Haha. I love when fanboys bring out the "vaporware" comments regarding.NET. Never mind that Longhorn is entirely based on it, replacing Win32. How could it possibly be vaporware if they're already releasing the betas for it?
Linux is a server OS. I don't know why Slashdotters fear the idea of it being just that, because that's what it is. Then you have the hobbyists who use it for their desktop environments as well. Linux doesn't extend farther than that.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world uses Windows and Macs. It's time to get off the high-horse.
How is the market "much more saturated and cynical?" When 2005 comes around and people are still using XP, you better believe the computing world will switch to the latest version of Windows, just like they did with XP.
I remember all the Slashdotters claiming nobody would switch to XP, how people were "disappointed," etc. Could that misleading information be a result of, oh, I don't know, the Linux bias around here?
Are you talking about that developer beta release for a product not due out for another two years? It sure would be silly if you were making judgements on it.
Office 2003 was geared more towards businesses. You're not seeing a lot of fanfare for it, though it was shipping with new computers even before its retail release date this month.
1.) The developer error stuff is talking about how.NET is basically a sandboxed runtime. Applications will be even more secure.
2.) The file system that searches for files strewn across hard drives is talking about WinFS, the SQL-integrated service that runs on top of NTFS and allows you to search via metadata. It's designed to help users find files in an era of 100+ GB hard drives.
They mean smart as in built-in anti-competitive DRM designed to squeeze others out of the marketplace and stopping me doing what I want to do with my e-mail?
How is it "anti-competitive" to allow a user to set permission rights on their e-mail? Do you even know what the DRM in Office 2003 is for and how it is used?
You are so grasping for straws here...others have already addressed the other factual issues with your post. You're another one of those anti-"M$" lackeys that Slashdot has, unfortunately, become a haven for. In fact, you're the reason we have a 4-to-1 Microsoft to Linux ratio of articles on the front page these days. It's all about page hits and ad views.
Nah, it means that ".Net" was a marketing failure. They think they can fix it by changing the name, that's all.
Seeing as how everyone is moving to.NET, including the next Windows version, you're clearly talking out your ass.
The whole MS FUD strategy is built on announcing new technolgy before it's available. If there's no new technology, then you simply add a few features to the old one and give it a new name. Thus, "WinFX".
Except that it's already available. Besides--how is that a "FUD strategy?" That doesn't even make sense.
Slashbots have become so closed-minded to the partyline that they spout knee-jerk reactions to anything with the word "Microsoft" in it. I wish you could see yourself. You're hurting Linux in the long-run.
"Jealousy has driven more mistakes by my competitors than anything else," Gates said. "When people focus not on the next breakthrough, but on cutting off Microsoft, it's actually been quite a windfall for us."
They're not marketing to anybody--this isn't the final product.
Just as I predicted, Slashbots are making their judgements based on the leak of something not due out for another two years, simply because it's Microsoft.
[A]nd trust me, 3 years from now Linux will be mainstream.
I heard this 3 years ago. And the 3 years before that.
Linux will not be mainstream in 3 years. I imagine things will be just as they are now. MacOS and its iteration, Microsoft putting out its new version of Windows, and Linux struggling to have even just a sane media player, much less a sane desktop environment not reliant on hacking on top of X11.
The former is not meant for general release, while the latter most certainly is, at least for those willing to risk using potentially unproven code on their system.
Wrong. If the former was not meant for general release, why is Microsoft going to make it availabe on their website in November?
Of course Longhorn will be released. I have no idea why the "vaporware" thing continues, as it's silly even for Linux trolls.
Longhorn is the whole reason.NET was first invented. They're replaced the interface with a new 3D one.
Obviously this build shows that work continues, and it's going to make those "vaporware" people look really foolish when Longhorn comes out and blows people away. Was 2.6 "vaporware" when it got delayed?
XP was based on 2000 and was all about gearing toward home users to get them off the DOS/9x kernel as well as improve multimedia integration with scanners, cameras, and so forth. There were also notable features like System Restore, File Protection, etc.
Longhorn will be a complete revamp. This build leak is pretty pointless, in my opinion. In two years, the 3D Aero interface will be unvieled, as will the WinFS system that will allow easy searchable access to any file on massively-sized hard drives.
Everything will be.NET including explorer.exe itself, as Win32 will be finally abandoned. This is almost like Microsoft starting over on a bunch of things that are holding Windows back. I am honestly looking forward to it (and also looking forward to how the Linux desktop environment react).
