newsflash, they're telling this to keep the community from jumping on to other vendors and not feeling screwed over how they got lied the game was almost ready, first they delay it and tell it's because they want to polish it up and 'add extra something maybe to mp' and then they delay it _extra_ 4 months? it's not like they've had hype up their ass and then backed out quietly before(remember steam, the original steam, announcements?)
First off, learn to write English correctly.
Second, the hack happened on the 11th. The delay was announced later that month.
I'm assuming the only reason the lifting of some portion of source code would lead to a delay is if it contained their copy protection code.
Then your assumption is completely wrong. The Steam code was leaked. Also, people will be writing tons of hacks and cheats now that they are exposed to the source code.
Still, it sounds more like this is a convenient excuse for late delivery to me. I'm sure this guys email really was compromised, and hey, it sounds good to the uninitiated - "our code was 'stolen', we have to go rewrite a lot of it, we'll be delayed by a few months".
The Slashbot mindset--every corporate action is a conspiracy.
Instead of making up conspiracies out of your ass, ever heard of a little thing called Steam? All mention of CD authentication and so forth aside, Steam was supposed to be the big thing to stop cheating. All of that will need to be rewritten.
It's all been exposed. People were going to give their credit card numbers to this thing. Now it's open for all to see and anyone can exploit/spoof it. The whole point of it to get rid of cheating has backfired.
Yes--contrary to the Slashbot idealist mindset--there are cases where security through obscurity is the best method. You have to look at each situation inviduallly and logically (instead of covering everything with a veil of ideology).
This is nothing more than them using this as an excuse for delaying the game - something that would have happened anyway.
Yeah, it's "nothing more," oh Valve Software insider. Please. The game was ready to ship for September 30. The hack happened September 11. Guess what was announced soon afterward? That's right, the delay.
We'd already be playing this game if it wasn't for the source leak. Valve's plans were ruined. I'm hoping for late November.
Ever heard of a little thing called Steam? All mention of CD authentication and so forth aside, Steam was supposed to be the big thing to stop cheating.
Now it's all exposed. People were going to give their credit card numbers to this thing. Now it's open for all to see and anyone can exploit/spoof it.
Yes--contrary to the Slashbot idealist mindset--there are cases where security through obscurity is the best method. You have to look at each situation inviduallly and logically (instead of covering everything with a veil of ideology).
This is nothing more than them using this as an excuse for delaying the game - something that would have happened anyway.
Yeah, it's "nothing more," oh Valve Software insider. Please. The game was ready to ship for September 30. The hack happened September 11. Guess what was announced not much longer later? That's right, the delay.
We'd already be playing this game if it wasn't for the source leak. Valve's plans were ruined. I'm hoping for late November.
I have to wonder how long until people start to realize that for truly critical (read millions of dollars) work, you're best off having the production machines OFFLINE.
Well, before you start blasting Valve, why don't you actually read up on the hack? It was a buffer overflow in the Outlook preview pane that allowed the hacker to install custom versions of RemoteAnywhere. Password sniffers and other keyloggers were installed on various machines to grab passwords and so forth.
The machine with the code was not connected to the net. It was, however, on the network.
On the OSS side of things, this should be a (small) boon to projects like Konq and Mozilla that aren't going to require all the online applications and plugins to be re-coded.
In other words, it took a silly patent lawsuit against Microsoft that is bad for the web for the OSS browsers to bother catching up to IE's level of usage.
You have been socially engineered by Microsoft to think that such things as one-click installs are necesarry and desirable.
No, consumer feedback from years of user research has socially engineered Microsoft into believing it is necessary and desirable, because this is EXACTLY what people want.
Have you even tried running Windows post-NT without administrator privilegs, and how it also doesn't let you change things without an administrator password? Your post was just endless FUD spawned from a chip on your shoulder against Microsoft. It's okay; 90% of the posters here have that same chip. For them, using Linux is a catharsis of their reactionary hatred for Microsoft, and they love to talk about them endlessly.
All the while ignoring that--as Slashdot itself even reported--Linux is the most compromised system on the net. And with all the ssh/ssl vulnerabilities, many people have seen that Linux is not so golden and pristine, and that everything is insecure. It's just that Windows is everywhere on the desktop (and that won't change within the two years until Longhorn, no matter how many people try to spin it).
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Again, you've failed to explain why sex scenes are "dirty," as you put it, and violence not.
You just say that sex is dirty, and that's why it's worse.
As opposed to Wooden Boy Gore. "I'm really mad!" *raises eyebrows slightly*
When you put "pirating" in quotes, I knew your post would be worthless.
Guess what, cupcake, the hack happened on September 11th, and the delay was announced later that month. Why do you think that is?
Or not.
Ha, well, yeah. Apparently there are some of those in the code, though I don't know the specifics.
Nope. The GPL code was licensed Havoc physics code.
What part of this don't people get? The sourcecode for Steam was released. Cheat writers are having a field day. All of that needs to be rewritten.
How many times does this need to be pointed out? It was Gabe's e-mail that was hacked. The machine containing that source wasn't on the net.
Or TO them. Relax.
