We can also boycott whoever tries that on Free Software. Computer literate persons know already why attacking OSS is a vile act. It's not like SCO got very much sought after.
As for the topic: ESR has some valid points but hey, it's Free Software. Those who agree with him can taint their stack no problem. I live perfectly well with free formats and can help on free areas without hampering the ESR party in any way.
The objection i can do to ESR is: if one looks beyond the FUD, Linux has been a success so far in the impossible mission of being alternative to a ruthless monopolist. Why change strategy? are we experiencing a popularity crisis? does ESR expect one?
> Well, computers get old. They get slow
Yep, windows ones: The winxp at work, one year, started getting slow. I must do defrag, AV full check, maybe reinstall from scratch and hope it's not the latest updates that slowed the thing down to make me switch to Vista (no way).
The MacOS at home, vintage 91 and 97, are as fast as they were at the beginning. Some disk fragmentation, some more inits at startup, normal. Dunno about OSX as i had only one version.
Linux kernel has markedly improved performance, so the debian laptop like 10% or more fast then the 2.4kernel in 2002 or so. Some parts like launching an iptables script, have become twice as fast. Add booting from an external firewire disc and i have gained another 20%.
Note that the mac machines have at least 100x the number of installed stuff during their life, and linux machine gets an average 10 mb of updates per day tracking the debian unstable repos, so the number of installed stuff is 1000x.
But it's the first thing I thought. Red hat rising? Could be the Novell deal that make potential Novell clients flock to alternatives or face another possible "SCO-the-kamikaze-company" case. Only, it seems too early to have affected RH sales in the 3rd quarter.
Not bad for a testadicazzo. Back to topic, most people equate easy with familiar. Moreover, they never experienced other OS and they don't even know where the os is in relation to the apps.
Choose whatever UI usability metrics you want, compare some working with Office and windows with openoffice and most used linux desktop environments. Even if OO's look is not integrated at all with the desktop it works with, Office is far less rewarding in terms of user experience. Yesterday i was asked to do something about an office document containing a form, so with editing locked out. No feedback whatsoever. I fixed that by going around what i thought relevant options were, apparently changing nothing, but something was evidently changed because the doc become editable. Come on.
Never mind that, grandparent's example is just too crazy: if an organization could get away with keeping a large number of women hostages, they'd rather abduct every mother in law, and get paid billions by not releasing them.
You haven't used SUSE recently, have you? I admit I never did. As a debianist i'm used to bugs being everything but random behaving. They're resilient to a full system reinstall, and mostly cross platform. There are bugs because I track the "unstable" version.
Thank you, pal. Now that I fully realize the imperfection of my metaphor, I humbly rephrase it as: "This is like owning a Mercedes and have it serviced by a car rentals company who lends vehicles featuring the chassis of an armoured BMW and the engine of a kia 1.1 and assists its stranded motorists for hefty additional fees".
embracextendextinguish seems more appropriate. Weird feelings aside, it's clear Microsoft wants to associate itself with the idea of linux and Open source stacks. Otherwise they would have done the sensible thing: having Novell customers contact specialized Novell support.
This is like having a Mercedes and have it serviced by BMW.
> [Hanlon's razor]: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
This razor doesn't cut: stupidity can adequately explain everything.
...sites can display an error message to IE7 users that tells them their browser is defective and that in order for them to keep prices low, they will need to upgrade their web browser to Firefox... Good idea, but i'd say not "defective", but "deliberately denying small businesses the status of legitimate web sites". That's the truth. BTW, what if somebody got certified somehow, and then hosted a portal for businesses he trusts giving them the green light? I guess certification contract explicitly forbids that in the first 10 lines of the agreement:)
Uh, it said it was an article for non-techies. And I say it's FROM non-techies.
Oh yeah, and the article is meant to be a JOKE! Slashdotters just don't do humor I guess? Slashdotters just don't RTFA, besides, my post had a joke too.
1. Your computer will probably crash a lot or at least reboot for no apparent reason but most likely due to some patch you got through an automated update which you are told to do for security reasons because apparently security and stability are incompatible.
Ok, these guys must have no aptitude for system administration.
>I'm a.NET dev so having to set up web servers on a Linux box aint my favourite passtime... leave the politics outside, it's my paycheck not yours... but I had a need to test a RoR app I'm working on for both Windows and Linux, which quickly became a decision to make it Linux only...
see, it's not a matter of politics:D Thanks for the comment, I hope i'll have never to discuss ror+mongrel+nginx vs lighttpd-fcgi: the tongue's gonna end all knotted up.
Federal reserve, BCE... all owned by a network of private banks. They print the money. Normal banks lend each other money, use fractional reserve, (from wikipedia: "Fractional-reserve banking refers to the common banking practice of issuing more money than the bank holds as reserves. Banks in modern economies typically loan their customers many times the sum of all deposits they hold.")
And money is not backed by gold. Money is essentially paper which is trusted to have value, and those who print this paper essentially from a private, self regulating organization. They literally can make how much money they need. Why should they be interested in having more paper? they're interested in doing something with it: get things, property, power.
