Wow, I guess scientists could learn from your methodology then.
Well to help future scientist: I am 30 and lots of fillings, ditto my sis, and we got fluorine all the way. Bro in law, same age, drinks lotsa coke (which we don't), raised in germany with no fluorine, perfect teeth.
Seriously, I'll just say (1) I'm a chemical engineer with 10 years of chemistry courses that all say the same thing -- briefly that Fluoride is more toxic than lead and almost as toxic as arsenic, (2) fluorine is the most reactive element known to man, (3) the average dental program has zero or one chemistry course in it, whereas I took about a dozen higher ed. chem. courses, (4) everyone can research the issue for themselves, (5) click this http://www.just-think-it.com/the-f-db.htm [just-think-it.com] to find out if your water supply is poisoned.
I would look at the recent dvd + and - format war: it ended with producers needing to support both formats and consumers needing to upgrade to read some media or pay a lil more for new devices supporting the two variants.
IMHO producers are not interested in a clear winner for a format war. If there is no clear winner the first drives supporting hd or blu ray only will be obsolete when the hybrid drives begin popping up at reasonable price.
those people who state that MacOS X hacking is of little interest to the hacking community because the Mac has little market presence should pay attention to the draw this challenge precipitated.
I completely agree with you. a 4,5% share seems low but many hackers would get a terrific ego boost by being able to shut up once for all the mac fanboys. Also some attacks on windows rely on unpatched machines with this and that service running and reachable through firewalls, which could well mean an attack on the 10% or less of the total of windows machines which in turns makes like an 8-6% or even less share. Crackers still take time to engineer them, though.
what on earth is the point of making a big fuss over them, if not to mislead people?
Implying malevolence is a bit of a stretch IMO: when one puts something online the first number you have is the number of downloads from your page. All the rest, market penetration, user satisfaction, installed base, total number of downloads from all the other sources, are in fact estimates.
So I see no reason why FF crew shouldn't feel great for it. If I had a piece of OSS that popular, I'd probably do the same. Of course I know next to nothing about who's behind Firefox, I tend to like 'em though... just judging the tree from the fruit.
This explains yesterday's slashdot lil hiccup: thousands of male geeks autoslashdotting your user page. I'd gladly queue up, but I have a different religion than yours, I am a space 1999 fan. It could never work out.
Oh. I thought I was paranoid, but I get anti-microsoft (aka truthful) posts modded "overrated" often, and that avoids metamoderation IIRC. If they get modded "flamebait" or "troll" it's ok with me. It's a perfectly valid opinion.
Thank you for the info, in fact I was using some macos like theme for windows with gnome. At the time (that is when xfce4 went out) there were no cursor themes, though, and gnome had chosen the white cursor. So now i use xfce as window manager and for its clone of gnome terminal, konqueror as file manager, k3b and kate, and for all the rest gnome apps.
I guess exit is in the file menu for historical reasons. There used to be a quit command under file menu in virtually every old macOS app. With OSX apple correctly chose to move that command into the apple menu.
BTW i am actually using XFCE4 because of its old macos usability bonuses: 1) black cursor, easier to spot on mostly white windows 2) custom layout for the window buttons, the close button on the left, the others on the right.
Those are 10 reasons to buy vista IF you are currently running XP. As a Linux user who has always the option to open a maconlinux OSX window, the only reason would be the collaborative environment. All the other reasons were available to me on linux osx or both, since at least two years ago. Heh, the two way firewall:)
Well sharing is a solution, but a perfectly working excel shared document is nowhere as flexible as one available to internet clients. Its not always feasible or economical to get an excel environment to remotely add review spreadsheet data (Id have to dual boot into osx and get an office license, for example. And, would sharing work with office-mac?)
And what about other web clients, like PDAs? Net cafes kiosks?
Also it requires every purchaser of a copy to be a registered one, it requires the purchaser to be very careful not to have the copy stolen or lose it, and it might also lead a hacked watermark to accuse an innocent purchaser.
