Actually you should use Occam's razor to eliminate the preposterous notion that evolution is opposed/alternative to creation.
For all the gods, invented or otherwise, that bear the attribute "creator of all visible and invisible things", creation includes the creation of time. Which is past, present, and future.
For a guy who creates time, it's irrelevant that a man takes 1 hour or one trillion years to surface in the universe, or if the process that makes it appear *is* random (random, by definition without a determined cause. cause, by definition dependent from time. time, by definition, internal to the supposed creation) or predetermined from the start, or a patch applied on the fly by said guy.
So tell me again why the beginning of a book supposedly inspired by an eternal god should necessarily talk about how things become instead of who made them. Science is just a specific branch of knowledge, and it's valuable THAT WAY.
The alternative where creation vs. evolution has any sense is a timeline IN WHICH a god creates. Therefore the timeline is superior to god. Never heard about that in most religions. Now, if guys thousand years ago are more logically consistent than slashdotters which keep repeating fake atheism learned in bestsellers, it tells nothing about the existence of gods, but tells much about the state of the contemporary collective minds.
Wake up, you need NOTHING to support atheism. Because the other camp's requirement for FAITH implicitly make your position of unbeliever justified as an option.
What the current fake atheism is doing, is exciting hunger for proof and evidence. Sorry there is no possible evidence from an EXISTING divine plane, because the evidence must be experienced, so it must enter our plane. So there is no possible evidence from a POSSIBLY EXISTING divine plane, and it's indistinguishable from sufficiently advanced technology, or sorcery (that is knowledge applied to other dimensions, if existing).
This approach is not in the interest of atheism, not in the interest of Truth, so not in the interest of believers too. Who remains?
Sigh, the SOP when trying to make a product prevail over the competition is twofold:
A - make your product better B - make the competition's product worse
And the takedown notices flood logically follows.
If you still think it's far fetched ask yourself: did MS ever use piracy of its own products for its own advantage in term of market share? answer, yes.
Fact is, hanlon's razor contradicts occam's razor: it gives a predetermined weight over interpretation of facts that is proven irrelevant by the very existence of the term malice. If only incompetence explains things, there is no need for razors, if incompetence and malice explain things, judge the likelihood of both instead of discarding either a priori, it's that simple.
Had you asked me, before I read comments: "do you think that microsoft likewise censors Bing?" I'd have answered nope, it'll happen only AFTER they beat google in the search biz, which is not any time soon.
Let's put it like that: a conservative guy who tries to optimize the system he has inherited won't make news, won't blow budgets on spectacular projects. a guy like this one will start new stuff, talk to media and maybe have some project succeeding.
Which one will the people who build enterprises on tax money want in office?
This guy simply stated his function in a too explicit fashion.
If you get to realize that money is control only when most people are in need of it (it doesn't matter how much the rich have, it matters how much you subtract to the middle/lower classes), then the action and philosophy of today's rulers becomes very rational.
> drivers for old peripherals are already installed and work cleanly
The scanners I got for free from win users beg to differ. But ok, my anecdotes are statistically irrelevant. Everybody should compare any story to his own experience anyway.
It still reminds me last time that I had to install a printer and win7 made me wait 20 mins to get the full list.
Recent CUPS on linux is a PITA too, having to wait for it to identify a printer, but I wait less than 60 secs.
I often don't remove windows, so i can use win fonts without troubles (i put symlinks of the win partition's FONTS mounted as read only into user's.fonts folder, so that no questionable copy of copyrighted font files occurs).
Never had any problem with dual booting.
Possibly because I rarely boot the main windows partition...
I call BS on GP getting more work done in win (xp, vista, 7, whatever). You must live in a parallel universe where AV never expires or get in the way, Java never updates, drivers for old peripheral always install and work cleanly, clueless colleagues never let the browser (yes, chrome included) redirect to a different home or search page, and application updates never require rebooting. For some days I worked out of a live cd distro, reconfiguring the printers every time I booted up, and yet I was still more productive than under windows. It's all about familiarity. Linux is not more familiar than win, but a particular distro of linux sure might.
If I cared about an OS I sell, I'd make sure people no OEM crap ends up in system sold with my sticker on it. OEM must come to me for a license? then they better personalize their offering with clearly labeled and uninstallable add ons.
