You're aware that the entire reason the Wright Brothers are famous is for inventing their guidance technology, right?
The first American rockets were entirely privately funded. You've conveniently leapt ahead to the space race.
Once the government became interested - as has been pointed out here before - the government ***made it illegal to use private rockets to reach space*** Got that? They were prevented - by government.
During a science class I attended around ten years ago conversation was on conservation. I mentioned methane and metal harvesting around Saturn and in the asteroid belt and a very serious young woman said "But you'll pollute the environment." I responded "What environment?" No answer of course, but she still saw mining in space as essentially "dirty" and not to be done.
Do not discount the damage enviro-weenies can do.
Me? I agree with you. I'd like to see as much material acquisition as possible come from space.
Bad, bad analogy. DeBeers deals in an artificial product - "Ohhh, pretty." This is why the fake market they've created exists. Rare earth metals are utilized by industry, like industrial diamonds. Industrial diamonds are cheap. They'll harvest the rare metals and we'll use them.
"...but all of the pioneer inventors would (and some did) just flop back into anonymity if governments didn't, at some point, recognize significance of their inventions and stood behind them with orders and research grants."
They invented it no more than the government did. Rocketry was not a product of governmental research or funding for said research. Some advances were made from such, but some advances were made without it as well.
RTFA yourself. He doesn't say oxidized molybdenum doesn't exist on Earth (it does).
Or, to quote The International Molybdenum Association in its Background Chemistry of Molybdenum (para Oxidation states)
"In its compounds molybdenum exhibits all oxidation states from -II to V1"
He states (with no support) that it couldn't have at that time and that Mars did and that further, it was necessary for life to form. All conjecture.
The evidence in this case is "an oxidized mineral form of the element molybdenum, which may have been crucial to the origin of life, could only have been available on the surface of Mars and not on Earth," Benner said.
Note the phrase "may have". This is his lynch pin argument and even he states it is conjecture. By the way, we have molybdenum. We use it in ball bearings, for one. It did not arrive later. I therefore believe that his statement "could only have been available on the surface of Mars and not on Earth" to be conjecture as well.
As Christians are the majority of the US population, so Christians have the most verbal morons on display. As the percentage of atheists has risen, so too has the visibility of atheistic morons become apparent.
Just as I hold that despicable Christian family the Westboro's in utter contempt, so too do I hold the morons comprising AA. Neither couching your language in biblical speech or psuedo-scientific jargon means jack to me. It's still vitriol.
People need to learn to think past 'the other'. Those who cannot need to be understood as shallow thinking bigots.
True. Democracy as practiced by the ancient Greeks would be hard to implement today, what with their not letting women vote and keeping slaves and all.
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Except, that's not what motivates them.
You're aware that the entire reason the Wright Brothers are famous is for inventing their guidance technology, right?
The first American rockets were entirely privately funded. You've conveniently leapt ahead to the space race.
Once the government became interested - as has been pointed out here before - the government ***made it illegal to use private rockets to reach space*** Got that? They were prevented - by government.
One - count 'em, *one* - nickel asteroid would yield all the nickel we'll need for decades, if not centuries.
You sir, are incorrect.
During a science class I attended around ten years ago conversation was on conservation. I mentioned methane and metal harvesting around Saturn and in the asteroid belt and a very serious young woman said "But you'll pollute the environment." I responded "What environment?" No answer of course, but she still saw mining in space as essentially "dirty" and not to be done.
Do not discount the damage enviro-weenies can do.
Me? I agree with you. I'd like to see as much material acquisition as possible come from space.
Bad, bad analogy. DeBeers deals in an artificial product - "Ohhh, pretty." This is why the fake market they've created exists. Rare earth metals are utilized by industry, like industrial diamonds. Industrial diamonds are cheap. They'll harvest the rare metals and we'll use them.
What ludicrous gall to demand a citation from someone after typing a moronic statement such as your opinion and offering no cite yourself.
"...but all of the pioneer inventors would (and some did) just flop back into anonymity if governments didn't, at some point, recognize significance of their inventions and stood behind them with orders and research grants."
An opinion that does not jibe with history.
He didn't say that - quite trying to dehumanize him Alinsky.
They invented it no more than the government did. Rocketry was not a product of governmental research or funding for said research. Some advances were made from such, but some advances were made without it as well.
"get to the water, build an aircraft, and learned how to fly."
All done by private enterprise.
Uh, no. Trade companies did a whole lot more than the governments. The governments mostly gave their blessing. Just look at history.
"Government does not."
Please tell me you were joking. Governmental profit comes in the form of ever expanding bureaucracies needing larger and larger funding.
They were all around *before* NASA. Your screed fails on that fact alone. Learn some real history - the kind with dates.
"Which will only happen after NASA makes it routine."
You mean like a rocket with lateral control and landing?
"Opening new frontiers and basic research is not."
History does not jibe with your assertion.
Retracted. IMDB's search actually didn't find it, but DogPile did.
No, he's not saying that. Thanks for the straw.
RTFA yourself. He doesn't say oxidized molybdenum doesn't exist on Earth (it does). Or, to quote The International Molybdenum Association in its Background Chemistry of Molybdenum (para Oxidation states)
"In its compounds molybdenum exhibits all oxidation states from -II to V1"
He states (with no support) that it couldn't have at that time and that Mars did and that further, it was necessary for life to form. All conjecture.
Note the phrase "may have". This is his lynch pin argument and even he states it is conjecture. By the way, we have molybdenum. We use it in ball bearings, for one. It did not arrive later. I therefore believe that his statement "could only have been available on the surface of Mars and not on Earth" to be conjecture as well.
All I could find on IMDB was Five Million Miles to Earth, with Ymir the Venusian monster by Ray Harryhousen.
It's conjecture, no more, and weak at that.
He wasn't disagreeing with the expounding of the hypothesis(sic), he was mocking. There's a difference.
Fantastical ideas with tenuous at best support deserve mockery.
Every group has them.
As Christians are the majority of the US population, so Christians have the most verbal morons on display. As the percentage of atheists has risen, so too has the visibility of atheistic morons become apparent.
Just as I hold that despicable Christian family the Westboro's in utter contempt, so too do I hold the morons comprising AA. Neither couching your language in biblical speech or psuedo-scientific jargon means jack to me. It's still vitriol.
People need to learn to think past 'the other'. Those who cannot need to be understood as shallow thinking bigots.
"There are no hard facts, in fact they keep changing, and the theory keep getting refined.".
Sounds like climate science, except for that last part.
Well writ. I damned near thought you serious.
True. Democracy as practiced by the ancient Greeks would be hard to implement today, what with their not letting women vote and keeping slaves and all.