But for the average user, or business, Red Hat is probably the solution for support. That's in the USA.
Most of the average users or business don't use Red Hat Linux, however. The average users are using Windows, and the average business are using NT or a high-end UNIX. And generally put, when the average person or business decides to deploy a UNIX, they've got people on staff to help them, or in the case of the individual, they can help themselves.
So no, Red Hat's model won't cut it- they have to beat out users who know what they are doing, newsgroups/mailinglists/IRC channels, and people who have on-staff geeks to fix this kinda thing.
Oh, and I've been hearing that all of the.coms are "on their way to making a profit" for quite some time now..
Clean sources of power:
Hydroelectric, wind, solar, geothermal.
And then there's nuclear, which produces very dangerous waste, but it's much more feasible to manage- it isn't spewn into the atmosphere.
What is the source of the vast majority of air pollution? Cars, by far. In fact, the pollution of power plants could increase by a magnitude of 10 and still not equal the amount of pollution put out by mobile sources.
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What about in my case, where my pirated copy (all 14 or however many floppies) of KQ4 went bad?
KQ4 was perhaps one of my favorite games of the KQ series, probably because it was my first that I really took to..
Rosella, you'll find that bridle yet. Just tickle the tounge inside of the whale..
Do you know what kind of money you would have put your money into a vechile performing as well as the S&P 500, say, 15 months before the Black Monday crash of 1987?
Here's a hint. Your money would have quadrupled. Even you managed 3% in your guaranteed investment, your money would have only increased by a factor of e^(.03*14)~=1.52 - you wouldn't even have doubled your money.
A "safety net" of half of your annual salary is crazy- 1-2 months would do it, and if you do encounter a temporary shortfall, there's nothing wrong with taking a little low-interest credit.
The market is a wonderful thing, except for those who only think short-term.
And _you_ seem to forget that the federal government can delegate powers to itself:
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by
this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
And in all seriousness, if noone else steps up, I don't see why the federal government shouldn't- it'd certainly be less a waste of money than SDI. Where's the harm?
The 10th amendment was just an attempt to make the southern states and states rights nuts shut up. Apparently it didn't work.
That's a good question. Perhaps there should be a way to see what articles have been submitted and rejected, just so we can get an idea of what we aren't seeing- that way we can give more feeback, such as: "Pass more of those radio-centric articles"
I've heard the argument that it is kept private to keep trolls from submitting stupid stories just to well, "mark their territory" on slashdot, but that can be remedied by having the people who review the article have a choice: accept, reject, or delete. We'd only see rejected articles on the "rejected stories" page, deleted articles would go into the abyss.
(still posting without the +1 Bonus because it's somewhat off-topic, but important anyway)
I'll bite, only because the parent comment somehow managed to be modded up.
Linux was the first OS ever to boot on Itanium. (*bsd not there).
Where are the Itanium computers? This port isn't of much use to nearly everyone.
Linux was first on PPC64. (*bsd not there).
Where are the PPC64 computers?
Linux was first free OS on S/390. (*bsd not there.)How many people own an S/390?
Linux was first on UltraSPARC.
And where is a semi-usable UltraSPARC distribution?
Heck, all of these ports require much hand-rolling. And you also mentioned hardware which the vast majority of people here have never even touched or seen- have you?
Proof of concept ports, and ports that aren't deployed anywhere in the real world: these aren't of much use, regardless of if the port is of a Linux or a BSD.
You already are hardware based mp3 players available for download.
However, I doubt we'll see any sort of IC fabs capable of producing anything as complicated as say, a 555, on the desktop within the next 50 years. Call me skeptical.
Electronics buffs, we build stuff that we download, design, read in books, etc. Automation would be getting access to a plotter or a UV rig for making PCB construction much, much easier.
This needs to be said. You aren't even the only person in this thread who's misused the term..
