I believe that this outlook is quintessentially libertarian because anyone is allowed to do whatever he wishes until he causes harm, in which instance he is nailed to the wall- it is also quintessentially pessemistic -refer to Plato's Republic especially the story of the Ring of Gyges.
What you are basically saying is that most people will do what they can get away with, the only thing stopping people from murder etc etc. is the fact that there are instances as you say that you will get their butt nailed to the wall. Therefore the only reason people respect the law is the fact that they being intensely self-interested are only motivated to follow laws because of their fear of punishment.......
Thanks for the laugh I think I will still take the word of reputable historians both military and civil over you pile of hogwash anyday.
Ever since WWI they steadly lost various territorial posessions (well earlier if you count the Americas) and that war sapped them.....
Well well so you are a supporter of the British would like to see your "great" land become a member of the Commonwealth again?? I believe your views would not be held by a majority of your own population.
As for Britain losing a war against China. Explain to me General (your views are definately on the same par as a 5 star at least) how this would go undetected by the whole of the world. How would it be over in 5 minutes. Please give some supporting evidence. How would China mount a strike would it be Nuclear, Conventional Missiles, or the funniest one I could envisage is the sneaking of conventional forces that distance!
Firing a missile would violate so many countries airspace that China would be embroiled in major incursion from most of the countries around them??
Ok so it would happen with the tacit support of both the USA and Russia. Do you know anything about warfare or a you just a complete ignoramus on these matters.
Surely your boy's at NORAD or the people at Russian Central Space Command would detect such things?? If not Longreach in Australia. Ok let's just for the arguement say that it happened. This still invalidates your carefully crafted hypothesis because of the simple fact of treaty obligations an attack on Britain would be viewed as an attack on all NATO countries (you fucking dolt)
PS as an avid fan of airpower and the military in general you arguements are also invalid to the point that the RAF have consistently been the best pilots around since WWII. It might come as a shock to you perhaps you really believe all that TOP GUN bullshit you have been fed. Which airforce had the highest kill ratio's in the Gulf even look it up it is at Janes (if you don't know what this is then no point formulating the Tzu like strategies)discounting the Russians or the Israeli's I might add.
Where did you get your military education - John Wayne movies???
Read some history- for starters you might start with the brilliant works of Churchill, AJP Taylor, Keaton, Keagan the list is quite long. Start their come back with an informed opinion and then start arguing.
Just cause you can play a video game called RED ALERT don't mean you know how to validly argue for China getting rid of Great Britain in any type of exchange...
Did you even bother reading the top of the article just for arguements sake I will indulge you....
The article was written by an e-commerce analyst. So you see there is then tenious link to technology that you are so arrogant to overlook
PS. The man was not a hippie. It seems that you have to much Reagan in you to see otherwise. Perhaps a genetic purge\replacement therapy will solve you of this just in case you are this Republican idols long lost love child......
PPS I am also not a hippie.
My it would be funny to great every protester in this way. The Klan marches (bloody hippies), Aryan Nation (bloody hippies) anti-abortionists (bloody religious hippies) the level of your ignorance really does stagger me....
Either that or the large section of US big business who where in active support of the Nazi regime. How about the insurance Companies that insured people of Jewish origin and others (whom they knew full well would never make it through the war!!-and you talk about Nazi's only contributing to their problems these people profited for them, these motherfuckers profited from them)
How about your good old GWB's grandfather being a tacit supporter of Hitler, JFK's old man loving the guy both of these men investing in those day's millions of dollars.
Now I am not just saying it was the USA, it was sections in other countries to.... (in Britian, in France). How about a large section of your senate not willing to do anything about Hitler because they where afraid of alienating the German-American vote especially in states like Minnesota etc...
Do not be so naive. Please read alittle history before jumping up on your high horse and rewriting it all for us.
To everyone -Yeh so vote for GWB he'll only make the world a better place much like his father and his father before him, on the other hand vote for the other puppet Gore. Shit watching the RNC was much like watching scenes from a movie (was it all coordinated by ILM again???)
So does that mean when I have vanquished my enemies I get to rape and sodomise their daughters???
Come on your a clever boy you should know the Bible like the back of your hand. Tell me which Book, Chapter and Verse this was commanded and to whom. If you can't then shut the fuck up.
By the way I could easily say the same thing. Scientists say there might be something missing in the STANDARD MODEL guess what hold the phone it's me??? See this is a prophecy that I have fulfilled as well.
By the way I think that I have been wounded and bruised, come from the seed of Women, Mocked, accused by a false witness
If you like I will enter Jerusalem by Donkey to does that mean it's me?????
Check back into the nuthouse I think your daypass just expired............
These are all self-fulfilling prophecies you dipshit they do not impact on anything besides the Bible. This arguement is completely circular- I can understand if you do not understand this!!
Nearly every religion can have these self-fulfilling prophecies eg. The Koran, The Teaching of Buddha etc etc etc there is a tribe of African's that believe the Universe was created from the excrements of Ants. Prove to me that that isn't true???
By the way who sits at the Right Hand Side (when I read this I was doing some Calculus work I immediately thought about a theorem)guess who it is it is me. Well if you combine the first three pages of Genesis divide them by an equal amount of bullshit and a smidgeon of absolute poppycock you get my name and surname and street address even!!!
