If using an animation and sketch app and watching videos constitutes "computer literacy", then pretty much everyone is computer literate.
I'm pretty sure the article author would disagree, but then, I disagree with him and more agree with you.
If she knows the basics of generic program manipulation, she's literate. As in real literacy, it doesn't mean you enjoy Goethe, it means you can read. To carry that a step further, programming is reading Goethe in the original German.
And to go full SlashDot, you can learn to drive a car without a single accredited course, but the State only knows you can drive if you pass one. That's what this guy's getting at, being accredited in programming so we can *make sure* you know how to program. Piss on his authoritarian ass.
Absolutely nothing has pissed me off more in my life than having to take a computer basics class in order to finish my degree (Bio) after 35+ years in IT and with 3 more years experience in the field than the head of the department I talked to.
*That's* what he's promoting.
Still a little more pissed off about that than I remembered.
"In this case, it was more like theft because the Fed lost exclusive use of the software, something that can't be given back once it is in the wild. Piracy is completely different..."
Nope. Piracy is the loss of your right to distribute your material as you see fit because some numbnuts thinks his desires trump your copyright. Copyright is not about revenue. Once disbursed into the wild, it can't be called back either. More same than not.
"You've never lived in country where steel, brick or concrete houses were the norm have you?"
No, but we've seen the postcards. That's why we build like we do.
Seriously though, you never heard the phrases "red brick" or "brown stone"? Both refer to housing, even houses. My first house had a brick first floor and a friend of mine had one with the first floor of cut limestone. In Kansas City, those are called "gray stones". Get out more.
It's taste. I very much like modifying my dwellings. So I like wood framing because that's easily done. Not so concrete or brick. I've worked with all of the above.
As for durability? Aren't there some 7-800 year old wood frame houses in Britian? I know we have a number of two hundred plus year old ones here in the US. In good shape, too. That first house of mine I mentioned is a hundred and ten right now.
I'm sorry, but that didn't make sense to me. The point of copyright is to allow the creator control so as to make a living. That's the further encouragement. First time you starve, everyone understands that. Subsequent iterations should get progressively easier if your work is desirable.
"Would Alladin be the same movie without Robin Williams as the genie?"
No, it would probably be better. I'm sick of seeing and hearing Robin Williams every time I turn around. All he does is "Robin Williams". Every role. Minor variations.
All that sounds good, Sir Anonymous, but I'll point out a couple of things.
Your claim of growing corn, yada, yada - is worthless. I don't hold anecdote to the harsh level of non-value that some do, but an anecdote by an AC - worthless.
And you're not making the razor-witted point you think you are anyway, Sparky.... How many people will that 12,000 bushels of corn feed in one year?
Therein lies the difference betwixt thee and me. You're willing to malnourish hundreds of people to manufacture liquid fuel from food stocks. I'm not, regardless if it's a net energy gain. We have other methods for energy production than taking food from peoples mouths.
"A healthy and educated population wouldn't need to steal $10 worth of copper."
Sorry, but that's a very shallow idealization of the cause of theft. And, looking at the world at large and history, it doesn't hold water.
We currently live in the healthiest and best educated society to have existed (despite picayune quibbles) - and still - assholes steal copper to avoid legitimate work.
"How would YOU react if foreign invaders killed your brother and his innocent family just because they lived in the same apartment building as someone fighting against those foreign invaders?"
Well, the French on the coast during WWII understood that there would be civilian deaths during the invasion. They wanted the Germans gone enough to cooperate nonetheless
What I think you're doing, consciously or not, is to equate unknown deaths by bombing and accident with the purposeful killing of civilians. Most people don't conflate those things.
It's not a calling, it's a profession and you can learn it just like you can learn any other profession. Yes, you have to be intelligent enough to handle the concepts, but that's it and they aren't that hard.
I disagree and don't believe it's flamebait. There's no single definition of 'programmer'. What you listed actually goes well beyond programming, into analysis and design. I didn't contract myself out as a programmer, I contracted out as an analyst and with good monetary reason.
