confidentiality and trade secret clauses should not apply to him.
But they might apply to people who told him things. If so, and Apple can force him to divulge their names, they can go after those people for damages. That's what the suit seems to be about.
I asked a mathmatical astrononer about that once. Anything inside the event horizon will be drawn into the singularity at the center in seconds at the most.
Alas, there are no green stars. Even if their temperature is such that their radiation peaks there, green has such a narrow band of frequencies that either yellow or blue will always predominate.
As this is a criminal case, the Feds may be able to recover whatever they can of the stolen funds and return it to the victims. That's assuming, of course, that they can find it.
It reads to me like you're free to do the recording.
I'm not saying you're not. All I'm saying is that if the company I worked for found out you were recording, the tech was required to ask you to stop. If you refused, the tech was requird to end the call. You have a legal right to record the call under certain circumstances, but you have no more right to insist that the other party stay on the line than the company does to insist that you continue the call if you don't want it recorded.
That may be so under the law, but it wasn't company policy. Just because they have a legal right to record doesn't mean we have to continue the call if they do. We always have the right to terminate the call for whatever reason we want.
I never call anywhere just to say "Hi! I'm so pleased with your product/service that I just wanted to call and say thanks!", when I call anywhere about something, I"m pissed and I make sure they are bloody well aware of it.
If I get good service on the phone, I'll ask to speak to the manager and tell them. Good service deserves recognition, and managers usually only hear about it when it's bad. Having worked in a call center, I know the mangers like to hear good things about calls.
I keep getting the same tech droid giving wrong answers as before. Typically I'm thinking to myself, if someone is monitoring this call for quality, please speak up and help!
Most call centers have cheat sheets that the techs are expected to follow. The QC people have no tech knowlege and can't tell that when the sheets are wrong, but they can tell if the tech doesn't follow it.
When I did tech support for an ISP, our policy was to terminate the call if the customer was recording and wouldn't stop. We reserved the right to record but refused to allow anybody else to do so. Most places probably have the same policy.
Doesn't sound like you know what a ward is. Basically, in a warded lock, a ward is a part that prevents the wrong key from working. (In a pin or disk lock, the key parts allow only the right key to work.)
Yes, I do know what a ward is; that's why I used the term. However, it might have been a pin lock for all I know. In either case, the point is that there wasn't enough variation in the key patterns.
I remember once, back in the 70's, hearing about a model of car that was prone to this. The key was short, with only a few wards, and there weren't enough sizes for each ward. It was quite possible to find another car of that model and the same color of yours by accident and have your key fit it. Weird! Don't know what they did about it but I've wondered.
Debtor's prison was originally intended to shame wealthy deadbeats into paying their debts. It's only later on that it evolved into incarcerating people with no money until they paid. Just thought you'd like to know.
The analogy also doesn't hold because it isn't like "opening the hood" (though I wonder why you'd open the hood to inspect the brakes, but I digress) and taking a look.
The master cylider for the brake system is under the hood. If you needed to check that, or the level of brake fluid, you'd need to open the hood.
Actually, back when I started, they made sure all employees knew that there was to be no proselytizing on company property, and as far as I could tell, there wasn't. Sky was raised as a Scientologist, but it never seems to have taken.
Earthlink rejected my legit mail because I was running my server on a dynamic IP for cost reasons.
Don't expect me to try to justify what they did, as their anti-spam efforts have always tended to be a bit heavy-handed. Frankly, if it happened after the Mindspring merger, I wouldn't be a bit surprised. The whole mangement seemed to go into PHB mode after that.
I've always been fond of the three Redneck Rampage games. Granted, the clipping was so bad that when somebody died and fell behind something an arm might stick through, but the games were so surrealistic that it just added to the effect. Besides, I always liked the weapons: crossbows with dynamite taped to the quarrels, the ripsaw throwing buzzsaw blades like frizbees and the ever-popular tit-guns. The chicken crossbow quarrels were funny too, but a tad unreliable...