This is the truth by the way as the Bible is infallible
I believe dear brother (organ music softly playing C Minor 7th chord in the background)
Oh bless me Margaret, Steve and Lowell for I have sinned....
Which fucking idiot doesn't believe in this Holy of Holiest Trinities. They must be out of their fucking minds or under direct control of Richard the Furry Mouse bane of all in Creation
I have the faith my brother, I am prosletysing it where ever I go!!!!
If you believe in God and you believe he has always existed: Then it can also be said that the universe has always existed.
You are telling me to believe in something that has always existed and is unknowable well I assert that that is the Universe or the Origins of Life if you like. Try and disprove it!! You probably could you know but it would involve numbers, a logical brain, conjecture and a very long time-sound like something you know duh it's science??
PS The Big Bang is a theory it is not incontrevertible but you have to give evidence against it as there is alot that supports it. The same goes for Evolution, you want to propose something in it's place then be my guess it will have to be subject to empirical testing and peer review. PS Don't try intelligent design that is as this is a form of evolution albeit one with a purpose
Science is not some religion where you have to accept every theory or you are out of the club. Some scientists I know don't believe in the Big Bang others disagree as to its actual implications.
Oh no will have to use maths and scientific theories wait maybe there is an escape clause in the back of the Bible oh no!!!!
There are no facts in science moron the closest things that comes to it are Laws which if you get into science at a high enough level. Like above High School level, Cletis you will learn that most of these are just "models" for the Universe not the actual Universe. But try explaining that to kids. Science has a process for revising it's findings, peer review, experiment, mathematics. Shit how are you using your computer at the moment dip-shit. I am sure it is the angels riding bicycles inside your computer..
Get a clue, then get a brain then use it..........
For a greater understanding of the theory why not read book by Richard Dawkins such as the "Selfish Gene", "Extended Phenotype", "Climbing Mount Improbable" these are books written by an arguably the most eminent biologist on the planet. His arguements are quite convincing. I suggest you read them before picking up anything by Behe again. It is always wise when reading on a subject to "sample" all the current knowledge - I don't think your experience as a programmer matters one iota I could have easily said in my experience as a gigolo. PS You also have not had a system that has been running for close to 3.5 billion years or considered all of the random variables involved, non-linear feedback etc. You misunderstand what mutation means so do most "creationists" of Behe's ilk.....
Behe is not a name well regarded in the scientific community read stuff by the aforementioned or Stephen Jay Gould, Maynard Smith, Eldredge........
PS As to whether there is a God well you can argue until the cows come home. The debate has been going since the days of Plato and Aristotle and continued till today. I doubt that you or anybody on this planet can solve it convincingly
Speaking from my experience as a lavatory attendant!!
Couldn't agree with you more. Unfortuantely the latter versions eg. especially ones featuring him on the N64 have just basically taken his character and chucked him into a 3D based game we have all seen before. I suppose they where relying on his popularity from the "old-day's" to sell a few more cartridges.....ho humph. Although I have to say Kong64 was not a terrible game it was basically a case of been there seen that time a million.
I suppose the old addage that there are really only 8 stories in the world that keep getting retold over and over again is probably true of video games as well. Wonder what the 8 are (something like that could really keep a no-lifer like me up at nights???)
I am actually starting to find it quite amusing this one made me genuinely laugh. Must be one of those jokes that just keeps getting better and better.
Ever thought about taking it on the road and touring it. Shit the comedy circuit jumps up and down on individuals such as you
Besides my other comment replying to you (last night my time - I live in Australia)what is your take on all of this.
For my money's worth it seems as if we can already approximate all of the details that make up the atmosphere on a planet as unique and distinctive as Mars might be?? How do we know what is install for us. Granted we can approximate the conditions down at the research facility but this is quite different to the outside world. It seems that everyone has forgotten the principles of Chaos theory these day's oh that's right it is called non-linear feedback in Dynamic Systems now isn't it??
I think the stress on this experiment is the "simulating" the conditions. It is like getting astronauts to go up in planes or underwater to "simulate" a zero G environment. From the testimony of most astronaut's it is quite different when you actually get up there....
Ok granted it should be attempted "to boldly go" and all that Star Trek sentiment and also in the quest for human discovery but for my money it is just cheaper to send "complex" systems like robots up there. I know the last one crashed but so did the first few bloody rockets we sent up into orbit!!!!
I am going to sleep now so I will make this short.
I think that in "theory" it is brilliant to study these area's. I am just alittle sceptical about some of the claims that will be made from the theories as pertaining to ACTUAL CONCRETE FACT (as in that is the way the universe actually is instead of our interpretation of it)
I have no doubt that theories are likely way's of looking at the universe. It is the same as the atom (the debate over whether it really has this shape or whether this is the best shape that we can possibly give it judging by all the mathematical theory and "direct" evidence -who knows there are interesting points on both sides of the spectrum. I probably sit somewhere in the middle as I have a major in Philosophy\Comp Science\Mathematics. It is hard to make "exact" claims from theories)
I believe we are "imperfect" individuals therefore all of our theories will always be flawed coming out of an imperfect cranium evolved to survive in the African Savanah. But do theories describe what might be happening-of course they this cannot be disputed except for those armed with their own set of trusty mathematical implements-thus the paradox!!