All alleged betas have been confirmed as hoaxes, often with trojans hidden in them.
http://gtwy.hl2arena.com/
In other words, my point was valid, but you just decided to rant for a few paragraphs about semantics for no reason. My "wording."
newsflash, they're telling this to keep the community from jumping on to other vendors and not feeling screwed over how they got lied the game was almost ready, first they delay it and tell it's because they want to polish it up and 'add extra something maybe to mp' and then they delay it _extra_ 4 months? it's not like they've had hype up their ass and then backed out quietly before(remember steam, the original steam, announcements?)
First off, learn to write English correctly.
Second, the hack happened on the 11th. The delay was announced later that month.
You do the math.
Alledgedly.
That's what happened according to Gabe himself.
Which is all well and good, but none of that stuff was in the leaked src tree.
Yes, it was. The source for Steam was in that tree (along with Hammer, TF2, etc.).
If security through obscurity was the best method here, then what would've happened if the source was leaked after the game had hit the stores?
They'd be just as fucked as they are now. What's your point?
I'm assuming the only reason the lifting of some portion of source code would lead to a delay is if it contained their copy protection code.
Then your assumption is completely wrong. The Steam code was leaked. Also, people will be writing tons of hacks and cheats now that they are exposed to the source code.
Still, it sounds more like this is a convenient excuse for late delivery to me. I'm sure this guys email really was compromised, and hey, it sounds good to the uninitiated - "our code was 'stolen', we have to go rewrite a lot of it, we'll be delayed by a few months".
The Slashbot mindset--every corporate action is a conspiracy.
They're not rewriting the game, they're rewriting all the authentication. The entire Steam code was leaked.
It has "EVERYTHING" to do with the code leak. Stop pretending like you know Gabe Newell's mind.
Instead of making up conspiracies out of your ass, ever heard of a little thing called Steam? All mention of CD authentication and so forth aside, Steam was supposed to be the big thing to stop cheating. All of that will need to be rewritten.
It's all been exposed. People were going to give their credit card numbers to this thing. Now it's open for all to see and anyone can exploit/spoof it. The whole point of it to get rid of cheating has backfired.
Yes--contrary to the Slashbot idealist mindset--there are cases where security through obscurity is the best method. You have to look at each situation inviduallly and logically (instead of covering everything with a veil of ideology).
This is nothing more than them using this as an excuse for delaying the game - something that would have happened anyway.
Yeah, it's "nothing more," oh Valve Software insider. Please. The game was ready to ship for September 30. The hack happened September 11. Guess what was announced soon afterward? That's right, the delay.
We'd already be playing this game if it wasn't for the source leak. Valve's plans were ruined. I'm hoping for late November.
Ever heard of a little thing called Steam? All mention of CD authentication and so forth aside, Steam was supposed to be the big thing to stop cheating.
Now it's all exposed. People were going to give their credit card numbers to this thing. Now it's open for all to see and anyone can exploit/spoof it.
Yes--contrary to the Slashbot idealist mindset--there are cases where security through obscurity is the best method. You have to look at each situation inviduallly and logically (instead of covering everything with a veil of ideology).
This is nothing more than them using this as an excuse for delaying the game - something that would have happened anyway.
Yeah, it's "nothing more," oh Valve Software insider. Please. The game was ready to ship for September 30. The hack happened September 11. Guess what was announced not much longer later? That's right, the delay.
We'd already be playing this game if it wasn't for the source leak. Valve's plans were ruined. I'm hoping for late November.
I have to wonder how long until people start to realize that for truly critical (read millions of dollars) work, you're best off having the production machines OFFLINE.
Well, before you start blasting Valve, why don't you actually read up on the hack? It was a buffer overflow in the Outlook preview pane that allowed the hacker to install custom versions of RemoteAnywhere. Password sniffers and other keyloggers were installed on various machines to grab passwords and so forth.
The machine with the code was not connected to the net. It was, however, on the network.
This says otherwise. In fact, Gabe Newell says only a small portion of source was taken.
On the OSS side of things, this should be a (small) boon to projects like Konq and Mozilla that aren't going to require all the online applications and plugins to be re-coded.
In other words, it took a silly patent lawsuit against Microsoft that is bad for the web for the OSS browsers to bother catching up to IE's level of usage.
"GNU/Linux" weenies will argue with you about this for days. But what you said is true, the kernel is the base definition.
"Cruelling," "gone stupid," "dud document," and "gronk." I fear for the tech support person who would ever have to deal with your call.
"And how many 'gronks' was it, sir, one gronk or two?"
You have been socially engineered by Microsoft to think that such things as one-click installs are necesarry and desirable.
No, consumer feedback from years of user research has socially engineered Microsoft into believing it is necessary and desirable, because this is EXACTLY what people want.
Have you even tried running Windows post-NT without administrator privilegs, and how it also doesn't let you change things without an administrator password? Your post was just endless FUD spawned from a chip on your shoulder against Microsoft. It's okay; 90% of the posters here have that same chip. For them, using Linux is a catharsis of their reactionary hatred for Microsoft, and they love to talk about them endlessly.
All the while ignoring that--as Slashdot itself even reported--Linux is the most compromised system on the net. And with all the ssh/ssl vulnerabilities, many people have seen that Linux is not so golden and pristine, and that everything is insecure. It's just that Windows is everywhere on the desktop (and that won't change within the two years until Longhorn, no matter how many people try to spin it).