Didn't SuSe produce a build server? why is it so difficult to provide processor specific precompiled packages. Ubuntu is only i386. The lowest denominator.
It's like saying: will the Y be the next mafia? The anormality is Microsoft. And its business conduct was good for them as the Mafia also makes big business. But when you contravene bones mores earlier or later people will show up and protest.
What you need to understand is the Japanese culture. They always start kind of "world domination" plans. Where is the 5gen computer?
Forget it. Japanese are good in making plans, plans that are absolutely tough and a bit over the top. But they lack the right "hacking" attitude and reality checks. It is just that the radicalism helped in the past.
The next internet is not "planned". It will just evolve.
No. Open Standard means multi-partisan process, specification freely available and license-free. Patents are incompatible with open standards unless available under royalty-free terms (!= free of charge).
MPEG-4 is no open standard. And Open XML is no open standard. OpenDocument is.
But there is no real legal study on their licensing terms you can quote. To me the CNS looks like a parody of SUN's license.
Why can't SUN ask IBM and Microsoft to sign a joint standard patent license/indemnificaiton that covers both OOXML and SUN and is based on SUN's terms.
A king of GPL for standards indemnification against patents that leaves no questions open and is applicable on a worldwide scale?
Good reasons why Open XML is suboptimal can be found on http://www.noooxml.org/ the website you won't find on wikipedia thank to their astroturf editors.
Open XML is broken XML. And the patent licensing conditions look like a minefield.
Pieter Hintjens who launched the OOXML campaign blogs about the ISO process.
The chairman of the Technical Committee in Cote d'Ivoire is Roger Kouadio, boss of Inova Formations, a Megatron business partner. Cote d'Ivoire becomes a 'P' member of ISO, with increased voting power.
The chairman of the Swiss committee, Hans-Rudolf Thomann, explains to the participants that "if we reach a majority to vote against Megatron, we will vote for Megatron, if we reach consensus to vote against Megatron, we will abstain." Switzerland is a 'P' member.
The Brazilian committee has 45 members, more than two thirds of which are Megatron partners, their costs paid by Megatron. Brazil is a 'P' member.
The list of P members has been updated to include Ecuador, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Trinidad & Tobago, and Sweden. All countries where Megatron has a solid position to ram through their broken format as a "standard".
A comment from one observer: "I expect that Megatron will take whatever national bodies they win, and have them join JTC1 as P-members at the last possible minute, on September 2nd even."
How does Pieter describe the behaviour of Microsoft?
Megatron continues to blast its OOXML format through the ISO process like a tank driving through a village church.
No. Read software patents. Software patents cover the trivial aspects.
A mars landing is complicated, rocket science, but it is easy to describe the process as it is done in patent writings: rocket device equipped With oxygen supply unit magically sent to Moon, interaction between the fuel supply unit associated with the engine device, not to forget a rocket engine steering unit..
Is a mars landing trivial. No.
But a patent on a mars landing would cover all the stuff you know when I say "Mars landing".
http://eupat.ffii.org/analysis/trivial/index.en.ht ml
In fact the IBM move clearly indicates how useful the software patent system is. It is time to put the kibosh on it. The problem is not to eliminate trivial patents as all software patents are trivial.
The United States Patent System is very smart. All public reform discussions are transformed into harmless "novelty" and "obviousness" discussions where professionals think they knew the purpose of these criteria. The system will implode once a powerful force will raise the issue of subject matter.
Software patents on standards are a pain. I see absolutely no role for patents in standardisation. The only advantage of rand licensing is money, the disadvantage control, exclusion of GPL products and bureaucracy for enterprises.
It would be better to stop granting of software patents.
No. In fact Miguel starts projects, promises to support X quite soon and then nothing happens. Two month later yet another project.
Is the implementation of silverlight stable, feature-complete, performant, reliable? Did they implement it with Ms NDA? I don't know.
I would prefer to have a working Flash-gnash implementation.
Mono was a plattform of empty promises.
Not really. there are corrupt Governments out there. My experience is that civil society creates the behaviour of government. When there are many eyes on the political process corruption gets more subtil.
You have to fight the battles, in the trenches. Dafaitisme does not help.
It is possible to win the copyright wars and those in the trenches know how. But of course they need support.
The gowers review is a perfect example. It was very good action, a real success. What would be needed is even more organisations and initiatives that contribute to these processes. Each UK citizen could submit a contribution. Who did?
Here enough persons contributed. But Lessig complains that the war is not over. No it is not. We are gaining ground everywhere. And the scene of persons in the trenches is very small. Join us, learn how to do it and we can get even more.