Not knowing to much about M-Theory I would hesitate to make comment.
I hope that SUPERSTRING THEORY does become a binding and cohesive unit of knowledge in both Mathematics and Physics (I suppose it applies more so here than in Mathematics -Mathematicians are notorious for deliberately making there theories inapplicable in the "real" world) ST-would do much to make our understanding of the Universe that much better and complete another little piece in the puzzle. I have not heard much from this quarter in awhile perhaps they have become stuck on bones of contention as these things always do.
Of course new mathematics will always be evolving much like any other science if it wishes to survive- Scientists usually level this barrage at Religion saying it evolves to accomodate but so does science I do believe.
Of course Physicists can come up with new number theories (whether they become accepted by the mathematicians is another question without alot of scrutiny)
I always go back to the initial point of LOGIC. It seems as though we constantly are seeking the answers to questions that we already have an inkling of the answer to. The maths we are "inventing" we are tailoring to our own ends as if the end product is completely unknown. I don't know.... equations (which most of maths is no matter the complexity cannot have to many unknowables many things must be assumed, framed in order to present a cohesive "arguement")
This frightens me sometimes it seems we rigidly follow their precepts without seeing that they can sometimes be interpreted in a different light!!
Physics does not suffer from this as much as other Sciences (even though you will get many astrophycists that swear to you they KNOW things concretely about the Universe, same I suppose for Quantum Mechanics - I have heard rumblings in some quarters that the Standard Model is wrong but how could this be when the maths doesn't allow it?? Aha they say we will show you that the Maths they are using is being interpreted incorrectly!!!)
It happens alot Biology especially gene theory, Intelligence Studies, Neuroscience suffers from this in no abounds. I myself am an evolutionist but see this as more of a belief system than a concrete fact, even though one would be foolish not to see the glaring bits of evidence that make it such a tantalising and obvious belief. But there are those amongst us that can prove these kind of premises to us mathematically (Richard Dawkins one of my heroes can, bless his precious mind!!), I do not know.
I think MATHS presents us with many alternatives it is not such a simple IN OUT OPERATION - the user makes judgements on the numbers concluding certain facts which are then taken as ABSOLUTE! This bothers me sometimes.........
Enough of my ranting......
Anways I am off to sleep to dream of numbers.............
Yeah, well I'm sure they're well used to your histrionics by now... -hmmm a psychiatrist as well.
Perhaps I can sit down with you and tell you about my mother as well......:)
My fault- I thought you believed in "that stuff" as you refer to it. I see now that you are just refering to the theories- a much more tenable position to be in.
Being serious:
1. About the Black Hole thing I meant what I meant when I thought you meant what you meant.
2. You asked me which "Black Hole Thing" so I told you. Penrose's Theorem (or that is what I know it as) completed in 1964 (on a bit of paper I might add and not confirmed by any evidence-a yes the bane of nearly all of astrophysics!!!) I see now I was way off as you where only stating theories not advocating anything........:(
3. You where talking of your "some kind of Turing Machine" which you did not present in your original arguement. You only later introduced this to the debate. I took exception to this when you did not mention it. Therefore I began writing all of this "gibberish" as you so eloquently put it (I couldn't agree with you more by the way I generally to prefer to speak alot of crap here on/. it allows my brain to get rid of it kinda like a seweage valve) By they way nobody know's a really lame flame when they see one these days........
4. Or do you mean about learning some MATHS- ALL Mathematicians know that Physicists use mathematics to prove their "pet" theories when they have already formulated the "subjective" hypotheses in their own heads to begin with, then they go out and somehow find their empirical evidence. (this is a gross generalization but not to far from the truth)
It is a simple exercise in LOGIC. To prove the conclusion: 1. At least one or both of the propositions must be true Statements eg. The Moon is made of Green Cheese, I am an idiot 2. If the premises are false so will the conclusion be. 3. We can never start off with 2 false propositions to prove conclusions. (So the maker of the theory usually knows what he is looking for to begin with -this is another gross generalization. I seriously don't believe that all science is rubbish or fantasy but some of it is closer to philosophy than most hard nosed "scientists" would like to admit!
Anything can be proven if you really look hard enough and fudge enough numbers together. eg. I can find you millions of correlations in the Bible that make it look like a code. I can find your name my name even this post if I have enough compute cycles. Same as I could get a group of monkeys to type out this post (or Shakespeare as they say given enough time!!)
I can reply this time-oh how benevolent of you. I forgot that you are now the chief controlling force of the whole Internet not to mention the universe by the implications in your post.
So you are a theorectical physicist!- oh know better stop the arguement here we have (a wait for it!!!)a CLAIM TO AUTHORITY.
Somebody not so pompous would say that they are still learning physics even Newton but you no you know it all you already LEARNT it all.
You must of had an amazing teacher he already taught you everything! Or did you just teach yourself after applying your BULLSHIT theories. It is amazing how much you know about me when I read your email I put my hands on the screen and my ulcer just went away!!
I presume you still are contributing theory in this field and not just studied for 3-4 years.
Pity I have not heard of your name anywhere as you seem to have learnt everything.
Many points:
1. Thanks for the laughs and the insults, I plan to print this out and show it to the Theoretical Physics faculty at Macquarie University!!