From this kind of news I infer that: - Intel fights AMD with trade agreements, so it must be lagging technologically. - Skype is not to be trusted for serious communication needs. A company that accepts such dirty tricks is likely to have already sold sensitive communication to national governments or big business or both.
So, what are your reasons for wanting the company to switch to Linux, really?
Well removing malware from the company's workstations isn't fun... Anyway, why doesn't he speak with management about the huge productivity boost they can obtain with linux? (what productivity boost am I talking about? Try feeding the employees a Linux desktop without Solitaire and Mines...)
Can you also just put them in a nfs share and mount that on your remote hosts?
There might be problems when two machines mess with the "partial" subdirectory, which containes unfinished downloads. Of course that can be solved (remounting something over partial is the first thing that comes to mind) but then i'd choose some apt tools instead.
I am taking you too seriously maybe;)
Anyway, first of all i'd use aptitude instead of apt-get. It has similar command line options (aptitude update, aptitude [dist-]upgrade), it has nice ways to resolve dependency problems, and it keeps a log of the upgrades (more precisely of the upgrade requests, IIRC).
Then, having each box doing an update on its own is an unnecessary waste of band. There is stuff like apt-proxy. Another trick is to copy the.deb packages (ONLY the.deb packages) from the/var/cache/apt/archive of an updated machine to the one to be updated. Apt recognizes it already have a local copy of the packages and refrains from obtaining it again from the network. Handy when installing a slightly old debian version on a new partition.
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I AM the IT department, you insensitive clod!
That aside, you might want to set your wise-ass detector's threshold a little lower ;-)
sorry but that would negatively impact many other discussions (windows has lower TCO? haha nice one, dude)
Wow, I guess scientists could learn from your methodology then.
Well to help future scientist: I am 30 and lots of fillings, ditto my sis, and we got fluorine all the way. Bro in law, same age, drinks lotsa coke (which we don't), raised in germany with no fluorine, perfect teeth.
Seriously, I'll just say (1) I'm a chemical engineer with 10 years of chemistry courses that all say the same thing -- briefly that Fluoride is more toxic than lead and almost as toxic as arsenic, (2) fluorine is the most reactive element known to man, (3) the average dental program has zero or one chemistry course in it, whereas I took about a dozen higher ed. chem. courses, (4) everyone can research the issue for themselves, (5) click this http://www.just-think-it.com/the-f-db.htm [just-think-it.com] to find out if your water supply is poisoned.
Gee...
Ahem, the places that get the worst exposure to sun rays (angle and no sun for around 6 months) are the poles.
I would look at the recent dvd + and - format war: it ended with producers needing to support both formats and consumers needing to upgrade to read some media or pay a lil more for new devices supporting the two variants.
IMHO producers are not interested in a clear winner for a format war. If there is no clear winner the first drives supporting hd or blu ray only will be obsolete when the hybrid drives begin popping up at reasonable price.
those people who state that MacOS X hacking is of little interest to the hacking community because the Mac has little market presence should pay attention to the draw this challenge precipitated.
I completely agree with you. a 4,5% share seems low but many hackers would get a terrific ego boost by being able to shut up once for all the mac fanboys. Also some attacks on windows rely on unpatched machines with this and that service running and reachable through firewalls, which could well mean an attack on the 10% or less of the total of windows machines which in turns makes like an 8-6% or even less share. Crackers still take time to engineer them, though.
Mod parent up, please.
what on earth is the point of making a big fuss over them, if not to mislead people?
Implying malevolence is a bit of a stretch IMO: when one puts something online the first number you have is the number of downloads from your page. All the rest, market penetration, user satisfaction, installed base, total number of downloads from all the other sources, are in fact estimates.
So I see no reason why FF crew shouldn't feel great for it. If I had a piece of OSS that popular, I'd probably do the same.
Of course I know next to nothing about who's behind Firefox, I tend to like 'em though... just judging the tree from the fruit.
My understanding unix rocks with clusters and similar , linux and windows far less.