In a modern OS; one with a virtual memory subsystem (read: basically every modern OS), all memory accessed is virtual memory. To an application, memory is memory. To the upper half of the kernel, a page of memory is a page of memory. It's only deep in the lower half does the fact that some pages are stored on a swap medium, and others are in actual physical memory.
It's called virtual because the addressing system that the OS uses for accessing pages is independant from the physical addressing of the RAM. This lack of direct memory access also makes protected memory less of a bitch to implement on non-protected mode processors.
To conclude, it's not as much work to add a port as one might think, and except in the (less common) cases of working with MD code, you improve one port and you improve them all.
You can't remove the BSDL. But you can add additional restrictions for it's distribution. A ton of people get this confused, but it's the truth- yes, that does mean I can take a version of FreeBSD,"embrace and extend" and sell it closed source (or even with source, but restrict redistribution)
I'm not saying this is a bad thing. All of my work has been released under the BSDL (or in some rare exceptions, public domain). I don't even think it's "stealing" -- I'm one of the biggest BSDL bigots out there, but you have to understand- someone can, under the myopic slashdot definition, "steal" BSDL software.
Seriously, you may spend your first couple dollars on the new flashy arcade game, where every quarter buys about a minute of fun, but then you'll find your way to pinball, where it's truly a test of skill and it won't make you bankrupt anywhere near as quickly (unless you suck)
Are you saying that your intellictual property is protected by the fifth amendment?
If that is what you're saying, that's quite an interesting point of view and I can only wonder how the courts would interpret that. I assure you that one day this will be argued in front of the Supreme Court.
(I'm not the moderator, but I think I understand why he did what he did)
It all comes down to "They can steal stuff from BSD-licensed"
It's not stealing. It's sharing. Commercial companies can use BSD-licensed code (I release my work under a BSD-style license) and the benefits to you, the OSS-minded consumer, are:
1. Compatiblity. There's more of a chance that the products are compatible, or similar.
2. Contributions back. Companies often contribute back (Apple/Darwin) to reduce merging costs, or to increase peer review.
3. PR. It's good PR among OSS-nuts to contribute back.
So, you see, we're not crazy for welcoming closed-source developers with open arms. They wouldn't be in the party otherwise, and even though some of them (MS, perhaps) might not be contributing back to the party, some of them (Apple) are!
Just to not be ambigous, the licenser is the person releasing their code, and the licensee is the person/people/company who wants to use the code.
The conditions of copyright reproduction must be met by the licensee in order to redistribute. If they meet these conditions, then they may turn around and add _more_ restrictions if they wish. They cannot remove the license that the licenser had placed them, as that license must remain intact- but they can certainly add more restrictions.
Otherwise, Darwin would be a joke, and the BSD license would be no different from the GPL.
2. I think we've seen that the existance of better commerical software is not the death to free software. Let's say the next version of PhotoShop has all of the usual PS features as well as the handful of features that only existed in Gimp. Now this would basically be "embracing and extending" - but do you think that Gimp users and, more importantly, developers are about to throw down their keyboards and go use Adobe?
Open source has a different mindshare than closed source. Better closed source software inspires open source developers, it doesn't cause them to convert. If it did, Linux users would be switching in mass to Win2K.
Sure they do. Otherwise, species would never have developed any genetic variations and survival of the fittest would be moot, as all genes would be the same in the species, and we would have no evolution and be one giantly large incestful family.
Of course, mutations are rare. But depending on the life cycle of the bug, it's certainly possible to see a mutation have an undesired affect in a couple thousand generations. Throw in radiation, which is credited as causing gene damage (Hiroshima babies and formation of life theories), and you can certainly have something incredible happen over the course of hundreds of thousands of generations.
14.4k or not, the latency was wonderful with BBSes for obvious reasons (one hop away!)
I remember getting my 14.4k. Quite a leap up from my 2400bps- I remember not having to wait for most text to load..
That's the problem with telnet BBSes- the latency sucks. Unfortunately, I doubt there are any easy solutions to this- what would be best is a BRE-manager that would allow the client to reproduce the menus on cue, etc, and have only the bare essentials sent down the pipe. Would certainly make latency less noticable..