2. I never implied that my intellect dwarf's yours either (don't know how the hell you implied that must be your own form of neuroses)
3. I could not be bothered explaining anything to you that you can find out for yourself by enrolling in more classes or joining a physics\mathematics mailing list. Or better still go back and become a Doctor then a Proffessor of Theoretical Physics (that would still not make you an expert. Oh that's right I forgot you already know it all!!)
4. I never said I understood the whole of Quantum Mechanics............
5. I myself study pure mathematics does that make me king shit too, oh no it doesn't because I don't know everything (unlike yourself) not even English!!
6. I suppose this theory of your's is being peer reviewed somewhere in a Physical Review Letters or can't the rest of us mere mortals perform peer review on your groundbreaking research. Even other physicist learn from each other.
7. Oh no here it is the theory of all theories wait for it: The some kind of Turing Machine (how will I ever reply to that will have to check this out with the Comp Sci. Division)!! I have only heard\learnt about Turing Machines not this new form of "some kind of Turing Machine". By the way this was not implied in your post (and you are commenting on other peoples English plus you are writing a book please make it more interesting than this post) How the hell can we know what you mean if you do not tell us? Do we pray to you? Did you mention it in the Bible??
8. You should know everything about blackhole's because after all you learnt it in your IAMATHEORETICALKNOWALL degree. Most people only learn a small portion of physics or whatever course they do. Not jump around claiming they know all of it.
9. I am devolving into complete gibberish- Thank you! Of course I am compared to a genius such as yourself who KNOWS IT ALL!!!!!
10. Sorry I can't look any better shall I change my shirt or something..........
11. Come on now surely who have heard of the singularity theory of Black Holes. It is also sometimes called Penroses theory come on genius it has only been around since 1964. Check it out, do the math see for yourself. Oh that's right you are a physicist. Learn some MATHS then!!
By the way on the English thing it is spelt Sentence, if you are going to use a) and b) use double dots before time eg. time: a)I am so superior b) I have my head stuck up my ass.
Might want to note this since you are writing a book!!!
Signed the Amoeba who dared criticise the man with the Physics degree in everything.
Speculative is that what they call BULLSHIT where you come from....
It is quite amazing how many cranks there are that revert to using Quantum Physics without truly understanding it's implications shit there are only a couple of thousand people who can seriously grasp the complexity of the whole thing.
While you at it why don't you explain turbulence to as as well!!!
Physics of Immortality- is this required reading down at your nearest High School or University. They probably use it to wipe their asses with dowm at MIT.
"Subjective Time" - refer to the Theory of Relativity you dolt or read some Einstein, Penrose, Hawking, Davies etc ad infinitum. Your not telling us anything new.
In case you are stuck back in the 1800's please read some recent findings into the nature of our Universe, might I suggest NASA or even the MIT websites, if that is to much why not watch some Discovery channel!!!
By the way your Black Hole thing you will still suffer the same fate that of becoming part of the singularity which they emanate from (now this is speculation but alot better than your pseudo-bullshit!!)
If there is some type of control on/. can this thread now be terminated. I know the irony of what I am saying I have contributed twice to it! (See studying logic is paying of ma!!) -Once in response to a bigot the other in response to a question??
This discussion is about MARS COLONISATION a topic that I would love to here ideas from as I have learnt there are many intelligent and insightful posts to be read on/. in many areas in which I consider myself a mere amoeba. Please finish with this pointless excuse for a post. Otherwise come up with something at least remotely intelligent. You are like self-propagating genes with this thing.......
Naturally select this bastard out....
Peace Love and Mung Beans to the rest of you out there!!!
I have actually been married for 6 years quite happily to a woman, I am a hetero-sexual and always have been always will be I have no interest in the gay lifestyle unlike some of the people that I know. PS. Some of those guy's would probably crack your fucking skull for your point of view......
But perhaps it takes more than the brains of an amoeba to realise that you do not need to be gay to realise that you can defend their lifestyle.
If you are refering to me being a faggot in the traditional English sense then I am certainly not a piece of kindling.... Look it up do you know what a book is??
PS There have been recent studies done to actually show those that are most homophobic do it because they seem to display those same tendancies themselves, they are "revolted" by what they consider abnormal and therefore act out their aggression on others. I am confident in my sexuality, I have been laid and continue to get laid on average 3 times a week (by a woman, sometimes even 2!!).....
If you are a homophobe which you obivously are maybe you are the one that is confused. If this is the case perhaps you should give it a go....you might be the one in denial I know who I am and am comfortable in my hetero-sexual lifestyle are you equally comfortable, if not perhaps try it you might like it!!!
Otherwise you redneck motherfucker fuck you and the whole of your inbred fucking viewpoint....
If there are to many big words here remember look at a book yes they are the ones without pictures in them, yeh the ones you do not need to colour in..............
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I believe that this outlook is quintessentially libertarian because anyone is allowed to do whatever he wishes until he causes harm, in which instance he is nailed to the wall- it is also quintessentially pessemistic -refer to Plato's Republic especially the story of the Ring of Gyges.
What you are basically saying is that most people will do what they can get away with, the only thing stopping people from murder etc etc. is the fact that there are instances as you say that you will get their butt nailed to the wall. Therefore the only reason people respect the law is the fact that they being intensely self-interested are only motivated to follow laws because of their fear of punishment.......
