Firstly, there is no way they can be talkinging about all the data availible on the internet. Filesharing networks alone have WAY more data than this, and when you add all the FTP servers and mirrors, the webmail archives, the home Windows users with insecure shares...
There is no way this can be true. Even if you ONLY take publicly availible WWW pages, it would far exceed their measly estimate.
I suspect you are wrong. You cannot limit the location where the game is played (although some programs tried, illegally, like Quake 2) but you can limit where is it SOLD.
Thus, if you buy a copy of the game here in South Africa, you can take it back to the USA and play it there, however, you might not be able to import the game from South Africa, and then sell it in the USA.
2. I'll wait until there's definite proof of people without internet who have the comps to play HL2. Besides, you just said it yourself, 10 years from now you can download it from the abandonwarez sites.
Okay. a friend of mine is studying in Cape Town. The only access to the internet he has is at his university. He owns an AMD64 3200+ with an X800, which he bought a few months ago here in Durban. How is he supposed to play HL2?
With regards to the email client problem, that is not solely a latency or bandwidth issue. The client has utterly abbysmal performance when it comes to moving and copying messages.
One would imagine they wanted to see what the load on the servers is in heavy but non-peak usage as well? Testing their nightly log dumps, server consistency checks, etc?
Or perhaps they want to see what quality of connection they can supply to their customers, and don't want hundreds of Europeans, Asians, Africans or Australasians sending them reports about their inevitably bad connections?
You are broadly correct, but you missed the point.
The first post complained about the changing interfaces. Somebody repied in a post that basically equated interfaces, decorative or not, with backgrounds.
My post refuted that point. Interfaces may be decorative, but if they do not actual DO anything (are not functional), they are not interfaces. If backgrounds have interactive, functional elements, they are not backgrounds, but interfaces.
In this case it is worse than that. I also always uncheck those options, and selected to have no file types associated to Winamp. Winamp automatically associates itself with the.WSZ and.WAL files regardless of the options you select.
Where in the proof that Valve have optimised for ATI and not for any other card? Valve have claimed they have spent up to five times us much time on optimising the game for Nvidia, with little result. Could it be that the game they wanted to make was just unsuited to the Nvidia hardware, like the way it seems that the X800 may be unsuitable for Doom 3?
Personally, I am a bit apprehensive about HL2. I was one of the very few people who had a good opinion (or ANY opinion) of Half Life before it came out, and my instincts were right about that game. However, right now I feel that Doom 3 is going to blow Half-Life 2 away not only in terms of graphics, but in sheer enjoyability.
Buying an X800 was a bit of a mistake, but it was the best card on the market at the time, and I got a pretty good price, so I don't have too many regrets. ATI did mislead everybody, but so has Nvidia, who were the first with extreme optimisations for 3dmark, and when the Geforce 3 wasn't selling well because of price and because nobody wanted to buy a 3 when the Geforce 4 was obviously better, releasing a bastard child of a Geforce 2 and Geforce 3, and calling it a Geforce 4. Those scams severly damaged my trust in Nvidia.
Oh yeah, now I see what you mean. Valve should never have charged them for Half Life 2. They should have just given it to all the card makers for free. After all, they are doing Valve a favor by designing and producing the graphics cards they need for people to play the game.
Perhaps you don't recall, but there was a time when GOOD games came bundled with hardware. We all bought our double-speed CD-ROMs for the shiny Star War rail-shooter Rebel assault, then we bought our quad-speed CD-ROMs for that fabulous four pack of Wing Commander 2, Strike Commander, Syndicate Plus and Ultima 8.
Half Life is one of the most anticipated games of all time. It will sure sell a ton of video cards. Heck, it sold me my X800, even if that purchase might have been a mistake. We will see once HL2 comes out.
I live in South Africa, so I don't think I will be paying you a visit. How much RAM was in the system?
id Software developed both titles, true, but I believe the publisher is different, some different people worked on Doom3, and the idea of minimum requirements might have changed, in the minds of the developers and in the minds of the public.
Look, Mr Invader Zim Fanboy, show us some evidence of this payoff, more than "everybody know that...", and we will give you the attention you crave. Until then, we will believe the reasonable technical explanation given to us by Valve for the poor performance of the nVidia cards.