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Most of the average users or business don't use Red Hat Linux, however. The average users are using Windows, and the average business are using NT or a high-end UNIX. And generally put, when the average person or business decides to deploy a UNIX, they've got people on staff to help them, or in the case of the individual, they can help themselves.
So no, Red Hat's model won't cut it- they have to beat out users who know what they are doing, newsgroups/mailinglists/IRC channels, and people who have on-staff geeks to fix this kinda thing.
Oh, and I've been hearing that all of the .coms are "on their way to making a profit" for quite some time now..
Hydroelectric, wind, solar, geothermal.
And then there's nuclear, which produces very dangerous waste, but it's much more feasible to manage- it isn't spewn into the atmosphere.
What is the source of the vast majority of air pollution? Cars, by far. In fact, the pollution of power plants could increase by a magnitude of 10 and still not equal the amount of pollution put out by mobile sources.
KQ4 was perhaps one of my favorite games of the KQ series, probably because it was my first that I really took to..
Rosella, you'll find that bridle yet. Just tickle the tounge inside of the whale..
Here's a hint. Your money would have quadrupled. Even you managed 3% in your guaranteed investment, your money would have only increased by a factor of e^(.03*14)~=1.52 - you wouldn't even have doubled your money.
A "safety net" of half of your annual salary is crazy- 1-2 months would do it, and if you do encounter a temporary shortfall, there's nothing wrong with taking a little low-interest credit.
The market is a wonderful thing, except for those who only think short-term.
And in all seriousness, if noone else steps up, I don't see why the federal government shouldn't- it'd certainly be less a waste of money than SDI. Where's the harm?
The 10th amendment was just an attempt to make the southern states and states rights nuts shut up. Apparently it didn't work.
I've heard the argument that it is kept private to keep trolls from submitting stupid stories just to well, "mark their territory" on slashdot, but that can be remedied by having the people who review the article have a choice: accept, reject, or delete. We'd only see rejected articles on the "rejected stories" page, deleted articles would go into the abyss.
(still posting without the +1 Bonus because it's somewhat off-topic, but important anyway)
Yes, VA has more than one class action lawsuit pending, but we don't hear about most of them here.
2001-03-03 04:28:20 Class action lawsuit against VA Linux (articles,va) (rejected)
So when there is bad news about Yahoo, it gets published, but not when it's about VA?
This almost causes me to question journalistic integrity.
(Have No Score +1 Bonus checked because people will scream off-topic, but the issue needs to be addressed somewhere)
Linux was the first OS ever to boot on Itanium. (*bsd not there).
Where are the Itanium computers? This port isn't of much use to nearly everyone.
Linux was first on PPC64. (*bsd not there).
Where are the PPC64 computers?
Linux was first free OS on S/390. (*bsd not there.)How many people own an S/390?
Linux was first on UltraSPARC.
And where is a semi-usable UltraSPARC distribution?
Heck, all of these ports require much hand-rolling. And you also mentioned hardware which the vast majority of people here have never even touched or seen- have you?
Proof of concept ports, and ports that aren't deployed anywhere in the real world: these aren't of much use, regardless of if the port is of a Linux or a BSD.
However, I doubt we'll see any sort of IC fabs capable of producing anything as complicated as say, a 555, on the desktop within the next 50 years. Call me skeptical.
Electronics buffs, we build stuff that we download, design, read in books, etc. Automation would be getting access to a plotter or a UV rig for making PCB construction much, much easier.
In a modern OS; one with a virtual memory subsystem (read: basically every modern OS), all memory accessed is virtual memory. To an application, memory is memory. To the upper half of the kernel, a page of memory is a page of memory. It's only deep in the lower half does the fact that some pages are stored on a swap medium, and others are in actual physical memory.
It's called virtual because the addressing system that the OS uses for accessing pages is independant from the physical addressing of the RAM. This lack of direct memory access also makes protected memory less of a bitch to implement on non-protected mode processors.
