They're looking to justify ubiquitous surveillance and of course, they want to be able to say that you were going to harm them when they kicked your door in for downloading that britney MP3. The ninja masked thugs will then pump you full of 9mm lead with their government issue Heckler and Koch, silenced MP5's and will then claim your heart beat elevated the moment they breached the perimeter, and thus proved that you were up to no good. (The fact that you were startled awake by your front door exploding off its hinges will be inadmissable in court on grounds of national security.)
I spent my early childhood near there... and recall that where we were... cops could get beaten up if they screwed with the wrong person. But we had that same crap...
There was a saying "the walls have eyes and ears here." It meant, shut up, if you talk here, someone or something will give us away and we won't be talking to anyone again.
Hah, coming to America soon. Talk about not running far enough.
Actually most trained professionals generally maintain calm when preparing to kill someone.
Its only untrained schmucks like us out here in the "regular Joe Bloggs world" that start pushing lots of red stuff through our hearts when we're about to do something we're not accustomed to (on slashdot, that is equal possibilities, sex or killing... j/k). I'm pretty sure most of us slashdotters have only killed things in videogames and with a fly swatter.
I can guarantee there isn't one among us who would have the ability or training to remain calm while the ninja masked, body armored thug squad is romping through the house, searching for us with the heartbeat monitor... If you can maintain your cool while that is happening, then you should be operating your own assassin for hire business and stop posting on slashdot... you're wasting your time here:)
As for the rest of us... take deep breaths folks... we've already given them so much leeway to use when they screw us, why stop now?
Nah, most geeks I've known in school, kept saying "we want someone to do something about it". They kept going to rallies, listening to speakers and kept voting for Hillary or Al, or George. They clamored for change only because that's what the slogans said.
Me, I'm disillusioned with the political system, but those who still believe ought to get their asses in gear if they expect change.
Either run for office locally and change things locally, or keep dreaming nationally and watching the schmucks keep shafting ya.
I asked my parents the same question during my youth... in regards to the communists... "grandpa tried, but he got sold out by his neighbors who wanted his land, in the end nobody got the land, it was *collectivized*... but he still died."
As I found out a year later after asking questions... I was in America... gone from among the communists... for the time being. Guess we didn't go far enough, judging by what I see today:)
And I'm not talking about "overruning the guards" after you'd already given up your privately held arms during the 1938 gun control act. I recall that a lot of Jews were looking to "flee to Palestine" and were sold out by their own saviors, and turned back around. Those who tried to flee to the USA found a similar fate. Much of this isn't told in history class anymore, but the Jews that "died" were mostly sold out by their own leaders, same leaders who allowed their followers to be disarmed and encouraged them not to fight back, decisively.
You guys had that 1938 Enabling Act/Gun Control act, in Germany... and like good little sheeple you turned them in. I expect something a bit different in this country... the majority of mainstream christians will probably be no different than mainstream jews in 1938. They will bleat along with their version of the pacifist rabby, the sellout preachers in this case. However, there are those both on the "left" and "right" that aren't mainstreamers.
What you failed to ask your parents was "why didn't you have guns and food stashed aside and either fight back or get the hell out of there?"
As I've said before, this coming decade should be MOST interesting. We'll see if the sheeple syndrome catches on again, or if its resisted by enough to allow the bleaters to cull themselves from among us and leave the rest of us alone for once.
Actually I seem to recall that familiarity with arms at home was far more common in the 20's and 30's than it is today. The youth of today are performing ADMIRABLY against poorly armed, poorly trained and unarmored/starving civilians in the middle east. It is curious how well they would do against trained killers instead of desperate fanatics.
Frankly I am hoping it doesn't happen because I have friends in the military, and I don't see them very well off if things head south and real "enemies" show up, instead of the "fish in the barrel" scenario we're seeing in Iraq/Afghanistan right now.
Interesting. I know the USA has been hammering local businesses, and that most of the people here are looking at the WTO and other legislature as "anti business" (while it merely gives a fantastic loophole for offshoring various things and avoiding the heavy taxation placed on locals here.)
I wouldn't put too much weight in the wikis. Wiki should be a "guide" in your research, not an end all resource.
