Is mathematics running into the same barrier as physics? It's just getting too complex and what do you do? If you can't given an exact answer, estimate the result and give upper bounds for the error.
I've got some solar panels but there's no way I'd hook them to my computer, the power generated is very variable, which is one of the problems I'm trying to solve.
You don't hook a diesel generator to a computer either. There should always be UPS between the computer and the backup power generator. That way the generator keeps the UPS charged and UPS feeds the computer nice, clean power.
Well I, in turn have to disagree on the following points:
deal *in a healthy way* with those that were different from them. Just go into (or think back to) a junior high classroom, all the bullying, cliques, hostility between different groups.
I'm sorry to sound cynical, but that is the way of the real world. Bullies don't disappear they only become less transparent, cliques only strengthen and hostility is prevalent if you're successful at what you're doing. You've just got to know how to deal with that crap in practise and at a personal level - especially if aim at a managerial or executive job. Your Lord of the Flies analogy is actually pretty accurate. How does a homeschooled kid deal with this raw assault when he/she grows up?
In addition to being vulnerable to abuse from the adult bullies, I suspect a homeschooled kid will not be able to deal compassionately with the less fortunate (money, IQ, whatever...) kids.
Another aspect of public school classrooms is the extreme degree of segregation by age. All your friends (and enemies, and those to whom you are merely indifferent) are ALL your age.
When I went to school I had friends from two grades up and I don't see why this should be any different these days.
The problem that I see with home schooling is that done wrongly, it doesn't prepare the kids to deal with different people.
I mean I did go to public school and I had to deal with smart kids, stupid kids, social kids, anti-social and outright aggressive kids, kids from rich families and kids from welfare families. Exactly like it will be in the real world.
A kid who is home schooled becomes easily blind to the differences, might grow elitist or just unable to cope with people with a different background.
It's the newspeak for the new millennium. "Free software" means free software - with the limitations imposed by GPL - and the "multiculture of operating systems" means multiculture - as long as Microsoft software is not involved.
Accept it: *nix is inherently a more secure design.
That is questionable. More likely there is an advantage to the people who set up and maintain the system. I readily admit that *nix systems that are harder to set up attract perhaps more professional and dedicated people.
Unix is more secure, because secutity is a process, not a product
Ok. And, getting back my original claim, if *nix were as popular Windows is these days. Would its security still be a process and not a product. Forgive me for being cynical, but I think not.
And, so the solution to this problem is to continue to go sheeplike to a single OS vendor because if we had a more even distribution of marketshare the network as a whole would be less vulnerable to attack. Explain to me again how this makes sense.
I'm not telling anyone to use any particular operating system or application. Hey, you can use whatever floats your boat because "there is no spoon" - there is no problem.
I run Linux on my home server, because I prefer Samba over NFS or Microsoft's own aborted version of this protocol. I keep my files there, on a Linux server, but I access them over the net purely using a Windows XP Pro, Office and Microsoft Visuals (Fortran and C) because I find these more productive.
On my Win computers I have Python and Perl installed and I even agree with your monoculture argument.
As such, most people should stop using Microsoft software.
Which brings me to the core of my posts. No, no, no. People should not stop using Microsoft software anymore than they should stop using free software, public domain software, shareware software, malware, spyware or any other kind of software. Telling people to stop using Microsoft software IS a call for a monoculture.
Leave people alone. Let them choose their own tools. Yes, sometimes it sucks and is definitely suboptimal but it's their way.
that comment shows either a complete lack of understanding about the difference between microsoft as a company and windows as their product and linux as an open source product
Ok, entertain me.
Does Microsoft, Sun, Redhat or any friggin software company promise in its contracts that the software is secure and it will be responsible for any damages? No.
What's your point? The "speedy response" from the open source community? Don't make me laugh.
Users don't run Unix as root. Viruses have a very hard time attacking programs they have no write permissions on.
Have you run any serious Windows version lately? Hint: I'm not talking about 95, 98 or ME. By default, you don't log onto them as the Administrator. Yeah, you can give yourself those privileges. How is this different from Linux?
Unix has a much longer history than Windows
Are you kidding me. Are you seriously trying to say that Linux is Unix? Well, while we're at it, I'll say that Windows NT (on which W2K, WinXP and Windows 2003 are built) is VMS which can compete with your concept of the Unix family-tree quite comfortably.
The killer Unix programs (Apache, SSH, PostgreSQL, etc.) don't run as root either. So even if they get exploited, worms can't do much with their rights anyway.
This is an administrative problem. If Linux were as widespread as Windows, you'd see exactly the same dumbness.
