The OP is essentially saying that there can't possibly be waste anywhere in the NSF budget at that anyone who would even suggest such a thing must necessarily be anti-science.
No, but anyone thinking that random web surfers making fun of individual grants are going to help---is anti-science.
And anyone thinking that chiseling away at the NSF's budget is worthwhile doesn't understand the federal budget too well, either....
bullshit, the three developers I gave (real) example always must work inside company on local network. name one advantage of distributed system for them
Simpler setup, no need to configure a new network service just to get started, much faster history browsing (even on a fast local network), ability to try out lines of development privately without giving up completely on version control for them, ability to keep working when the server goes down, simpler backup of the history (just backup any repo),....
People donate books to libraries because they want to share their love of books.
I donate books to the library fairly regularly. Sure, I love books, and sharing them, but a) I'm just as happy to share them with somebody who really wanted that particular book and paid market price for it as the person who ran across it serendipitously in the library basement sale, and b) I donate mainly to clear space on my shelves, save having to deal with selling them myself, and maybe make the local Friends of the Public Library a few bucks.
Slowly the general public will come to realise that there will be no hidden gems and will stop going.
Agreed that part of the fun of going to these sales is the treasure-hunt aspect, but that's not the only attraction. Sometimes I just want a classic or pulp mystery or whatever, and know that's the kind of thing they'll have for cheap.
The general public will not know the value of things, and more likely pay a premium. Hence the seller loses because he/she deals with informed buyers.
Well, there will also be things that sell more quickly because informed buyers know they're valuable, and that can be a benefit to the seller.
"What modern-day success exists today did so without screwing over a bunch of people in the process?"
Most of the people I know?
Unless you have some bizarre definition of success that doesn't include making a living, doing quality work, contributing to a community, raising healty children, doing things you enjoy, learning about things that interest you....
Here. I'll offer the simplest advice you can get: Stop clicking on stupid shit.
Just by doing that, internet/computer security would be vastly improved.
Eh. The scammers use "stupid shit" as the bait because that's what works. If "intelligent shit" started attracted the most clicks, they'd start using that instead.
Once a single mouse click on an infected link is enough to propagate the link, it's already game over--the choice of bait is a detail.
... degree holders are more dense where people are more dense. Wow, blinding insight.
Yeah. On the other hand, if (for example) you're an employer looking to locate an office near lots of potential employees, degree-holders-per-square-mile might actually be the right number for you.
So why would you have to move to create a concentration of "human educational capital"?
In person-contact with teachers and classmates, physical access to labs, etc., seems useful enough that most people are still educated at physical institutions. And for obvious reasons it's often easier for them to stay nearby after they graduate. And it's therefore to the advantage of employers to locate nearby.
Similarly it's often more effective for coworkers to work physically together. And if you're a company trying to decide where to locate an office, locating it near potential employees--which probably means locating near lots of other companies in your field--may be attractive.
you don't see all those jobs that were outsourced to India requiring that their workers move to North America or Europe.
But they may be required to relocate to Bangalore, for example.
Personally: starting next month I'm working from home with my nearest coworkers hundreds of miles away. But I also live a few minutes from a significant number of the other main developers in my field, who work (also from home) for other companies.
Locality in the age of the internet may turn out to be more complicated than you'd expect.... Instead of leaving people distributed homogeneously across the globe, it may just enable them to clump together in different ways.
"How did these guys get away with it for so long?"
The data is from internal probes. The SEC did in fact know about these cases and was investigating (and dealing with) them, or else we wouldn't know about them.
The fact that they take their time and don't react immediately doesn't necessarily strike me as so surprising. Especially if it's to the point of a firing offense, they probably need to build a pretty good case.
"Is it actually news that ~1% of *any* organization consisting primarily of office workers with internet connections would surf for porn?"
A financial crisis caused the economy to tank. We're now attempting to modify the regulations with the hopes of preventing a recurrence.
