Nothing like it before it, nothing like it after it.
I also liked Usurper. SRE was OK. FE was OK. LORD was OK (borderline bad- I know I'll get flamed for this), Food Fight was a great way to spend your remaining minutes..:)
I would kill for a good modern day version of BRE. Alas, I doubt any replacement will capture the heart of the politics and strategy that was BRE.
They're not just responsible here in Connecticut, but it's a capital felony! Yes, someone can be put to death in my state who "illegally sells cocaine, heroine [sic], or methadone for finacial gain to a person who dies as a direct result of using the drug"
I don't know about the laws protecting people from crummy food in a restaurant, but civil action does and often happens when this is the case (and provable) and the restaurant can lose their license, etc.
I don't think that a doctor can "take your body
tissue sample without your consent and then..." as
I would notice a doctor trying to take a tissue
sample without my permission.
Perhaps what is meant that they can take the sample
and patent unique chemicals/cells found in it.
Oh, that's great- a Linux specific feature. I wouldn't call this an important innovation.
X and all its windowmanager goodness
I'll give you partial credit for X- it was heavily tied to closed systems for many years.
ports
If you're talking about the ports system that originated in FreeBSD, that's an implementation of a distribution system- a pretty nice one, mind you, but hardly an innovation for the textbooks. Open source produces much more nice implementations than new innovations- although not to say the latter doesn't occur as well (just not as common as people would think)!
SCSI emulation
Raw access to a drive to send ATAPI commands- hardly something noteworthy.
dual booting
Open Source can't be credited here. Period.
pluggable text editors (emacs &c)
I don't use emacs. Can't elaborate on where this technology originated, because I don't know enough.
desktop systems that can work with multiple WMs
Not the product of open source software.
Innovation is rare. Period. Unfortunately that's just a fact of life.
No, but the Bandura study (bobo doll) seems to be pretty relevant here. A child watching a character kill and be rewarded, not punished, is more likely to exhibit that behavior.
I trust the Bandura study more than I trust any recent meta-analysis study.
I do see your point, but this is probably a bad example. A review isn't news- I don't want to see reviews of any normal releases of software on the main page.
OpenBSD 2.8 release? Mainpage. A review? I can understand shoving that aside. I wouldn't call a review of a BSD something "really cool in the BSD world."
The CIA employs a huge number of languistic experts. Don't believe me? Head over to cia.gov and look at the positions they're hiring for.
As for the latter, that's basically the same concept as a OTP- just less flexible (not any message can be sent), although equally impossible to break (without having a code book).
There's not much you can do to stop terrorists from communicating.
But that analogy doesn't hold up, as a HAZMAT suit isn't comfortable, while the crux of the issue are BSD users (such as myself) saying that BSD is too comfortable for small tasks, and every day wear, while Linux users say that BSD isn't.
Of course, who do you want to believe? The people who are very familiar with the OS, or the people who use something else? (You could indeed argue that we're biased, but heck, most of us have used both in depth)
This isn't really true. I wouldn't go so far as to say that people are encouraged to replaced GPL'd code with BSD licensed bits. But, some people do work on it on their own, and if any of the BSDs have a choice between a BSD-licensed version and a GPLd version, quality being equal, they'll choose the BSD license.
As for not using software based soley on its license, if you aren't doing any real work with the source (contributing back, making derivatives) is just plain stupid. Who cares?
As for the right tool for the right job, sure that sounds great and all, but the jobs don't differ that much.
Do you use a big hammer for big nails and a small hammer for small nails? Do you have different hammers for aluminium nails, for steel nails, for iron nails?
Me, I like to find one good hammer, and use it for all nails. Because it's all just nails anyway.
You're right. Win2K, which reportedly has more BSD code in it, has caused the death of BSD. All of us BSD users out there: let's give up. There's a commerical product out there that uses some of our code, so why work with our own?
And, we can see how much we would have gained by using the GPL. We would never have had Apple to deal with messing with our software, and who wants Darwin? Who cares that we're getting free software donated back to everyone for technical merits, not legal?
Let's say there is about 20 times as much Linux traffic on USENET than BSD. Based on your 44,800 BSD user count, that means there are 896,000 Linux users. But http://counter.li.org/ estimates the count o be 16 million.