I call bullshit on your post. I ran Q3A on a 166 with a voodoo2, minimum detail, 320x240 and I got a solid 23 fps.
Additionally, some companies give better listed requirements than others. Generals was treacle on my Althon 800, but Vice City flew. Both listed my PC as minimum requirements.
I run a AMD64 3400+ with a X800 Pro. I use a 300W power supply. If I have move than 2 IDE devices connected, all the newer 3D games cause the system to sieze up. If you are running a powerfull rig with an X800, you need more than a 300W PSU.
mod grandparent +1/-1 informative, troll. mod parent -2, flamebait, troll.
It is broadly correct to call American call football 'football' because it is a type of foot ball. Just like it is also correct to call rugby union, rugby league, rugby 7s, and Australian Rules football: football. They all share a common parent, Football, or soccer as it is known in America.
When people like the poster talks about rugby, they mean Rugby Football Union, unless they live in parts of Australasia, Rugby Football League is play more frequently. Thus, most people do not complain when Rugby is used to specify Rugby Union almost exclusively, because it is the most popular version of the game.
Similarly, football means 'soccer', due to convention, and due to it being the parent of all other footballs.
Soccer is not the name of the game, however, it is an old nickname for the sport. The way Americans call football 'soccer' would be the same as everybody else calling American Football 'gridiron'.
Thus, to prevent the rest of the world wondering what news stories like this one are about, please just insert the word 'American' in the story title, as an indication that you know that there is a larger world outside of your country.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The stuff they call 'social engineering' is NOT social engineering. It is Confidence Art, or conning, or grifting.
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Python is the waaay....
Come to the dark side....
Who needs to compile...?
Your code will look sooo pretty....
The voices in my head are back. I tried to tell them I was happy with VC.net, but they keep calling to me...
Perhaps I should give in to them.
Firstly, there is no way they can be talkinging about all the data availible on the internet. Filesharing networks alone have WAY more data than this, and when you add all the FTP servers and mirrors, the webmail archives, the home Windows users with insecure shares...
There is no way this can be true. Even if you ONLY take publicly availible WWW pages, it would far exceed their measly estimate.
I suspect you are wrong. You cannot limit the location where the game is played (although some programs tried, illegally, like Quake 2) but you can limit where is it SOLD.
Thus, if you buy a copy of the game here in South Africa, you can take it back to the USA and play it there, however, you might not be able to import the game from South Africa, and then sell it in the USA.
2. I'll wait until there's definite proof of people without internet who have the comps to play HL2. Besides, you just said it yourself, 10 years from now you can download it from the abandonwarez sites.
Okay. a friend of mine is studying in Cape Town. The only access to the internet he has is at his university. He owns an AMD64 3200+ with an X800, which he bought a few months ago here in Durban. How is he supposed to play HL2?
With regards to the email client problem, that is not solely a latency or bandwidth issue. The client has utterly abbysmal performance when it comes to moving and copying messages.
They did, RTFA.
The only type of 'work' they tested was typing. This does cause one to question the validity of the sweeping productivity statements made.
Still, I definately work best at around 25deg C. The freezing office I work in makes my fingers to stiff to type properly.
After all, today's flight's pilot, Brian Binnie, is a South African.
One would imagine they wanted to see what the load on the servers is in heavy but non-peak usage as well? Testing their nightly log dumps, server consistency checks, etc?
Or perhaps they want to see what quality of connection they can supply to their customers, and don't want hundreds of Europeans, Asians, Africans or Australasians sending them reports about their inevitably bad connections?
You are broadly correct, but you missed the point.
The first post complained about the changing interfaces. Somebody repied in a post that basically equated interfaces, decorative or not, with backgrounds.
My post refuted that point. Interfaces may be decorative, but if they do not actual DO anything (are not functional), they are not interfaces. If backgrounds have interactive, functional elements, they are not backgrounds, but interfaces.
> I don't enjoy the work of EE Cummings
> I just don't enjoy his style.
Aparently you don't, as he is normally referenced as 'ee cummings' as reflected by his style.
In this case it is worse than that. I also always uncheck those options, and selected to have no file types associated to Winamp. Winamp automatically associates itself with the .WSZ and .WAL files regardless of the options you select.
Are you a troll or just an idiot? A background isn't an interface. Interfaces are functional, backgrounds are decorative.
To this end, I would suggest RMS as Boromir.
