ISECOM's Top 10 Real Computer Crimes
thelordx writes "ISECOM, the Institute for Security and Open Methodologies, has just posted their Top 10 Real Computer Crimes for 2007 and Beyond. This list runs the gambit from poorly designed patches to chlamydia! It's entertaining, but also scary, as many of us could fall victim to some or all of them."
#11. Incredible run-on sentences that are in a difficult-to-read font and are not punctuated and sometimes written in the second person familiar and sometimes they changed tense and ended illogically disconnected from their premises even though you read them through to the end.
John
I don't know much about ISECOM, but aside from being virtually indecipherable reading, I don't find their list: 1) to be crimes (necessarily) and/or b) credible.
Consider #7 (a short and sweet one):
I have had more distaste for the banking industry over the last ten years... but banks are in a competitive market (so far), and are fairly tightly regulated. Their internet-enabled "things" may or may not save them money, a lot of times maybe not, but more fairly would be described as poorly implemented and hardly worth paying for. Banks, OTOH, are allowed to charge for their services, poorly implemented or not.
Also, consider "crime" #9:
Consider it not so much for considering as much as for just plain interpreting it... aside from the fact it's a multi-runon (I think) sentence and it's a hundred words (give or take), I'm not sure what it's saying.
This article probably shouldn't have been posted. (Nor, I guess, should this post... sigh.)
Doesn't the release of Vista and the deal with Novell count as potential criminal activity for next years?
*ducks*
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11. ISECOM using run on sentences on just about every point in that article making it impossible to read, leading to people who have competent english skills to go insane from the lack of a breaking point even though all ISECOM has to do is to look between the comma and the slash keys and press that damn button once or twice during the duration of thier insane rants that don't really make any sense anyway.
Many /.ers are victims of an STD? How did that happen?
If you must moderate, please moderate as irrelevent, not something bad, because I'm sure someone will find this interest
Ok, these guys must have no aptitude for system administration.
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"It's entertaining, but also scary, as many of us could fall victim to some or all of them."
Wow - entertaining, scary AND the possibility of victimization! All this story needs is some popcorn and gratuitous sex!!!
For the record - the story is neither entertaining nor scary, and just because you're stupid enough to fall prey doesn't mean the general population is in the same boat.
Sweeping generalizations, unrealistic scenarios, and poorly written run-on sentences. This sounds like it was written by a 12-year old girl. Thanks for the heads up on yet another organization to completely ignore in the future.
Worst. List. Ever.
I think my brain just screamed from the horrible, horrible sentence structure. What, was this written by a seven year old?
Vista.
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
Come on... That's like saying, "Something will probably go wrong because someone will mess something up, and it's not my fault, and I can't do anything about it, and in fact, I have no idea what I'm talking about."
...or was that article a complete toss-up of run-ons and fragments?
From what I could understand from the article, the title doesn't match up. This list seems more like a joke than a real list. I was expecting stuff like Klez (1999, I think), Melissa, ILoveU, "Hacked by Chinese," etc. Instead I get somewhat opinionated and controversally-worded (at best) topics that really make this read a waste.
Or maybe that was just modern art.
FLASHING TEXT ads on slashdot's front page didn't make the list...
wtf, seriously.
For those who aren't familiar with OpenBSD, it's the most secure open source UNIX implementation. It's been engineered from the ground-up over the past decade to maximize security, through the use of continual code audits, OpenSSH, a security-enhanced Apache HTTPD fork, and other safety-first practices.
Off-hand, OpenBSD would have outright prevented items 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, and 10. The other items do not apply to OpenBSD (ie. falling for email-related fraud).
This article just keeps talking in one incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one could interrupt it was really quite hypnotic.
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(Tagged justkeepstalkinginoneincrediblyunbrokensentencemo
Did you ever notice that *nix doesn't even cover Linux?
They said, "expect that bad people are happy to do bad things to them just like if you leave kids running around in public places unattended then bad people may do bad things to them as well with the odds basically being the same for all of it all happening."
