Kerry was up by 5 points in the exit polls on election day. The exit polls were incredibly accurate predictors of final results in states without black box machines. In states with black box machines, every single state showed huge variance with the exit polls, and every single variance benefitted Bush.
It's either million to one or billion to one odds, depending on the study) against the way the exit polls variances happened being a coincidence.
We get all the "stories from shitty conservative blogs that have less journalistic ethics than the National Enquirer." We all get FOX News Channel on our cable system.
This claim that there is no evidence there was no fraud is false. The same exit polling that was allowed to be used to prove fraud in the Ukraine election proves fraud in the US elections.
Kerry led in the US exit polls by 5 full points, and the exit polls were surprisingly accurate in non-electronic voting states. In the black box states, every single state exit poll had huge variances, and every single incident of variances benefitted Bush and hurt Kerry.
Do you know what the odds are of Bush benefitting by evey single huge variance being a coincidence? Millions to billion to one odds, depending on the study you read.
This is the second straight national election Bush has pulled million to billion to one "coincidences" to become President.... which make the odds of Bush legitimately winning both elections in the area of a quadrillion to 1 against Bush.
One first hand witness account is enough to show cause to start an official investigation and put this in fromt of a Grand Jury.
Stating that there is enough evidence to start an official investigation is far different than stating that a charge is "proven." The standard has been met to start asking questions officially, and the official investigation need to begin.
Bush was 5 points down in the exit polls election night. We wake up the next morning, and Bush has supposedly won, all the exit polls are 5 points off, all the exit poll error coincidentally go against Kerry, the variances happen to be in different states where electronic voting machines just happen to also be?
Exit poll varience from official election returns is considered proof positive of voter fraud in every single country but the US. Bush even demanded the Ukranian elections be overturned becasue the exit polls varied from official returns.
There is no difference between the tone of this article and the tone of the articles in which intelligence insiders said there was no threat from Iraqi WoMDs. Those intelligence insiders were absolutely correct. There were no Iraqi WoMD.
What you call "urban legends" of US voter fraud is backed by the exact same standard as the charges of voter fraud made by the Bush State Department in Ukraine.
That standard is exit polling data. Kerry beat Bush by 5 points in the 2004 US election exit polls.
Let's all conveniently forget that exit polls that vary from the actual election returns are used as damning proof of election fraud in every single nation on the face of the Earth but the United States, and that the US Government just used the exit polling data to demand the "official" election returns in Ukraine be overturned.
All this in a country that has been proven to have gone to war for a lie, a threat of weapons of mass distruction that did not exist.
Translation: The new test of whether evidence is reliable is whether it benefits the neo-cons or not. Anything good for neo-cons is "true", anything that challenges neo-cons if "false".
One of the most interesting quotes in SF history came out of what was otherwise one of the goofiest episodes of the Stargate franchise.
In the set up for this episode, the character Gen. Hammond said the Air Force allowed the show Wormhole Xtreme, an obvious TV show knockoff of the Stargate program, because if the Stargate program was ever discovered, the fake Wormhole Xtreme TV show could be used as a vehicle for plausible deniabilty to discount real evidence of the "real" Air Force Stargate program.
In other words, if you want to protect a secret program, create an incredible lie that is easily disproven that is fairly close to the actual truth.
Does the Air Force use such techniques? About 10 years ago, Testors Models got the specs leaked to it about a top secret Air Force scramjet spy plane program called Project Aurora. Since then, every time there was a strange sighting of high speed aircraft, that Testors Model mess got brought up... until a couple of weeks ago, anyway. A couple of weeks ago the Air Force said released informantion that a scramjet hit Mach 10 and set the world air speed record. That's pretty similar to the 10 year time frame that the SR-71 was actually in service as a spy plane, and when the Air Force started releasing data to the public about the plane.
Ahhh... yes... the professional editorial boards that made the decisions to run the stories all those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and never questioned the evidence shown once. Not one editor at any of the above organizations was fired for completely blowing that story
With professional efforts like that about a subject like, say, declaring war on a foreign nation and killing tens of thousands of civilians in bombing missions, it's hard to see how complete amateurs could screw up reporting the story any worse than the pros did.
I think you've displayed your complete cluelessness on anthing close to the subject matter being discussed for me to understand that fact, but in case the rest of those playing along at home don't quite get it, go ahead and throw in that update on current possessors of "cooties" for everyone.
Let Amerstam go out there and send us back updates from natural disasters as they happen. He can stand right next to Jim Cantore and take do live updates for slashdot via webcam.
Amerstam... ooops.... he really needs to hold on better than that... he could could use all that technical skill he claims and help us learn about the impacts of natural disasters... oooo...he should be quicker on his feet in those trailer parks. They generate a lot of debris during landfall... but with huge weather disaters expected to increase with global warming, we'll need... ooof... good thing palm trees aren't very dense, walk it off Amerstam... we'll need better data and a wider variety of data about... ouch... I didn't realize the Epcot Center dome would get airborne and still hug the ground like that... wider variety of data from the these storms as they happen so that we learn how to plan evacuations better... look out for the... eeewwwwww.... Tugboat.