Interesting and really depressing.............
Fucking primitive screwhead
Thanks for the laugh I think I will still take the word of reputable historians both military and civil over you pile of hogwash anyday.
Ever since WWI they steadly lost various territorial posessions (well earlier if you count the Americas) and that war sapped them.....
Well well so you are a supporter of the British would like to see your "great" land become a member of the Commonwealth again?? I believe your views would not be held by a majority of your own population.
As for Britain losing a war against China. Explain to me General (your views are definately on the same par as a 5 star at least) how this would go undetected by the whole of the world. How would it be over in 5 minutes. Please give some supporting evidence. How would China mount a strike would it be Nuclear, Conventional Missiles, or the funniest one I could envisage is the sneaking of conventional forces that distance!
Firing a missile would violate so many countries airspace that China would be embroiled in major incursion from most of the countries around them??
Ok so it would happen with the tacit support of both the USA and Russia. Do you know anything about warfare or a you just a complete ignoramus on these matters.
Surely your boy's at NORAD or the people at Russian Central Space Command would detect such things?? If not Longreach in Australia. Ok let's just for the arguement say that it happened. This still invalidates your carefully crafted hypothesis because of the simple fact of treaty obligations an attack on Britain would be viewed as an attack on all NATO countries (you fucking dolt)
PS as an avid fan of airpower and the military in general you arguements are also invalid to the point that the RAF have consistently been the best pilots around since WWII. It might come as a shock to you perhaps you really believe all that TOP GUN bullshit you have been fed. Which airforce had the highest kill ratio's in the Gulf even look it up it is at Janes (if you don't know what this is then no point formulating the Tzu like strategies)discounting the Russians or the Israeli's I might add.
Where did you get your military education - John Wayne movies???
Read some history- for starters you might start with the brilliant works of Churchill, AJP Taylor, Keaton, Keagan the list is quite long. Start their come back with an informed opinion and then start arguing.
Just cause you can play a video game called RED ALERT don't mean you know how to validly argue for China getting rid of Great Britain in any type of exchange...
Thanks for the laugh's once again.......
Did you even bother reading the top of the article just for arguements sake I will indulge you....
The article was written by an e-commerce analyst. So you see there is then tenious link to technology that you are so arrogant to overlook
PS. The man was not a hippie. It seems that you have to much Reagan in you to see otherwise. Perhaps a genetic purge\replacement therapy will solve you of this just in case you are this Republican idols long lost love child......
PPS I am also not a hippie.
My it would be funny to great every protester in this way. The Klan marches (bloody hippies), Aryan Nation (bloody hippies) anti-abortionists (bloody religious hippies) the level of your ignorance really does stagger me....
Signed
River Moonbeam III
Either that or the large section of US big business who where in active support of the Nazi regime. How about the insurance Companies that insured people of Jewish origin and others (whom they knew full well would never make it through the war!!-and you talk about Nazi's only contributing to their problems these people profited for them, these motherfuckers profited from them)
How about your good old GWB's grandfather being a tacit supporter of Hitler, JFK's old man loving the guy both of these men investing in those day's millions of dollars.
Now I am not just saying it was the USA, it was sections in other countries to.... (in Britian, in France). How about a large section of your senate not willing to do anything about Hitler because they where afraid of alienating the German-American vote especially in states like Minnesota etc...
Do not be so naive. Please read alittle history before jumping up on your high horse and rewriting it all for us.
To everyone -Yeh so vote for GWB he'll only make the world a better place much like his father and his father before him, on the other hand vote for the other puppet Gore. Shit watching the RNC was much like watching scenes from a movie (was it all coordinated by ILM again???)
So does that mean when I have vanquished my enemies I get to rape and sodomise their daughters???
Come on your a clever boy you should know the Bible like the back of your hand. Tell me which Book, Chapter and Verse this was commanded and to whom. If you can't then shut the fuck up.
By the way I could easily say the same thing. Scientists say there might be something missing in the STANDARD MODEL guess what hold the phone it's me??? See this is a prophecy that I have fulfilled as well.
By the way I think that I have been wounded and bruised, come from the seed of Women, Mocked, accused by a false witness
If you like I will enter Jerusalem by Donkey to does that mean it's me?????
Check back into the nuthouse I think your daypass just expired............
These are all self-fulfilling prophecies you dipshit they do not impact on anything besides the Bible. This arguement is completely circular- I can understand if you do not understand this!!
Nearly every religion can have these self-fulfilling prophecies eg. The Koran, The Teaching of Buddha etc etc etc there is a tribe of African's that believe the Universe was created from the excrements of Ants. Prove to me that that isn't true???
I reckoin it should be +3 Insanely Funny.
I nearly fell out of my seat
By the way who sits at the Right Hand Side (when I read this I was doing some Calculus work I immediately thought about a theorem)guess who it is it is me. Well if you combine the first three pages of Genesis divide them by an equal amount of bullshit and a smidgeon of absolute poppycock you get my name and surname and street address even!!!
This is the truth by the way as the Bible is infallible
Now that was definately Divinely Inspired.
All praise the Holy Sphincter creator of all things knowable and unknowable!!!
I believe dear brother (organ music softly playing C Minor 7th chord in the background)
Oh bless me Margaret, Steve and Lowell for I have sinned....