Since MS and the hardware makers form a system which wants you to buy new hardware/sw each year, antivirus, antispyware, registry cleaner, decrappifier, bloat and similar things happen.
What you said can be simply achieved by booting to the Forth interpreter powered openfirmware console present on macintoshes a couple of decades ago. I'm afraid mac oldtimers are cooler than you according to your metric.
Sure, but by the time the immortal guy has to reinstall windows 2120 because of driver issues, the rest of his existence will be devoted on how to commit suicide.
I thought experienced people went for the distro that has your fave GUI and packaging system. If you like gnome2, kde3, fluxbox, even gnustep, you can have it.
It's not like the mere skinning of the official OS to resemble the oldest iterations like you have on windows.
Yep, the idea of abstract mechanisms *governing* the evolution of systems sounds inspired by Plato and quite unscientific. Science is about abstracting and formalizing those mechanisms, not giving them a godlike status according to unprovable assertions on reality. Leave that to philosophers, they gotta make a living too.
A thought experiment about trademarks being undefendable would be even more interesting.
First of all, ads would become pointless.
Then, consumer would have to check the product or trust the issuer. How do you check the quality of food, electronics? unwieldy. So there would rise up a class of middlemen whose only asset is trust.
It would be a step backwards, but I'm not sure that we progressed in the right direction regarding the dominion of symbols over minds. They made a lot of sense when producers were humans that cared about their business, but those have been swallowed up for the most part by ruthless competition.
I'd give victims of justice a credit. Imprisoned for 2 years? you get 2 years of credit, to commit any crime which has the median jail time of 2 or less years. Only limitation, the victims of such automatically condoned crime must be chosen among those who are directly involved with the trial. 2 years means you can beat em up, take their car to the manufacturer and see if it withstands a crash test, hijack their dog, stuff like this. That should make people in charge more responsible.
Of course it will never work because this wasn't an error in the first place but was intimidation, or to be more precise, an act of terror. And the system would simply react to such laws by faking proof in better ways.
You are missing part of the equation. We are developing computer power to serve the interests of PHBs and above.
So, the wonderful achievement of science, like many before this like tcp/ip, will end up in something like:
*clippy 2020 pops up*
- "hey, Assassins|jon, I notice your brain is fatigued after the 5 games you played in a row. Let me switch you from "COD XXXII- the Dominicans strike again" to "Teletubby landscapes III...".
- FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
- "... and report you for doubleplus ungood thinking. Enjoy the game!"
> I'm sorry but win 8 is a BAD design and I'm just glad I've gotten the majority of my customers as well as my family onto Win 7 so we can all just skip win 8 completely
1 MS shows a toy GUI next windows 2 People say "DAMN" and flock to upgrade their aging XP desktops for win 7 3 no ??? 4 Profit!!! (MS has found a way to get people off XP, I never said they weren't good at marketing)
Once xp is dead and poor devs have made some win8 apps that help the smartphone division, win8.2 or win9 will get back to normal.
That happens because one expect the product of a megacorporation who bundles its stuff on 99.99% of all PC sold to run rings around a loosely coupled community that started operating almost two decades later and gives away its stuff.
And pardon me if I don't find the portable os feature interesting, most pc systems had the so called disk operating system in a 5.25" floppy, back in the 80s.
I is indeed a story of police doing regular police works (false alarms are unavoidable). Given that it is the third slashdot story about police/tsa behaving normally that I read recently, i wonder if slashdot is trolling us. (not the site itself, of course, but some guys strangely interested in us having our eyes roll when we see police or TSA mentioned)
here the highlight. if disk.mbr.has_grub
for part in disc.partitions
if part.type.not_ours
chair.throw() # dammit... let's do something about it
part.raw_write(offset=random(1,part.size),data=random(1,255)) # voila'
end if
end for end if
Slashdot Mirror
Actually you should use Occam's razor to eliminate the preposterous notion that evolution is opposed/alternative to creation.
For all the gods, invented or otherwise, that bear the attribute "creator of all visible and invisible things", creation includes the creation of time. Which is past, present, and future.
For a guy who creates time, it's irrelevant that a man takes 1 hour or one trillion years to surface in the universe, or if the process that makes it appear *is* random (random, by definition without a determined cause. cause, by definition dependent from time. time, by definition, internal to the supposed creation) or predetermined from the start, or a patch applied on the fly by said guy.