Or how about this? There is an infinite amount more traffic on the official freebsd user mailing list as opposed to the linux official user mailing list, hence linux has zero users.
Moral? These numbers don't prove a thing. I've seen this troll with every BSD post, and it's about time you give it up. If you believe that BSD is dead, suit yourself- there's no need to reassert it.
Of course, I shouldn't feed the troll- it just gives you the attention that your parents never did.
The actual Playstation consoles are - and always have been - sold at a loss.
That is "common knoweldge" yes, but I'm starting to question if that's true in this day and age. Sony is a massive company, they build a lot of things and obtain others in huge quantities.
To say that they're selling it at a loss is a huge leap of faith. I'd like to see proof of this.
If a business cannot scale beyond the county that they're in, say because they're a construction company and can't reasonably take a contract to build a skyscraper thousands of miles away.. then why would they spam?
My post said that most local businesses and a lot of national business aren't of the nature where adveritising on the national scale doesn't make sense. When was the last time you saw a superbowl ad for a plumber? Or a local auction house? Or a company that makes the little rubber feet that go onto electronic items so they don't scratch your furniture? Or for the maker of an IC?
Not everyone has a potential market that big, hence to think that a large portion of business will ever start doing it is crazy.
I don't like spam as much as the next guy, but to think that you'll ever get thousands a day? Get real.
They don't make Dreamcasts anymore. Hence, this argument is fairly moot- they're trying to liquidate- if you're willing to buy, I don't think they care what you're going to use it for.
We all know how much television production companies, local tuxedo rental shops, airlines, local (and government hired) waste collection services, local piano repairmen, local car mechanics, and the millions of other business that only work locally...
Get real- not every business has any need to let people around the world know about their product or service.
There's a huge difference between "Do everything right" and "Don't be the first" - Don't believe all of the propoganda that everyone tells you. (OpenBSD is the secure one, FreeBSD is the fast one, and NetBSD is the portable one that's always the last to get new toys) -- heck, NetBSD has _always_ blazed trails!
Well, the Dreamcast architecture was designed recently. The "PC" architecture contains throwbacks to the original 8086, released in 1978.
PCs are filled with legacy hardware. Not saying that this directly causes them to be less stable, as I have no real proof of it, but there's plently of anedoctal evidence to back that up.
Now, your argument "why don't people use game consoles over PCs?" is certainly valid. The answer is that when the PC architecture (ia32, x86, whatever you want to call it- you can be a pendant and argue against any one of those terms) doesn't cut it for a user, they get hardware that's generally considered to be nicer. Like a Sun machine. Or an Alpha.
Slashdot Mirror
Nothing like it before it, nothing like it after it.
I also liked Usurper. SRE was OK. FE was OK. LORD was OK (borderline bad- I know I'll get flamed for this), Food Fight was a great way to spend your remaining minutes.. :)
I would kill for a good modern day version of BRE. Alas, I doubt any replacement will capture the heart of the politics and strategy that was BRE.
I don't know about the laws protecting people from crummy food in a restaurant, but civil action does and often happens when this is the case (and provable) and the restaurant can lose their license, etc.
Perhaps what is meant that they can take the sample and patent unique chemicals/cells found in it.
Startling difference!
Beats out make xconfig and make menuconfig by a few years.
$ make xconfig
Oh, that's great- a Linux specific feature. I wouldn't call this an important innovation. X and all its windowmanager goodness
I'll give you partial credit for X- it was heavily tied to closed systems for many years.
ports
If you're talking about the ports system that originated in FreeBSD, that's an implementation of a distribution system- a pretty nice one, mind you, but hardly an innovation for the textbooks. Open source produces much more nice implementations than new innovations- although not to say the latter doesn't occur as well (just not as common as people would think)!
SCSI emulation
Raw access to a drive to send ATAPI commands- hardly something noteworthy.
dual booting
Open Source can't be credited here. Period.
pluggable text editors (emacs &c)
I don't use emacs. Can't elaborate on where this technology originated, because I don't know enough.
desktop systems that can work with multiple WMs
Not the product of open source software.
Innovation is rare. Period. Unfortunately that's just a fact of life.
No silly, now people will have to resort to a more proper term- "hardware deficient modems"
Lieberman is a great guy (he's my Senator) and he's not for censorship. He merely wants companies to not advertise to young kids.