I don't recall seeing listings for 'coders', so since the entry position is called programmer, you pretty much have to equate the title to the bottom level work and then add qualifiers as you prove you can do more.
Do I think this is bleeding edge? No. It's being promoted to people in a way that lets them know that kind of knowledge is available though. That's somewhat new.
As for dumbasses applying for jobs they can't do, I've seen a shitload of CS holders who couldn't make a machine work either, so that's a push. It's not like businesses requiring competent staff are going to give this kind of course any credence.
Dude/dudette - using a common communist slogan to start your screed ain't that good an idea. That one in particular means you don't have a concern for innocents being trashed if it means your agenda is met.
"A while ago, corporations could only exist if it was proven that their existence was a benefit to the public."
Unless you can come up with a credible cite, that's bullshit.
"I personally do not..."
Ahhhhh. The old *I'm well off, but I care about the lesser man" polemic.
Your post has wound up contradicting itself. First, you say Disney will easily be replaced by other people doing what they do (a poor assumption). Then you point out that the vast bulk of people attempting the same thing produce not only a huge morass of things to wade through, but produce mostly dreck.
So, in essence, you've shown that people *will* care and miss Disney because they *won't* find something that well done or interesting.
People see Disney stuff not just because it's there, but because Disney has consistently produced stuff they like seeing. In short, you're wrong.
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If using an animation and sketch app and watching videos constitutes "computer literacy", then pretty much everyone is computer literate.
I'm pretty sure the article author would disagree, but then, I disagree with him and more agree with you.
If she knows the basics of generic program manipulation, she's literate. As in real literacy, it doesn't mean you enjoy Goethe, it means you can read. To carry that a step further, programming is reading Goethe in the original German.
And to go full SlashDot, you can learn to drive a car without a single accredited course, but the State only knows you can drive if you pass one. That's what this guy's getting at, being accredited in programming so we can *make sure* you know how to program. Piss on his authoritarian ass.
Absolutely nothing has pissed me off more in my life than having to take a computer basics class in order to finish my degree (Bio) after 35+ years in IT and with 3 more years experience in the field than the head of the department I talked to.
*That's* what he's promoting.
Still a little more pissed off about that than I remembered.
"If you can't code,..."
If he doesn't adjust the timing on his own car, he's blowing smoke out his ass in more ways than one.
"In this case, it was more like theft because the Fed lost exclusive use of the software, something that can't be given back once it is in the wild. Piracy is completely different..."
Nope. Piracy is the loss of your right to distribute your material as you see fit because some numbnuts thinks his desires trump your copyright. Copyright is not about revenue. Once disbursed into the wild, it can't be called back either. More same than not.
"You've never lived in country where steel, brick or concrete houses were the norm have you?"
No, but we've seen the postcards. That's why we build like we do.
Seriously though, you never heard the phrases "red brick" or "brown stone"? Both refer to housing, even houses. My first house had a brick first floor and a friend of mine had one with the first floor of cut limestone. In Kansas City, those are called "gray stones". Get out more.
It's taste. I very much like modifying my dwellings. So I like wood framing because that's easily done. Not so concrete or brick. I've worked with all of the above.
As for durability? Aren't there some 7-800 year old wood frame houses in Britian? I know we have a number of two hundred plus year old ones here in the US. In good shape, too. That first house of mine I mentioned is a hundred and ten right now.
I'm sorry, but that didn't make sense to me. The point of copyright is to allow the creator control so as to make a living. That's the further encouragement. First time you starve, everyone understands that. Subsequent iterations should get progressively easier if your work is desirable.
a community building activity
That is about the lamest rationale I believe I have ever heard.
"Would Alladin be the same movie without Robin Williams as the genie?"
No, it would probably be better. I'm sick of seeing and hearing Robin Williams every time I turn around. All he does is "Robin Williams". Every role. Minor variations.
The man's become a distraction.