So tell me again why the beginning of a book supposedly inspired by an eternal god should necessarily talk about how things become instead of who made them. Science is just a specific branch of knowledge, and it's valuable THAT WAY.
The alternative where creation vs. evolution has any sense is a timeline IN WHICH a god creates. Therefore the timeline is superior to god. Never heard about that in most religions.
Now, if guys thousand years ago are more logically consistent than slashdotters which keep repeating fake atheism learned in bestsellers, it tells nothing about the existence of gods, but tells much about the state of the contemporary collective minds.
Wake up, you need NOTHING to support atheism. Because the other camp's requirement for FAITH implicitly make your position of unbeliever justified as an option.
What the current fake atheism is doing, is exciting hunger for proof and evidence.
Sorry there is no possible evidence from an EXISTING divine plane, because the evidence must be experienced, so it must enter our plane. So there is no possible evidence from a POSSIBLY EXISTING divine plane, and it's indistinguishable from sufficiently advanced technology, or sorcery (that is knowledge applied to other dimensions, if existing).
This approach is not in the interest of atheism, not in the interest of Truth, so not in the interest of believers too. Who remains?
Sigh, the SOP when trying to make a product prevail over the competition is twofold:
A - make your product better
B - make the competition's product worse
And the takedown notices flood logically follows.
If you still think it's far fetched ask yourself: did MS ever use piracy of its own products for its own advantage in term of market share? answer, yes.
Fact is, hanlon's razor contradicts occam's razor: it gives a predetermined weight over interpretation of facts that is proven irrelevant by the very existence of the term malice. If only incompetence explains things, there is no need for razors, if incompetence and malice explain things, judge the likelihood of both instead of discarding either a priori, it's that simple.
Had you asked me, before I read comments: "do you think that microsoft likewise censors Bing?" I'd have answered nope, it'll happen only AFTER they beat google in the search biz, which is not any time soon.
Hanlon's razor, people, use it to shave balls.
Let's put it like that:
a conservative guy who tries to optimize the system he has inherited won't make news, won't blow budgets on spectacular projects.
a guy like this one will start new stuff, talk to media and maybe have some project succeeding.
Which one will the people who build enterprises on tax money want in office?
This guy simply stated his function in a too explicit fashion.
If you get to realize that money is control only when most people are in need of it (it doesn't matter how much the rich have, it matters how much you subtract to the middle/lower classes), then the action and philosophy of today's rulers becomes very rational.
> drivers for old peripherals are already installed and work cleanly
The scanners I got for free from win users beg to differ. But ok, my anecdotes are statistically irrelevant. Everybody should compare any story to his own experience anyway.
It still reminds me last time that I had to install a printer and win7 made me wait 20 mins to get the full list.
Recent CUPS on linux is a PITA too, having to wait for it to identify a printer, but I wait less than 60 secs.
I often don't remove windows, so i can use win fonts without troubles (i put symlinks of the win partition's FONTS mounted as read only into user's .fonts folder, so that no questionable copy of copyrighted font files occurs).
Never had any problem with dual booting.
Possibly because I rarely boot the main windows partition...
I call BS on GP getting more work done in win (xp, vista, 7, whatever). You must live in a parallel universe where AV never expires or get in the way, Java never updates, drivers for old peripheral always install and work cleanly, clueless colleagues never let the browser (yes, chrome included) redirect to a different home or search page, and application updates never require rebooting.
For some days I worked out of a live cd distro, reconfiguring the printers every time I booted up, and yet I was still more productive than under windows.
It's all about familiarity. Linux is not more familiar than win, but a particular distro of linux sure might.
complimenting myself for the most grammatically and semantically inaccurate post of the year.
If I cared about an OS I sell, I'd make sure people no OEM crap ends up in system sold with my sticker on it. OEM must come to me for a license? then they better personalize their offering with clearly labeled and uninstallable add ons.
Since MS and the hardware makers form a system which wants you to buy new hardware/sw each year, antivirus, antispyware, registry cleaner, decrappifier, bloat and similar things happen.
What you said can be simply achieved by booting to the Forth interpreter powered openfirmware console present on macintoshes a couple of decades ago.
I'm afraid mac oldtimers are cooler than you according to your metric.
> Windows is our work, and if it were perfect, we wouldn't have jobs.
