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  1. Poor little H-1B loving Mamma's Boy... on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Don't brag about being an American - after giving away who knows how many jobs to foreign workers - and call ME a fool.

    How patriotic can it be to support foreign workers at a time like this. My nephew is in Iraq and he wants to become a software engineer. But he sees that new grads aren't getting hired because of unpatriotic IT managers such as yourself.

  2. Threat by H-1B visa workers at nuke plant on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    It still amazes me. We have a bigger threat than nuclear missiles in Cuba - right in our own backyard - and nobody wants to do anything about it.

    Did you know that APS (Palo Verde Nuclear plant in Phoenix) employs dozens of foreign guest workers under the H-1B visa program? Theses foreigners from less-than-friendly countries like China, India, and Pakistan have been given access to the computer networks that control the Palo Verde nuclear plant. Our leaders have given the backdoor passwords to foreign nationals who are here on visas similar to those used by the 09/11 terrorists.

    In today's highly technical world it is naïve to think that terrorism will always be wrought by gun toting, knife wielding terrorists in a violent fashion. Our computer networks are extremely vulnerable. The Palo Verde nuclear plant is fully dependent on computers in every aspect.

    In Pakistan and India, where most of the H-1B workers come from, upwards of 90 percent of the population despise America and the war with Iraq. Even the India Times, which is very pro-American, conservatively reports that 87 percent oppose Bush and America. Both India and China have now joined in condemning our military actions.

    Do you think these foreign nonimmigrant workers might be more willing to accept a bribe from Al Qaeda? Foreign visa holders have worked on virtually all of our military computer systems via companies like Lockheed/Martin, Boeing, and others. Often work is done by foreign computer programmers that the defense contractor doesn't know about - via third party contracts. Foreign cyber terrorists have had ample opportunity to infect our military guidance and/or peripheral software and hardware. The lives of our sons and daughters in Iraq depend on these systems. Does it bother you that our leaders have allowed foreigners to work on these systems - often with nary a background check?

    Most of you realize that computers are very complicated and susceptible to viruses and bugs. When a foreign programmer is given full access to a computer network, the potential harm increases a hundred fold. He/she no longer needs to hack into the system since they are given the backdoor passwords. This is kind of like giving the key to the hen house to the fox. This open access affords them unlimited resources and time to implant encrypted time bombs. These bombs would be virtually impossible to detect within the menagerie of the Windows operating systems. When they "explode" the cyber terrorist could be safe and sound back in his/her home country. They wouldn't even have to risk their life to kill thousands of Americans.

  3. Vulgar H-1B Coward hates Americans on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Evidently you're another H-1B worker posting as an Anonymous Coward.

    So you hate Americans so much that you consider the war in Iraq a "cakewalk" for our sons and daughters??!!

    Talk about a redneck!!!

    Obviously it is high time we expelled ALL foreign guest workers - ASAP. Especially those who are limited to a foul, un-Christian, four-letter-word vocabulary.

  4. Faulty Logic re US Payroll Taxes & H-1B / L-1 on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    My logic isn't faulty at all, but you're missing the entire point. This is not about tax revenue at all; it's about personal income for those in power. If they can make more money by pandering to big corporations, then they don't really care about the lack of payroll taxes and the resulting deficits.

    Obviously you don't understand our democratic system. Our politicians, as well as corporate leaders, will eventually care about resulting deficits.

    You should be careful not to let your anger and hatred cloud your view of others. I can't imagine what made you think I was an H1B from my post; it should have been obvious that it was a complete slam against the rich politicians in power showing how they'd sell out the people they serve so they can become richer.

    My family is at financial risk as well as at risk from war. I've got plenty of reason for my anger. Your blatant H-1B bias combined with an antiestablishment undertone (rich politicians in power), along with atrocious grammar, betrayed your foreign origins. Are you an H-1B? If so, from where?

    Perhaps these numbers will help explain why our rich politicians in power can't ignore payroll tax revenue...