This list says you should apt-get upgrade your understanding.
It's not an Ol'time religion!
I warn you, we throw stones to anybody who dares to imply we're old fashioned.
This explains yesterday's slashdot lil hiccup: thousands of male geeks autoslashdotting your user page. I'd gladly queue up, but I have a different religion than yours, I am a space 1999 fan. It could never work out.
Oh. I thought I was paranoid, but I get anti-microsoft (aka truthful) posts modded "overrated" often, and that avoids metamoderation IIRC. If they get modded "flamebait" or "troll" it's ok with me. It's a perfectly valid opinion.
This is not because of anything you did...
Those googlish infidels better start to acknowledge the power of slashdot *grin*
I dunno, globs seem so cryptic and unfriendly. I'd go for "^[((gnu/){0,1}li)(u)]n[iu]x$" instead
Thank you for the info, in fact I was using some macos like theme for windows with gnome. At the time (that is when xfce4 went out) there were no cursor themes, though, and gnome had chosen the white cursor. So now i use xfce as window manager and for its clone of gnome terminal, konqueror as file manager, k3b and kate, and for all the rest gnome apps.
Oops. Anyway it's in the right place now. I should fire up osx more often I guess.
I guess exit is in the file menu for historical reasons. There used to be a quit command under file menu in virtually every old macOS app. With OSX apple correctly chose to move that command into the apple menu.
BTW i am actually using XFCE4 because of its old macos usability bonuses: 1) black cursor, easier to spot on mostly white windows 2) custom layout for the window buttons, the close button on the left, the others on the right.
I agree. I can't think about any other plausible reason for that (c) notice to be inserted with the message.
Those are 10 reasons to buy vista IF you are currently running XP. As a Linux user who has always the option to open a maconlinux OSX window, the only reason would be the collaborative environment. All the other reasons were available to me on linux osx or both, since at least two years ago. Heh, the two way firewall :)
Well sharing is a solution, but a perfectly working excel shared document is nowhere as flexible as one available to internet clients. Its not always feasible or economical to get an excel environment to remotely add review spreadsheet data (Id have to dual boot into osx and get an office license, for example. And, would sharing work with office-mac?)
And what about other web clients, like PDAs? Net cafes kiosks?
Also it requires every purchaser of a copy to be a registered one, it requires the purchaser to be very careful not to have the copy stolen or lose it, and it might also lead a hacked watermark to accuse an innocent purchaser.
From this kind of news I infer that:
- Intel fights AMD with trade agreements, so it must be lagging technologically.
- Skype is not to be trusted for serious communication needs. A company that accepts such dirty tricks is likely to have already sold sensitive communication to national governments or big business or both.
So, what are your reasons for wanting the company to switch to Linux, really?
Well removing malware from the company's workstations isn't fun... Anyway, why doesn't he speak with management about the huge productivity boost they can obtain with linux? (what productivity boost am I talking about? Try feeding the employees a Linux desktop without Solitaire and Mines...)
posting your phone number on /.
:)
It might not be HIS number, nudge nudge, wink wink
Can you also just put them in a nfs share and mount that on your remote hosts?
There might be problems when two machines mess with the "partial" subdirectory, which containes unfinished downloads. Of course that can be solved (remounting something over partial is the first thing that comes to mind) but then i'd choose some apt tools instead.
I am taking you too seriously maybe ;)
.deb packages (ONLY the .deb packages) from the /var/cache/apt/archive of an updated machine to the one to be updated. Apt recognizes it already have a local copy of the packages and refrains from obtaining it again from the network. Handy when installing a slightly old debian version on a new partition.
Anyway, first of all i'd use aptitude instead of apt-get. It has similar command line options (aptitude update, aptitude [dist-]upgrade), it has nice ways to resolve dependency problems, and it keeps a log of the upgrades (more precisely of the upgrade requests, IIRC).
Then, having each box doing an update on its own is an unnecessary waste of band. There is stuff like apt-proxy.
Another trick is to copy the