I can't talk about any of the other ISPs, but I was at Earthlink when they sued him. The restraining order prevented him from using our servers to relay his spam. That's all. Of course, now, the Earthlink servers don't allow relaying, so he can't do that anyway unless he had an account with them. (BTW, Earthlink also blocks outgoing port 25 to keep their customers from relaying through other servers.)
This is exactly why I think he might receive either probation or a suspended sentence. What he did was foolish, but I don't think it was malicious. Certainly, he doesn't deserve the maximum sentance in a maximum security prison; if he has to serve time, it'll be in a minimum security facility. Part of any sentence is to deter others, but I doubt anybody's going to try what he did again for fun anyway, so that's already taken care of. I get the impression that you think I was in favor of the 25 years, but if so, read my post again. I'm not.
Show me that guys victims, if he get any jail time then truely the US is not a democracy anymore...
I sympathise with you, but you're wrong. First, there have always been "victimless crimes," and people in prison for commiting them. Second, what he did could have caused a large number of deaths, and should be punished, just for that. Third, your conclusion is a non sequiter, in that the state of democracy in the USA has nothing to do with this.
The thing most of us are overlooking is that he could receive a 25 year sentance, not that he will. That's the maximum, and there's no reason to assume he'll be sentanced to that. I'll not be surprised to hear that he receives either probation or a suspended sentance.
I'm sure he's prefer a straight 25 years to 2000 consecutive 5 year bids.
It's very unlikely he'd be required to serve the terms consecutively, although it's a nice idea. I've never understood why most multiple-offense terms are severd concurrently, unless it's considered "cruel and unusual punishment" when there's not a very good reason for it.
There's ample evidence that the Trojan War took place. Homer wssn't trying to tell straight-forward history, he was making a good action/adventure story out of it. You'd be surprised how much of the Argosy could actually have happened, if you start out with the idea that it was, at least in part, a trading voyage, and some of the details got exagerated over the years.
Adaware also has occasional false positives. It thinks a drerectory under Eudora is for spyware because that's where Eudora itself stores advertisements it downloads. If you nuke the folder, Eudora recreates it. I've got it marked as Ignore.
Atalanta was last alive about, oh, 4000 years ago.>/i>
Atlanta participated in both the Argosy and the Caladonian Boar Hunt. That was about a generation or so before the Trojan War, making it about 3,000 at most. Still, nice thought.
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But they might apply to people who told him things. If so, and Apple can force him to divulge their names, they can go after those people for damages. That's what the suit seems to be about.
I asked a mathmatical astrononer about that once. Anything inside the event horizon will be drawn into the singularity at the center in seconds at the most.
Alas, there are no green stars. Even if their temperature is such that their radiation peaks there, green has such a narrow band of frequencies that either yellow or blue will always predominate.
As this is a criminal case, the Feds may be able to recover whatever they can of the stolen funds and return it to the victims. That's assuming, of course, that they can find it.
I'm not saying you're not. All I'm saying is that if the company I worked for found out you were recording, the tech was required to ask you to stop. If you refused, the tech was requird to end the call. You have a legal right to record the call under certain circumstances, but you have no more right to insist that the other party stay on the line than the company does to insist that you continue the call if you don't want it recorded.
That may be so under the law, but it wasn't company policy. Just because they have a legal right to record doesn't mean we have to continue the call if they do. We always have the right to terminate the call for whatever reason we want.
If I get good service on the phone, I'll ask to speak to the manager and tell them. Good service deserves recognition, and managers usually only hear about it when it's bad. Having worked in a call center, I know the mangers like to hear good things about calls.
Most call centers have cheat sheets that the techs are expected to follow. The QC people have no tech knowlege and can't tell that when the sheets are wrong, but they can tell if the tech doesn't follow it.
When I did tech support for an ISP, our policy was to terminate the call if the customer was recording and wouldn't stop. We reserved the right to record but refused to allow anybody else to do so. Most places probably have the same policy.