Argh, I can't believe I just posted to a thread this lame...
Where in the proof that Valve have optimised for ATI and not for any other card? Valve have claimed they have spent up to five times us much time on optimising the game for Nvidia, with little result. Could it be that the game they wanted to make was just unsuited to the Nvidia hardware, like the way it seems that the X800 may be unsuitable for Doom 3?
Personally, I am a bit apprehensive about HL2. I was one of the very few people who had a good opinion (or ANY opinion) of Half Life before it came out, and my instincts were right about that game. However, right now I feel that Doom 3 is going to blow Half-Life 2 away not only in terms of graphics, but in sheer enjoyability.
Buying an X800 was a bit of a mistake, but it was the best card on the market at the time, and I got a pretty good price, so I don't have too many regrets. ATI did mislead everybody, but so has Nvidia, who were the first with extreme optimisations for 3dmark, and when the Geforce 3 wasn't selling well because of price and because nobody wanted to buy a 3 when the Geforce 4 was obviously better, releasing a bastard child of a Geforce 2 and Geforce 3, and calling it a Geforce 4. Those scams severly damaged my trust in Nvidia.
Oh yeah, now I see what you mean. Valve should never have charged them for Half Life 2. They should have just given it to all the card makers for free. After all, they are doing Valve a favor by designing and producing the graphics cards they need for people to play the game.
Perhaps you don't recall, but there was a time when GOOD games came bundled with hardware. We all bought our double-speed CD-ROMs for the shiny Star War rail-shooter Rebel assault, then we bought our quad-speed CD-ROMs for that fabulous four pack of Wing Commander 2, Strike Commander, Syndicate Plus and Ultima 8.
Half Life is one of the most anticipated games of all time. It will sure sell a ton of video cards. Heck, it sold me my X800, even if that purchase might have been a mistake. We will see once HL2 comes out.
I set everything to lowest, including the resolution, 16 bit colour...
I live in South Africa, so I don't think I will be paying you a visit. How much RAM was in the system?
id Software developed both titles, true, but I believe the publisher is different, some different people worked on Doom3, and the idea of minimum requirements might have changed, in the minds of the developers and in the minds of the public.
Look, Mr Invader Zim Fanboy, show us some evidence of this payoff, more than "everybody know that...", and we will give you the attention you crave. Until then, we will believe the reasonable technical explanation given to us by Valve for the poor performance of the nVidia cards.
I played it on an Athlon 800 with a Geforce2 GTS, and got 10 fps. Not playable.
I call bullshit on your post. I ran Q3A on a 166 with a voodoo2, minimum detail, 320x240 and I got a solid 23 fps.
Additionally, some companies give better listed requirements than others. Generals was treacle on my Althon 800, but Vice City flew. Both listed my PC as minimum requirements.
Kind of like the Dual-Core Processor, Soundblaster Audigy 2 and multiple-processor graphics card I'm using now?
I run a AMD64 3400+ with a X800 Pro. I use a 300W power supply. If I have move than 2 IDE devices connected, all the newer 3D games cause the system to sieze up. If you are running a powerfull rig with an X800, you need more than a 300W PSU.
mod grandparent +1/-1 informative, troll.
mod parent -2, flamebait, troll.
It is broadly correct to call American call football 'football' because it is a type of foot ball. Just like it is also correct to call rugby union, rugby league, rugby 7s, and Australian Rules football: football. They all share a common parent, Football, or soccer as it is known in America.
When people like the poster talks about rugby, they mean Rugby Football Union, unless they live in parts of Australasia, Rugby Football League is play more frequently. Thus, most people do not complain when Rugby is used to specify Rugby Union almost exclusively, because it is the most popular version of the game.
Similarly, football means 'soccer', due to convention, and due to it being the parent of all other footballs.
Soccer is not the name of the game, however, it is an old nickname for the sport. The way Americans call football 'soccer' would be the same as everybody else calling American Football 'gridiron'.
Thus, to prevent the rest of the world wondering what news stories like this one are about, please just insert the word 'American' in the story title, as an indication that you know that there is a larger world outside of your country.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The stuff they call 'social engineering' is NOT social engineering. It is Confidence Art, or conning, or grifting.
Yeah... Fuck space flight, Doom 3 is a far more important achievement to humanity.