His scheme: I am a loser, so the polical system is corrupt.
Beeing a loser is good for selling books and boosting his acedemic career. He does not need a proof that he can do it because the others are to blame. It is easy to blame corruption.
Hernán Cortés, how many soldiers did he need to destroy the aztec civilisation?
In fact Larry's problem is that he is a pseudo-scientific entertainer and he is great in what he does. But the defaitisme he spreads is just wrong, wrong wrong wrong. You don't need many persons to win the war but at least somebody has to come to the trenches and fight. It is real fun. But Larry has no experiences here.
Lessig as a preacher at home talks about war and the virtue of men. And now he wants to cure the bravery of the nation. He doesn't get that all these political problems can be solved when people actually take action. but he always spred these: this is rational but it all makes no sense, because the lobby is too strong atittude, that model is flawed.
Usually traditional lobbying is costly and inefficient. A lobbyist cannot beat a crowd of experienced activists. And lobbying does not mean blunt bribbery, more creating the environment and beeing there where decisions are made, hanging around with the decision makers, create a accessible environment.
The lamer attitude is to say: I lost, so it is all fraud. Or: Let's don't fight because our political system is corrupt. You change the political environment by fighting the war and creating your clamping points, creating order in no man's land. Learn to win and get addicted to it.
Please Larry, talk to persons who know how it works.
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Didn't SuSe produce a build server? why is it so difficult to provide processor specific precompiled packages. Ubuntu is only i386. The lowest denominator.
No, that is not the point: The point is that Microsoft does intentionally "evil". It is their business model!
Bill Gates: "why would the office group be giving out the Office 2000 formats to competitors. to me this seems crazy"
It's like saying: will the Y be the next mafia? The anormality is Microsoft. And its business conduct was good for them as the Mafia also makes big business. But when you contravene bones mores earlier or later people will show up and protest.
I don't trust a new open format.
What you need to understand is the Japanese culture. They always start kind of "world domination" plans. Where is the 5gen computer? Forget it. Japanese are good in making plans, plans that are absolutely tough and a bit over the top. But they lack the right "hacking" attitude and reality checks. It is just that the radicalism helped in the past. The next internet is not "planned". It will just evolve.
what do you think about the
http://www.noooxml.org/petition
campaign?
Maybe OOXML standardisation is just a trick they play to prevent EU interoperability sanctions with a fake ISO standard?
Imagine OOXML gets an ISO standard instead of an ECMA standard. What is the effect?
1. Ecma standard --> ISO standard
2. ???
3. Profit
Will ISO standardisation really weaken ODf or help to build up a strong ODF advocacy movement?
No.
Open Standard means multi-partisan process, specification freely available and license-free. Patents are incompatible with open standards unless available under royalty-free terms (!= free of charge).
MPEG-4 is no open standard. And Open XML is no open standard. OpenDocument is.
Cmp. http://www.noooxml.org/what-is-an-open-standard
But there is no real legal study on their licensing terms you can quote. To me the CNS looks like a parody of SUN's license. Why can't SUN ask IBM and Microsoft to sign a joint standard patent license/indemnificaiton that covers both OOXML and SUN and is based on SUN's terms. A king of GPL for standards indemnification against patents that leaves no questions open and is applicable on a worldwide scale?
You have to watch this in the context of ISO standardisation of ODF. With OOXML they sell their second standard.
Yes. But open xml has special features. It prevents a switch to a real XML format. http://www.noooxml.org/petition
Good reasons why Open XML is suboptimal can be found on
http://www.noooxml.org/
the website you won't find on wikipedia thank to their astroturf editors.
Open XML is broken XML. And the patent licensing conditions look like a minefield.
Microsoft should adopt OpenDocument.
It is more than that. Thanks to the patent deal Novell also does support ISO standardisation of OOXML.
I recommend http://www.noooxml.org/ as an introduction what this is all about.
No. Read software patents. Software patents cover the trivial aspects. A mars landing is complicated, rocket science, but it is easy to describe the process as it is done in patent writings: rocket device equipped With oxygen supply unit magically sent to Moon, interaction between the fuel supply unit associated with the engine device, not to forget a rocket engine steering unit.. Is a mars landing trivial. No. But a patent on a mars landing would cover all the stuff you know when I say "Mars landing". http://eupat.ffii.org/analysis/trivial/index.en.ht ml
In fact the IBM move clearly indicates how useful the software patent system is. It is time to put the kibosh on it. The problem is not to eliminate trivial patents as all software patents are trivial.
