Moderators: Was this funny because the poster doesn't know John Ashcroft's first name, or because the poster fails to understand that Ashcroft has nothing to do with state recount issues?
Let us not forget that Bruce Clinton was actually the silent partner and secret lover of Prescott Bush during the 30s as well.
Bruce also secretly funded the Nazi Impact Projection Project for Employing Ladies (NIPPEL) by capitalizing on favorable exchange rates between the deutche mark and the american dollar at neighborhood brothels.
And further there is proof that he used most of the proceeds to purchase a time machine, a fleet of black helicopters and a cloned baby jesus. All of which he delivered to Prescott on his birthday, September 11th.
Prescott's Uni-time Motion Project (PUMP) will be responsible for unleashing the Anti-Christ upon the world in the year 2012 when his time machine arrives to unleash it's fleet of black helicopters on all the unbelievers!
(Fight Club flashback)...or you can just stop bringing me any old piece of trash you find laying around.
Besides, MAD is a Mexican stand-off, and only works when both countries care about self-survival. It doesn't work in the case of, say, North Korea, who's leader is as loopy as the rides at Six Flags. Or Iran, who's leaders believe they'll go to heaven if they die in battle.
I think you are misunderstanding the struggle for control going on in places like Iran and North Korea. These people aren't dumb, and for the most part they are not loopy. What they are is extremely self-interested in remaining secure within their seats of power.
The reason you aren't able to understand the decisions these leaders make as rational in the classic sense is because you don't understand enough about the context in which those decisions are being made.
It most definitely would work for North Korea if they had a nuclear device. We already know they have a two-stage ICBM platform that works (they tested if _over_ Japan twice this year). The Kim Jung Il's of the world want nuclear weapons because it puts them in a more powerful bargaining position. Much like the grandparent's post stated.
And to come full circle you can hopefully understand why the US wants a theatre based energy weapon capable of neutralizing such a new found bargaining position. This type of missile defense system makes state sponsered ICBM technology less attractive because it will not provide its owner the capacity it thought it was buying/building.
Honestly, a little chihuahua that goes around nipping the ankles of a rottweiller is just asking to get eaten. If that isn't the textbook definition of "brainless", I don't know what is.
To the point... What is brainless? And who exactly are you calling brainless? Neither of these questions are well articulated in either of your posts. Unfortunately (fortunately if this was your intent) it will probably be read by Iranians and Koreans as an insulting slur against their national pride since it seems like you are implying that all of them are brainless.
most of the people working on nukes these days (Iran, North Korea) don't actually have any brains to speak of.
While I agree in part with your larger analysis, including this comment is difficult to understand. There are quite a few truly brilliant individuals in Iran and North Korea. In fact I'd imagine that levels of intelligence are distributed in similar proportions as in your own country.
Next time leave that crap out and you'll have a much stronger argument.
Keep it up. Im sure your country will fall into civil war soon enough.
Why is it that we can't have mature discussion of military technology? Some ass always has to post wishing a previous poster and/or his country a quick death, herpies, or civil war.
If everyone was as sure about this seemingly peaceful world in which we are living in we'd all just simply disarm.
But the truth is, missile technology has yet to reach its zenith. A vast majority of the countries today have the resources and knowledge to buy or construct them. Many are already doing so. We see the UN warning that fissible material and delivery technology is being traded freely on the blackmarket. Eventually, even non-representitive groups will have access to missile technology.
If we had the ability to predict major world changes with sufficient lead time to re-arm our military to protect ourselves, I'd agree that this type of technology isn't needed or even useful at this time. But when you can't make such predictions, you prepare to defend against the potentual threats you can see.
Maybe, but its only becoming more self-evident to youself. You are failing to explain your perspective in an adequite manner to me, and I'd guess anyone else unfortunate enough to stumble upon this exchange.
It might be a first step in an ideological sense, but it is not a first step in a practical sense since it will not actually cause the root problem to be altered. If Bush would come up with a practical alternative (doubt it), he would be one of the first to do so.
All Kyoto does from the standpoint of an environmentalist is dump existing pollution into environments that likely don't have regulations and laws for dealing with it.
I think its quite possible that history will show that Kyoto ultimately lowered pollution in industrial countries at the cost of increased global pollution.
the only reason Dubya is taking this stance is because his family and all his friends stand to lose out BIG TIME
Considering that he likely believes his decision is good for the entire country given the poor implementation in the Kyoto Protocol, you would be correct that he believes his family and friends would lose out big time. Primarily because most of his friends and family are members of this country.