Most "estimate" charts don't include property taxes, social "health/wellfare" taxation, or other such "add on" stuff that is usually missed because it isn't subject to a visible deduction on a paycheck. If the individual is taxed to the limit of outright revolution, while the corporate taxes are low, that isn't exactly what I'd call a "free market" or "capitalist" society. Corporations have become more valuable than individual men and women when evaluating economies nowadays... Most individuals are content to be treated as livestock, but there are enough of us who refuse that treatment that they still have to tip toe around our "archaic sensibilities".
I hate to tell you this but Look, every single person in the world believes their taxes are unreasonably high. This is rarely true. is actually an incorrect statement.
Taxes are ALWAYS too high. Short of slaves, I know of no ancient group that paid as much as 50% of their yearly revenue (not income, which legally refers only to PROFIT, but actual revenue/recompense/actual pay, what you might term "pre tax income".)
The American revolution of 1776 occurred because of a tax hike to the insane tax percentage of 14% tax!!!
For 14% tax Americans (between 5 and 10% of the colonists) rebelled against their king. Today we struggle to survive under 30%+ "income tax" plus sales tax, fuel tax, food tax, ammo tax, tobacco tax, alcohol tax, vehicle tax, property tax, etc. Add them all up, instead of just looking at "income" tax. Your 10000.00 piece of crap toyota corolla racks you up 400 bucks worth of vehicle tax. Don't forget registrations, licenses, utility taxes, etc. By the time you're done, if you do an honest bit of math... you pay at LEAST 50% of your yearly remuneration to the government.
If you are a frugal and good shopper, I bet you could accomplish MORE with that money than the local, state and federal government can EVER pretend to offer. Their education system is sub par, their civil protection system (cops) has never been on time except to give citations... (I've been robbed in my own home some time ago), their medical system drugs kids who are merely being kids, and in general they are a merely looking for an excuse to provide themselves with a job at the expense of the "taxpayers" at large.
Sorry if my cynicism offends you, but I can think of many better ways to spend that cash than to pay for wars of aggression, murderous invasions, and for roads that take millions to fix a mere 10 or 20 pot holes over the course of 10 months (since I ran construction teams, I've seen the waste that goes into government contracting... those doing the work never see the millions being expended on "road maintenance" or "infrastructure maintenance". That money must go somewhere else.
What sort of idiot parent would *ever* let their kid be told that they should be mentally traumatized over anything?
Bingo! Fully agreed on that one. Its what I meant to say in my post. Thanks for putting it into crystal clear "your kids, your choice how to raise them, be it good or bad."
Its like the schools that "build self esteem" by banning kickball and tag. Boggles the mind, it does.
Yes, but in any free society, you can also pick on the fat guy.
Maybe if it happened, more fat guys would get in shape. I did it. Long story, but if a man wants to do something, nothing stops him. Same for the ladies.
On the other hand... who's the idiot who came up with the idea to teach our kids that seeing something will traumatize them? It is the fear of excelling that makes most people complacent. Afraid of blood? Take a class on first aid. Afraid of sharks? Go shark fishing. Afraid of guns? Take a rifle or pistol class. Afraid of freedom? Try it:) Challenging fears and beating them down is more liberating than all the fancy documents written by our ancestors. Hence why I love coming on here now and arguing in my free time.
That's why you nerds need to get in shape, learn to fight, physically.
You need to be able to tranmit 2700 foot per second (sorry my metric is rusty) lead packets, encapsulated in copper wrappers. You must have your own transmission hardware, and a steady supply of appropriate packets:)
Why do you think they're tip toeing in America? Lots of people fly those Gadsden flags, but MORE people can transmit at very long ranges:) And a remarkable number of them (especially out West and down South) have learned the lesson of the War between the States (Civil war to the rest of the world)... most of these southwestern types have the "appropriate transmission hardware".
Yeppers, but your grandparents probably both knew how to carry, maintain and USE Garands or Enfields... I strongly doubt the majority of the youth are that capable anymore.
I heard a proverb from my own friends of that WW2 age (quite old now)... They made it up to sing to the "Cops" song.
"Good men, good men, good men, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you. Will you come out with your hands over your head, or on the trigger of your gun?"
Malum in se --> Bad in and of itself. These are true crimes. Anyone who has them done against them will object to these... they have victims that can always be identified. These crimes can always be identified as the initiation of force against a victim of some sort. Even the dumping of chemicals into the water supply has human victims.
Examples of things that are bad in and of themselves... --rape (physical invasion), murder(deprivation of life), kidnapping(deprivation of freedom), extortion, fraud, robbery(deprivations of property), arson, torture.