Nobody has talked about limiting the sale of these games. Only limiting the advertisements. Don't fall victim to knee-jerk, folks.
I trust the Bandura study more than I trust any recent meta-analysis study.
For those of you who aren't familiar with behavioral pyschology/the Bandura study: http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/bandura.html look for "bobo doll studies"
OpenBSD 2.8 release? Mainpage. A review? I can understand shoving that aside. I wouldn't call a review of a BSD something "really cool in the BSD world."
This is humor, folks. Lighten up.
The CIA employs a huge number of languistic experts. Don't believe me? Head over to cia.gov and look at the positions they're hiring for.
As for the latter, that's basically the same concept as a OTP- just less flexible (not any message can be sent), although equally impossible to break (without having a code book).
There's not much you can do to stop terrorists from communicating.
Of course, who do you want to believe? The people who are very familiar with the OS, or the people who use something else? (You could indeed argue that we're biased, but heck, most of us have used both in depth)
learning about BSD from Linux users is like learning about Linux from http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/news/msnw/Li nuxMyths.asp here.
Sure, you could argue that there's no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but there's really no reason not to, if you feel like it.
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib.html#CONTR IB-WHAT this link will put it quite clear- programmers are wanted to work on important things, not political.
As for not using software based soley on its license, if you aren't doing any real work with the source (contributing back, making derivatives) is just plain stupid. Who cares?
Do you use a big hammer for big nails and a small hammer for small nails? Do you have different hammers for aluminium nails, for steel nails, for iron nails?
Me, I like to find one good hammer, and use it for all nails. Because it's all just nails anyway.
And, we can see how much we would have gained by using the GPL. We would never have had Apple to deal with messing with our software, and who wants Darwin? Who cares that we're getting free software donated back to everyone for technical merits, not legal?
Or how about this? There is an infinite amount more traffic on the official freebsd user mailing list as opposed to the linux official user mailing list, hence linux has zero users.
Moral? These numbers don't prove a thing. I've seen this troll with every BSD post, and it's about time you give it up. If you believe that BSD is dead, suit yourself- there's no need to reassert it.
Of course, I shouldn't feed the troll- it just gives you the attention that your parents never did.
That is "common knoweldge" yes, but I'm starting to question if that's true in this day and age. Sony is a massive company, they build a lot of things and obtain others in huge quantities.
To say that they're selling it at a loss is a huge leap of faith. I'd like to see proof of this.
If a business cannot scale beyond the county that they're in, say because they're a construction company and can't reasonably take a contract to build a skyscraper thousands of miles away.. then why would they spam?
My post said that most local businesses and a lot of national business aren't of the nature where adveritising on the national scale doesn't make sense. When was the last time you saw a superbowl ad for a plumber? Or a local auction house? Or a company that makes the little rubber feet that go onto electronic items so they don't scratch your furniture? Or for the maker of an IC?
Not everyone has a potential market that big, hence to think that a large portion of business will ever start doing it is crazy.
I don't like spam as much as the next guy, but to think that you'll ever get thousands a day? Get real.
In a modern system, applications only access virtual memory- that's what the VM subsystem handles.
Perhaps you mean swap?
They don't make Dreamcasts anymore. Hence, this argument is fairly moot- they're trying to liquidate- if you're willing to buy, I don't think they care what you're going to use it for.
So we can't easily take [filesystem_here] out of the kernel and expect reasonable results. But, we can and do implement a webserver in userland.
Tell me- would you like apache to run as root, keep root, and have full access to your hardware? That's what you're doing with TUX.
Get real- not every business has any need to let people around the world know about their product or service.
There's a huge difference between "Do everything right" and "Don't be the first" - Don't believe all of the propoganda that everyone tells you. (OpenBSD is the secure one, FreeBSD is the fast one, and NetBSD is the portable one that's always the last to get new toys) -- heck, NetBSD has _always_ blazed trails!
PCs are filled with legacy hardware. Not saying that this directly causes them to be less stable, as I have no real proof of it, but there's plently of anedoctal evidence to back that up.
Now, your argument "why don't people use game consoles over PCs?" is certainly valid. The answer is that when the PC architecture (ia32, x86, whatever you want to call it- you can be a pendant and argue against any one of those terms) doesn't cut it for a user, they get hardware that's generally considered to be nicer. Like a Sun machine. Or an Alpha.