What makes you think that Linux is secure software? Or FreeBSD for that matter. I'd argue that OpenBSD is more secure but so is Trusted Solaris. Given the same marketshare as Windows, Linux would be just as much targetted by the black hats and script kiddies alike as Windows is these days. This time you cannot even blame Microsoft for delaying the patch. It was all because of a fault in software and if you argue that the open source alternatives are immune to remote holes, you're deluding yourself.
governments of the world should heavily fine ms each time a serious bug is found and/or exploited. and people should examine, and demand, better alternatives
Would you prepared to submit the open source community to this same program? Every time a governmental Linux server is cracked, RedHat, SuSe or fundamentally FSF will have to pay.
It will help us to fight off the inevitable alien invasion. Why do you think there is constant push for higher and higher tech weaponry even when the rest of the world has dropped way behind in weapons technology and R&D? It's 2012, man. That's when the fate of the mankind will be decided and we're gonna need every weapon the US military can devise.
You mean what's my price? Assuming that I believe strongly in anything?
Well, it depends on what I'm supposed to give up, but - short of selling someone off to torture and/or gruesome death - I'd say that everything is pretty much negotiable. (Amazon's) software patents aren't worth $10 to me.
Some people put a higher value on personal and/or ethical beliefs.
True. Why not if you can afford to splash extra $10 on a book just to make an ideological point. I bet they buy coffee, tea and food only from fair trade shops too.
I'd still like to know how exactly is the Earth's magnetic field connected to the weather.
not to mention animal life migration and that we rely on a definiton of North and South for every kind of orientation and that would change
Animal migration, well some birds might get lost on their way but I doubt nothing catastrophic would happen. As far as the navigation goes, we can always use high tech like satellites (GPS/Galileo/Glonass) which do not depend on Earth's magnetic dipole, or - in the worst case - low-tech methods like the sun and accurate timers. I'm sure that you as a Brazilian know that continents were found and empires built using the Sun as a navigational reference.
I took a break from posting because the net at my end seems to be slowly but surely grinding to a halt. I don't have any need to post as an AC.
Now I took some time reading the entire thread and quite frankly, after this last reply, I don't see your point. Just exactly how and where was I wrong?
My points: It's OK to experiment on cells or, as you seem to be making a song a dance about it for some reason, a single cell, but not on a living sentient being. Yes, a human being is comprised of a collection of "mere cells", but a collection "mere cells" does not imply a human being. Reseach should not be dropped just because a collection of "mere cells" has some potential to develop into a being that's capable of sentience (something an embryo is not).
I said: human/animal life. A microscopic collection of cells does not qualify as either. Yes, cells are life but then again you and I kill them in the millions all the time we are typing these posts. I just brushed my arm, sending a stream of dead and living skin cells in the air.
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The OS re-install is on another partition and if you fuck that up, you'll just have to cough up the cash for a retail Windows version.
Is mathematics running into the same barrier as physics? It's just getting too complex and what do you do? If you can't given an exact answer, estimate the result and give upper bounds for the error.
You don't hook a diesel generator to a computer either. There should always be UPS between the computer and the backup power generator. That way the generator keeps the UPS charged and UPS feeds the computer nice, clean power.
deal *in a healthy way* with those that were different from them. Just go into (or think back to) a junior high classroom, all the bullying, cliques, hostility between different groups.
I'm sorry to sound cynical, but that is the way of the real world. Bullies don't disappear they only become less transparent, cliques only strengthen and hostility is prevalent if you're successful at what you're doing. You've just got to know how to deal with that crap in practise and at a personal level - especially if aim at a managerial or executive job. Your Lord of the Flies analogy is actually pretty accurate. How does a homeschooled kid deal with this raw assault when he/she grows up?
In addition to being vulnerable to abuse from the adult bullies, I suspect a homeschooled kid will not be able to deal compassionately with the less fortunate (money, IQ, whatever...) kids.
Another aspect of public school classrooms is the extreme degree of segregation by age. All your friends (and enemies, and those to whom you are merely indifferent) are ALL your age.
When I went to school I had friends from two grades up and I don't see why this should be any different these days.
I mean I did go to public school and I had to deal with smart kids, stupid kids, social kids, anti-social and outright aggressive kids, kids from rich families and kids from welfare families. Exactly like it will be in the real world.
A kid who is home schooled becomes easily blind to the differences, might grow elitist or just unable to cope with people with a different background.
More like desperate anti-Microsoft FUD.
It's the newspeak for the new millennium. "Free software" means free software - with the limitations imposed by GPL - and the "multiculture of operating systems" means multiculture - as long as Microsoft software is not involved.
Thanks for clearing that up.
That is questionable. More likely there is an advantage to the people who set up and maintain the system. I readily admit that *nix systems that are harder to set up attract perhaps more professional and dedicated people.