Even if he did sign it and used mind control to get the Senate to ratify it (never going to happen in the protocol's current form), it likely wouldn't have any effect during his lifetime on his friends or the environment.
Not that any of this matters anyway, the only thing Kyoto will actually do is more evenly distrubute the same growing pollution levels across the face of the planet.
I won't disagree that "greed" is a big problem, but none of the information about the top and bottom 10% of the world's population by income supports your affluency claim concerning your average American citizen.
If anything, it backs up what I was saying earlier. You only see the rich people in our society because they are the ones with the greatest access to media outlets. Most people in this country are struggling to support their families just like every other industrialized nation.
If your argument for Kyoto is the reduction of GLOBAL warming via a reduction in greenhouse gases, then you should care about pollution in China and India. If you don't care, then why are you caring about US pollution? It is a global phenomenon isn't it?
As an example of how bad pollution is in China, the Chinese just put out an open coal pit fire that has been burning 1.8 million tons of coal a year.
But guess when that fire started? 1896. I'd like to see how much polution that caused all by itself. Its probably one of the largest single-point polution sources in the world.
Who knows what other stuff is going on that they won't tell us about.
Our standards of living are certainly different compared to someone living in a mud hut in the Sudan, but those individuals hardly represent the median or mode for planet Earth. You're making a value judgment that I don't believe you can backup. I would suggest you need to open your eyes.
Your fellow citizens are not as well off as you would like to believe. A little travel outside your community would be helpful.
Most Americans are not overly affluent, the problem is that you haven't done much travel in the US. As such you only see the affluent people Hollywood wants to show you on TV. Don't be fooled by the media, they don't represent the common people in this country.
A vast majority of us are trying to scrap together enough money to feed and cloth our families, in much the same way as any other common man around the world. The plight of the common man is just that, common.
Kerry's concession has nothing to do with whether or not a recount is done, or if provisional ballets are counted.
Both of these aspects are determined by state statute and the state's election body, not whether or not Kerry makes a concession speech.
The only thing Kerry's concession speech affected is the feelings and attitudes of his supporters, and the timing of later statements by various political parties.
A video reflecting in-game gameplay would be best served by... recording in-game gameplay, maybe? It sure as hell wouldn't be as interesting to watch, that's for sure.
Point taken, but having seen some rather beautiful screenshots from WoW it might actually be possible to pull off. This and still be a very useful marketing tool.
Federal appointments in the US such as the president are similar to how the EU selects its president. Each seperate state (country) gets a vote, but the people in those states themselves do not elect the president directly.
There are hundreds of thousands of ballots still uncounted. Many of them in many counties, will clearly show that Kerry had a much larger number of wins than Bush in many states. Added all together, Kerry had quite a few more electoral votes than our corrupt media would have you believe.
What are you talking about? You honestly have no idea how voting works in this country do you?
First off, Kerry conceding doesn't mean anything. If the final STATE CERTIFIED VOTE TABULATION showed that Kerry actually won over 270 electorial votes, he would retract his concession speach much like Gore did in 2000. His concession does not preclude him from office if he were the actuall winner...
Secondly, the media was very careful this time not to forecast the vote unless it could statistically back it up. Kerry and the DNC have their own people doing this same thing.
With 99-100% of the precincts in a state reporting their totals to the state's election body, they can easily tell whether or not the KNOWN number of absentee/provisional ballets would be enough to overcome the KNOWN vote deficit need for a specific canidate to win.
At time you made your post, very few people doubt the state of the electorate. Not that it matters, the electorial college hasn't even "met" yet. They will do that after each state certifies its vote and exercises their state's electorial distribution laws. The media has nothing to do with it.
How did you even come up with your opinion? Did someone tell you that, or did you come up with that on your own?
AFAIK, the only truly autonomous weaponry in use today is deployed by the US Navy.
They have a chaingun that when enabled, tracks and destroys airborn targets that come inside its operating envelope. Basically its used as a shield against missiles, and is quite effective since it can react MUCH quicker than a human decision maker. I've heard they have lots of problems with these chainguns making seagulls go "poof" though.
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Widely used, mission-essential, net-centric software will be managed and supported with disciplines similar to those used with weapon systems.
Translated: We will be turning these systems over to teenagers who have completed a compulsary 12-month training course.
Moderators: Was this funny because the poster doesn't know John Ashcroft's first name, or because the poster fails to understand that Ashcroft has nothing to do with state recount issues?