Which fucking idiot doesn't believe in this Holy of Holiest Trinities. They must be out of their fucking minds or under direct control of Richard the Furry Mouse bane of all in Creation
I have the faith my brother, I am prosletysing it where ever I go!!!!
Ok smartarse I'll bite try this one on for size.
If you believe in God and you believe he has always existed: Then it can also be said that the universe has always existed.
You are telling me to believe in something that has always existed and is unknowable well I assert that that is the Universe or the Origins of Life if you like. Try and disprove it!! You probably could you know but it would involve numbers, a logical brain, conjecture and a very long time-sound like something you know duh it's science??
PS The Big Bang is a theory it is not incontrevertible but you have to give evidence against it as there is alot that supports it. The same goes for Evolution, you want to propose something in it's place then be my guess it will have to be subject to empirical testing and peer review. PS Don't try intelligent design that is as this is a form of evolution albeit one with a purpose
Science is not some religion where you have to accept every theory or you are out of the club. Some scientists I know don't believe in the Big Bang others disagree as to its actual implications.
Oh no will have to use maths and scientific theories wait maybe there is an escape clause in the back of the Bible oh no!!!!
There are no facts in science moron the closest things that comes to it are Laws which if you get into science at a high enough level. Like above High School level, Cletis you will learn that most of these are just "models" for the Universe not the actual Universe. But try explaining that to kids. Science has a process for revising it's findings, peer review, experiment, mathematics. Shit how are you using your computer at the moment dip-shit. I am sure it is the angels riding bicycles inside your computer..
Get a clue, then get a brain then use it..........
For a greater understanding of the theory why not read book by Richard Dawkins such as the "Selfish Gene", "Extended Phenotype", "Climbing Mount Improbable" these are books written by an arguably the most eminent biologist on the planet. His arguements are quite convincing. I suggest you read them before picking up anything by Behe again. It is always wise when reading on a subject to "sample" all the current knowledge - I don't think your experience as a programmer matters one iota I could have easily said in my experience as a gigolo. PS You also have not had a system that has been running for close to 3.5 billion years or considered all of the random variables involved, non-linear feedback etc. You misunderstand what mutation means so do most "creationists" of Behe's ilk.....
Behe is not a name well regarded in the scientific community read stuff by the aforementioned or Stephen Jay Gould, Maynard Smith, Eldredge........
PS As to whether there is a God well you can argue until the cows come home. The debate has been going since the days of Plato and Aristotle and continued till today. I doubt that you or anybody on this planet can solve it convincingly
Speaking from my experience as a lavatory attendant!!
Couldn't agree with you more. Unfortuantely the latter versions eg. especially ones featuring him on the N64 have just basically taken his character and chucked him into a 3D based game we have all seen before. I suppose they where relying on his popularity from the "old-day's" to sell a few more cartridges.....ho humph. Although I have to say Kong64 was not a terrible game it was basically a case of been there seen that time a million.
I suppose the old addage that there are really only 8 stories in the world that keep getting retold over and over again is probably true of video games as well. Wonder what the 8 are (something like that could really keep a no-lifer like me up at nights???)
Thanks for the reply.
Keep dodging them barrels...
Not wanting to labour on the obvious but where any of these game mentioned:
1. Space Invaders 2. 1942 3. Asteroids,4. Donkey Kong 5. Defender
I am actually starting to find it quite amusing this one made me genuinely laugh. Must be one of those jokes that just keeps getting better and better.
Ever thought about taking it on the road and touring it. Shit the comedy circuit jumps up and down on individuals such as you
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Besides my other comment replying to you (last night my time - I live in Australia)what is your take on all of this.
For my money's worth it seems as if we can already approximate all of the details that make up the atmosphere on a planet as unique and distinctive as Mars might be?? How do we know what is install for us. Granted we can approximate the conditions down at the research facility but this is quite different to the outside world. It seems that everyone has forgotten the principles of Chaos theory these day's oh that's right it is called non-linear feedback in Dynamic Systems now isn't it??
I think the stress on this experiment is the "simulating" the conditions. It is like getting astronauts to go up in planes or underwater to "simulate" a zero G environment. From the testimony of most astronaut's it is quite different when you actually get up there....
Ok granted it should be attempted "to boldly go" and all that Star Trek sentiment and also in the quest for human discovery but for my money it is just cheaper to send "complex" systems like robots up there. I know the last one crashed but so did the first few bloody rockets we sent up into orbit!!!!
anyway that is my 3 cents worth
superstring theory/M-theory -
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I am going to sleep now so I will make this short.
I think that in "theory" it is brilliant to study these area's. I am just alittle sceptical about some of the claims that will be made from the theories as pertaining to ACTUAL CONCRETE FACT (as in that is the way the universe actually is instead of our interpretation of it)
I have no doubt that theories are likely way's of looking at the universe. It is the same as the atom (the debate over whether it really has this shape or whether this is the best shape that we can possibly give it judging by all the mathematical theory and "direct" evidence -who knows there are interesting points on both sides of the spectrum. I probably sit somewhere in the middle as I have a major in Philosophy\Comp Science\Mathematics. It is hard to make "exact" claims from theories)
I believe we are "imperfect" individuals therefore all of our theories will always be flawed coming out of an imperfect cranium evolved to survive in the African Savanah. But do theories describe what might be happening-of course they this cannot be disputed except for those armed with their own set of trusty mathematical implements-thus the paradox!!