Malum prohibitum --> Bad by prohibition/legislation. This is stuff that politicians have legislated illegal... they have nothing to do with wrong, or being bad, but merely with being against the agenda politicians support.
Examples of things that were banned by decree... --personal encryption, personal privacy, marijuana, hemp, freedom of association, freedom of speech (almost gone), freedom of movement (papers please), personal safety (such as victim disarmament laws / gun control, remember that ordinary Jews (not the Zionist bankers) were disarmed in 1938 in Germany by government decree and they gave up their arms!!)
Remember this the next time a politician sells you a "necessary" step... it generally means they need you to willingly surrender your natural rights. Next time you glorify the "Jewish victims" remember that they surrendered their arms and their lives by merely consenting and walking into those death camps. Fear or sheeple syndrome, something made them consent to walk in there instead of fighting to the death to stay, life and die free. Every animal fights for its life, yet humans surrender everything by mere request. Amazing species, I must say.
The Nazis were german socialists. The Italians were fascists, Spain at the time was Fascist, and 1900-1930 America was prone to glorifying fascists and pretty much anyone that opposed communism. Hence why whoever studies history will find that many newspapers and radio broadcasts gushed all over Hitler at the time. Course sometime later they did a remarkable "about face" and gushed socialism... prodded the populace to fight on England's side.
Cheers mate, 3 friends of mine from Sweden are no longer "swedish citizens"... they've repatriated to places where the total state theft... ahem... "taxation" is a bit less than 100%:)
I still had to sit back and contemplate how an entire population would take what happened in Sweden sitting down. Insane taxes, socialized everything, prohibited self defense, despite gang and racist violence towards white, blonde swedish girls... very worrisome that a Nordic population would so utterly surrender themselves to what is clear aggression, both by incomers and their own government.
Is it truly as bad as my friends have told me or is it the panacea of socialist heaven? (One of them moved to London, England and said it was an "improvement", and that really worried me.)
As one of those former Swedes said to me after moving out here... "we're tall, we're blonde, but stop thinking we're vikings". Too bad, I kinda liked the idea of her in chainmail and sallet.:P
To each his own. I prefer not to get uninvolved third parties into issues I can solve myself. You prefer to have third parties solve your problems. That's absolutely fine, you're among a 90% majority that expects someone else to solve their issues.
Also, you take my lack of compassion for the stupid and for those lacking foresight and misunderstand it for lack of "comprehension for subtleties".
Speaking of which, I've eaten and taken coffee in many places, yet I've never burned myself with coffee, or any other hot fluids, for that matter.
Question to ask: If you drink home made coffee, do you immediately, right off the coffee machine, pull the pot, pour a cup, and quaff it down? Why, or why not? Ever spill a cup on your toe? Ever complain that it was hot and sue the coffee machine maker for not keeping the temperature lower?? Why or why not?
I think there are many FINE reasons to sue many poor practitioners of everything, business, medicine, law, etc. The problem is that the most often applied "reasons" are the least appropriate ones.
Good reasons: --Getting food poisoning from McNuggets and nearly dying warrants a PERFECT reason to sue. --A surgeon leaving a scalpel in your belly after stitching you up, is a PERFECT reason to sue. --A lawyer failing to carry out his duties (failing to conduct a proper discovery process, which you uncover after losing the case) and resulting in financial damages to you is a perfect reason to sue...
Bad reasons: --Spilling a cup of coffee on your crotch and scalding yourself is something for which you should be laughed out of the courtroom. --Pouring gasoline into a fire and lighting yourself up is a poor reason to sue the gasoline or oil companies for "selling an unsafe product" or the gas can company for not putting a label on the can to let you know that pouring "flammable liquids on a flame can be dangerous". --Hammering on the back of a live bullet with a nail and having it go off hurting you or someone nearby is a remarkably stupid reason to sue an ammo company for "producing dangerous products". --Leaving the parking brake off and letting your car roll down hill is not a good reason to sue Ford for not labeling the parking brake as "pull up before getting out of car". --Lopping your leg off with a properly operating ax or chainsaw is a very miserable reason to sue a chainsaw or ax manufacturing company for not putting a label on the ax or chainsaw that "poor aim can result in loss of limb or life".