All across the country, people are reporting turnout that won't just break records, it will leave the records shattered and smoldering
A couple of official notes I've seen... Oregon now predicting 90% turnout. Nebraska opened the day predicting 55% turnout. By 9 am, they upgraded prediction to 75% turnout.
Voter turnout most heavy in areas considered Democratic strongholds.
ESPN also show the replays of the call in question and the replays proved the ref was right and the player had not set properly in the formation and was properly penalized for it. That's what ESPN's NFL analysts said.
Looks like you're the one missing obvious clues... like the replays.
The Clinton tech and tax policy was set in 1993. Not one Republican supported the economic and tax package that created the tech boom. It passed completely on votes in Congress by Democrats.
Yes, the technology was maturing in university labs, but all that research needed capital to be implimented industry-wide. The Clinton high tech tax cuts got the money out there to have all that fiber optic cable installed nationwide that the internet now runs on, and all those servers and equipment to high tech start ups through tax breaks to venture capital for high tech.
The NASDAQ had it's total value go up 20 times in the bubble, then sanity took hold and the NASDAQ gave a little more than half that 20 fold increase in value back. What's left. Clinton policies that directly lead to massive total increases in NASDAQ stock valuation.
Clinton tax policy supporting high tech innovation caused the tech boom. some people took the tech boom too far and thought the tech party would never end. That's silliness. I remember Lou Dobbs saying on his show that the tech boom would last forever. He really said that. Booms don't last forever. However, it sure created a lot of permanent increases capital value in the US economy.
Wrong. There's lists and lists and lists of school districts that have tried to properly apply for that money that were refused by the Bush administation.
The internet business explosion was STARTED by Clinton tax policy and the tax breaks he gave to high tech start up and high tech capital improvements.
Who gives a fuck what the unemployment rate was in 1996. It's one of those neo-con, look-over-here-not at the facts CrapPoints (Trademark - Republican National Committee) that neo-cons throw up to distract from the truth.
TRUTH: Clinton policies created 23 million jobs. Bush policies lost more jobs than any president since Hoover.
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Kerry was up by 5 points in the exit polls on election day. The exit polls were incredibly accurate predictors of final results in states without black box machines. In states with black box machines, every single state showed huge variance with the exit polls, and every single variance benefitted Bush.
It's either million to one or billion to one odds, depending on the study) against the way the exit polls variances happened being a coincidence.
It you can't see that the exact same thing happened in the US as in the Ukraine, you're in denial.
The exact same type of polls that proved voter fraud in the Ukraine proved voter fraud in the US.
We get all the "stories from shitty conservative blogs that have less journalistic ethics than the National Enquirer." We all get FOX News Channel on our cable system.
This claim that there is no evidence there was no fraud is false. The same exit polling that was allowed to be used to prove fraud in the Ukraine election proves fraud in the US elections.
Kerry led in the US exit polls by 5 full points, and the exit polls were surprisingly accurate in non-electronic voting states. In the black box states, every single state exit poll had huge variances, and every single incident of variances benefitted Bush and hurt Kerry.
Do you know what the odds are of Bush benefitting by evey single huge variance being a coincidence? Millions to billion to one odds, depending on the study you read.
This is the second straight national election Bush has pulled million to billion to one "coincidences" to become President.... which make the odds of Bush legitimately winning both elections in the area of a quadrillion to 1 against Bush.
One first hand witness account is enough to show cause to start an official investigation and put this in fromt of a Grand Jury.
Stating that there is enough evidence to start an official investigation is far different than stating that a charge is "proven." The standard has been met to start asking questions officially, and the official investigation need to begin.
Bush was 5 points down in the exit polls election night. We wake up the next morning, and Bush has supposedly won, all the exit polls are 5 points off, all the exit poll error coincidentally go against Kerry, the variances happen to be in different states where electronic voting machines just happen to also be?
Exit poll varience from official election returns is considered proof positive of voter fraud in every single country but the US. Bush even demanded the Ukranian elections be overturned becasue the exit polls varied from official returns.
Wake up. You're living in denial.
There is no difference between the tone of this article and the tone of the articles in which intelligence insiders said there was no threat from Iraqi WoMDs. Those intelligence insiders were absolutely correct. There were no Iraqi WoMD.
What you call "urban legends" of US voter fraud is backed by the exact same standard as the charges of voter fraud made by the Bush State Department in Ukraine.
That standard is exit polling data. Kerry beat Bush by 5 points in the 2004 US election exit polls.
Let's all conveniently forget that exit polls that vary from the actual election returns are used as damning proof of election fraud in every single nation on the face of the Earth but the United States, and that the US Government just used the exit polling data to demand the "official" election returns in Ukraine be overturned.
All this in a country that has been proven to have gone to war for a lie, a threat of weapons of mass distruction that did not exist.
Translation: The new test of whether evidence is reliable is whether it benefits the neo-cons or not. Anything good for neo-cons is "true", anything that challenges neo-cons if "false".
One of the most interesting quotes in SF history came out of what was otherwise one of the goofiest episodes of the Stargate franchise.