Not knowing to much about M-Theory I would hesitate to make comment.
I hope that SUPERSTRING THEORY does become a binding and cohesive unit of knowledge in both Mathematics and Physics (I suppose it applies more so here than in Mathematics -Mathematicians are notorious for deliberately making there theories inapplicable in the "real" world) ST-would do much to make our understanding of the Universe that much better and complete another little piece in the puzzle. I have not heard much from this quarter in awhile perhaps they have become stuck on bones of contention as these things always do.
Of course new mathematics will always be evolving much like any other science if it wishes to survive- Scientists usually level this barrage at Religion saying it evolves to accomodate but so does science I do believe.
Of course Physicists can come up with new number theories (whether they become accepted by the mathematicians is another question without alot of scrutiny)
I always go back to the initial point of LOGIC. It seems as though we constantly are seeking the answers to questions that we already have an inkling of the answer to. The maths we are "inventing" we are tailoring to our own ends as if the end product is completely unknown. I don't know.... equations (which most of maths is no matter the complexity cannot have to many unknowables many things must be assumed, framed in order to present a cohesive "arguement")
This frightens me sometimes it seems we rigidly follow their precepts without seeing that they can sometimes be interpreted in a different light!!
Physics does not suffer from this as much as other Sciences (even though you will get many astrophycists that swear to you they KNOW things concretely about the Universe, same I suppose for Quantum Mechanics - I have heard rumblings in some quarters that the Standard Model is wrong but how could this be when the maths doesn't allow it?? Aha they say we will show you that the Maths they are using is being interpreted incorrectly!!!)
It happens alot Biology especially gene theory, Intelligence Studies, Neuroscience suffers from this in no abounds. I myself am an evolutionist but see this as more of a belief system than a concrete fact, even though one would be foolish not to see the glaring bits of evidence that make it such a tantalising and obvious belief. But there are those amongst us that can prove these kind of premises to us mathematically (Richard Dawkins one of my heroes can, bless his precious mind!!), I do not know.
I think MATHS presents us with many alternatives it is not such a simple IN OUT OPERATION - the user makes judgements on the numbers concluding certain facts which are then taken as ABSOLUTE! This bothers me sometimes.........
Enough of my ranting......
Anways I am off to sleep to dream of numbers
Yeah, well I'm sure they're well used to your histrionics by now... -hmmm a psychiatrist as well.
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/. it allows my brain to get rid of it kinda like a seweage valve) By they way nobody know's a really lame flame when they see one these days........
:))
Perhaps I can sit down with you and tell you about my mother as well......:)
My fault- I thought you believed in "that stuff" as you refer to it. I see now that you are just refering to the theories- a much more tenable position to be in.
Being serious:
1. About the Black Hole thing I meant what I meant when I thought you meant what you meant.
2. You asked me which "Black Hole Thing" so I told you. Penrose's Theorem (or that is what I know it as) completed in 1964 (on a bit of paper I might add and not confirmed by any evidence-a yes the bane of nearly all of astrophysics!!!) I see now I was way off as you where only stating theories not advocating anything........
3. You where talking of your "some kind of Turing Machine" which you did not present in your original arguement. You only later introduced this to the debate. I took exception to this when you did not mention it. Therefore I began writing all of this "gibberish" as you so eloquently put it (I couldn't agree with you more by the way I generally to prefer to speak alot of crap here on
4. Or do you mean about learning some MATHS- ALL Mathematicians know that Physicists use mathematics to prove their "pet" theories when they have already formulated the "subjective" hypotheses in their own heads to begin with, then they go out and somehow find their empirical evidence. (this is a gross generalization but not to far from the truth)
It is a simple exercise in LOGIC. To prove the conclusion: 1. At least one or both of the propositions must be true Statements eg. The Moon is made of Green Cheese, I am an idiot 2. If the premises are false so will the conclusion be.
3. We can never start off with 2 false propositions to prove conclusions. (So the maker of the theory usually knows what he is looking for to begin with -this is another gross generalization. I seriously don't believe that all science is rubbish or fantasy but some of it is closer to philosophy than most hard nosed "scientists" would like to admit!
Anything can be proven if you really look hard enough and fudge enough numbers together. eg. I can find you millions of correlations in the Bible that make it look like a code. I can find your name my name even this post if I have enough compute cycles. Same as I could get a group of monkeys to type out this post (or Shakespeare as they say given enough time!!)
You are right on the English though:
Study Mathematics that is why I Pure
I can reply this time-oh how benevolent of you. I forgot that you are now the chief controlling force of the whole Internet not to mention the universe by the implications in your post.
So you are a theorectical physicist!- oh know better stop the arguement here we have (a wait for it!!!)a CLAIM TO AUTHORITY.
Somebody not so pompous would say that they are still learning physics even Newton but you no you know it all you already LEARNT it all.
You must of had an amazing teacher he already taught you everything! Or did you just teach yourself after applying your BULLSHIT theories. It is amazing how much you know about me when I read your email I put my hands on the screen and my ulcer just went away!!
I presume you still are contributing theory in this field and not just studied for 3-4 years.