The GOP's response apparently is to a) promise very very sincerely not to bail out any more banks next time, and b) blame the whole thing on internet porn.
Good grief. Please don't tell me anyone's going to fall for this.
"As far as anyone can tell, not one of these people were fired for both not doing their job and for using work equipment in a HIGHLY non-work related manner."
From TFA:
"After management informed him that he would lose his job, the employee resigned. "
From another FA (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100423/ap_on_bi_ge/us_sec_porn):
"SEC spokesman John Nester said in a statement Friday that each of the offending employees has been disciplined or is in the process of being disciplined, and some have already been suspended or dismissed."
In fact, the data here is from internal probes, so presumably every one of these records exist because the SEC was considering disciplining someone somehow.
"Skip all that. Use the savings to pay people to attend the city council"
Yeah, that might work--but giving up on local sports may mean giving up on some audience (and hence revenue) as well. (OK, you're not really "giving up" on it, you're turning it over to volunteers, but once you've done that it's no longer clear how you're going to keep the audience--maybe the volunteers would rather go publish themselves once they're doing everything else. My local paper seems to be pursuing a strategy something like this--trying to make themselves into a common portal (annarbor.com) for paid-for reporting and user-contributed content. I don't know how the experiment is working.)
The problem is that the NYT has never given us accurate and factual news.
Um, never? How did something *that* obviously false get mod'ed up to 5?
The NYT is a newspaper that won a Pulitzer Prize for stories that said there was no famine in the Ukraine in the 1930s.
According to, e.g., this article, the Pulitzer was for different work by the same journalist, though the work in question was likely just as shoddy--as has been acknowledged inside and out of the Times since then.
As far as I can tell it's a reputable paper that has (not surprisingly, for a major institution with a long history) occasionally screwed up.
My hometown newspaper had a reporter who would go to all the high school football games, take pictures, and do a writeup on the scores. Really, you're paying someone to do that?
Yeah, I can see how that kind of thing could be "crowdsourced", actually.
I'm more worried about the people that go to, say, local planning commission meetings. It's skilled work to follow that sort of thing and be able to give an interesting factual account. My fear is that the only "volunteer" coverage we'll see of that kind of thing is by people with an axe to grind and without necessarily a great grasp of the basics.
Journalism has killed journalism. Your typical "journalist" these days is a person who rewords a company's press release and sources a relevant picture.
Try reading an actual repuable newspaper.
When was the last time you read an article that included a direct quote?
Err. Last time I went to www.nytimes.com? Really, go do it now and see if any of the top articles fit your description.
For online publications you typically get more journalism from the comments section.
If your idea of an online publication is slashdot or boingboing: fine, but that's not what most people mean by "journalism". You seem to be arguing not that "journalism has killed journalism" but that blogs have killed journalism.
Intel has been tearing apart their Linux graphics stack and rewritting it for the future. For a while, that meant poor performance during the rewrite, but it really is getting better.
As the original poster points out, none of this applies to the GMA500, which is supported by a different driver--a proprietary binary driver, and not a very well-maintained one at that, if reports are true.
In all seriousness, how can you assert that someone only "resorts to a suit" after they have made "serious efforts to resolve the conflict some other way", when there is only ONE SINGLE way they have sought to resolve it, which is to force the company to comply with the license as they have written it
By the time it gets to court, they're going to be asking for more than just compliance with the original license!
Isn't that solely based on a value judgement of the license as 'good', while simply having a different license would have made the SFLC methodology and approach to violaters of it 'evil'?
No. All paths lead to compliance with the license, but not all paths are the same: chances are they started out with private negotiation rather than a suit (or a raid).
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The OP is essentially saying that there can't possibly be waste anywhere in the NSF budget at that anyone who would even suggest such a thing must necessarily be anti-science.
No, but anyone thinking that random web surfers making fun of individual grants are going to help---is anti-science.
And anyone thinking that chiseling away at the NSF's budget is worthwhile doesn't understand the federal budget too well, either....