In the set up for this episode, the character Gen. Hammond said the Air Force allowed the show Wormhole Xtreme, an obvious TV show knockoff of the Stargate program, because if the Stargate program was ever discovered, the fake Wormhole Xtreme TV show could be used as a vehicle for plausible deniabilty to discount real evidence of the "real" Air Force Stargate program.
In other words, if you want to protect a secret program, create an incredible lie that is easily disproven that is fairly close to the actual truth.
Does the Air Force use such techniques? About 10 years ago, Testors Models got the specs leaked to it about a top secret Air Force scramjet spy plane program called Project Aurora. Since then, every time there was a strange sighting of high speed aircraft, that Testors Model mess got brought up... until a couple of weeks ago, anyway. A couple of weeks ago the Air Force said released informantion that a scramjet hit Mach 10 and set the world air speed record. That's pretty similar to the 10 year time frame that the SR-71 was actually in service as a spy plane, and when the Air Force started releasing data to the public about the plane.
Ahhh... yes... the professional editorial boards that made the decisions to run the stories all those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and never questioned the evidence shown once. Not one editor at any of the above organizations was fired for completely blowing that story
With professional efforts like that about a subject like, say, declaring war on a foreign nation and killing tens of thousands of civilians in bombing missions, it's hard to see how complete amateurs could screw up reporting the story any worse than the pros did.
I think you've displayed your complete cluelessness on anthing close to the subject matter being discussed for me to understand that fact, but in case the rest of those playing along at home don't quite get it, go ahead and throw in that update on current possessors of "cooties" for everyone.
The rules are simply really... first one to make comparisons to Nazis or call someone an idiot in a post, loses.
Sounds like what GE, Disney, Viacom, and Newscorp, and Time-Warner do, huh?
Let Amerstam go out there and send us back updates from natural disasters as they happen. He can stand right next to Jim Cantore and take do live updates for slashdot via webcam.
Amerstam... ooops.... he really needs to hold on better than that... he could could use all that technical skill he claims and help us learn about the impacts of natural disasters... oooo...he should be quicker on his feet in those trailer parks. They generate a lot of debris during landfall... but with huge weather disaters expected to increase with global warming, we'll need... ooof... good thing palm trees aren't very dense, walk it off Amerstam... we'll need better data and a wider variety of data about... ouch... I didn't realize the Epcot Center dome would get airborne and still hug the ground like that... wider variety of data from the these storms as they happen so that we learn how to plan evacuations better... look out for the... eeewwwwww.... Tugboat.
The villian in that episode was Robert Davi. Now there's an actor with range. From Bond villian to Ally Walker's boss in the series Profiler.
But... could that mean the secret power behind Colm Meaney and the Jenni is really "the Jack of all Trades" hunting a whole new Sam?
I live here in Oregon, too. I also got mailed out my ballot the day after I recieved it.
Oregon Sec. of State office still refers to total ballots recieved as 'turnout.'
All across the country, people are reporting turnout that won't just break records, it will leave the records shattered and smoldering
A couple of official notes I've seen...
Oregon now predicting 90% turnout.
Nebraska opened the day predicting 55% turnout. By 9 am, they upgraded prediction to 75% turnout.
Voter turnout most heavy in areas considered Democratic strongholds.
ESPN also show the replays of the call in question and the replays proved the ref was right and the player had not set properly in the formation and was properly penalized for it. That's what ESPN's NFL analysts said.
Looks like you're the one missing obvious clues... like the replays.
You Republicans invented that bullshit. Sorry. Try again.
That's a lie. When all the ballots in FLA were tabulated by newspapers, Gore wone by 20,000 votes.
You're trying to pick and choose from a couple of the partial recounts. Sorry. That's crap, and you know it's crap.
The Clinton tech and tax policy was set in 1993. Not one Republican supported the economic and tax package that created the tech boom. It passed completely on votes in Congress by Democrats.
Yes, the technology was maturing in university labs, but all that research needed capital to be implimented industry-wide. The Clinton high tech tax cuts got the money out there to have all that fiber optic cable installed nationwide that the internet now runs on, and all those servers and equipment to high tech start ups through tax breaks to venture capital for high tech.
The NASDAQ had it's total value go up 20 times in the bubble, then sanity took hold and the NASDAQ gave a little more than half that 20 fold increase in value back. What's left. Clinton policies that directly lead to massive total increases in NASDAQ stock valuation.
Clinton tax policy supporting high tech innovation caused the tech boom. some people took the tech boom too far and thought the tech party would never end. That's silliness. I remember Lou Dobbs saying on his show that the tech boom would last forever. He really said that. Booms don't last forever. However, it sure created a lot of permanent increases capital value in the US economy.
Wrong. There's lists and lists and lists of school districts that have tried to properly apply for that money that were refused by the Bush administation.
Your claim is a lie.
The internet business explosion was STARTED by Clinton tax policy and the tax breaks he gave to high tech start up and high tech capital improvements.
Who gives a fuck what the unemployment rate was in 1996. It's one of those neo-con, look-over-here-not at the facts CrapPoints (Trademark - Republican National Committee) that neo-cons throw up to distract from the truth.
TRUTH: Clinton policies created 23 million jobs. Bush policies lost more jobs than any president since Hoover.