Sorry, saying someone thinks they are a genius simply because they stated they had a different experience/opinion IS inflammatory and a troll. I didn't begin the thread saying 'Apache is the suxors' as some of the respondents basically have about IIS. I didn't attack Apache or it's users (I'm one of them) in any way. I simply said what was easier for me for my use in my circumstance. Then I get accused of thinking I'm a genius who does 'nothing' with my servers. Those are unprovoked attacks, and trolls in my book.
If they only had a differing opinion they would not say I must think I'm some kind of genius. They would simply say they had a different experience. If they stop trolling, I'll stop calling them trolls.
So what should I do here? Troll you back and say you must be a fucking moron if you are having all those configuration issues?
Well, are you?
As I said before, different people are going to have different configurations and different needs and experiences. I run a relatively small number of websites for nonprofits, edu's and small companies. That's very much side-work in my main job, I don't work on the web server all day, and neither do most folks out there. The content is a bit dynamic, with new products or events, blogs, new java applets etc, etc, but nothing changes constantly that requires constant tweaking of the apache or IIS configs. If that's 'not doing very damn much' by your standards, then neither do 90+% of the other websites out there. That's a typical setup. If I were constantly tweaking the configurations daily and doing very nonstandard things I'm sure I'd prefer apache too. I don't. I was relaying my experience, which probably reflects that of a good number of folks out there. Not looking for some idiot troll to say if you think the same way I do you must think you are a wild genius or do nothing 'real' with your websites.
Where the hell did I claim to be a configuration genius Mr Troll? I explained that it worked fine for my in my situation. If someone else needs to do different things than I do they may well prefer Apache or Sun Server, or something else. Just because you have a lot of issues with your server, that doesn't mean everyone else is as well, or has to be a genius not to. If you prefer Apache for what you need to do than that's great, use it when you can. Others of us have had decent experiences with the MS GUI.
As I said to the other poster. I tend to set up a webserver, and then not touch the config file for months. I have no need to sit and tweak their configs all the time. If it's been several months since I touched the config, I'm not always sure what key word it is I'm searching for.
You are mistakenly thinking I am trying to convince you what to use. I don't care what you use. I was explaining what was easier to ME.
First, text editors have this really nifty feature called "search". Takes you right to the string that you request.
And if I'm not sure what the key work is I'm supposed to be searching for because I haven't touched the config file in a few months? The tabbed headings make it easier to find things for me in that case.
Second, what if I want to see/verify all settings? What if I want to make sure that Server B is configured exactly the same as Server A? Much easier to scroll through (or diff) a config file than to click on every single frigging tab and subdialog, remembering which ones I have looked at and what they were set to.
That's very true, and if for some reason I wanted to compare settings of several of my web servers that might be handy. I just never seem to need to do that.
Yes, to each his own, but anyone who has done anything beyond setting up a single web server once, curses the MS GUI configuration interfaces.
Patently and untrue and a troll. I've set up a good number of both Windows/Linux/BSD/MacOS web servers and I don't curse the MS GUI.
slam/slap sticks are what the cops around here call them. A tool with a kind of drill bit on one end of it. When you hit/slap the other end of the tool, it causes the drill bit to spin into the lock, where it is designed to get stuck. The thief then yanks on the tool and basically rips out the lock cylinder, allowing them to then open the car door since the lock is totally disabled/trashed.
Because slicing open a closed convertible top takes more effort and is a more noticeable action than opening an unlocked door.
Yes, tops can be sliced open. Regular car door locks can also be defeated in about 3 seconds using a slam stick.
Nothing is going to stop someone from getting into your car if they want to. Requiring some level of effort will detour many folks who would snag something if they were just walking by otherwise.
You forgot #4. Due to the shape of an aircraft cabin (long and narrow) if your normal bullet goes through the bad guy (or a good guy next to him if you missed) it's probably going to go through yet another person, and another, etc, till it's been slowed sufficiently by bodies. 'light' ammo will stop in the 1st persons body and contain the damage and leave all the innocents behind the target intact.
As another Ohioan... Why are you saying WTF? There are lots of places in our state that don't have broadband available. This should help bring it to them.
If so, is it possible they have their own team of hackers set out to find such exploits?
In a word? Duh.
They probably don't have their own but call on another 3 letter agency for them. The NSA are the monster intel agency, and they provide many tools and services for the other 3 letter folks. They've made trojan'd printers etc before for invasions of other countries networks. Finding holes in, or clandestinely adding them to software/OSs is probably the full time work of a good sized team.
It's called offsite storage. If you aren't doing it, look into it or you will regret not doing so if your building ever burns down, floods, etc.
They just did it in a horribly horribly bad way. There are lots of other state buildings around they could transfer things to regularly. Having anyone, let alone an intern, take them to their home instead is simply stupid. As is leaving company property unattended in your car. Having them do that with unencrypted data was just batshit insane.