"Do you believe that the only way science gets done is via experiment?"
Please detail a couple of alternative methods.
Excellent info. Thank you.
All that sounds good, Sir Anonymous, but I'll point out a couple of things.
Your claim of growing corn, yada, yada - is worthless. I don't hold anecdote to the harsh level of non-value that some do, but an anecdote by an AC - worthless.
And you're not making the razor-witted point you think you are anyway, Sparky.... How many people will that 12,000 bushels of corn feed in one year?
Therein lies the difference betwixt thee and me. You're willing to malnourish hundreds of people to manufacture liquid fuel from food stocks. I'm not, regardless if it's a net energy gain. We have other methods for energy production than taking food from peoples mouths.
"A healthy and educated population wouldn't need to steal $10 worth of copper."
Sorry, but that's a very shallow idealization of the cause of theft. And, looking at the world at large and history, it doesn't hold water.
We currently live in the healthiest and best educated society to have existed (despite picayune quibbles) - and still - assholes steal copper to avoid legitimate work.
Darwinian self-eximinationists don't read those types of newsletters anyway.
"...that have successful devices running cold fusion,..."
Please provide a cite. I know of not a single functioning cold fusion device. Not one.
"How would YOU react if foreign invaders killed your brother and his innocent family just because they lived in the same apartment building as someone fighting against those foreign invaders?"
Well, the French on the coast during WWII understood that there would be civilian deaths during the invasion. They wanted the Germans gone enough to cooperate nonetheless
What I think you're doing, consciously or not, is to equate unknown deaths by bombing and accident with the purposeful killing of civilians. Most people don't conflate those things.
What will cease to be is people using the phrase 99%ers as if it has any definition other than Marxist propaganda.
"No real OSs yet exist, just like no real usable telephone existed in 1912."
That is a nonsense statement on both counts.
"...unless I click an "advanced view" checkbox."
You understand you just asked for bloat.
It's not a calling, it's a profession and you can learn it just like you can learn any other profession. Yes, you have to be intelligent enough to handle the concepts, but that's it and they aren't that hard.
I disagree and don't believe it's flamebait. There's no single definition of 'programmer'. What you listed actually goes well beyond programming, into analysis and design. I didn't contract myself out as a programmer, I contracted out as an analyst and with good monetary reason.
I don't recall seeing listings for 'coders', so since the entry position is called programmer, you pretty much have to equate the title to the bottom level work and then add qualifiers as you prove you can do more.
Do I think this is bleeding edge? No. It's being promoted to people in a way that lets them know that kind of knowledge is available though. That's somewhat new.
As for dumbasses applying for jobs they can't do, I've seen a shitload of CS holders who couldn't make a machine work either, so that's a push. It's not like businesses requiring competent staff are going to give this kind of course any credence.
All you've accomplished is to anthropomorphized fire.
Fire actually does none of those things. Those things can happen to a fire. Big difference.
Please elaborate. What "great" influences did Melville wield?
Not quite like him putting the cameras up on his own property, is it?
Dude/dudette - using a common communist slogan to start your screed ain't that good an idea. That one in particular means you don't have a concern for innocents being trashed if it means your agenda is met.
..."
"A while ago, corporations could only exist if it was proven that their existence was a benefit to the public."
Unless you can come up with a credible cite, that's bullshit.
"I personally do not
Ahhhhh. The old *I'm well off, but I care about the lesser man" polemic.
Your post has wound up contradicting itself. First, you say Disney will easily be replaced by other people doing what they do (a poor assumption). Then you point out that the vast bulk of people attempting the same thing produce not only a huge morass of things to wade through, but produce mostly dreck.
So, in essence, you've shown that people *will* care and miss Disney because they *won't* find something that well done or interesting.
People see Disney stuff not just because it's there, but because Disney has consistently produced stuff they like seeing. In short, you're wrong.
How? Seriously. It's easy to presume they'll "survive better", but it might be informative to hear how you think they will. More than "maybe", anyway.