(swallows Doctor O's crazy pills)
...or you can just stop bringing me any old piece of trash you find laying around.
Let us not forget that Bruce Clinton was actually the silent partner and secret lover of Prescott Bush during the 30s as well.
Bruce also secretly funded the Nazi Impact Projection Project for Employing Ladies (NIPPEL) by capitalizing on favorable exchange rates between the deutche mark and the american dollar at neighborhood brothels.
And further there is proof that he used most of the proceeds to purchase a time machine, a fleet of black helicopters and a cloned baby jesus. All of which he delivered to Prescott on his birthday, September 11th.
Prescott's Uni-time Motion Project (PUMP) will be responsible for unleashing the Anti-Christ upon the world in the year 2012 when his time machine arrives to unleash it's fleet of black helicopters on all the unbelievers!
(Fight Club flashback)
Besides, MAD is a Mexican stand-off, and only works when both countries care about self-survival. It doesn't work in the case of, say, North Korea, who's leader is as loopy as the rides at Six Flags. Or Iran, who's leaders believe they'll go to heaven if they die in battle.
I think you are misunderstanding the struggle for control going on in places like Iran and North Korea. These people aren't dumb, and for the most part they are not loopy. What they are is extremely self-interested in remaining secure within their seats of power.
The reason you aren't able to understand the decisions these leaders make as rational in the classic sense is because you don't understand enough about the context in which those decisions are being made.
It most definitely would work for North Korea if they had a nuclear device. We already know they have a two-stage ICBM platform that works (they tested if _over_ Japan twice this year). The Kim Jung Il's of the world want nuclear weapons because it puts them in a more powerful bargaining position. Much like the grandparent's post stated.
And to come full circle you can hopefully understand why the US wants a theatre based energy weapon capable of neutralizing such a new found bargaining position. This type of missile defense system makes state sponsered ICBM technology less attractive because it will not provide its owner the capacity it thought it was buying/building.
...without another troll coming to his defense.
Thanks for proving the point.
Considering how many Iranian students the US sends back to Iran after they finish graduate school here, I'm pretty sure you are wrong.
Honestly, a little chihuahua that goes around nipping the ankles of a rottweiller is just asking to get eaten. If that isn't the textbook definition of "brainless", I don't know what is.
To the point... What is brainless? And who exactly are you calling brainless? Neither of these questions are well articulated in either of your posts. Unfortunately (fortunately if this was your intent) it will probably be read by Iranians and Koreans as an insulting slur against their national pride since it seems like you are implying that all of them are brainless.
most of the people working on nukes these days (Iran, North Korea) don't actually have any brains to speak of.
While I agree in part with your larger analysis, including this comment is difficult to understand. There are quite a few truly brilliant individuals in Iran and North Korea. In fact I'd imagine that levels of intelligence are distributed in similar proportions as in your own country.
Next time leave that crap out and you'll have a much stronger argument.
Keep it up. Im sure your country will fall into civil war soon enough.
Why is it that we can't have mature discussion of military technology? Some ass always has to post wishing a previous poster and/or his country a quick death, herpies, or civil war.
Please grow up....for the children.
If everyone was as sure about this seemingly peaceful world in which we are living in we'd all just simply disarm.
But the truth is, missile technology has yet to reach its zenith. A vast majority of the countries today have the resources and knowledge to buy or construct them. Many are already doing so. We see the UN warning that fissible material and delivery technology is being traded freely on the blackmarket. Eventually, even non-representitive groups will have access to missile technology.
If we had the ability to predict major world changes with sufficient lead time to re-arm our military to protect ourselves, I'd agree that this type of technology isn't needed or even useful at this time. But when you can't make such predictions, you prepare to defend against the potentual threats you can see.
Maybe, but its only becoming more self-evident to youself. You are failing to explain your perspective in an adequite manner to me, and I'd guess anyone else unfortunate enough to stumble upon this exchange.
It might be a first step in an ideological sense, but it is not a first step in a practical sense since it will not actually cause the root problem to be altered. If Bush would come up with a practical alternative (doubt it), he would be one of the first to do so.
All Kyoto does from the standpoint of an environmentalist is dump existing pollution into environments that likely don't have regulations and laws for dealing with it.
I think its quite possible that history will show that Kyoto ultimately lowered pollution in industrial countries at the cost of increased global pollution.
the only reason Dubya is taking this stance is because his family and all his friends stand to lose out BIG TIME
Considering that he likely believes his decision is good for the entire country given the poor implementation in the Kyoto Protocol, you would be correct that he believes his family and friends would lose out big time. Primarily because most of his friends and family are members of this country.