    Let's see, if there are roughly 1 million H-1B and L-1 workers (there are actually more) and only half of them avoid payroll taxes, including FICA, Medicare, FUTA, State and Local, etc., let's do the math. We will assume that they have displaced American technicians earning an average of only $75k per year.The combined payroll tax percentages for a taxpayer in this bracket would roughly be as follows:

    Federal: 20 percent
    FICA: 15 percent (remember the matching contribution by the employer - which is also lost)
    Medicare (included in FICA percentage)
    State 6 percent (this is low for states like California)
    FUTA 2 percent (the employer pays this one too - but it will also be lost)
    Local City/County 1 percent (once again, this is low for some areas)

    Combined Payroll Tax percentage = 44 percent

    Please remember that much of this burden is paid for by the employer - which has a lot to do with why they hate American Payroll taxes and love foreign employees.

    Now let's calculate:
    $75,000 x .44 = $33,000 in lost annual payroll tax revenue per displaced American taxpayer

    500,000 x $33,000 = $16.5 BILLION in lost payroll tax revenue PER YEAR!!!

    Yes, it's BILLIONS in lost tax revenue! Is it no wonder that our governments are running deficits at every level?
    So any American that ignores this situation is either very mathematically challenged...or a complete buffoon.

  5. My Bad. I meant "uninformed" Americans on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    It was late. I'm a an American myself - maybe not so well educated either (only a BSCS).

    Actually I pretty much agree with the other comment, and I meant to use the phrase "uninformed Americans" because it really is amazing how many of US believe that upper-caste Hindus are Blacks. This is no more correct than calling dark brown skinned Latinos "Blacks". I'm also surprised at how few Americans realize there is an upper-caste apartheid minority in control of India, with class lines drawn by race and religion. The antithesis of our own constitution.

    THANK YOU for printing the education statistics. This proves my point perfectly. Minorities (lower-caste citizens) and women are treated like dirt in India - not much differently than the Taliban; and actually worse than countries like Iraq and Iran.

  6. French-Loving Canadian hypocrites on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Smug words coming from a comfy Canadian whose own country protects it's "labour force" much more staunchly than America.

    Can I waltz into Canada to steal a job at any old time on something like a TN visa? Hell no!

    And now you French-lovering Canadians don't even have to send your sons and daughters to war. Our sons and daughters are risking their lives for your safety too!

  7. $16.5 BILLION in lost payroll taxes ! on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    To be honest I don't really care that much about the topic. Life goes on
    if jobs are won or lost.


    Ah, to hear the words of a caring fellow American (I assume). Let's see though,
    if there are roughly 1 million H-1B and L-1 workers (there are actually more)
    and only half of them avoid payroll taxes, including FICA, Medicare, FUTA, State
    and Local, etc., let's do the math. We will assume that they have displaced
    American technicians earning an average of only $75k per year.

    The combined payroll tax percentages for a taxpayer in this bracket would roughly
    be as follows:

    Federal: 20 percent

    FICA: 15 percent (remember the matching contribution by the employer - which
    is also lost)

    Medicare (included in FICA percentage)

    State 6 percent (this is low for states like California)

    FUTA 2 percent (the employer pays this one too - but it will also be lost)

    Local City/County 1 percent (once again, this is low for some areas)

    Combined Payroll Tax percentage = 44 percent

    Please remember that much of this burden is paid for by the employer - which
    has a lot to do with why they hate American Payroll taxes and love foreign employees.

    Now let's calculate:

    $75,000 x .44 = $33,000 in lost annual payroll tax revenue per displaced American
    taxpayer

    500,000 x $33,000 = $16.5 BILLION in lost payroll tax revenue PER YEAR !!!
    Yes, it's BILLIONS in lost tax revenue!
    Is it no wonder that our governments
    are running deficits at every level?

    So any American that ignores this situation is either very mathematically challenged
    or a complete buffoon.


    I haven't seen Iraqi military attacking the land I happen to be occupying,
    so no one is defending me from anything.

    Talk about an unpatriotic attitude as our sons and daughters march into
    harm's way. Evidently 09/11 was just another ho-hum day for you.

  8. Great Point! Let's do it before we're all broke. on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Boycotts are one of our only remaining weapons in the battle for the welfare of our families and friends - some of whom now have relatives at war in Iraq.