Don't forget lighttpd+fcgi if you deploy ROR on linux. For a single ROR app it's trivial to set up, didn't try running more. I don't know how it compares to mongrel.
> The gadgets are so much nicer in Vista than in OS X.
subjective but i can concede it NP
>They're easier to manage and they work more smoothly.
If you think something you used for a weekend is easier to manage than your main environment, which is incidentally has the best UI integration i've seen so far (did not see vista), then vista is absolutely amazing. Pity that i don't see many people, not even microsoft astroturfers, underlining this concept.
> The Vista user interface is absolutely beautiful from an eye candy point of view, and yet it doesn't seem to take any significant performance hit.
does not as compared to what? vista without aero?
> Now if only Linux worked this well....
Did vista and main office apps get to unify the keyboard shortcuts among them? They must have covered a lot of ground to be usable as mac or a gnome-kde suite of desktop and apps. They also must have started serious internationalization, so if somebody comes with a german windows misbehaving i'm able to open a session in english or italian for os and to try and understand what's the problem. Or i can boot a live cd to do home banking with reduced risks.
Vista does all that? no? then linux remains the dream come true for me. G'bye.
Come on big brother! If'n you're going to know everything about me please dont make me fill out all the damn forms in triplicate! many things in life acquire a logic explanation using this axiom: banks want your property, bureaucracy wants your time.
if people get what they deserve for running a Server application on a Desktop OS. That was offensive: i run postgresql and apache on a debian desktop just fine.
people get what they deserve for running a Server application on a Desktop OS.
With all due respect, RTFA:
(Before any more of you fire off an outraged e-mail informing me that Vista doesn't run SQL Server, go back and read the above paragraphs again: I'm talking about SQL Server 2005 Express, which is the desktop counterpart of SQL Server - not the server version.)
I can't help but wonder if people get what they deserve for running a desktop application on a windows desktop OS.
Besides, it's not very scalable software if the server and desktop versions have different degrees of compatibility with the same OS... (those confusing server and desktop with server and client please read instead: normal and crippled)
That the PS3 would be produced in big numbers with few and fixed hardware configurations, a mac like integration. It would be a good trojan horse to give console buyers, which probably buy consoles not to have the hassles of optimizing the pc to run games, that computing can be painless as running my linux desktop is. That is, once you get past the hurdle of getting a screen that lets you play, see tv, and surf the web, or configuring a dual head setup, one for tv and play games, blu rays (if the format catches up) and occasional browsing, one monitor for pc like use.
Actually i don't ask for more ram, just expandable one.
That's what I did. For free in a "scratchpad wiki" at http://wikia.com/. If you have to specify sensitive data, network services details, run a wiki yourself or look for specialized hosting.
Of course i'm still the only one reading the wiki:)
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We can also boycott whoever tries that on Free Software. Computer literate persons know already why attacking OSS is a vile act. It's not like SCO got very much sought after.
As for the topic: ESR has some valid points but hey, it's Free Software. Those who agree with him can taint their stack no problem. I live perfectly well with free formats and can help on free areas without hampering the ESR party in any way.
The objection i can do to ESR is: if one looks beyond the FUD, Linux has been a success so far in the impossible mission of being alternative to a ruthless monopolist. Why change strategy? are we experiencing a popularity crisis? does ESR expect one?
Waiting means risking somebody else finds the same bug and gets all credit (pun intended).
> Well, computers get old. They get slow Yep, windows ones: The winxp at work, one year, started getting slow. I must do defrag, AV full check, maybe reinstall from scratch and hope it's not the latest updates that slowed the thing down to make me switch to Vista (no way). The MacOS at home, vintage 91 and 97, are as fast as they were at the beginning. Some disk fragmentation, some more inits at startup, normal. Dunno about OSX as i had only one version. Linux kernel has markedly improved performance, so the debian laptop like 10% or more fast then the 2.4kernel in 2002 or so. Some parts like launching an iptables script, have become twice as fast. Add booting from an external firewire disc and i have gained another 20%. Note that the mac machines have at least 100x the number of installed stuff during their life, and linux machine gets an average 10 mb of updates per day tracking the debian unstable repos, so the number of installed stuff is 1000x.
But it's the first thing I thought. Red hat rising? Could be the Novell deal that make potential Novell clients flock to alternatives or face another possible "SCO-the-kamikaze-company" case. Only, it seems too early to have affected RH sales in the 3rd quarter.
Not bad for a testadicazzo. Back to topic, most people equate easy with familiar. Moreover, they never experienced other OS and they don't even know where the os is in relation to the apps.
Choose whatever UI usability metrics you want, compare some working with Office and windows with openoffice and most used linux desktop environments. Even if OO's look is not integrated at all with the desktop it works with, Office is far less rewarding in terms of user experience. Yesterday i was asked to do something about an office document containing a form, so with editing locked out. No feedback whatsoever. I fixed that by going around what i thought relevant options were, apparently changing nothing, but something was evidently changed because the doc become editable. Come on.
