Quite a few intelligent and informative commenters here today, while the post itself is either completely moronic or dishonest.
Zucker-dood isn't giving anything away, doucheys.
They claimed the very same thing about the Rockefellers, Mellons, du Ponts, Harrimans (Mortimers), Morgans, et al., and they simply shifted their wealth and ownership over to foundations and trusts to hide it, and better control it, and avoid taxation.
A short item from the 1968 Congressional Report on Foundations and Trusts, by Rep. Wright Patman, the greatest populist out of Texas, and perhaps America's absolutely greatest populist of all time, a real man of the people!
Congressman Wright Patman, chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, proved in 1967 Hearings that 14 Rockefeller foundations held assets of more than $1 billion in Standard Oil stock. Not only did they pay no tax on this stock, but it gave them permanent control over the family owned firm. Rival financiers could not buy control of Standard Oil because its stock was insulated by foundation ownership. As Patman pointed out, the fact that the Rockefellers escaped paying huge sums in taxes gave them an unsurpassed market advantage over other firms which had to pay normal rates of taxation. The agitation for increased "corporate taxation" adds to Rockefeller's advantage. Patman said, "The Foundations are the best investments the Rockefeller family could have made."
The poster's homework assignment is to read the following:
And we all viewed that youtube when Rep. Alan Grayson attempted to question the inspector general of the entire Federal Reserve System, and the swine, even though she was then sitting on both her hands, kept repeating should still couldn't find her butt!
Somehow, this NSA infomercial neglected to mention the lies told by Graham and Clapper to congress, which should constitute treason at the very least!
Somehow, this NSA infomercial neglected to mention that Gen. Clapper was part of Geo. Bush's "fabricated WMD intel in Iraq" team, and lied his ass off on behalf of the Bush administration and WMDs in Iraq.
Somehow, we still don't have any forensic audits to see how many millions are wasted daily at the CIA, NSA and DIA (by wasted, one means they are both siphoned off for their profit, and shifted offshore for their future profit).
And while they are at it, tell Gates to direct Microsoft Corporation to cease financially supporting (along with others) David Rockefeller's and Henry Kissinger's American Friends of Bilderberg, Inc.. (But we both know they never will......)
....by understanding that back in 2000 or around there, there were four countries in the Middle East which had yet to sign onto the WTO's Financial Services Agreement (allowing for foreign ownership of banks and acceptance of credit derivatives): Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran (since then, Iraq, an invaded country, and Libya, with their overthrown government, have since signed on).
No offense, dood, since you make several lucid comments, but have you ever familiarized with the habitat in which you exist (namely America)? I mean, we have been in the "official" 4th jobless recovery, (really the 6th), which means that of those jobs lost, only half again are created, and of those, half are at less wages than those lost, and a larger portion than ever are now temporary or contractor jobs.
You are now beginning to realize why David Rockefeller accompanied President Nixon and Henry Kissinger aboard those flights to China when they were opening relations with them (Rockefeller established banking operations in both Beijing and Moscow back in 1973). You may now be realizing why David Rockefeller founded the Council of the Americas to lobby for the passage of NAFTA --- which was primarily about allowing for foreign ownership of Mexican banks, and secondarily about offshoring jobs there. You may now be realizing that TPP, or Trans-Pacific Partnership, is the mother of all "free trade" agreements, and that along with TAFTA or the Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, we are truly screwed in America?
A couple of network engineers in Austin once used the same argument to me when I warned them about offshoring at their corporation (back around 2003-2004). The next time I happened to see them, they were being interviewed by a local Austin TV reporter, and were living in a park in Austin!
Oh wow, a real bunch of database and IT professionals commenting here today, huh? ? ?
Just kidding, kiddies!
Obviously, since data mining went critical mass around 2003 or 2004, all anyone requires is either your name and telephone number or your age and zipcode to find everything they require about your background.
One reads this frequent insipid-type posts every so often here, and wonder, WTF?
OK, you've never heard of all those foreign replacement workers, a large number brought over from India? You've never heard of Gupta, formerly at McKinsey & Company, or Diana Farrell over at McKinsey Global, who have made big bucks outlining the most efficient ways for American corporations and American-based multinationals to offshore as many jobs as possible? (Read p.139 of The Billionaire's Apprentice for an excellent synopsis of this.)
You've never picked up a newspaper, or seen any news reports about this the past twenty years or so?
So that story in the biz section of USA Today back in 2002, where the female IT workers were screaming because they began replacing them with Punjabi H1-Bs (funny how they didn't scream when they had replaced all the American male IT workers there with Punjabi workers on foreign work visas?)?
Now, now, just because Eric Holder made his big bucks and Covington and Burling, defending the corporations from hiring assassins to murder labor organizers and protesters in South America and Africa (Coca-Cola, Conoco, etc.) is no reason to doubt the Wall Street lackey!
Because they US government has reserved the luxorious Gary Webb room for his use, or the extravagant John Kiriakou penthouse suite for his use, or the richly decorated Jeremy Hammond suite for his use, or the exquisitely detailed Aaron Swartz suite for his pleasure, etc., etc., etc.