Yet all of these things HAVE happened and whether good ideas or not, successful or not, all have been used as propaganda by various arms of various groups seeking further funding from various special interests, fascist, socialist and otherwise.
PS - As to your comment about identifying rights ownership. You are 100% correct. But this material was not ambiguous as to its authorship, was it? Any idiot who spends any time on wikis can easily find out what license the content is under whether public domain / commons copyright / BSD / GPL 1-2-3, etc. Again the problem goes back to over reaching by government. Copyrights have been extended from books and physical works to just about every form of intellectual idea/property, they have been extended to near lifetimes and invite abuse due to the lockout power and market monopoly they provide on ideas. A far cry from original intent... but not unsurprising. The system itself is to blame for encouraging abuse. As for "original intent", there was a saying... "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Fairly obvious to you and me, and fairly obvious to a lawyer or a judge are two entirely different things.
For example, it was fairly obvious that "fresh brewed coffee" is HOT... yet MacDonalds lost its defense of the lawsuit where a client spilled hot coffee on herself and blamed it on MacDonalds for not labelling the cups with "caution: hot" signs. A clear cut case of "yep, ma'am you're just plain stupid, now get out of my court room"... instead, the opposite happened.
Cheers, I understand what you're referring to, but I generally defer to my older resources as well. I find that actually behaving responsibly instead of expecting modern "lawmakers" to save me, has in fact saved me a LOT of cash, and a lot of headaches.
Care to tell me that I'm better off butting heads with some idiot in court and paying a lawyer to save me 30 minutes of due diligence???
If something is preventable then why go through court to justify something, and damaging one's health through stress and heartache, when one can research what one is accepting/agreeing to, and simply saying "nope, not worth my cash"... unless one precisely WANTS to get to court to try to iron things out using the lawmakers to hammer something into a small piece of profit...
I only go to court when I have to... which is roughly never. Preventable things, in my case, are just that... prevented. Thanks though. You've made my stay on slashdot, yet again, enjoyable.
Then should not each individual submitter have saved a copy of his posts, copyrighted it (copylefted?) and kept a sealed / dated copy for his own records?
That's generally what most individuals trying to prove "copyright" or "original work" usually do, they seal up a copy of the original around the date they make the original public or before. Various methods are employed but this has not been a recent "invention" in how to prove a copyright or original work, patent or copyright.
All contracts and relationships work by the old contract law... the UCC was the codification for "lawful commerce", but that doesn't mean the UCC has created commerce or contractual agreements, accords and other forms of contracting. Those have always existed.
If you enter into any such contract, you are equally liable (to yourself, if nobody else) to verify what it is you are agreeing to, buying, borrowing or accepting. If you do not, all headaches entailed from possible fraud are YOUR problem. Period.
This is what I meant, and what I was hoping you folks would've gathered from my statement. Nice job latching onto a single term and taking it out of context.
Actually, the only thing a contract provides for, according to the old contract law which was later re-codified as the basis for the UCC... is simple.
If Offer==true && Acceptance==true then {fulfill conditions of accord} else {offer acceptable Remedy}
This was the main cause why you had to KNOW your business partners. You can ask them (whether they were good men or scumbags) to "honor" their bargains all day long, but it was YOUR duty to find out what you were offered.
I can offer you brand X crap, and tell you its better than brand Y crap, but technically, it is YOUR duty to find out if brand X crap fulfills YOUR needs or wants, instead of getting pissed off later that it came with a restrictive license. If you prefer the way brand Y crap fulfills your needs, then you should've been smart enough to know what you were negociating (or yes, on this side of the ocean, its "negotiating")... speaking and writing several languages means my spellcheck also doesn't catch all things as it should when using only English.
Forget that... did anyone notice that Wikia can smash this down in court on grounds that they were defrauded by the seller? After all, he must have lied to them about the license on the material in the product sold to them.
Of course seller here can hammer Wikia with a "you bought a bill of goods and didn't do your *due diligence* on the subject, and are thus to blame for buying what you can't sell".
Irony at its best, but then again, this is slashdot, I wonder how many of you can actually negociate contracts:)
You really didn't spot his outright sarcasm? I could've sworn it was dripping off his fangs...
They're looking to justify ubiquitous surveillance and of course, they want to be able to say that you were going to harm them when they kicked your door in for downloading that britney MP3. The ninja masked thugs will then pump you full of 9mm lead with their government issue Heckler and Koch, silenced MP5's and will then claim your heart beat elevated the moment they breached the perimeter, and thus proved that you were up to no good. (The fact that you were startled awake by your front door exploding off its hinges will be inadmissable in court on grounds of national security.)