Who on earth told you this?
It was growth in GDP (inflation)
"Growth in GDP" is not the same thing as "inflation", and in fact real (inflation-adjusted) GDP has also increased since WWII (link)
bullshit, the three developers I gave (real) example always must work inside company on local network. name one advantage of distributed system for them
Simpler setup, no need to configure a new network service just to get started, much faster history browsing (even on a fast local network), ability to try out lines of development privately without giving up completely on version control for them, ability to keep working when the server goes down, simpler backup of the history (just backup any repo), ....
Personally, I thought it was complete overkill for the two-man project we were working on.
With git, setting up a new project is
cd myproj
git init .
git add .
git commit -m "initial commit"
and you're off--no setting up a server. And if you want to share it with one or two people, ssh will do.
I suspect bzr is similar.
So at least for me the low-overhead setup makes them more attractive for small projects too.
I'll admit they require some initial investment to learn, but it's very much worth it.
People donate books to libraries because they want to share their love of books.
I donate books to the library fairly regularly. Sure, I love books, and sharing them, but a) I'm just as happy to share them with somebody who really wanted that particular book and paid market price for it as the person who ran across it serendipitously in the library basement sale, and b) I donate mainly to clear space on my shelves, save having to deal with selling them myself, and maybe make the local Friends of the Public Library a few bucks.
Slowly the general public will come to realise that there will be no hidden gems and will stop going.
Agreed that part of the fun of going to these sales is the treasure-hunt aspect, but that's not the only attraction. Sometimes I just want a classic or pulp mystery or whatever, and know that's the kind of thing they'll have for cheap.
The general public will not know the value of things, and more likely pay a premium. Hence the seller loses because he/she deals with informed buyers.
Well, there will also be things that sell more quickly because informed buyers know they're valuable, and that can be a benefit to the seller.
"What modern-day success exists today did so without screwing over a bunch of people in the process?"
Most of the people I know?
Unless you have some bizarre definition of success that doesn't include making a living, doing quality work, contributing to a community, raising healty children, doing things you enjoy, learning about things that interest you....
Here. I'll offer the simplest advice you can get: Stop clicking on stupid shit.
Just by doing that, internet/computer security would be vastly improved.
Eh. The scammers use "stupid shit" as the bait because that's what works. If "intelligent shit" started attracted the most clicks, they'd start using that instead.
Once a single mouse click on an infected link is enough to propagate the link, it's already game over--the choice of bait is a detail.
... degree holders are more dense where people are more dense. Wow, blinding insight.
Yeah. On the other hand, if (for example) you're an employer looking to locate an office near lots of potential employees, degree-holders-per-square-mile might actually be the right number for you.
So why would you have to move to create a concentration of "human educational capital"?
In person-contact with teachers and classmates, physical access to labs, etc., seems useful enough that most people are still educated at physical institutions. And for obvious reasons it's often easier for them to stay nearby after they graduate. And it's therefore to the advantage of employers to locate nearby.
Similarly it's often more effective for coworkers to work physically together. And if you're a company trying to decide where to locate an office, locating it near potential employees--which probably means locating near lots of other companies in your field--may be attractive.
you don't see all those jobs that were outsourced to India requiring that their workers move to North America or Europe.
But they may be required to relocate to Bangalore, for example.
Personally: starting next month I'm working from home with my nearest coworkers hundreds of miles away. But I also live a few minutes from a significant number of the other main developers in my field, who work (also from home) for other companies.
Locality in the age of the internet may turn out to be more complicated than you'd expect.... Instead of leaving people distributed homogeneously across the globe, it may just enable them to clump together in different ways.
"How did these guys get away with it for so long?"
The data is from internal probes. The SEC did in fact know about these cases and was investigating (and dealing with) them, or else we wouldn't know about them.
The fact that they take their time and don't react immediately doesn't necessarily strike me as so surprising. Especially if it's to the point of a firing offense, they probably need to build a pretty good case.