Ok. And, getting back my original claim, if *nix were as popular Windows is these days. Would its security still be a process and not a product. Forgive me for being cynical, but I think not.
I'm not telling anyone to use any particular operating system or application. Hey, you can use whatever floats your boat because "there is no spoon" - there is no problem.
I run Linux on my home server, because I prefer Samba over NFS or Microsoft's own aborted version of this protocol. I keep my files there, on a Linux server, but I access them over the net purely using a Windows XP Pro, Office and Microsoft Visuals (Fortran and C) because I find these more productive.
On my Win computers I have Python and Perl installed and I even agree with your monoculture argument.
As such, most people should stop using Microsoft software.
Which brings me to the core of my posts. No, no, no. People should not stop using Microsoft software anymore than they should stop using free software, public domain software, shareware software, malware, spyware or any other kind of software. Telling people to stop using Microsoft software IS a call for a monoculture.
Leave people alone. Let them choose their own tools. Yes, sometimes it sucks and is definitely suboptimal but it's their way.
Ok, entertain me.
Does Microsoft, Sun, Redhat or any friggin software company promise in its contracts that the software is secure and it will be responsible for any damages? No.
What's your point? The "speedy response" from the open source community? Don't make me laugh.
Have you run any serious Windows version lately? Hint: I'm not talking about 95, 98 or ME. By default, you don't log onto them as the Administrator. Yeah, you can give yourself those privileges. How is this different from Linux?
Unix has a much longer history than Windows
Are you kidding me. Are you seriously trying to say that Linux is Unix? Well, while we're at it, I'll say that Windows NT (on which W2K, WinXP and Windows 2003 are built) is VMS which can compete with your concept of the Unix family-tree quite comfortably.
The killer Unix programs (Apache, SSH, PostgreSQL, etc.) don't run as root either. So even if they get exploited, worms can't do much with their rights anyway.
This is an administrative problem. If Linux were as widespread as Windows, you'd see exactly the same dumbness.
governments of the world should heavily fine ms each time a serious bug is found and/or exploited. and people should examine, and demand, better alternatives
Would you prepared to submit the open source community to this same program? Every time a governmental Linux server is cracked, RedHat, SuSe or fundamentally FSF will have to pay.
It will help us to fight off the inevitable alien invasion. Why do you think there is constant push for higher and higher tech weaponry even when the rest of the world has dropped way behind in weapons technology and R&D? It's 2012, man. That's when the fate of the mankind will be decided and we're gonna need every weapon the US military can devise.
"Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore yesterday defied a court order...on the grounds that God's law supercedes state and even federal law."
Why on earth would you start talking to your boss about something like that in the first place?
270 microseconds is 0.270 milliseconds.
That's plenty of time for scientists who these days dabble with attosecond (10E-18 s) laserpulses.
What the f... ah, yes. Pounds - not kilograms?
Well, it depends on what I'm supposed to give up, but - short of selling someone off to torture and/or gruesome death - I'd say that everything is pretty much negotiable. (Amazon's) software patents aren't worth $10 to me.
True. Why not if you can afford to splash extra $10 on a book just to make an ideological point. I bet they buy coffee, tea and food only from fair trade shops too.
Come on. Who cares about that if the same book on Amazon costs ~$10 less than on B&N?
I'd still like to know how exactly is the Earth's magnetic field connected to the weather.
not to mention animal life migration and that we rely on a definiton of North and South for every kind of orientation and that would change
Animal migration, well some birds might get lost on their way but I doubt nothing catastrophic would happen. As far as the navigation goes, we can always use high tech like satellites (GPS/Galileo/Glonass) which do not depend on Earth's magnetic dipole, or - in the worst case - low-tech methods like the sun and accurate timers. I'm sure that you as a Brazilian know that continents were found and empires built using the Sun as a navigational reference.
Now I took some time reading the entire thread and quite frankly, after this last reply, I don't see your point. Just exactly how and where was I wrong?
My points: It's OK to experiment on cells or, as you seem to be making a song a dance about it for some reason, a single cell, but not on a living sentient being. Yes, a human being is comprised of a collection of "mere cells", but a collection "mere cells" does not imply a human being. Reseach should not be dropped just because a collection of "mere cells" has some potential to develop into a being that's capable of sentience (something an embryo is not).
That's my argument in a nutshell.
And the scientists in the article (you did read it, didn't you?) experimented with?
a) Individual or a very small collection of cells.
b) A very large collection of cells, i.e. living breathing life-form?
Thanks for playing.
I said: human/animal life. A microscopic collection of cells does not qualify as either. Yes, cells are life but then again you and I kill them in the millions all the time we are typing these posts. I just brushed my arm, sending a stream of dead and living skin cells in the air.