Pity I have not heard of your name anywhere as you seem to have learnt everything.
Many points:
1. Thanks for the laughs and the insults, I plan to print this out and show it to the Theoretical Physics faculty at Macquarie University!!
2. I never implied that my intellect dwarf's yours either (don't know how the hell you implied that must be your own form of neuroses)
3. I could not be bothered explaining anything to you that you can find out for yourself by enrolling in more classes or joining a physics\mathematics mailing list. Or better still go back and become a Doctor then a Proffessor of Theoretical Physics (that would still not make you an expert. Oh that's right I forgot you already know it all!!)
4. I never said I understood the whole of Quantum Mechanics............
5. I myself study pure mathematics does that make me king shit too, oh no it doesn't because I don't know everything (unlike yourself) not even English!!
6. I suppose this theory of your's is being peer reviewed somewhere in a Physical Review Letters or can't the rest of us mere mortals perform peer review on your groundbreaking research. Even other physicist learn from each other.
7. Oh no here it is the theory of all theories wait for it: The some kind of Turing Machine (how will I ever reply to that will have to check this out with the Comp Sci. Division)!! I have only heard\learnt about Turing Machines not this new form of "some kind of Turing Machine". By the way this was not implied in your post (and you are commenting on other peoples English plus you are writing a book please make it more interesting than this post) How the hell can we know what you mean if you do not tell us? Do we pray to you? Did you mention it in the Bible??
8. You should know everything about blackhole's because after all you learnt it in your IAMATHEORETICALKNOWALL degree. Most people only learn a small portion of physics or whatever course they do. Not jump around claiming they know all of it.
9. I am devolving into complete gibberish- Thank you! Of course I am compared to a genius such as yourself who KNOWS IT ALL!!!!!
10. Sorry I can't look any better shall I change my shirt or something..........
11. Come on now surely who have heard of the singularity theory of Black Holes. It is also sometimes called Penroses theory come on genius it has only been around since 1964. Check it out, do the math see for yourself. Oh that's right you are a physicist. Learn some MATHS then!!
By the way on the English thing it is spelt Sentence, if you are going to use a) and b) use double dots before time eg. time: a)I am so superior b) I have my head stuck up my ass.
Might want to note this since you are writing a book!!!
Signed the Amoeba who dared criticise the man with the Physics degree in everything.
Thank you for replying to this guy, perhaps he forgot to read the back page! Sponsored by MAD Magazine.
Thank you for bringing a bit of sanity to this man!!!
Speculative is that what they call BULLSHIT where you come from....
It is quite amazing how many cranks there are that revert to using Quantum Physics without truly understanding it's implications shit there are only a couple of thousand people who can seriously grasp the complexity of the whole thing.
While you at it why don't you explain turbulence to as as well!!!
Physics of Immortality- is this required reading down at your nearest High School or University. They probably use it to wipe their asses with dowm at MIT.
"Subjective Time" - refer to the Theory of Relativity you dolt or read some Einstein, Penrose, Hawking, Davies etc ad infinitum. Your not telling us anything new.
In case you are stuck back in the 1800's please read some recent findings into the nature of our Universe, might I suggest NASA or even the MIT websites, if that is to much why not watch some Discovery channel!!!
By the way your Black Hole thing you will still suffer the same fate that of becoming part of the singularity which they emanate from (now this is speculation but alot better than your pseudo-bullshit!!)
Why not just sit around chanting!!!!
If there is some type of control on /. can this thread now be terminated. I know the irony of what I am saying I have contributed twice to it! (See studying logic is paying of ma!!) -Once in response to a bigot the other in response to a question??
/. in many areas in which I consider myself a mere amoeba. Please finish with this pointless excuse for a post. Otherwise come up with something at least remotely intelligent. You are like self-propagating genes with this thing.......
This discussion is about MARS COLONISATION a topic that I would love to here ideas from as I have learnt there are many intelligent and insightful posts to be read on
Naturally select this bastard out....
Peace Love and Mung Beans to the rest of you out there!!!
Sometimes we like to play around, swinger it is!!
Depends what your definition is.............
I have actually been married for 6 years quite happily to a woman, I am a hetero-sexual and always have been always will be I have no interest in the gay lifestyle unlike some of the people that I know. PS. Some of those guy's would probably crack your fucking skull for your point of view......
But perhaps it takes more than the brains of an amoeba to realise that you do not need to be gay to realise that you can defend their lifestyle.
If you are refering to me being a faggot in the traditional English sense then I am certainly not a piece of kindling.... Look it up do you know what a book is??
PS There have been recent studies done to actually show those that are most homophobic do it because they seem to display those same tendancies themselves, they are "revolted" by what they consider abnormal and therefore act out their aggression on others. I am confident in my sexuality, I have been laid and continue to get laid on average 3 times a week (by a woman, sometimes even 2!!).....
If you are a homophobe which you obivously are maybe you are the one that is confused. If this is the case perhaps you should give it a go....you might be the one in denial I know who I am and am comfortable in my hetero-sexual lifestyle are you equally comfortable, if not perhaps try it you might like it!!!
Otherwise you redneck motherfucker fuck you and the whole of your inbred fucking viewpoint....
If there are to many big words here remember look at a book yes they are the ones without pictures in them, yeh the ones you do not need to colour in..............