You make a valid comment, but the super-rich working through America really don't care about whether someone is made the "martyr" or not, they are simply to powerful to care about such trifles! Go back and take a close look at the details and circumstances surrounding the Bobby Kennedy assassination in 1968, they were so powerful that time, that unlike the JFK and MLK murders, they were as open and careless as possible. You may believe or think the hegemons bother about worrying about the masses, but believe me, they don't!
Well and beautifully stated, Good Citizen, OzPeter. Sweden has already been involved, colluding with the US government, in the extreme rendition of several innocent Arab-Swedes, who have since gone to court, been found innocent and financially remunerated for the crimes against them. Sweden has already established a record in this, just like the USA.
Then, douchebagger, kindly explain to the rest of us poor slobs and dimwitted souls, why the bloody hell the Swedes can't question Assange (remember, douchey, Assange is wanted ONLY for questioning at this point) while he was residing in the UK under their supervision?
Naaaahhhh, overshoot, that never happens. Only when Boeing's subsidiary Jeppesen Dataplan is involved. Oh, looky there, they want to extradite Assange to Gothenburg, where Jeppesen Systems AB, another of those Boeing Jeppesen "extreme rendition airlines" subsidiaries, just happens to be!
A short time ago, Colin Powell's former military aide stated publicly (and I believe he actually signed a deposition to this fact) that both Cheney and Rumsfeld were aware that probably the majority of those held at Gitmo were not guilty of anything, but if they allowed them to go what would they have to show for their so-called War on Terrorism (which, any American above the retardate level realizes, is being waged against us by those Wall Streeters!).
He's wanted for questioning, what part of that don't or can't you understand. WikiLeaks' Assange has yet to be charged with anything, he is to be extradited physically to Sweden, because somehow, as the British Justice so acerbically stated, the effing Swedes are to incompetent to fly, or call over to, the UK to question Assange. Now why does he have to be physically extradited just for questioning, dood?
And why are you still so effing ignorant about the entire matter, dood?
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Quite a few intelligent and informative commenters here today, while the post itself is either completely moronic or dishonest.
Zucker-dood isn't giving anything away, doucheys.
They claimed the very same thing about the Rockefellers, Mellons, du Ponts, Harrimans (Mortimers), Morgans, et al., and they simply shifted their wealth and ownership over to foundations and trusts to hide it, and better control it, and avoid taxation.
A short item from the 1968 Congressional Report on Foundations and Trusts, by Rep. Wright Patman, the greatest populist out of Texas, and perhaps America's absolutely greatest populist of all time, a real man of the people!
Congressman Wright Patman, chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, proved in 1967 Hearings that 14 Rockefeller foundations held assets of more than $1 billion in Standard Oil stock. Not only did they pay no tax on this stock, but it gave them permanent control over the family owned firm. Rival financiers could not buy control of Standard Oil because its stock was insulated by foundation ownership. As Patman pointed out, the fact that the Rockefellers escaped paying huge sums in taxes gave them an unsurpassed market advantage over other firms which had to pay normal rates of taxation. The agitation for increased "corporate taxation" adds to Rockefeller's advantage. Patman said, "The Foundations are the best investments the Rockefeller family could have made."
The poster's homework assignment is to read the following:
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0303critic/030304lberg/030304toc.html
....the three great submediocrities of SF, Sterling, Stephenson and Gibson.
...why are you such a coporate stooge, and why can't you write any decent SF?
Just asking . . . .
Correct, NSA, CIA and DIA are rogue outfits and should be immediately investigated and audited.
And we all viewed that youtube when Rep. Alan Grayson attempted to question the inspector general of the entire Federal Reserve System, and the swine, even though she was then sitting on both her hands, kept repeating should still couldn't find her butt!
Somehow, this NSA infomercial neglected to mention the lies told by Graham and Clapper to congress, which should constitute treason at the very least!
Somehow, this NSA infomercial neglected to mention that Gen. Clapper was part of Geo. Bush's "fabricated WMD intel in Iraq" team, and lied his ass off on behalf of the Bush administration and WMDs in Iraq.
Somehow, we still don't have any forensic audits to see how many millions are wasted daily at the CIA, NSA and DIA (by wasted, one means they are both siphoned off for their profit, and shifted offshore for their future profit).
And while they are at it, tell Gates to direct Microsoft Corporation to cease financially supporting (along with others) David Rockefeller's and Henry Kissinger's American Friends of Bilderberg, Inc.. (But we both know they never will......)
"There's noting like a good conspiracy story to get a rise ..."
Sure sounded factual to me, sonny? WTF are you prattling on about? Oh, you believe we exist in a meritocracy in America, do you?
....by understanding that back in 2000 or around there, there were four countries in the Middle East which had yet to sign onto the WTO's Financial Services Agreement (allowing for foreign ownership of banks and acceptance of credit derivatives): Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran (since then, Iraq, an invaded country, and Libya, with their overthrown government, have since signed on).
Starting to wise up a bit?