I spent my early childhood near there... and recall that where we were... cops could get beaten up if they screwed with the wrong person. But we had that same crap...
There was a saying "the walls have eyes and ears here." It meant, shut up, if you talk here, someone or something will give us away and we won't be talking to anyone again.
Hah, coming to America soon. Talk about not running far enough.
Unless the machine comes up reading "God plugin not detected, unable to read female mind!"
Nooooo... its VIRGIN VIRGIN VIRGIN .... (24th time) VIRGIN SEX!
Actually most trained professionals generally maintain calm when preparing to kill someone.
:)
Its only untrained schmucks like us out here in the "regular Joe Bloggs world" that start pushing lots of red stuff through our hearts when we're about to do something we're not accustomed to (on slashdot, that is equal possibilities, sex or killing... j/k). I'm pretty sure most of us slashdotters have only killed things in videogames and with a fly swatter.
I can guarantee there isn't one among us who would have the ability or training to remain calm while the ninja masked, body armored thug squad is romping through the house, searching for us with the heartbeat monitor... If you can maintain your cool while that is happening, then you should be operating your own assassin for hire business and stop posting on slashdot... you're wasting your time here
As for the rest of us... take deep breaths folks... we've already given them so much leeway to use when they screw us, why stop now?
Nah, most geeks I've known in school, kept saying "we want someone to do something about it". They kept going to rallies, listening to speakers and kept voting for Hillary or Al, or George. They clamored for change only because that's what the slogans said.
Me, I'm disillusioned with the political system, but those who still believe ought to get their asses in gear if they expect change.
Either run for office locally and change things locally, or keep dreaming nationally and watching the schmucks keep shafting ya.
That's my ten cents on that issue.
I asked my parents the same question during my youth... in regards to the communists... "grandpa tried, but he got sold out by his neighbors who wanted his land, in the end nobody got the land, it was *collectivized*... but he still died."
:)
As I found out a year later after asking questions... I was in America... gone from among the communists... for the time being. Guess we didn't go far enough, judging by what I see today
And I'm not talking about "overruning the guards" after you'd already given up your privately held arms during the 1938 gun control act. I recall that a lot of Jews were looking to "flee to Palestine" and were sold out by their own saviors, and turned back around. Those who tried to flee to the USA found a similar fate. Much of this isn't told in history class anymore, but the Jews that "died" were mostly sold out by their own leaders, same leaders who allowed their followers to be disarmed and encouraged them not to fight back, decisively.
You guys had that 1938 Enabling Act/Gun Control act, in Germany... and like good little sheeple you turned them in. I expect something a bit different in this country... the majority of mainstream christians will probably be no different than mainstream jews in 1938. They will bleat along with their version of the pacifist rabby, the sellout preachers in this case. However, there are those both on the "left" and "right" that aren't mainstreamers.
What you failed to ask your parents was "why didn't you have guns and food stashed aside and either fight back or get the hell out of there?"
As I've said before, this coming decade should be MOST interesting. We'll see if the sheeple syndrome catches on again, or if its resisted by enough to allow the bleaters to cull themselves from among us and leave the rest of us alone for once.
Actually I seem to recall that familiarity with arms at home was far more common in the 20's and 30's than it is today. The youth of today are performing ADMIRABLY against poorly armed, poorly trained and unarmored/starving civilians in the middle east. It is curious how well they would do against trained killers instead of desperate fanatics.
Frankly I am hoping it doesn't happen because I have friends in the military, and I don't see them very well off if things head south and real "enemies" show up, instead of the "fish in the barrel" scenario we're seeing in Iraq/Afghanistan right now.
Interesting. I know the USA has been hammering local businesses, and that most of the people here are looking at the WTO and other legislature as "anti business" (while it merely gives a fantastic loophole for offshoring various things and avoiding the heavy taxation placed on locals here.)
I wouldn't put too much weight in the wikis. Wiki should be a "guide" in your research, not an end all resource.