Even if he did sign it and used mind control to get the Senate to ratify it (never going to happen in the protocol's current form), it likely wouldn't have any effect during his lifetime on his friends or the environment.
Not that any of this matters anyway, the only thing Kyoto will actually do is more evenly distrubute the same growing pollution levels across the face of the planet.
Considering that human life is a terminal condition, your response seems a bit inadiquite.
I won't disagree that "greed" is a big problem, but none of the information about the top and bottom 10% of the world's population by income supports your affluency claim concerning your average American citizen.
If anything, it backs up what I was saying earlier. You only see the rich people in our society because they are the ones with the greatest access to media outlets. Most people in this country are struggling to support their families just like every other industrialized nation.
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network.
I just wanted to say that we both totally agree on the message in your sig, lol.
If your argument for Kyoto is the reduction of GLOBAL warming via a reduction in greenhouse gases, then you should care about pollution in China and India. If you don't care, then why are you caring about US pollution? It is a global phenomenon isn't it?
As an example of how bad pollution is in China, the Chinese just put out an open coal pit fire that has been burning 1.8 million tons of coal a year.
But guess when that fire started? 1896. I'd like to see how much polution that caused all by itself. Its probably one of the largest single-point polution sources in the world.
Who knows what other stuff is going on that they won't tell us about.
Our standards of living are certainly different compared to someone living in a mud hut in the Sudan, but those individuals hardly represent the median or mode for planet Earth. You're making a value judgment that I don't believe you can backup. I would suggest you need to open your eyes.
Your fellow citizens are not as well off as you would like to believe. A little travel outside your community would be helpful.
Your point would be stronger if that was actually a Bush quote. It probably isn't that hard, go find one.
Most Americans are not overly affluent, the problem is that you haven't done much travel in the US. As such you only see the affluent people Hollywood wants to show you on TV. Don't be fooled by the media, they don't represent the common people in this country.
A vast majority of us are trying to scrap together enough money to feed and cloth our families, in much the same way as any other common man around the world. The plight of the common man is just that, common.
Kerry's concession has nothing to do with whether or not a recount is done, or if provisional ballets are counted.
Both of these aspects are determined by state statute and the state's election body, not whether or not Kerry makes a concession speech.
The only thing Kerry's concession speech affected is the feelings and attitudes of his supporters, and the timing of later statements by various political parties.
A video reflecting in-game gameplay would be best served by... recording in-game gameplay, maybe? It sure as hell wouldn't be as interesting to watch, that's for sure.
Point taken, but having seen some rather beautiful screenshots from WoW it might actually be possible to pull off. This and still be a very useful marketing tool.
Federal appointments in the US such as the president are similar to how the EU selects its president. Each seperate state (country) gets a vote, but the people in those states themselves do not elect the president directly.
There are hundreds of thousands of ballots still uncounted. Many of them in many counties, will clearly show that Kerry had a much larger number of wins than Bush in many states. Added all together, Kerry had quite a few more electoral votes than our corrupt media would have you believe.
What are you talking about? You honestly have no idea how voting works in this country do you?
First off, Kerry conceding doesn't mean anything. If the final STATE CERTIFIED VOTE TABULATION showed that Kerry actually won over 270 electorial votes, he would retract his concession speach much like Gore did in 2000. His concession does not preclude him from office if he were the actuall winner...
Secondly, the media was very careful this time not to forecast the vote unless it could statistically back it up. Kerry and the DNC have their own people doing this same thing.
With 99-100% of the precincts in a state reporting their totals to the state's election body, they can easily tell whether or not the KNOWN number of absentee/provisional ballets would be enough to overcome the KNOWN vote deficit need for a specific canidate to win.
At time you made your post, very few people doubt the state of the electorate. Not that it matters, the electorial college hasn't even "met" yet. They will do that after each state certifies its vote and exercises their state's electorial distribution laws. The media has nothing to do with it.
How did you even come up with your opinion? Did someone tell you that, or did you come up with that on your own?
AFAIK, the only truly autonomous weaponry in use today is deployed by the US Navy.
They have a chaingun that when enabled, tracks and destroys airborn targets that come inside its operating envelope. Basically its used as a shield against missiles, and is quite effective since it can react MUCH quicker than a human decision maker. I've heard they have lots of problems with these chainguns making seagulls go "poof" though.