Slashdot is corporate-owned. That means the need for page hits, and therefore "Microsoft controversy." And then we get all the fanboys who've just started running Linux who can type "M$" to their heart's content.
In a typical week, there is a 4-to-1 ratio of Microsoft to Linux articles. This site has morphed from a pro-Linux to an anti-Microsoft website. I really miss just having cool technology news and cool Linux updates. Now it's all about bashing companies like the RIAA, SCO, Microsoft, and whoever else is set in the sites to generate page hits for the huge banner ads.
Having said that, this Longhorn build is a big deal for developers and such, because in two years, Longhorn (probably called Windows.NET) will be a huge step forward..NET will replace Win32, and the final 3D Aero interface (which this build is lacking) along with WinFS will shoot Windows forward past its current Start menu/taskbar paradigm.
If you need a reason, think of all the features KDE can spend another two years ripping off.;)
I hate when Slashdot posters use FUD tactics, and then complain when Microsoft uses them in other instances.
It is really unfortunate, but Microsoft isn't good for the computing industry anymore. Microsoft is only good for Microsoft. And principally this is because, Microsoft only cares about Microsoft winning, at any cost.
Meanwhile, more and more people are using C# and enjoying the language. All your talk of Microsoft's alleged intentions (wow, a business that looks out for its interests, who'd have thunk it?) doesn't matter because, as usual, they're winning.
All Slashdot posters can do is sit back and bitch about it instead of actually doing something about it. I'm sure we'll see more "M$" posts soon.
This isn't news. I believe Slashdot even reported this long ago. Microsoft wanted to purchase Connectix to better emulate support for older NT applications in their future server versions of Windows.
They also grabbed Virtual PC while they were at it.
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Haha. I love when fanboys bring out the "vaporware" comments regarding .NET. Never mind that Longhorn is entirely based on it, replacing Win32. How could it possibly be vaporware if they're already releasing the betas for it?
More server space. More on the SMP front.
Linux is a server OS. I don't know why Slashdotters fear the idea of it being just that, because that's what it is. Then you have the hobbyists who use it for their desktop environments as well. Linux doesn't extend farther than that.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world uses Windows and Macs. It's time to get off the high-horse.
Ah, another self-appointed market expert.
How is the market "much more saturated and cynical?" When 2005 comes around and people are still using XP, you better believe the computing world will switch to the latest version of Windows, just like they did with XP.
I remember all the Slashdotters claiming nobody would switch to XP, how people were "disappointed," etc. Could that misleading information be a result of, oh, I don't know, the Linux bias around here?
Are you talking about that developer beta release for a product not due out for another two years? It sure would be silly if you were making judgements on it.
Office 2003 was geared more towards businesses. You're not seeing a lot of fanfare for it, though it was shipping with new computers even before its retail release date this month.
1.) The developer error stuff is talking about how .NET is basically a sandboxed runtime. Applications will be even more secure.
2.) The file system that searches for files strewn across hard drives is talking about WinFS, the SQL-integrated service that runs on top of NTFS and allows you to search via metadata. It's designed to help users find files in an era of 100+ GB hard drives.
They mean smart as in built-in anti-competitive DRM designed to squeeze others out of the marketplace and stopping me doing what I want to do with my e-mail?
How is it "anti-competitive" to allow a user to set permission rights on their e-mail? Do you even know what the DRM in Office 2003 is for and how it is used?
You are so grasping for straws here...others have already addressed the other factual issues with your post. You're another one of those anti-"M$" lackeys that Slashdot has, unfortunately, become a haven for. In fact, you're the reason we have a 4-to-1 Microsoft to Linux ratio of articles on the front page these days. It's all about page hits and ad views.
Nah, it means that ".Net" was a marketing failure. They think they can fix it by changing the name, that's all.
.NET, including the next Windows version, you're clearly talking out your ass.
Seeing as how everyone is moving to
The whole MS FUD strategy is built on announcing new technolgy before it's available. If there's no new technology, then you simply add a few features to the old one and give it a new name. Thus, "WinFX".
Except that it's already available. Besides--how is that a "FUD strategy?" That doesn't even make sense.
Slashbots have become so closed-minded to the partyline that they spout knee-jerk reactions to anything with the word "Microsoft" in it. I wish you could see yourself. You're hurting Linux in the long-run.
Outlook automatically removes executables and other certain attachments.
Pure FUD.
"Jealousy has driven more mistakes by my competitors than anything else," Gates said. "When people focus not on the next breakthrough, but on cutting off Microsoft, it's actually been quite a windfall for us."