They wanted a UNIX. They wanted TCP/IP. They happened to use Berkeley- that's quite different from generally "funding BSD development"
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You also must reproduce the copyright notice.
To say that Kansas agrees with the statement that the Genome undeniably proves evolution is, well, a statement without any fact backing it up.
http://www.netbsd.org/Goals/portability.html
http://www.netbsd.org/Goals/system.html
To conclude, it's not as much work to add a port as one might think, and except in the (less common) cases of working with MD code, you improve one port and you improve them all.
You can't remove the BSDL. But you can add additional restrictions for it's distribution. A ton of people get this confused, but it's the truth- yes, that does mean I can take a version of FreeBSD,"embrace and extend" and sell it closed source (or even with source, but restrict redistribution)
I'm not saying this is a bad thing. All of my work has been released under the BSDL (or in some rare exceptions, public domain). I don't even think it's "stealing" -- I'm one of the biggest BSDL bigots out there, but you have to understand- someone can, under the myopic slashdot definition, "steal" BSDL software.
Seriously, you may spend your first couple dollars on the new flashy arcade game, where every quarter buys about a minute of fun, but then you'll find your way to pinball, where it's truly a test of skill and it won't make you bankrupt anywhere near as quickly (unless you suck)
If that is what you're saying, that's quite an interesting point of view and I can only wonder how the courts would interpret that. I assure you that one day this will be argued in front of the Supreme Court.
It all comes down to "They can steal stuff from BSD-licensed"
It's not stealing. It's sharing. Commercial companies can use BSD-licensed code (I release my work under a BSD-style license) and the benefits to you, the OSS-minded consumer, are:
1. Compatiblity. There's more of a chance that the products are compatible, or similar.
2. Contributions back. Companies often contribute back (Apple/Darwin) to reduce merging costs, or to increase peer review.
3. PR. It's good PR among OSS-nuts to contribute back.
So, you see, we're not crazy for welcoming closed-source developers with open arms. They wouldn't be in the party otherwise, and even though some of them (MS, perhaps) might not be contributing back to the party, some of them (Apple) are!
So no, it's not _stealing_!
Just to not be ambigous, the licenser is the person releasing their code, and the licensee is the person/people/company who wants to use the code.
The conditions of copyright reproduction must be met by the licensee in order to redistribute. If they meet these conditions, then they may turn around and add _more_ restrictions if they wish. They cannot remove the license that the licenser had placed them, as that license must remain intact- but they can certainly add more restrictions.
Otherwise, Darwin would be a joke, and the BSD license would be no different from the GPL.
2. I think we've seen that the existance of better commerical software is not the death to free software. Let's say the next version of PhotoShop has all of the usual PS features as well as the handful of features that only existed in Gimp. Now this would basically be "embracing and extending" - but do you think that Gimp users and, more importantly, developers are about to throw down their keyboards and go use Adobe?
Open source has a different mindshare than closed source. Better closed source software inspires open source developers, it doesn't cause them to convert. If it did, Linux users would be switching in mass to Win2K.
The look and feel could, in theory, become identical to a program written directly for Aqua.
GTK+ will probably get a port to Aqua, at which point X on X would be worth much less than it is now.
Repeat for Qt, perhaps even Motif, etc.
Of course, mutations are rare. But depending on the life cycle of the bug, it's certainly possible to see a mutation have an undesired affect in a couple thousand generations. Throw in radiation, which is credited as causing gene damage (Hiroshima babies and formation of life theories), and you can certainly have something incredible happen over the course of hundreds of thousands of generations.
I remember getting my 14.4k. Quite a leap up from my 2400bps- I remember not having to wait for most text to load..
That's the problem with telnet BBSes- the latency sucks. Unfortunately, I doubt there are any easy solutions to this- what would be best is a BRE-manager that would allow the client to reproduce the menus on cue, etc, and have only the bare essentials sent down the pipe. Would certainly make latency less noticable..