    There are many companies to boycott which have shown preference to hiring workers from less-than-friendly nations over skilled Americans:

    American Express
    Bank of India...er, I mean America
    Motorola
    Hewlett Packard
    Intel
    Microsoft
    IBM

    Heck, we'd have to boycott darn near everything. BUT, if we target just one company at a time we might have an impact. Some of these companies are worse than others. I threw away all of my American Express cards. Regardless of their preference for off shore and H-1B workers, I don't like the thought of having foreign nationals looking at my balances and personal information. They could easily steal my identity (and money!) and the FBI and local law enforcement couldn't do a thing about it. (I sure saved myself a bundle in annual service charges too.)

    Just say "NO" to products from companies who are exploiting foreign workers at the expense of American taxpayers' jobs!

  9. Re:Why all of the hoopla over H1-B? on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    For such a superior worker you sure failed to do any research regarding this topic.

    Your patronizing dribble reflects your extreme bias. Would you feel bad about taking that American's job if his sons were going to Iraq to defend your sorry ass?

    Your statement about the EU really shows your ignorance. If you would read the news you would see that Germany is taking measures to REDUCE the number of guest workers from India and elsewhere.

    Once again, we have a shining example of an inferior foreign mind taking jobs from Americans.

  10. Re:What is dismaying... on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1
    Gosh, I hope your programming logic isn't as faulty as your economic logic.

    A) Companies use cheap H1Bs. Result 1: higher short-term profits for the companies. For a Republican, this is good because their a big shareholder in the company, so they can make money here. Result 2: less tax revenue. Republicans want to downsize government anyway (except for defense), and regardless of what they'd like to spend taxpayer money on, #1 is still a higher priority.

    Here you are completely off topic. We are talking about tax revenue - not personal income. Please remember that most of our tax revenue comes from payroll tax - not from capital gains tax. And, most Republicans are not greedy enough to want to downsize government to the point where no payroll tax revenue is necessary.

    In case you hadn't noticed, both our federal and state budgets are now running deficits.

    B) Companies pay higher wages. Result 1: lower short-term profits. For Republicans, who are shareholders in these companies, this is a bad thing. Result 2: companies pay less in bribes. A bad thing for any politician.

    Once again, please don't avoid the topic of tax revenue. Higher wages result in additional payroll tax revenue. Period. Your ignorance of payroll taxes is making me wonder whether you are even paying payroll taxes here. Could you be one of those slickster H-1Bs who is living here on a tax-free expense per diem? Have you ever seen a W2?

    At least you are correct when you refer to campaign contributions from corporations as "bribes". Quite a liberal slip for a fellow trying to pander to conservative Republicans.

    Yes, the self-absorbed Republicans always prefer profits over the well being of their fellow citizens - not unlike upper-caste Hindus. Thankfully not all Republicans are self-absorbed. But, the tax problems are about to implode on us. We now have deficits at every level - federal, state, county, and city. This is something that no politician in America can ignore.

  11. H-1B is a huge threat to national security on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    As an experienced Oracle DBA and programmer I can tell you that the threat posed by foreign H-1B visa workers and foreign off shore workers is huge.

    This is just as dangerous as missiles in Cuba - but since there are no simplistic black-and-white aerial photos our dumbfounded leaders just can't comprehend it.

    I was a contractor at Lockheed Martin just before 09/11 and they had all kinds of foreign contractors. They didn't do any background checks on them. NOTHING. They didn't even have to take a drug test. (Boy, did that ever tick off the LM employees!)

    They could have planted all kinds of encrypted time bombs in guidance systems and what not. Even NASA gives their backdoor passwords to hundreds of foreign nationals. This often happens through third-party subcontracts that they don't even pay attention to. Now it seems that dozens of foreign visa workers were involved with the recent shuttle disaster.

    Imagine if air traffic control systems had simultaneous cyber-attacks? It could make 09/11 seem small in comparison.

