easily, I made 50 bucks, and I got to take a 2hr nap and go home from school early. Of course I refused to rat out the people that did it... But hey, easy money is easy money.
Kintanon
Being bullied as a kind/teenager turned me into an asshole eventually. I'm now abrasive, verbally abusive, and sarcastic to anyone that I hear put down anyone else. Of course, that doesn't apply to me since I seem to have no qualms about personally heaping abuse on people. Though I have noticed I tend to try and make it good natured with my friends. But god forbid some random stranger say something marginally stupid in my presence...
The reason for my atrocious behavior is that I'm subconciously trying to pick fights with people. Since now I'm physically able to take care of myself I have an underlying desire to have someone start a fight with me. So now, whenever I can't get a controlled fight every couple of weeks I get edgy and start working out more and more. I have to have an outlet for my agression.
In fact, I started back to my martial arts classes to pursue my second degree BB because I started to have powerful urges to attack people on the street. So now I can channel that back into my classes and I'm a much happier person again.
But I can definately say that being bullied through elementary, middle, and part of high school made me a much more violent person than I would normally be and I've had to work to control that. Oh, I'm also paranoid, I continuasly suspect that random people might attack me on the street and evaluate them level of threat they pose while preparing to repel an assault and run.
Kintanon
Heh, sticking webcams around my office close to a deadline would certainly catch of a lot of profanity... We always get a slew of last minute bugs from our testers like 3 days before we're supposed to ship. So the developers are spending 14hrs a day at work trying to fix them all... Laugh riot.
Kintanon
What? Why would a chef* want to be James Bond??
Kintanon
*Now to explain the joke for those not familiar with chefly stuff. The CIA is the Culinary Institute of America, sort of the top Chef School in the US (Arguably in the world, unless you ask a frenchman) hence the joke...
You make me laugh, just like the group of people that say, "Lord of the Rings is jus a ripoff of Dungeons and Dragons! How stupid!"... You fit right in with the group of fucktards that don't realize that Lord of the Rings is the defining work of the genre, the foundation from which those tired cliches were built.
The Two Towers was a GOOD movie when compared to almost every other movie that came out that year. It may not be the end all and be all of cinamtic perfection, but it accomplised the goal of telling a story richly and clearly.
Oh, and since I know you're just a troll, FOAD PLS THX.
Kintanon
"Love" is the same way. I mean, how many people REALLY "Love" spaghetti? I hope it's not as many as keep saying it... Extremes of words are too often abused in our culture because most people lack a clear understanding of what the word really means. Also, extreme words have fewer letters, so it's easier to say "I HATE broccolli", than to say "I dislike the taste of broccolli" so laziness breeds extremity of language, which in term reduces the extremity of the feeling associated with the word. After all, how can I feel the same way about spaghetti as I do about my wife? If I say I love them both, what do I really mean? I Love my wife, I like the taste of spaghetti. Substantially different concepts.
Language is weird.
Kintanon
I have that issue with Go, I'm a 7-9kyu player using Yahoo, or Cgoban or other programs, but with a real Goban in front of me I'm a 4-6 kyu player.
Something about the visual texture of the Go game helps me "feel" the way the game is progressing.
Kintanon
It's also more difficult to establish a goal in Go. In chess your goal is clear, "Capture the King", in Go the goal is much more ephemeral, "Surround the most territory points securely". Also, there is no clear "end" to a Go game until both players agree to stop placing stones. I picked up one Go program that didn't ever have an End condition met. It would keep placing stones for ever. That meant it would fill in its own territory until there were no more legal moves, then I would place one stone and take all of the stones it had on the board, and it would start over filling the board in until it had no legal moves.
GNUGo is much better at figuring out when the game is over and will Pass at the appropriate times. Sometimes it passes a bit early but it never continues to play stones long after it has become pointless.
And with GNUGo running on a dual 2.4ghz Xeon it kicks my ass. I regularly lose by 30 moku in an even game. But I can usually beat it with a 3 stone handicap and sometimes with a 2 stone. And for those keeping track my rating is 7kyu. Which sucks, but doesn't suck uberhard.
Kintanon
I looked at that game a few times to see WTF Kasparov was thinking, to me it looked like Bobbie Fischer playing while Drunk and Stoned... Some kind of weird failed Queen's Gambit or something.