Well, since the actual odds of anything happening to your children even if you were irresponsible enough to leave them "running around in public places unattended" are practically nil, I guess we're ok then.
That *is* what they're trying to say here, right?
ttttt
1) the slashdot moderators got this story and did not have much time to get it out so they skimped on trivial bits like reading the article and so they just submitted it and if you read it you know why I am typing this way.
2) this story is a huge joke and everyone thought it was serious because it was on a purported security site with an official sounding acronym like isecom but if you have any sense at all you can see that its clearly a joke.
Ok, it hurts writing like that.
blah blah blah
What was "this" article about, exactly? It made no sense, whatsoever. How are these "crimes"? What are the top 10 of? Why in the hell was this piece of crap posted?
See, Slashdot is just another blog now. A big one. An old one. But now, it's just another plain ol' vanilla blog. Blogs live and die on popularity, and the popularity is generally related to the quality of the articles posted. If Slashdot continues down this long, editorial spiral of shit for much longer, I'm about to strike out to find some better reading.
This is pathetic.
I now have this saved as the moment when slashdot jumped the shark. Now to see if I can find any prior art...
DON'T! Really, for just this once, it's okay not to RTFA! It's the stupidest thing I've seen linked from /. in a long time. I can only assume ScuttleMonkey hates us and posted this to make us suffer.
For the love of god please don't RTFA! It hurts.
Waking Up - There must be a better way to start the day.
Getting Chlamydia requires intimage physical contact; I don't think there is much risk there for Slashdot members.
I think the word is GAMUT.
Googled "chlamydia"? Hmm? Hhhhmmmmm?
worst article ever
calling all destroyers
let scuttlemonkey post any article he wants to slashdot
calling all destroyers
Check out the "about us" section, original name of the group was the "Ideahamster Organization." Just think about the acronym for a second. Sound it out. I...See...C(u)m. One big joke to fool around with the Slashdot crowd, and probably a few other news blogs too. Don't be surprised if you see this on Fark or digg...
I love how the "Institute for Security and Open Methodologies" proudly displays a website that appears (at least for me) to be broken in Firefox 2.0.
I dug out IE from the Start Menu (ugh) and hmm....appears to be fixed. Perhaps this "Institute" should practice what I assume it preaches.
khasim (12/9/06): In a blind taste test, more people preferred Coke over the Pepsi that I had previously pissed in.
Worst article ever.
This is /. You are assuming that someone has gotten close enough for sexual contact. Never happens; not here.
I can see how the run-on sentences were on purpose, but surely the bad spelling and grammar were not. Perhaps it will be blamed on spyware or microsoft.
Who needs enemies?
> This list runs the gambit from poorly designed patches to chlamydia!
Since TFA sucks so badly it seems redundant to criticize the original posting, however I couldn't resist.
Surely it's "runs the gamut" not "runs the gambit". Unless, of course, you really meant to say that it "controls the stratagem".
Why are people criticising the article as if it is serious...it's obviously a joke. The run-on sentences, the crazy associations (bruised knee!) etc...it's funny! I suppose every person has a different sense of humour (I know people who think that "Little Britain" is funny!) but I'm surprised that people mistook it for a real article.
I like my coffee the way I like my women - roasted and ground up into little tiny pieces.
You are using your laptop in the toilet and then the toilet comes to life and eats your laptop and then you fight the toilet with a whip Indiana Jones style and then it wins and eats you and belches out the words 'Who's the boss?!' and then it wins an Emmy Award and becomes president of the United States of America.
Makes about as much sense.
from what i can tell, "thelordx" has submitted two stories: both of which are about ISECOM's stuff. I wonder if there's any affiliation......
top 10 most horrible lists that the editors automatically post because it's the end of the year and has "top 10" in it?
My bet is fairly high.
I just wasted your mod points! HA!