The United States Patent System is very smart. All public reform discussions are transformed into harmless "novelty" and "obviousness" discussions where professionals think they knew the purpose of these criteria. The system will implode once a powerful force will raise the issue of subject matter.
Software patents on standards are a pain. I see absolutely no role for patents in standardisation. The only advantage of rand licensing is money, the disadvantage control, exclusion of GPL products and bureaucracy for enterprises.
It would be better to stop granting of software patents.
I am not sure about this.
Some Novell employees are under Ms NDA. That is the trap.
No. In fact Miguel starts projects, promises to support X quite soon and then nothing happens. Two month later yet another project. Is the implementation of silverlight stable, feature-complete, performant, reliable? Did they implement it with Ms NDA? I don't know. I would prefer to have a working Flash-gnash implementation. Mono was a plattform of empty promises.
Not really. there are corrupt Governments out there. My experience is that civil society creates the behaviour of government. When there are many eyes on the political process corruption gets more subtil.
You have to fight the battles, in the trenches. Dafaitisme does not help.
It is possible to win the copyright wars and those in the trenches know how. But of course they need support.
The gowers review is a perfect example. It was very good action, a real success. What would be needed is even more organisations and initiatives that contribute to these processes. Each UK citizen could submit a contribution. Who did?
Here enough persons contributed. But Lessig complains that the war is not over. No it is not. We are gaining ground everywhere. And the scene of persons in the trenches is very small. Join us, learn how to do it and we can get even more.
His scheme: I am a loser, so the polical system is corrupt. Beeing a loser is good for selling books and boosting his acedemic career. He does not need a proof that he can do it because the others are to blame. It is easy to blame corruption. Hernán Cortés, how many soldiers did he need to destroy the aztec civilisation?
In fact Larry's problem is that he is a pseudo-scientific entertainer and he is great in what he does. But the defaitisme he spreads is just wrong, wrong wrong wrong. You don't need many persons to win the war but at least somebody has to come to the trenches and fight. It is real fun. But Larry has no experiences here.
Lessig as a preacher at home talks about war and the virtue of men. And now he wants to cure the bravery of the nation. He doesn't get that all these political problems can be solved when people actually take action. but he always spred these: this is rational but it all makes no sense, because the lobby is too strong atittude, that model is flawed.
Usually traditional lobbying is costly and inefficient. A lobbyist cannot beat a crowd of experienced activists. And lobbying does not mean blunt bribbery, more creating the environment and beeing there where decisions are made, hanging around with the decision makers, create a accessible environment.
The lamer attitude is to say: I lost, so it is all fraud. Or: Let's don't fight because our political system is corrupt. You change the political environment by fighting the war and creating your clamping points, creating order in no man's land. Learn to win and get addicted to it.
Please Larry, talk to persons who know how it works.
You mean the angry German childs? ;->
Hmm, after all the modern state of Poland is to a large percentage on German soil.
Indeed, an German is spoken in far more nations than dutch. It is arogant to say the least.
Yes, it is. And there are annual reports of compliance.
A. Microsoft shall not retaliate against an OEM by altering Microsoft's commercial relations with that OEM, or by withholding newly introduced forms of non-monetary Consideration (including but not limited to new versions of existing forms of non-monetary Consideration) from that OEM, because it is known to Microsoft that the OEM is or is contemplating:
1. developing, distributing, promoting, using, selling, or licensing any software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software or any product or service that distributes or promotes any Non-Microsoft Middleware;
2. shipping a Personal Computer that (a) includes both a Windows Operating System Product and a non-Microsoft Operating System, or (b) will boot with more than one Operating System; or
3. exercising any of the options or alternatives provided for under this Final Judgment.
Nothing in this provision shall prohibit Microsoft from enforcing any provision of any license with any OEM or any intellectual property right that is not inconsistent with this Final Judgment. Microsoft shall not terminate a Covered OEM's license for a Windows Operating System Product without having first given the Covered OEM written notice of the reasons for the proposed termination and not less than thirty days' opportunity to cure. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Microsoft shall have no obligation to provide such a termination notice and opportunity to cure to any Covered OEM that has received two or more such notices during the term of its Windows Operating System Product license.
Nothing in this provision shall prohibit Microsoft from providing Consideration to any OEM with respect to any Microsoft product or service where that Consideration is commensurate with the absolute level or amount of that OEM's development, distribution, promotion, or licensing of that Microsoft product or service.
It seems to me that the scribus project is governed very well. But of course a project needs ressources.