I still haven't figured out what Kasparov was trying to accomplish in that game.
Kintanon
I've know a girl AND a guy both named Hyon Nguyen. One is a Relatively famous martial artist (To the "underground" tricking community) the other was some girl that whent to high school with my wife.
Very weird in my opinion....
I also know a guy named Hyon Ho.
I wonder what the equivelant to Hyon would be in english... I should ask him.
Kintanon
So Rumour has it... Much like Rumour will tell you that the Mafia controls most of the Vegas casinos. Of course, Rumour is a dirty little snitch and if he doesn't keep his mouch shut we're gonna cut out his tongue and dump him in the river....
Kintanon
No you idiot.
He was making an example headline of what the goal of this sort of action is. What the RIAA wants is to be able to get someone arrested for "downloading music" and get it in the papers. Even if, as was detailed further in the post you partially quoted, the real crimes were much more numerous. Now, stop being a wanker and learn to read, ya wanker.
Kintanon
Because one of the links was to Newsforge he has to say that.
Otherwise he gets accused of secretly farming eyeballs out to OSDN subsidiaries. It would be like CNN posting an article talking about how great AOL was, without mentioning that the two are owned by the same company.
Kintanon
Much thanks to you and KFG above. I've got a pretty good idea of what I want to look for going into the bike shop now. Since I'm in Athens, Ga there are several real bicycle shops around that I plan on checking out. I'd momentarily considered just buying a bike from walmart, then rethought that since almost everything walmart sells is cheap crap.
Thanks very much for the advice, I'll take it to heart when I go pick my bike out.
Kintanon
Nah, as cool as motorcycles may be I really don't like the idea of driving one. I'd rather have the bike. Plus, if I whipe the bike out or run into a car, I'm out a few hundred bucks and have some bruises and stuff. If I whipe the motorcycle out I'll probably total it and half kill myself.
For me personally the bicycle is the better choice I think.
Kintanon
I would also be using it to bike to/from my martial arts classes and occasionally to pick up light amounts of groceries and things. I don't know how much of the maintenance I would be able to do myself since I don't know what constitutes "simple" maintenance on a good quality bike. The numbers were just the upper limits of what I would be comfortable spending. Though I could easily field 900$ for the bike if I really got something special out of it.
Kintanon
I'm pretty sure that 2.3 kilos equates to an Imperial Ass-load much closer than it does to the Metric Ass-load.
Kintanon
Works for me, I'm bicycle mechanic and frame builder. I could use the business, and you could use the exercise.
Completely off topic, but I've got about a 7 mile morning commute, sometimes I get a ride with co-workers, sometimes I grab the bus, I've been thinking of buying a bike and riding to work. My budget tops out at about 300$ for the initial purchase and about 50$/month average maintenance. Under that circumstance what kind of bike would you recommend?
Thanks for your time,
Kintanon
I dunno about you, but I post whatever the FUCK crosses my mind ever since the karma cap. And I still get modded up more than I get modded down. And I don't care. Some people on the site are fucktards, so fucking what? Say whatever you want, Karma just just a little number on a page that you don't even have to see. It can't stop you from reading the site, it can't stop you from posting to the site, all it can do is result in your posts being "downrated" so that people who are anal about karma don't see them.
I browse at 1 because I simply don't want to deal with the real trolls and I don't care if I miss someones post.
Quit worrying about your karma. Post your true opinions on each subject and tell the mod-trolls to fuckoff.
My personal opinion is that the Kuro5hin system is 10000000 times better as a mod system than Slashdot. I also think that Karma should be more public because it added a kind of fun competitive aspect to the site.
Maybe if we could see our karma, and make it go up again I'd give a flying fuck about what I posted...
Kintanon
points to the phenomenon that even a slight tendency for something in a large, free system with many choices will likely result in this power curve gap. Hence, the slight tendency for people to mod down anything pro-Microsoft results in what is slashdot: a place very unlikely to show any pro-Microsoft material.
Isn't that the whole point of getting people of similar interest together? To discuss things of... well, similar interest? If you want to overcome the status quo I ask you, why? Why not start your own site for likeminded individuals? It doesn't need to have as many people as every other site on the web. Quantity of users is not an effective measure of quality of content.
Kintanon