    What about power grids? Banking systems? Hospitals? Nuclear plants? EVERYTHING IN OUR NATION IS DEPENDENT ON COMPUTERS!! They all use the same Windows operating systems, which is a hacker's dream come true with it's poorly secured registry and it's plethora of easily hacked dlls. Gee, I didn't even mention its vulnerability to ActiveX objects and COM modules.

    You would be surprised how poorly secured many of our networks and databases are. At Lockheed/Martin the administrators even failed to alter the vendor-supplied default passwords for Oracle databases??!! I also worked at a state government office that was even worse! You could remotely hack into their Oracle database via ODBC - even without a password! (Their Lead Oracle DBA was an H-1B from India. So much for superior tallent.)

    Please take a look at this link. You can read how much the people of India hate us and our war on Iraq.

    http://india_resource.tripod.com/oppositioniraqw ar .html

    Are these the people that you want programming the military and aerospace systems that your son's and dauther's lives depend on? Do you think an Indian off shore programmer, with this hateful attitude towards America, would think twice about taking a $100,000 bribe from Al Quada?

    And what about all of the disgruntled American techs? They have the backdoor passwords too. If just one of us were to snap it could get much worse than somebody "going postal" with a 9mm.

    But saving a couple bucks an hour by screwing fellow Americans out of their jobs is just more important to our corporate elite than national security.

    It will come back to haunt them. It is only a matter of time.

  12. Saddam-loving French Canadians on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Ooo. Another supporter of the racist apartheid regime in India. You are supporting racism when you support upper-caste Indians - which is what most of the H-1Bs are.

    I bets ya'll good ole boys in Canada don't want nun of us low class Americans workin' for ya - even though we saved your pussy asses in WWI and WWII.

    You're probably just a sour French-Canadian. Go kiss Saddam's butt with your Frenchie pals.

  13. Who are the real RACISTS? on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    You are the ultimate in "racist biggot pigshits" if you are defending the largest remaining apartheid regime in the world.

    You're such a petty little chicken shit that you have to post as a COWARD. You're probably just an upper-caste H-1B who can't wait to get back to India and legally flog his lower-caste servants.

  14. Americans misunderstand true apartheid on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Please show me where these "international standards" on skin coloration exist. I'm really curious.

    You are so typical of uneducated Americans. You don't understand the intricacies of the Indian caste system. It isn't solely based on skin tone - there are complex layers of classism that loosely follow skin tones - not unlike the apartheid system in South Africa with it's "Blacks" and "Coloreds". These words mean the same thing to Americans - but they denoted a wholely seperate caste class under their apartheid system.

    So obviously there is no "international standard" regarding skin tone terminology.

    Lower-caste Dalits (Untouchables) in India are decendents of negroid Africans that migrated there centuries ago. They generally are extremely dark skinned and have typical negroid features. They are African-Indians just as Blacks in America are African-American. The only difference is that it happened so long ago (millenia) that skin tones have mixed despite rigid class separation. The Hindus are decendents of ancient light-skinned arian tribes from the North.

    Please ask your Hindu friends how many Dalits (African-Indian "Untouchables") are adimitted at IIT? How many are H-1Bs? Then ask them if they would mind sharing a cubicle with an "Untouchable".

    And, I double-dog dare you to call them Blacks.

  15. Upper Caste Hindus don't care about starving kids on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Upper caste Hindus don't give a rat's ass about starving, malnourished, lower-caste children.

    Other Asian H-1B countries aren't much better.

    We are rewarding the most racist, selfish class of workers in the world with H-1B visas.

  16. Upper-caste Hindus are the real RACISTS!! on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Stop playing that phony racism card. I'm a Hispanic-American and Indian H-1Bs treated me like lower-caste dirt.

    The majority of H-1Bs are racist upper-caste Hindu males from India. India's apartheid regime is worse than South Africa's was.

    Other H-1B countries aren't much better. Almost all of them foster some form of racial, sexual, or religious intolerance that is illegal in the US.

    Evidently you believe in preference based on race, religion, and sex - which is exactly what the H-1B program does.

    (You moderators otta think long and hard about this one before you tag this note with a low score. It will bely your own views on racism, sexism, and religious intolerance. Does SLASHDOT support discrimination against African-American techs? Labor statistics already prove that they have been disproportionately displaced by H-1Bs.)

  17. Indian H-1Bs hail from racist regime on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Almost all H-1Bs are upper-caste Hindus from the most racist and sexist apartheid regime in the world.

    No wonder IIT does so well. Common Indians will never be admitted - especially lower-caste "untouchables". Yes, upper-caste Hindus hate very dark skinned African-Indians so much that they consdider them "untouchables".

    The NAACP already knows that SUN and other heavily H-1B companies in IT have terrible records for hiring African Americans.

    Lower-caste women are treated like dirt in India. Actually all women are treated like dirt. They can be stoned if they don't submit to arranged marriages.

    So the H-1B program is rewarding racists and sexists.

  18. Of course you don't know their net pay (duh!) on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Mr. BS:
    The H-1Bs that you have been so gleefully giving my job to are probably not being paid anywhere near what your American workers are paid.

    Just like all the cheap labor lusting IT managers, you just don't get it. All you see is the GROSS rate charged by your local IT pimp service. You don't see the paltry net rates paid to H-1B subcontractors.

    But you don't care about them just like you don't care about fellow Americans like myself. All you care about is your own greedy little pocket and your own little budget variances. God help our sons and daughters in Iraq if they all had attitudes like yours!

  19. Dear Mamma's Boy on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Any H-1B earning more than $50k right now is as doomed as the American IT workers. I was on an ASP project and the project manager bragged about getting off shore programmers to code ASP pages for $7 per hour - just before he canned us all. You see, the H-1Bs have artificial salary protection right now. The employer doesn't dare cut his/her salary while still under sponsorship. So the H-1Bs even have wage protection above-and-beyond American workers!! I'm so ticked right now I could strangle your scrawny unpatriotic pencil neck. Especially if you're one of those upper-caste apartheid racists from India!!

  20. BREAKING NEWS: SUN MIGHT DIE AFTERALL! on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    H-1B and JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER: www.ZaZona.com

    Here is another article that discusses the class-action lawsuit against Sun Microsystems. As many as 2,400 ex-Sun workers may be involved so
    this is a huge lawsuit. Considering the size of this lawsuit you would think that it would be all over the California newspapers, but that's
    not the case. So far the newspapers are keeping the lid on this story. Perhaps they have some Sun stock to dump first.

    There is a sweet irony in what is happening because that awful "60 Minutes" story on Bombay University (IIT) will be used in the lawsuit.
    View this excerpt from "60 Minutes" and you will see what I mean:
    LESLEY STAHL:
    Vinod Khosla got into IIT about 30 years ago. After graduating, he came to the U.S., co-founded Sun Microsystems, and became one of Silicon Valley's most important venture capitalists. He's one of thousands of
    IIT graduates who've made it big in the U.S.

    How significant would you say the impact of IIT graduates has been on the American technology revolution?

    VINOD KHOSLA:
    It's far greater than most people realize. Microsoft, Intel, PC's - Sun Microsystems - you name it, I can't imagine a major area where Indian IIT engineers haven't played a leading role.

    LESLEY STAHL: Leading role?

    VINOD KHOSLA:
    A leading role. And of course, the American consumer and the American business in the end is the beneficiary of that.

    LESLEY STAHL:
    It isn't just high tech; the head of the giant consulting firm McKinsey & Company is an IIT grad, so is the vice-chairman of Citigroup, and the former CEO of US Airways. Fortune 500 head hunters are always on the lookout for that IIT degree.

    VINOD KHOSLA:
    They are favored over almost anybody else. If you are a Wasp walking in for a job, you wouldn't have as much pre-assigned credibility as you do if you're an engineer from IIT.

    LESLEY STAHL:
    Ninety percent of IIT students are male, and the young men we met in Bombay know they're hot commodities. The American companies love the kids from IIT.

    ****************
    In that interview Khosla flat out admits that Sun prefers Indians from IIT, and of course most IIT students in this male dominated society are
    almost exclusively young men. Lesley Stahl adored Khosla too much to question his bigotry or arrogance. His racist comments about WASPS
    would have caused an uproar if they were made about any other minority group, and it's puzzling why the National Organization for Women isn't all over Stahl for that statement on how those IIT males are hot commodities.

    Vinod and his "frat girl" interviewer Lesley Stahlor, probably never imagined that this interview would be cannon fodder for the lawyer
    handling the lawsuit. During Guy Santiglia's court hearing Sun totally denied that they preferred H-1Bs, but they admitted that they
    understand that if they did, it would amount to discrimination. Here is a choice quote:
    Sun spokesperson Diane Carlini said the company didn't take national origin, visa status or salary into account in cutting its work force from about 42,000 to 35,000 beginning about 18 months ago. To have considered national origin or visa status would have amounted to discrimination, she said.

    Carlini was referring to Guy Santiglia's complaint in the article below when she said that Sun has been cleared of similar charges that its H-1B practices violated labor laws. "It seems similar to what we've seen in the past where we have been cleared." There is one thing that isn't similar, this class-action was filed by a very skilled attorney by the name of James Caputo. You can bet that Carlini will be working overtime on her next bit of spin doctoring because this Caputo will
    have Sun sweating.

    Obviously Sun has a policy of preferring IIT grads because they are Indian. If they were truly superior students this might be justifiable.

  21. VERY GOOD POINT! TIME FOR BASTILLE DAY on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    You have a very good point about the relative unfairness of globalization. Hopefully this won't get lost in the shuffle.

    Until we can easily obtain cheap products from India, and other H-1B countries, the program isn't fair at all.

    This is not the "fair and equal treatment" I expect from my government.

    IT'S TIME FOR A NEW-ERA BASTILLE DAY!!

  22. Sun Founder shoots own foot on 60 Minutes !! on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    H-1B and JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER: www.ZaZona.com

    Here is another article that discusses the class-action lawsuit against Sun Microsystems. As many as 2,400 ex-Sun workers may be involved so
    this is a huge lawsuit. Considering the size of this lawsuit you would think that it would be all over the California newspapers, but that's
    not the case. So far the newspapers are keeping the lid on this story. Perhaps they have some Sun stock to dump first.

    There is a sweet irony in what is happening because that awful "60 Minutes" story on Bombay University (IIT) will be used in the lawsuit.
    View this excerpt from "60 Minutes" and you will see what I mean:
    LESLEY STAHL:
    Vinod Khosla got into IIT about 30 years ago. After graduating, he came to the U.S., co-founded Sun Microsystems, and became one of Silicon Valley's most important venture capitalists. He's one of thousands of
    IIT graduates who've made it big in the U.S.

    How significant would you say the impact of IIT graduates has been on the American technology revolution?

    VINOD KHOSLA:
    It's far greater than most people realize. Microsoft, Intel, PC's - Sun
    Microsystems - you name it, I can't imagine a major area where Indian
    IIT engineers haven't played a leading role.

    LESLEY STAHL: Leading role?

    VINOD KHOSLA:
    A leading role. And of course, the American consumer and the American business in the end is the beneficiary of that.

    LESLEY STAHL:
    It isn't just high tech; the head of the giant consulting firm McKinsey & Company is an IIT grad, so is the vice-chairman of Citigroup, and the former CEO of US Airways. Fortune 500 head hunters are always on the lookout for that IIT degree.

    VINOD KHOSLA:
    They are favored over almost anybody else. If you are a Wasp walking in for a job, you wouldn't have as much pre-assigned credibility as you do if you're an engineer from IIT.

    LESLEY STAHL:
    Ninety percent of IIT students are male, and the young men we met in Bombay know they're hot commodities. The American companies love the
    kids from IIT.

    ****************
    In that interview Khosla flat out admits that Sun prefers Indians from IIT, and of course most IIT students in this male dominated society are
    almost exclusively young men. Lesley Stahl adored Khosla too much to question his bigotry or arrogance. His racist comments about WASPS
    would have caused an uproar if they were made about any other minority group, and it's puzzling why the National Organization for Women isn't all over Stahl for that statement on how those IIT males are hot
    commodities.

    Vinod and his "frat girl" interviewer Lesley Stahlor, probably never imagined that this interview would be cannon fodder for the lawyer
    handling the lawsuit. During Guy Santiglia's court hearing Sun totally denied that they preferred H-1Bs, but they admitted that they
    understand that if they did, it would amount to discrimination. Here is a choice quote:
    Sun spokesperson Diane Carlini said the company didn't take national origin, visa status or salary into account in cutting its work force from about 42,000 to 35,000 beginning about 18 months ago. To have considered national origin or visa status would have amounted to discrimination, she said.

    Carlini was referring to Guy Santiglia's complaint in the article below
    when she said that Sun has been cleared of similar charges that its H-1B practices violated labor laws. "It seems similar to what we've
    seen in the past where we have been cleared." There is one thing that isn't similar, this class-action was filed by a very skilled attorney
    by the name of James Caputo. You can bet that Carlini will be working overtime on her next bit of spin doctoring because this Caputo will
    have Sun sweating.

    Obviously Sun has a policy of preferring IIT grads because they are Indian. If they were truly superior students this might be justifiable, but here is a point of view that "60 Minutes" doesn't care to air:

    Dr. Norman Matlo

  23. I'm WAY past worrying about being Good !! on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    I'm a Vietnam vet. My father was a WWII vet. Now my son is going to be called for Iraq.

    But, I lost my job to an H-1B worker from India. He won't have to risk his life for America nor will his sons and daughters. Now I'm facing bankruptcy and can no longer send my son to college.

    No, I'm way past worrying about being good. I'm at the point of picking up my M-16 and fragging some folks!! For me, this is a war!! I was ready to die fighting as a soldier to protect your freedom. I'm sure darn ready to die fighting to save my family's well being!! And the first folks in my sights are going to be H1B-loving Americans!!

    DAMN YOU WHIMPY WEASEL TRAITORS!! YOU WOULDN'T LAST ONE DAY CRAWLING ON YOUR BELLY IN A RICE PADDIE!! YOU'D DIE WITHOUT YOUR CELL PHONE, PDA, AND STARBUCKS!!

  24. I'm WAY past worrying about ripple effect on Sun Sued Over H1-B Workers · · Score: 1

    Coy comments coming from another FDH (Fat Dumb & Happy) American.

    I'm a Vietnam vet. My father was a WWII vet. Now my son is going to be called for Iraq.

    But, I lost my job to an H-1B worker from India. He won't have to risk his life for America nor will his sons and daughters. Now I'm facing bankruptcy and can no longer send my son to college.

    No, I'm way past worrying about ripple effects. I'm at the point of picking up my M-16 and fragging some folks!! For me, this is a war!! I was ready to die fighting as a soldier to protect your freedom. I'm sure darn ready to die fighting to save my family's well being!! And the first folks in my sights are going to be H1B-loving Americans!!

    DAMN YOU WHIMPY WEASEL TRAITORS!! YOU WOULDN'T LAST ONE DAY CRAWLING ON YOUR BELLY IN A RICE PADDIE!! YOU'D DIE WITHOUT YOUR CELL PHONE, PDA, AND STARBUCKS!!

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    I'm sorry; but right off I have a problem believing an H-1B is earning $130k net right now. Could it be you just want to make me jealous? Could it be that you want to evade the clear fact that H-1Bs in general earn less than American counterparts?

    Surely you take advantage of the nonresident alien formulas at the IRS. You can skew these formulas by taking frequent trips out of the country - even day visits to Mexico.

    Oh, and what about the H-1Bs who live here on tax-free expense per diems while the bulk of their salary is paid in their home country? This is a common mode of operation for Tata subsidiaries.

    You can pull the wool over the eyes of our dumb politicians but your jive won't work on American techs. We work next to you guys. We know your games.

    Fortunately, many of your fellow H-1Bs are much more honest about how they are really paid and treated. More than one has confided in me about breaking away from their current contract because thay can barely survive and are tired of working overtime for free. They came to me because I was an independent American contractor with my own Subchapter S corporation.