How about the crime that was the Star Wars Holiday Special and especially the unofficial website that says everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about it!? Anyone have a full copy of this 1977 special kicking around? For example, I found this Star Wars cartoon on YouTube.
Using a run-on sentence one time can be a useful humor device to get a point across. If they had done it just once, it would have been very funny. Ten times, however, was annoying and not so funny.
-- Will program for bandwidth
Its painful to see so many /.ers completely missing the sarcasm in both the /. entry and the article.
Americans can be so tiring sometimes(flushes karma).
A tadpole is a pollywog
...and they have...boobies (not 12 year old girls of course, except if you're a 12 year old boy!).
Quack, quack.
It's still up, who's paying the bills! :P
Quack, quack.
Site is formerly the "Ideahamster Organization".
Dollars to doughnuts the webmaster just celebrated his 20th birthday.
I think Slashdot readers are safe.
Vignette:
The one thing none of us has enough of is time, and most of these concern, at the very least, a theft of time that is happening on a massive scale, and pervades online computing. In fact, judging by the posts, these thefts and frauds seem to be taken for granted by rather too many folks here.
- (Fraud) There is money to be made in insecure, unstable software, and the hours people spend dealing with it is, apparently, inconsequential. (At least to people here?)
- (Shoddy workmanship) That whizbang jillion GB drive you got for a song? -- won't last long!
- (Racketeering) **AAs be watchin', you be dodgin' -- more time, and emotion, wasted.
- (Criminal trespass, possible burglary, vandalization) The botz gots ya.
- etc.
(Sheesh. I kinda liked TFA, for once.)Wow. That was some of the worst grammar I have EVER read. and I read H.P. Lovecraft!
Having read that list, I don't think any of them are likely to happen to me.
1. Unlikely. If my computer ever crashes, it does so for a reason. The software I am using has been independently audited. I've read the Source Code of some of it myself.
2. Unlikely. I know how to use locate.
3. Unlimited traffic. Static IP. Anything less is not a proper internet connection.
4. Bloody unlikely. I use a web browser, not a virus magnet. That's on top of an Operating System which is immune to viruses, spyware and adware -- by design.
5. I know how to turn off Bluetooth. So does anyone who has to pay for their electricity by the joule.
6. It's right there in the Terms and Conditions of my bank account: We will never ask you for personal information via the Internet. And it means what it says.
7. See 6. Anyway, there are only two ways my bank could add an "internet-enabled" service I'd actually use: let me take a photo of a pile of pound notes and coins, upload it and pay it into my account; or let me print pound notes on my own printer.
8. I don't buy software, I download it using apt-get. What is a CD key?
9. Bit far-fetched. Anyway, if anybody's going to be selling off the toner cartridges, it's me!
10. Unlikely. I don't travel by air anyway.
Je fume. Tu fumes. Nous fûmes!
Dudes, I think we have proof the tag system is functioning correctly, and should now be introduced for me.
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(doorbell)
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POLICEMAN: What, love?
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( Chris Morris, Blue Jam. Fixit Girl )
It is about "REAL" computer crimes in which case it deals with people who care about technology in other ways than probably the normal Slashdot crowd. It is not exactly meant to be ha-ha funny or even all that sarcastic even though some of it can be. It is a collection of stream-of-thought "crimes" as seen by less technical people but do include technology. These are the complaints you can hear and see out in the "real" world where people are more paranoid of their phone getting ripped off (maybe rightly so) than of next-gen phone viruses. It actually does a good job at making fun of all those top 10 and prediction lists that are so full of themselves while also showing the widening gap of how we view security between technical people and the regular people we sell products and services to.
Ok, now we can post any piece of junk in text format.
After this one, enything is possible, maybe some poetry or cook instructions....
The only thing worse than the below-average attempt at humor in this article is the sheer number of slashdot people who don't even get it is a joke in the first place (even if the joke isn't that funny). Seriously, get out and get some air.
The 2006 'zonk' award for lamest post & article...