Yes, I do know what a ward is; that's why I used the term. However, it might have been a pin lock for all I know. In either case, the point is that there wasn't enough variation in the key patterns.
I remember once, back in the 70's, hearing about a model of car that was prone to this. The key was short, with only a few wards, and there weren't enough sizes for each ward. It was quite possible to find another car of that model and the same color of yours by accident and have your key fit it. Weird! Don't know what they did about it but I've wondered.
They probably did. Alas, even auditing a large program won't always get everything. You do your best and hope you didn't miss anything important.
Debtor's prison was originally intended to shame wealthy deadbeats into paying their debts. It's only later on that it evolved into incarcerating people with no money until they paid. Just thought you'd like to know.
The master cylider for the brake system is under the hood. If you needed to check that, or the level of brake fluid, you'd need to open the hood.
Actually, back when I started, they made sure all employees knew that there was to be no proselytizing on company property, and as far as I could tell, there wasn't. Sky was raised as a Scientologist, but it never seems to have taken.
Don't expect me to try to justify what they did, as their anti-spam efforts have always tended to be a bit heavy-handed. Frankly, if it happened after the Mindspring merger, I wouldn't be a bit surprised. The whole mangement seemed to go into PHB mode after that.
I've always been fond of the three Redneck Rampage games. Granted, the clipping was so bad that when somebody died and fell behind something an arm might stick through, but the games were so surrealistic that it just added to the effect. Besides, I always liked the weapons: crossbows with dynamite taped to the quarrels, the ripsaw throwing buzzsaw blades like frizbees and the ever-popular tit-guns. The chicken crossbow quarrels were funny too, but a tad unreliable...
I can't talk about any of the other ISPs, but I was at Earthlink when they sued him. The restraining order prevented him from using our servers to relay his spam. That's all. Of course, now, the Earthlink servers don't allow relaying, so he can't do that anyway unless he had an account with them. (BTW, Earthlink also blocks outgoing port 25 to keep their customers from relaying through other servers.)
This is exactly why I think he might receive either probation or a suspended sentence. What he did was foolish, but I don't think it was malicious. Certainly, he doesn't deserve the maximum sentance in a maximum security prison; if he has to serve time, it'll be in a minimum security facility. Part of any sentence is to deter others, but I doubt anybody's going to try what he did again for fun anyway, so that's already taken care of. I get the impression that you think I was in favor of the 25 years, but if so, read my post again. I'm not.
I sympathise with you, but you're wrong. First, there have always been "victimless crimes," and people in prison for commiting them. Second, what he did could have caused a large number of deaths, and should be punished, just for that. Third, your conclusion is a non sequiter, in that the state of democracy in the USA has nothing to do with this.
The thing most of us are overlooking is that he could receive a 25 year sentance, not that he will. That's the maximum, and there's no reason to assume he'll be sentanced to that. I'll not be surprised to hear that he receives either probation or a suspended sentance.
It's very unlikely he'd be required to serve the terms consecutively, although it's a nice idea. I've never understood why most multiple-offense terms are severd concurrently, unless it's considered "cruel and unusual punishment" when there's not a very good reason for it.
There's ample evidence that the Trojan War took place. Homer wssn't trying to tell straight-forward history, he was making a good action/adventure story out of it. You'd be surprised how much of the Argosy could actually have happened, if you start out with the idea that it was, at least in part, a trading voyage, and some of the details got exagerated over the years.
Adaware also has occasional false positives. It thinks a drerectory under Eudora is for spyware because that's where Eudora itself stores advertisements it downloads. If you nuke the folder, Eudora recreates it. I've got it marked as Ignore.
Atlanta participated in both the Argosy and the Caladonian Boar Hunt. That was about a generation or so before the Trojan War, making it about 3,000 at most. Still, nice thought.
When I first saw the title of the article, I thought it read "Anti-Microsoft Spyware," and wondered such old news ever got accepted.