Most "estimate" charts don't include property taxes, social "health/wellfare" taxation, or other such "add on" stuff that is usually missed because it isn't subject to a visible deduction on a paycheck. If the individual is taxed to the limit of outright revolution, while the corporate taxes are low, that isn't exactly what I'd call a "free market" or "capitalist" society. Corporations have become more valuable than individual men and women when evaluating economies nowadays... Most individuals are content to be treated as livestock, but there are enough of us who refuse that treatment that they still have to tip toe around our "archaic sensibilities".
I hate to tell you this but
Look, every single person in the world believes their taxes are unreasonably high. This is rarely true. is actually an incorrect statement.
Taxes are ALWAYS too high. Short of slaves, I know of no ancient group that paid as much as 50% of their yearly revenue (not income, which legally refers only to PROFIT, but actual revenue/recompense/actual pay, what you might term "pre tax income".)
The American revolution of 1776 occurred because of a tax hike to the insane tax percentage of 14% tax!!!
For 14% tax Americans (between 5 and 10% of the colonists) rebelled against their king. Today we struggle to survive under 30%+ "income tax" plus sales tax, fuel tax, food tax, ammo tax, tobacco tax, alcohol tax, vehicle tax, property tax, etc. Add them all up, instead of just looking at "income" tax. Your 10000.00 piece of crap toyota corolla racks you up 400 bucks worth of vehicle tax. Don't forget registrations, licenses, utility taxes, etc. By the time you're done, if you do an honest bit of math... you pay at LEAST 50% of your yearly remuneration to the government.
If you are a frugal and good shopper, I bet you could accomplish MORE with that money than the local, state and federal government can EVER pretend to offer. Their education system is sub par, their civil protection system (cops) has never been on time except to give citations... (I've been robbed in my own home some time ago), their medical system drugs kids who are merely being kids, and in general they are a merely looking for an excuse to provide themselves with a job at the expense of the "taxpayers" at large.
Sorry if my cynicism offends you, but I can think of many better ways to spend that cash than to pay for wars of aggression, murderous invasions, and for roads that take millions to fix a mere 10 or 20 pot holes over the course of 10 months (since I ran construction teams, I've seen the waste that goes into government contracting... those doing the work never see the millions being expended on "road maintenance" or "infrastructure maintenance". That money must go somewhere else.
What sort of idiot parent would *ever* let their kid be told that they should be mentally traumatized over anything?
Bingo! Fully agreed on that one. Its what I meant to say in my post. Thanks for putting it into crystal clear "your kids, your choice how to raise them, be it good or bad."
Its like the schools that "build self esteem" by banning kickball and tag. Boggles the mind, it does.
Yes, but in any free society, you can also pick on the fat guy.
:) Challenging fears and beating them down is more liberating than all the fancy documents written by our ancestors. Hence why I love coming on here now and arguing in my free time.
Maybe if it happened, more fat guys would get in shape. I did it. Long story, but if a man wants to do something, nothing stops him. Same for the ladies.
On the other hand... who's the idiot who came up with the idea to teach our kids that seeing something will traumatize them? It is the fear of excelling that makes most people complacent. Afraid of blood? Take a class on first aid. Afraid of sharks? Go shark fishing. Afraid of guns? Take a rifle or pistol class. Afraid of freedom? Try it
That's why you nerds need to get in shape, learn to fight, physically.
:)
:) And a remarkable number of them (especially out West and down South) have learned the lesson of the War between the States (Civil war to the rest of the world)... most of these southwestern types have the "appropriate transmission hardware".
You need to be able to tranmit 2700 foot per second (sorry my metric is rusty) lead packets, encapsulated in copper wrappers. You must have your own transmission hardware, and a steady supply of appropriate packets
Why do you think they're tip toeing in America? Lots of people fly those Gadsden flags, but MORE people can transmit at very long ranges
Yeppers, but your grandparents probably both knew how to carry, maintain and USE Garands or Enfields... I strongly doubt the majority of the youth are that capable anymore.
I heard a proverb from my own friends of that WW2 age (quite old now)... They made it up to sing to the "Cops" song.
"Good men, good men, good men, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you. Will you come out with your hands over your head, or on the trigger of your gun?"
There are two types of crimes.
Malum in se --> Bad in and of itself. These are true crimes. Anyone who has them done against them will object to these... they have victims that can always be identified. These crimes can always be identified as the initiation of force against a victim of some sort. Even the dumping of chemicals into the water supply has human victims.
Examples of things that are bad in and of themselves...