Also, consider "crime" #9: [...]
What? That's one of the biggest crimes in today's IT world! Do you have any idea how much money is lost annually due to the sweet girl from procurements with the pink-laced keds getting caught selling toner cartridges on E-bay which she stole from someone's office printer and she tells the boss that she didn't know it was from there because he gave it to her and when they go to investigate they find some work documents on his personal USB key drive that he needed to move files to another computer in a department with a printer that still had toner along with a file full of MP3s and spreadsheet full of numbers he'd been toying with to see if it's feasible to start his own competing business?
Entire companies have gone bankrupt because the sweet girl from procurements with the pink-laced keds gets caught selling toner cartridges on E-bay which she stole from an important worker's office printer and she tells the boss that she didn't know it was from there because he gave it to her and when they go to investigate they find some work documents on his personal USB key drive that he needed to move files to another computer in a department with a printer that still had toner along with a file full of MP3s and spreadsheet full of numbers he'd been toying with to see if it's feasible to start his own competing business.
The sweet girl from procurements with the pink-laced keds gets caught selling toner cartridges on E-bay which she stole from your office printer and she tells the boss that she didn't know it was from there because you gave it to her and when they go to investigate they find some work documents on your personal USB key drive that you needed to move files to another computer in a department with a printer that still had toner along with a file full of MP3s and spreadsheet full of numbers you'd been toying with to see if it's feasible to start your own competing business is a serious crime!
USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
Wow.
Most of the posts in this thread apparently were made by cretans.
The article in question was obviously written as humor.
The article in question was indeed funny.
The long sentences are a device to show impatience, to show that the writer's mind is working faster than his typing fingers. (Has any of you ever heard the Old Philospher? Not the same, but a similar device is used: successive questions.)
To top it off, some posters even found this thread as an opportunity to bash Microsoft!?! (I'm beginning to believe that most viruses, trojans and worms are written by *nix creeps in a misguided effort to prove that Microsoft is evil and that users of Microsoft products are stupid for using those products.)
Fata viam invenient.
I emailed that to myself and spamassassin and bogofilter both marked it as spam with a score of 5.0 (out of 5.0)
I totally disagree with number 7. I work for a bank in the IT department. I know for a fact that we lose $5.00 a month for every customer who we give Internet banking and Free Bill pay to. We sure as hell don't make that back with the $350 dollars thay have deposited in their account. Banks give you tones of free services that the bank has to pay for and then you complain about it. A bank loses money on a great number of its customers and their ussually the ones we get complaints from.
My subjekt line sez it all.
That article was stupid. :(
However, on my Windows98 PC here, it renders in Arial and a perfectly readable serifed font -- Courier I think. (I'm a content guy not a layout person). I tried both Off-by-One and Firefox and it's quite readable in both.
So maybe part of the problem is loading stuff like Office that makes a zillion dubiously readable fonts available. And maybe the solution for many people (yes, I know that some people really need Elvish 12pt et al for work or avocation reasons) is to delete a lot of the fonts that they will never use and detest when others use them. I only have 31 fonts installed on this machine. I suspect that's too few, but I also suspect that hundreds of fonts is too many for a lot of folks.
You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
Wow. Just, wow. So is this an organization started and run by twelve year old wanna-be hackers?
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
FTFA:
"You're new video and tv-capable mobile phone"
For once, It's an incorrect use of "you're" when "your" should have been used. Usually it's the other way around.
While waiting on that meeting to start, you know the one that you really don't want to be in but for some reason you are required to be there and then everyone finally shows up and starts talking about a completely different subject for which you are completely uninterested so you start playing solitaire while waiting for them to get to the real subject of the meeting and all of the sudden you catch your name and the comment "done by end of the day" and you have no idea what you have just been asked/assigned to do and everyone leaves. I loved the post!
A Slashdot thread without a flawed analogy is like a frozen fishstick without a train conductor. - Odin's Raven
Howabout the crime of boring /. the audience to death?
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