I bother because I have karma "Excellent." People associate my handle with whatever I post.
Clearly, you were misinformed. But I fully expect you to continue following my posts and taking the bait.
Next.
Not to be overly critical...
That's my job.
They're not marketing to anybody--this isn't the final product.
Just as I predicted, Slashbots are making their judgements based on the leak of something not due out for another two years, simply because it's Microsoft.
[A]nd trust me, 3 years from now Linux will be mainstream.
I heard this 3 years ago. And the 3 years before that.
Linux will not be mainstream in 3 years. I imagine things will be just as they are now. MacOS and its iteration, Microsoft putting out its new version of Windows, and Linux struggling to have even just a sane media player, much less a sane desktop environment not reliant on hacking on top of X11.
The former is not meant for general release, while the latter most certainly is, at least for those willing to risk using potentially unproven code on their system.
Wrong. If the former was not meant for general release, why is Microsoft going to make it availabe on their website in November?
Of course Longhorn will be released. I have no idea why the "vaporware" thing continues, as it's silly even for Linux trolls.
.NET was first invented. They're replaced the interface with a new 3D one.
Longhorn is the whole reason
Obviously this build shows that work continues, and it's going to make those "vaporware" people look really foolish when Longhorn comes out and blows people away. Was 2.6 "vaporware" when it got delayed?
XP was based on 2000 and was all about gearing toward home users to get them off the DOS/9x kernel as well as improve multimedia integration with scanners, cameras, and so forth. There were also notable features like System Restore, File Protection, etc.
.NET including explorer.exe itself, as Win32 will be finally abandoned. This is almost like Microsoft starting over on a bunch of things that are holding Windows back. I am honestly looking forward to it (and also looking forward to how the Linux desktop environment react).
Longhorn will be a complete revamp. This build leak is pretty pointless, in my opinion. In two years, the 3D Aero interface will be unvieled, as will the WinFS system that will allow easy searchable access to any file on massively-sized hard drives.
Everything will be
Slashdot is corporate-owned. That means the need for page hits, and therefore "Microsoft controversy." And then we get all the fanboys who've just started running Linux who can type "M$" to their heart's content.
.NET) will be a huge step forward. .NET will replace Win32, and the final 3D Aero interface (which this build is lacking) along with WinFS will shoot Windows forward past its current Start menu/taskbar paradigm.
;)
In a typical week, there is a 4-to-1 ratio of Microsoft to Linux articles. This site has morphed from a pro-Linux to an anti-Microsoft website. I really miss just having cool technology news and cool Linux updates. Now it's all about bashing companies like the RIAA, SCO, Microsoft, and whoever else is set in the sites to generate page hits for the huge banner ads.
Having said that, this Longhorn build is a big deal for developers and such, because in two years, Longhorn (probably called Windows
If you need a reason, think of all the features KDE can spend another two years ripping off.
This is not due out for another two years.
* The interface is not Aero.
* WinFS is not fully functioning.
* Obviously, things will radically change in two years.
There is no way to predict what the final output will be. This build is just to keep the Longhorn name in people's minds.
But, of course, I fully expect people here to treat this like a final product (two years...) and bash away. Because it's Microsoft!
Wow, this same joke, every time Slashdot updates about the latest 2.6 test.
I hate when Slashdot posters use FUD tactics, and then complain when Microsoft uses them in other instances.
It is really unfortunate, but Microsoft isn't good for the computing industry anymore. Microsoft is only good for Microsoft. And principally this is because, Microsoft only cares about Microsoft winning, at any cost.
Meanwhile, more and more people are using C# and enjoying the language. All your talk of Microsoft's alleged intentions (wow, a business that looks out for its interests, who'd have thunk it?) doesn't matter because, as usual, they're winning.
All Slashdot posters can do is sit back and bitch about it instead of actually doing something about it. I'm sure we'll see more "M$" posts soon.
You're bitching that they're adding too many ways to do things.
Other people are bitching that Microsoft doesn't give you other ways to do things.
The obvious conclusion is that people here at Slashdot just hate Microsoft for ANY reason. It's immature.
I'm sorry. This is so not funny. "+2 Funny?" Come on, moderators.
This isn't news. I believe Slashdot even reported this long ago. Microsoft wanted to purchase Connectix to better emulate support for older NT applications in their future server versions of Windows.
They also grabbed Virtual PC while they were at it.
Yeah, because the feature set of some PC emulator is really going to establish their monopoly!