"Is it actually news that ~1% of *any* organization consisting primarily of office workers with internet connections would surf for porn?"
A financial crisis caused the economy to tank. We're now attempting to modify the regulations with the hopes of preventing a recurrence.
The GOP's response apparently is to a) promise very very sincerely not to bail out any more banks next time, and b) blame the whole thing on internet porn.
Good grief. Please don't tell me anyone's going to fall for this.
"As far as anyone can tell, not one of these people were fired for both not doing their job and for using work equipment in a HIGHLY non-work related manner."
From TFA:
"After management informed him that he would lose his job, the employee resigned. "
From another FA (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100423/ap_on_bi_ge/us_sec_porn):
"SEC spokesman John Nester said in a statement Friday that each of the offending employees has been disciplined or is in the process of being disciplined, and some have already been suspended or dismissed."
In fact, the data here is from internal probes, so presumably every one of these records exist because the SEC was considering disciplining someone somehow.
"I've been to parts of the country without a substantial immigrant population"
Which parts are those, and how did you determine that, for example, immigrants weren't a significant part of the farm labor force?
My memory agreed with yours up to that last bit....
"Skip all that. Use the savings to pay people to attend the city council"
Yeah, that might work--but giving up on local sports may mean giving up on some audience (and hence revenue) as well. (OK, you're not really "giving up" on it, you're turning it over to volunteers, but once you've done that it's no longer clear how you're going to keep the audience--maybe the volunteers would rather go publish themselves once they're doing everything else. My local paper seems to be pursuing a strategy something like this--trying to make themselves into a common portal (annarbor.com) for paid-for reporting and user-contributed content. I don't know how the experiment is working.)
Um, never? How did something *that* obviously false get mod'ed up to 5?
According to, e.g., this article, the Pulitzer was for different work by the same journalist, though the work in question was likely just as shoddy--as has been acknowledged inside and out of the Times since then.
As far as I can tell it's a reputable paper that has (not surprisingly, for a major institution with a long history) occasionally screwed up.
Yeah, I can see how that kind of thing could be "crowdsourced", actually.
I'm more worried about the people that go to, say, local planning commission meetings. It's skilled work to follow that sort of thing and be able to give an interesting factual account. My fear is that the only "volunteer" coverage we'll see of that kind of thing is by people with an axe to grind and without necessarily a great grasp of the basics.
Could you give examples of members of the blog community which are providing excellent (original) journalism?
Try reading an actual repuable newspaper.
Err. Last time I went to www.nytimes.com? Really, go do it now and see if any of the top articles fit your description.
If your idea of an online publication is slashdot or boingboing: fine, but that's not what most people mean by "journalism". You seem to be arguing not that "journalism has killed journalism" but that blogs have killed journalism.
Err. Yes, you can.
Intel has been tearing apart their Linux graphics stack and rewritting it for the future. For a while, that meant poor performance during the rewrite, but it really is getting better.
As the original poster points out, none of this applies to the GMA500, which is supported by a different driver--a proprietary binary driver, and not a very well-maintained one at that, if reports are true.
They settle for nothing less than compliance.
That's what enforcing a license means, yes.
In all seriousness, how can you assert that someone only "resorts to a suit" after they have made "serious efforts to resolve the conflict some other way", when there is only ONE SINGLE way they have sought to resolve it, which is to force the company to comply with the license as they have written it
By the time it gets to court, they're going to be asking for more than just compliance with the original license!
Isn't that solely based on a value judgement of the license as 'good', while simply having a different license would have made the SFLC methodology and approach to violaters of it 'evil'?
No. All paths lead to compliance with the license, but not all paths are the same: chances are they started out with private negotiation rather than a suit (or a raid).
Yes. The SFLC have consistently been proponents of working with violators in private whenever possible; see, for example:
http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2009/11/08/gpl-enforcement.html
If they're resorting to a suit, it's likely only after making serious efforts to resolve the conflict some other way.