--rape (physical invasion), murder(deprivation of life), kidnapping(deprivation of freedom), extortion, fraud, robbery(deprivations of property), arson, torture.
Malum prohibitum --> Bad by prohibition/legislation. This is stuff that politicians have legislated illegal... they have nothing to do with wrong, or being bad, but merely with being against the agenda politicians support.
Examples of things that were banned by decree...
--personal encryption, personal privacy, marijuana, hemp, freedom of association, freedom of speech (almost gone), freedom of movement (papers please), personal safety (such as victim disarmament laws / gun control, remember that ordinary Jews (not the Zionist bankers) were disarmed in 1938 in Germany by government decree and they gave up their arms!!)
Remember this the next time a politician sells you a "necessary" step... it generally means they need you to willingly surrender your natural rights. Next time you glorify the "Jewish victims" remember that they surrendered their arms and their lives by merely consenting and walking into those death camps. Fear or sheeple syndrome, something made them consent to walk in there instead of fighting to the death to stay, life and die free. Every animal fights for its life, yet humans surrender everything by mere request. Amazing species, I must say.
You're right.
The Nazis were german socialists. The Italians were fascists, Spain at the time was Fascist, and 1900-1930 America was prone to glorifying fascists and pretty much anyone that opposed communism. Hence why whoever studies history will find that many newspapers and radio broadcasts gushed all over Hitler at the time. Course sometime later they did a remarkable "about face" and gushed socialism... prodded the populace to fight on England's side.
Cheers mate, 3 friends of mine from Sweden are no longer "swedish citizens"... they've repatriated to places where the total state theft... ahem... "taxation" is a bit less than 100% :)
:P
I still had to sit back and contemplate how an entire population would take what happened in Sweden sitting down. Insane taxes, socialized everything, prohibited self defense, despite gang and racist violence towards white, blonde swedish girls... very worrisome that a Nordic population would so utterly surrender themselves to what is clear aggression, both by incomers and their own government.
Is it truly as bad as my friends have told me or is it the panacea of socialist heaven? (One of them moved to London, England and said it was an "improvement", and that really worried me.)
As one of those former Swedes said to me after moving out here... "we're tall, we're blonde, but stop thinking we're vikings". Too bad, I kinda liked the idea of her in chainmail and sallet.
Actually, politicians respond to "someone should make a law about that", or "someone should do something about that".
The masses generally scream that "why doesn't someone do something about it"... whenever something is printed in a newspaper.
Most people with IT degrees aren't very "social" and rarely run for office, if ever.
To each his own. I prefer not to get uninvolved third parties into issues I can solve myself. You prefer to have third parties solve your problems. That's absolutely fine, you're among a 90% majority that expects someone else to solve their issues.
Also, you take my lack of compassion for the stupid and for those lacking foresight and misunderstand it for lack of "comprehension for subtleties".
Speaking of which, I've eaten and taken coffee in many places, yet I've never burned myself with coffee, or any other hot fluids, for that matter.
Question to ask: If you drink home made coffee, do you immediately, right off the coffee machine, pull the pot, pour a cup, and quaff it down? Why, or why not? Ever spill a cup on your toe? Ever complain that it was hot and sue the coffee machine maker for not keeping the temperature lower?? Why or why not?
I think there are many FINE reasons to sue many poor practitioners of everything, business, medicine, law, etc. The problem is that the most often applied "reasons" are the least appropriate ones.
Good reasons:
--Getting food poisoning from McNuggets and nearly dying warrants a PERFECT reason to sue.
--A surgeon leaving a scalpel in your belly after stitching you up, is a PERFECT reason to sue.
--A lawyer failing to carry out his duties (failing to conduct a proper discovery process, which you uncover after losing the case) and resulting in financial damages to you is a perfect reason to sue...
Bad reasons:
--Spilling a cup of coffee on your crotch and scalding yourself is something for which you should be laughed out of the courtroom.
--Pouring gasoline into a fire and lighting yourself up is a poor reason to sue the gasoline or oil companies for "selling an unsafe product" or the gas can company for not putting a label on the can to let you know that pouring "flammable liquids on a flame can be dangerous".
--Hammering on the back of a live bullet with a nail and having it go off hurting you or someone nearby is a remarkably stupid reason to sue an ammo company for "producing dangerous products".
--Leaving the parking brake off and letting your car roll down hill is not a good reason to sue Ford for not labeling the parking brake as "pull up before getting out of car".