....as it has turned out to be. (WTF?)
No offense, dood, since you make several lucid comments, but have you ever familiarized with the habitat in which you exist (namely America)? I mean, we have been in the "official" 4th jobless recovery, (really the 6th), which means that of those jobs lost, only half again are created, and of those, half are at less wages than those lost, and a larger portion than ever are now temporary or contractor jobs.
You are now beginning to realize why David Rockefeller accompanied President Nixon and Henry Kissinger aboard those flights to China when they were opening relations with them (Rockefeller established banking operations in both Beijing and Moscow back in 1973). You may now be realizing why David Rockefeller founded the Council of the Americas to lobby for the passage of NAFTA --- which was primarily about allowing for foreign ownership of Mexican banks, and secondarily about offshoring jobs there. You may now be realizing that TPP, or Trans-Pacific Partnership, is the mother of all "free trade" agreements, and that along with TAFTA or the Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, we are truly screwed in America?
Have a nice day, dood!
A couple of network engineers in Austin once used the same argument to me when I warned them about offshoring at their corporation (back around 2003-2004). The next time I happened to see them, they were being interviewed by a local Austin TV reporter, and were living in a park in Austin!
. . . this "older" dood still doesn't understand this???????
Oh wow, a real bunch of database and IT professionals commenting here today, huh? ? ?
Just kidding, kiddies!
Obviously, since data mining went critical mass around 2003 or 2004, all anyone requires is either your name and telephone number or your age and zipcode to find everything they require about your background.
One reads this frequent insipid-type posts every so often here, and wonder, WTF?
OK, you've never heard of all those foreign replacement workers, a large number brought over from India? You've never heard of Gupta, formerly at McKinsey & Company, or Diana Farrell over at McKinsey Global, who have made big bucks outlining the most efficient ways for American corporations and American-based multinationals to offshore as many jobs as possible? (Read p.139 of The Billionaire's Apprentice for an excellent synopsis of this.)
You've never picked up a newspaper, or seen any news reports about this the past twenty years or so?
So that story in the biz section of USA Today back in 2002, where the female IT workers were screaming because they began replacing them with Punjabi H1-Bs (funny how they didn't scream when they had replaced all the American male IT workers there with Punjabi workers on foreign work visas?)?
What planet did you say you were from?
They want him for questioning, he has yet to be charged with anything.
http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf
Very well stated, and thanks, Good Citizen anon.
Now, now, just because Eric Holder made his big bucks and Covington and Burling, defending the corporations from hiring assassins to murder labor organizers and protesters in South America and Africa (Coca-Cola, Conoco, etc.) is no reason to doubt the Wall Street lackey!
Because they US government has reserved the luxorious Gary Webb room for his use, or the extravagant John Kiriakou penthouse suite for his use, or the richly decorated Jeremy Hammond suite for his use, or the exquisitely detailed Aaron Swartz suite for his pleasure, etc., etc., etc.
You make a valid comment, but the super-rich working through America really don't care about whether someone is made the "martyr" or not, they are simply to powerful to care about such trifles! Go back and take a close look at the details and circumstances surrounding the Bobby Kennedy assassination in 1968, they were so powerful that time, that unlike the JFK and MLK murders, they were as open and careless as possible. You may believe or think the hegemons bother about worrying about the masses, but believe me, they don't!
Well and beautifully stated, Good Citizen, OzPeter. Sweden has already been involved, colluding with the US government, in the extreme rendition of several innocent Arab-Swedes, who have since gone to court, been found innocent and financially remunerated for the crimes against them. Sweden has already established a record in this, just like the USA.
Then, douchebagger, kindly explain to the rest of us poor slobs and dimwitted souls, why the bloody hell the Swedes can't question Assange (remember, douchey, Assange is wanted ONLY for questioning at this point) while he was residing in the UK under their supervision?
Naaaahhhh, overshoot, that never happens. Only when Boeing's subsidiary Jeppesen Dataplan is involved. Oh, looky there, they want to extradite Assange to Gothenburg, where Jeppesen Systems AB, another of those Boeing Jeppesen "extreme rendition airlines" subsidiaries, just happens to be!
Again, thank you, Good Citizen wcrowe!
A short time ago, Colin Powell's former military aide stated publicly (and I believe he actually signed a deposition to this fact) that both Cheney and Rumsfeld were aware that probably the majority of those held at Gitmo were not guilty of anything, but if they allowed them to go what would they have to show for their so-called War on Terrorism (which, any American above the retardate level realizes, is being waged against us by those Wall Streeters!).
He's wanted for questioning, what part of that don't or can't you understand. WikiLeaks' Assange has yet to be charged with anything, he is to be extradited physically to Sweden, because somehow, as the British Justice so acerbically stated, the effing Swedes are to incompetent to fly, or call over to, the UK to question Assange. Now why does he have to be physically extradited just for questioning, dood?
And why are you still so effing ignorant about the entire matter, dood?
http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf
Thank you!
...because under the rules and regulations of the European Union, that was not a valid warrent for his arrest to begin with.
http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf