The problem is the products aren't going to get any cheaper. Have you ever considered that they may be more expensive because of the DRM technology that goes into them?
You think adobe is going to sell copies of photoshop for under $600 bucks when they have been doing it for the last 8 years that way? Dream on. To be able to sell a product for cheap would mean that they could guarantee that there was no way it could be cracked. They could make it difficult as hell for people to break, but they won't be able to gaurantee it for another few decades. Until then you will pay the piper.
Hey slashdot, why all the low moderations? I agree completely with this guy, and so do most of the people who responded. Who is the idiot moderator for this topic?
No you don't understand. His companies' adoption of open source codebases obligates them to give back to the community unless they are developing in house tools. This shouldn't be an issue.
For people that look at opensource software and think it infringes on IP because of SCO, Linux, IBM
LOOK WHAT CORPORATIONS FUCKING DO. THESE BULLSHIT PATENTS ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND
Brilliant debating technique! Clearly you must be some sort of super-intelligent hybrid human/robot!
God that was lame. Actually I had no intention of debating this with you since your original post made it clear that you are an illogical ass without any facts anyway. My intent was simply to flame your stupidity.
Ignoring your absurd search criteria, searching on ".NET" yields 2229 hits, whereas "Java" yields 2075 hits.
Its "Java Programming" and ".NET Programming."
Refine your search dickhead.
While we are at it, let me take a stab I forgot to at your original post. This so called "natural progression" of shops switching over to dot net is nothing of the sort. It is called being fucked in the ass by a company that covers up technology failure after technology failure with marketing hype. They did it with COM, DCOM, COM+, DNA, ActiveX, Visual Basic, etc and they will do it with.NET too sucker. I'll sit back and code in Java on Linux while you apply your marketing patches;).
...and of course Microsoft shops comprise the majority of "shops" out there.
I beg to differ you idiot. Before posting so authoritatively why don't you do some homework? While its hard to find concrete evidence that shows which language has market dominance, there are some hints out there:
Doing a search for jobs here will show you that there are 4268 jobs with "Java" in their descriptions with only 366 jobs matching "C#" and 17 jobs matching ".NET"
This shows a graph of the languages in use on sourceforge.
...evidence of.NETs stunning market presence can be seen at your local bookshop: Already there are probably 2x the number of.NET books than there are Java books (seriously, go take a look).
Oh yeah clown? The only thing "stunning" here is your lunacy. Why don't you go take a look at thebookstore and search "Java Programming" then ".NET programming?" I get 601 books for.NET and 1463 for Java. That is over 2x more books for Java.
What bothers me even more than Microsoft's shitty products and nonexistant business ethics is that they have a slew of retarded users who can't provide even a shred of supporting evidence to back the claims they make. Its always stupid shit like "I use MS because no one ever got fired for it" or, "... because fonts look ugly in X". In this case you have an guy pulling shit out of ass that is not even true.
What in the hell was it in his post that prompted you to mod him up so much SlashdotXP?
I see a lot of anti-MS posts being modded down for what seems no good reason. Are we going to have to start setting our thresholds to 0 so we can see some good content and differing opinions around here?
Let's not forget something Slashdot: Microsoft is a screwed up company. They always have been and probably always will be. They screwed Java developers and users over with there fscked up version of the JVM. They screwed Netscape out of competing with them in the browser business. They ripped off graphical desktop computing from Xerox. Ad nauseum, the list goes on and on. Not to mention their products suck. That just goes without saying.
Instead of posting stupid headlines like Microsoft 2, Sun 0, just stick to the news that matters. "Yay, Microsoft work is getting ISO approval" would have been easier on the eyes. In fact, I read the article you linked to the story and it doesn't particularly emphasize Sun not having an ISO standard. In fact, it talks about sun having the JCP, which is a more flexible way to maintain specs and standards anyway IMO. Give me a break SlashdotXP.
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You think adobe is going to sell copies of photoshop for under $600 bucks when they have been doing it for the last 8 years that way? Dream on. To be able to sell a product for cheap would mean that they could guarantee that there was no way it could be cracked. They could make it difficult as hell for people to break, but they won't be able to gaurantee it for another few decades. Until then you will pay the piper.
Oh yeah? Well I have been looking forward to the days of ripping and pirating media illegally for a long time.
Hey slashdot, why all the low moderations? I agree completely with this guy, and so do most of the people who responded. Who is the idiot moderator for this topic?
No you don't understand. His companies' adoption of open source codebases obligates them to give back to the community unless they are developing in house tools. This shouldn't be an issue.
If its opensource code your working on, what makes you think it belongs to your company?
For people that look at opensource software and think it infringes on IP because of SCO, Linux, IBM LOOK WHAT CORPORATIONS FUCKING DO. THESE BULLSHIT PATENTS ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND
MS666
Here is a link to view sites under the (former) Iraqi government controlled ISP.
Elitest A-Holes? HAHAH
China search engine technology = 1 billion china men using google to find most precious result.
Mod parent down, illegal. OMG! Is this what you MS lawyers call "working aggressively?"
April 1st was 6 days ago.
ok ergo98. is 98 the year you were born or the version of windows you enjoy using for production servers?
HAHAHA. No.
You have got some serious rage issues.
Nope, just feeding the trolls.
God that was lame. Actually I had no intention of debating this with you since your original post made it clear that you are an illogical ass without any facts anyway. My intent was simply to flame your stupidity.
Ignoring your absurd search criteria, searching on ".NET" yields 2229 hits, whereas "Java" yields 2075 hits.
Its "Java Programming" and ".NET Programming." Refine your search dickhead.
While we are at it, let me take a stab I forgot to at your original post. This so called "natural progression" of shops switching over to dot net is nothing of the sort. It is called being fucked in the ass by a company that covers up technology failure after technology failure with marketing hype. They did it with COM, DCOM, COM+, DNA, ActiveX, Visual Basic, etc and they will do it with .NET too sucker. I'll sit back and code in Java on Linux while you apply your marketing patches ;).
boy aren't you a pissy bitch ok... sure... Anonymous Coward
I beg to differ you idiot. Before posting so authoritatively why don't you do some homework? While its hard to find concrete evidence that shows which language has market dominance, there are some hints out there:
Doing a search for jobs here will show you that there are 4268 jobs with "Java" in their descriptions with only 366 jobs matching "C#" and 17 jobs matching ".NET"
This shows a graph of the languages in use on sourceforge.
Oh yeah clown? The only thing "stunning" here is your lunacy. Why don't you go take a look at the bookstore and search "Java Programming" then ".NET programming?" I get 601 books for .NET and 1463 for Java. That is over 2x more books for Java.
What bothers me even more than Microsoft's shitty products and nonexistant business ethics is that they have a slew of retarded users who can't provide even a shred of supporting evidence to back the claims they make. Its always stupid shit like "I use MS because no one ever got fired for it" or, "... because fonts look ugly in X". In this case you have an guy pulling shit out of ass that is not even true.
What in the hell was it in his post that prompted you to mod him up so much SlashdotXP?
Let's not forget something Slashdot: Microsoft is a screwed up company. They always have been and probably always will be. They screwed Java developers and users over with there fscked up version of the JVM. They screwed Netscape out of competing with them in the browser business. They ripped off graphical desktop computing from Xerox. Ad nauseum, the list goes on and on. Not to mention their products suck. That just goes without saying.
Instead of posting stupid headlines like Microsoft 2, Sun 0, just stick to the news that matters. "Yay, Microsoft work is getting ISO approval" would have been easier on the eyes. In fact, I read the article you linked to the story and it doesn't particularly emphasize Sun not having an ISO standard. In fact, it talks about sun having the JCP, which is a more flexible way to maintain specs and standards anyway IMO. Give me a break SlashdotXP.