--Lopping your leg off with a properly operating ax or chainsaw is a very miserable reason to sue a chainsaw or ax manufacturing company for not putting a label on the ax or chainsaw that "poor aim can result in loss of limb or life".
Yet all of these things HAVE happened and whether good ideas or not, successful or not, all have been used as propaganda by various arms of various groups seeking further funding from various special interests, fascist, socialist and otherwise.
PS - As to your comment about identifying rights ownership. You are 100% correct. But this material was not ambiguous as to its authorship, was it? Any idiot who spends any time on wikis can easily find out what license the content is under whether public domain / commons copyright / BSD / GPL 1-2-3, etc. Again the problem goes back to over reaching by government. Copyrights have been extended from books and physical works to just about every form of intellectual idea/property, they have been extended to near lifetimes and invite abuse due to the lockout power and market monopoly they provide on ideas. A far cry from original intent... but not unsurprising. The system itself is to blame for encouraging abuse. As for "original intent", there was a saying... "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Fairly obvious to you and me, and fairly obvious to a lawyer or a judge are two entirely different things.
For example, it was fairly obvious that "fresh brewed coffee" is HOT... yet MacDonalds lost its defense of the lawsuit where a client spilled hot coffee on herself and blamed it on MacDonalds for not labelling the cups with "caution: hot" signs. A clear cut case of "yep, ma'am you're just plain stupid, now get out of my court room"... instead, the opposite happened.
Cheers, I understand what you're referring to, but I generally defer to my older resources as well. I find that actually behaving responsibly instead of expecting modern "lawmakers" to save me, has in fact saved me a LOT of cash, and a lot of headaches.
Care to tell me that I'm better off butting heads with some idiot in court and paying a lawyer to save me 30 minutes of due diligence???
If something is preventable then why go through court to justify something, and damaging one's health through stress and heartache, when one can research what one is accepting/agreeing to, and simply saying "nope, not worth my cash"... unless one precisely WANTS to get to court to try to iron things out using the lawmakers to hammer something into a small piece of profit...
I only go to court when I have to... which is roughly never. Preventable things, in my case, are just that... prevented. Thanks though. You've made my stay on slashdot, yet again, enjoyable.
Then should not each individual submitter have saved a copy of his posts, copyrighted it (copylefted?) and kept a sealed / dated copy for his own records?
That's generally what most individuals trying to prove "copyright" or "original work" usually do, they seal up a copy of the original around the date they make the original public or before. Various methods are employed but this has not been a recent "invention" in how to prove a copyright or original work, patent or copyright.
All contracts and relationships work by the old contract law... the UCC was the codification for "lawful commerce", but that doesn't mean the UCC has created commerce or contractual agreements, accords and other forms of contracting. Those have always existed.
If you enter into any such contract, you are equally liable (to yourself, if nobody else) to verify what it is you are agreeing to, buying, borrowing or accepting. If you do not, all headaches entailed from possible fraud are YOUR problem. Period.
This is what I meant, and what I was hoping you folks would've gathered from my statement. Nice job latching onto a single term and taking it out of context.
Actually, the only thing a contract provides for, according to the old contract law which was later re-codified as the basis for the UCC... is simple.
If Offer==true && Acceptance==true then {fulfill conditions of accord} else {offer acceptable Remedy}
This was the main cause why you had to KNOW your business partners. You can ask them (whether they were good men or scumbags) to "honor" their bargains all day long, but it was YOUR duty to find out what you were offered.
I can offer you brand X crap, and tell you its better than brand Y crap, but technically, it is YOUR duty to find out if brand X crap fulfills YOUR needs or wants, instead of getting pissed off later that it came with a restrictive license. If you prefer the way brand Y crap fulfills your needs, then you should've been smart enough to know what you were negociating (or yes, on this side of the ocean, its "negotiating")... speaking and writing several languages means my spellcheck also doesn't catch all things as it should when using only English.
Forget that... did anyone notice that Wikia can smash this down in court on grounds that they were defrauded by the seller? After all, he must have lied to them about the license on the material in the product sold to them.
:)
Of course seller here can hammer Wikia with a "you bought a bill of goods and didn't do your *due diligence* on the subject, and are thus to blame for buying what you can't sell".
Irony at its best, but then again, this is slashdot, I wonder how many of you can actually negociate contracts