Yo dawg, I herd you like the broken windows fallacy,
so I broke windows.
Sure, but by the time the immortal guy has to reinstall windows 2120 because of driver issues, the rest of his existence will be devoted on how to commit suicide.
I thought experienced people went for the distro that has your fave GUI and packaging system. If you like gnome2, kde3, fluxbox, even gnustep, you can have it.
It's not like the mere skinning of the official OS to resemble the oldest iterations like you have on windows.
Yep, the idea of abstract mechanisms *governing* the evolution of systems sounds inspired by Plato and quite unscientific. Science is about abstracting and formalizing those mechanisms, not giving them a godlike status according to unprovable assertions on reality. Leave that to philosophers, they gotta make a living too.
A thought experiment about trademarks being undefendable would be even more interesting.
First of all, ads would become pointless.
Then, consumer would have to check the product or trust the issuer. How do you check the quality of food, electronics? unwieldy. So there would rise up a class of middlemen whose only asset is trust.
It would be a step backwards, but I'm not sure that we progressed in the right direction regarding the dominion of symbols over minds. They made a lot of sense when producers were humans that cared about their business, but those have been swallowed up for the most part by ruthless competition.
I'd give victims of justice a credit. Imprisoned for 2 years? you get 2 years of credit, to commit any crime which has the median jail time of 2 or less years. Only limitation, the victims of such automatically condoned crime must be chosen among those who are directly involved with the trial. 2 years means you can beat em up, take their car to the manufacturer and see if it withstands a crash test, hijack their dog, stuff like this.
That should make people in charge more responsible.
Of course it will never work because this wasn't an error in the first place but was intimidation, or to be more precise, an act of terror. And the system would simply react to such laws by faking proof in better ways.
But boy would it be cool.
As much as my comment history shows a clear anti-MS stance, I agree. Possibly Ballmer wasn't evil enough.
And definitely, his chairs missed too many targets.
You are missing part of the equation. We are developing computer power to serve the interests of PHBs and above.
So, the wonderful achievement of science, like many before this like tcp/ip, will end up in something like:
*clippy 2020 pops up*
- "hey, Assassins|jon, I notice your brain is fatigued after the 5 games you played in a row. Let me switch you from "COD XXXII- the Dominicans strike again" to "Teletubby landscapes III...".
- FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
- "... and report you for doubleplus ungood thinking. Enjoy the game!"
> I'm sorry but win 8 is a BAD design and I'm just glad I've gotten the majority of my customers as well as my family onto Win 7 so we can all just skip win 8 completely
1 MS shows a toy GUI next windows
2 People say "DAMN" and flock to upgrade their aging XP desktops for win 7
3 no ???
4 Profit!!! (MS has found a way to get people off XP, I never said they weren't good at marketing)
Once xp is dead and poor devs have made some win8 apps that help the smartphone division, win8.2 or win9 will get back to normal.
That happens because one expect the product of a megacorporation who bundles its stuff on 99.99% of all PC sold to run rings around a loosely coupled community that started operating almost two decades later and gives away its stuff.
And pardon me if I don't find the portable os feature interesting, most pc systems had the so called disk operating system in a 5.25" floppy, back in the 80s.
> we can build a new social network that actually cares about its users.
there, FTFY
The best social network i came across was called the internet, IIRC it was version 1.0
> namely, that they were putting the code in read-only devices
without making the source available under the terms of the gpl, I guess?
> The productivity per user has never been higher
There were no software patents, so the point is very debatable.
I is indeed a story of police doing regular police works (false alarms are unavoidable). Given that it is the third slashdot story about police/tsa behaving normally that I read recently, i wonder if slashdot is trolling us. (not the site itself, of course, but some guys strangely interested in us having our eyes roll when we see police or TSA mentioned)
apparently a justin bieber joke had already been done. Sry, I'll do lady gaga next time.
> In compounds where certain idiots used the LRAD repeatedly, the detainees eventually learned to ignore it.
Luckily, the guards didn't have any justin bieber CD lying around, or mass suicide would have ensued.
here the highlight.
if disk.mbr.has_grub
for part in disc.partitions
if part.type.not_ours
chair.throw() # dammit... let's do something about it
part.raw_write(offset=random(1,part.size),data=random(1,255)) # voila'
end if
end for
end if