Never mind that, grandparent's example is just too crazy: if an organization could get away with keeping a large number of women hostages, they'd rather abduct every mother in law, and get paid billions by not releasing them.
Thank you, pal. Now that I fully realize the imperfection of my metaphor, I humbly rephrase it as: "This is like owning a Mercedes and have it serviced by a car rentals company who lends vehicles featuring the chassis of an armoured BMW and the engine of a kia 1.1 and assists its stranded motorists for hefty additional fees".
embracextendextinguish seems more appropriate. Weird feelings aside, it's clear Microsoft wants to associate itself with the idea of linux and Open source stacks. Otherwise they would have done the sensible thing: having Novell customers contact specialized Novell support.
This is like having a Mercedes and have it serviced by BMW.
Now Novell will have to introduce random behaving bugs in his packages lest the microsoft support guys feel disoriented.
> [Hanlon's razor]: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. This razor doesn't cut: stupidity can adequately explain everything.
...sites can display an error message to IE7 users that tells them their browser is defective and that in order for them to keep prices low, they will need to upgrade their web browser to Firefox... Good idea, but i'd say not "defective", but "deliberately denying small businesses the status of legitimate web sites". That's the truth.BTW, what if somebody got certified somehow, and then hosted a portal for businesses he trusts giving them the green light? I guess certification contract explicitly forbids that in the first 10 lines of the agreement
Oh yeah, and the article is meant to be a JOKE! Slashdotters just don't do humor I guess? Slashdotters just don't RTFA, besides, my post had a joke too.
Ok, these guys must have no aptitude for system administration.
Doesn't the release of Vista and the deal with Novell count as potential criminal activity for next years?
*ducks*
>I'm a .NET dev so having to set up web servers on a Linux box aint my favourite passtime... leave the politics outside, it's my paycheck not yours... but I had a need to test a RoR app I'm working on for both Windows and Linux, which quickly became a decision to make it Linux only...
:D
see, it's not a matter of politics
Thanks for the comment, I hope i'll have never to discuss ror+mongrel+nginx vs lighttpd-fcgi: the tongue's gonna end all knotted up.
I find your blog entry very interesting, I'll install apache and tinker a little :) thank you
Federal reserve, BCE... all owned by a network of private banks. They print the money. Normal banks lend each other money, use fractional reserve, (from wikipedia: "Fractional-reserve banking refers to the common banking practice of issuing more money than the bank holds as reserves. Banks in modern economies typically loan their customers many times the sum of all deposits they hold.")
And money is not backed by gold. Money is essentially paper which is trusted to have value, and those who print this paper essentially from a private, self regulating organization. They literally can make how much money they need. Why should they be interested in having more paper? they're interested in doing something with it: get things, property, power.
Don't forget lighttpd+fcgi if you deploy ROR on linux. For a single ROR app it's trivial to set up, didn't try running more. I don't know how it compares to mongrel.
> The gadgets are so much nicer in Vista than in OS X. subjective but i can concede it NP >They're easier to manage and they work more smoothly. If you think something you used for a weekend is easier to manage than your main environment, which is incidentally has the best UI integration i've seen so far (did not see vista), then vista is absolutely amazing. Pity that i don't see many people, not even microsoft astroturfers, underlining this concept. > The Vista user interface is absolutely beautiful from an eye candy point of view, and yet it doesn't seem to take any significant performance hit. does not as compared to what? vista without aero? > Now if only Linux worked this well.... Did vista and main office apps get to unify the keyboard shortcuts among them? They must have covered a lot of ground to be usable as mac or a gnome-kde suite of desktop and apps. They also must have started serious internationalization, so if somebody comes with a german windows misbehaving i'm able to open a session in english or italian for os and to try and understand what's the problem. Or i can boot a live cd to do home banking with reduced risks. Vista does all that? no? then linux remains the dream come true for me. G'bye.
That was offensive: i run postgresql and apache on a debian desktop just fine.
With all due respect, RTFA:
I can't help but wonder if people get what they deserve for running a desktop application on a windows desktop OS. Besides, it's not very scalable software if the server and desktop versions have different degrees of compatibility with the same OS... (those confusing server and desktop with server and client please read instead: normal and crippled)
That the PS3 would be produced in big numbers with few and fixed hardware configurations, a mac like integration. It would be a good trojan horse to give console buyers, which probably buy consoles not to have the hassles of optimizing the pc to run games, that computing can be painless as running my linux desktop is. That is, once you get past the hurdle of getting a screen that lets you play, see tv, and surf the web, or configuring a dual head setup, one for tv and play games, blu rays (if the format catches up) and occasional browsing, one monitor for pc like use.
Actually i don't ask for more ram, just expandable one.
That's what I did. For free in a "scratchpad wiki" at http://wikia.com/. If you have to specify sensitive data, network services details, run a wiki yourself or look for specialized hosting.
:)
Of course i'm still the only one reading the wiki