*we* all thought they where there? Bullshit. I didn't. The U.N. inspectors told us they weren't there. Yes, Saddam occasionally would kick the U.N. inspectors out for a few weeks, but they'd keep going right back in. In fact, we had to specifically order the inspectors OUT, so they wouldn't get killed during the invasion.
My guess? Right before he wrote that, he created a website with women popping balloons and is now making tons of revenue off the huge volume of views the ads on the site are getting now that it's being/.'d.
Wed morning? The day before was patch tuesday. Why is your company installing patches on production servers they day they come out?
You should have a test machine set up and run ALL new patches on it for at least a few days to make sure they don't hork anything up before rolling them out to production machines.
I see you've never worked for a big company. It can be VERY difficult to know/track what is installed and where. MS and many other companies make tools specifically for tracking this to give their IT folks a better handle on it, (and help with purchasing decisions, etc, as well). A tool which does the same for other software is very useful to the same folks. The author of the blurb has a tinfoil hat on. This is simply another useful too, but totally unworthy of a/. headline.
Actually I think PostgreSQL might have eaten a lot more of the MySQL market if they'd simply been faster to market with better admin tools and Windows support.
Lots of folks went with MySQL early because of those factors. They also then tended to write all their PHP, etc, applications to only talk to MySQL, thus making folks who might have preferred PostgreSQL use MySQL to run the app that they needed to run. Once that happens you are kind of in a Catch-22 place. Folks won't write the apps for PostgreSQL until it's used by a larger chunk of the market, but it won't take that large chunk because all the 'cool' apps were written MySQL only, so they have to run MySQL instead of PostgreSQL
Are there positives? Of course. Are there negatives? Of course. And the journalist should present all of them.
I think he did that well in "Bowling". It wasn't just a film making 'guns' look evil. He pointed out that Canadians and some other countries have a MUCH higher ratio of guns/people, and don't kill anywhere near the same percentage of themselves as happens in the States. He didn't propose any single solution on "Bowling", but raised some questions, from all angles. I don't know if he's done that with the new movie, but I'm hopeful.
For every person who can't afford coverage and will get it for free, you'll have to point out all of the people who _can_ afford it and are getting it for a very good price, who will end up losing more money in taxes than what it costs them right now (My wife, for example, gets coverage through her work for free... I get it for a very low cost through my work... if our taxes went up to pay for this, we'd both end up on the losing-side --financially and in the quality of the coverage).
Don't forget, that both your employers ARE paying money to get you those low cost health plans. If medicine became more socialized and your taxes were raised, at least some of that would be offset by your employer now having more money to pay you in salary, because they no longer would need to pay it to get that low cost plan you currently have.
Don't complain about someone else leaving out the important facts from the other side of the story if you are going to do the same thing in your own post...
It is much like a gun. If you don't properly secure it, and your child gets a hold of it and shoots someone (accidentally or otherwise) they're going to be pretty hard on you if you left it loaded on the couch.
What a complete load of crap.
Is there some law that says access points have to be controlled like guns?
Did you need to get a license for your wireless router?
Was there a 3-day waiting period to get one when you went to Best Buy?
Have you told your local Starbucks/coffee-shop or University that they better turn off their open access points or risk going to jail because they are essentially throwing around loaded guns?
No???
Having an open wireless access point isn't against the law. Why would they 'be harder on you' for doing nothing more than having an open access point? Either you have kiddie porn on your machine or not. If you don't then don't be a wimp and live your life in fear.
Do you put boots on all four tires of your car each night to make sure no one steals it and kills someone with it? Why not? THEY COULD!!!
Don't give in to the overreaction and ignorance. Fight it. We need to fight it.
And when someone cracks your WPA/WAP encryption or weak password and downloads the kiddie porn, you now are going to bear sole responsibility for all packets to/from your machine because 'no one else could possibly have done it, the machine was secured'.
But hey, it's all good. While bubba has you bent over the bed, you can feel awesome that you didn't let anyone legitimate use your connection in a pinch.
Cygwin can be handy, but it's often just a PITA. Lately I've gone to just running a version of *nix under VMWare most of the time when I need to use a *nix app on a windows box (unless it's something that really has to interact directly with the host system).
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Sorry, saying someone thinks they are a genius simply because they stated they had a different experience/opinion IS inflammatory and a troll. I didn't begin the thread saying 'Apache is the suxors' as some of the respondents basically have about IIS. I didn't attack Apache or it's users (I'm one of them) in any way. I simply said what was easier for me for my use in my circumstance. Then I get accused of thinking I'm a genius who does 'nothing' with my servers. Those are unprovoked attacks, and trolls in my book.
If they only had a differing opinion they would not say I must think I'm some kind of genius. They would simply say they had a different experience. If they stop trolling, I'll stop calling them trolls.
So what should I do here? Troll you back and say you must be a fucking moron if you are having all those configuration issues?
Well, are you?
As I said before, different people are going to have different configurations and different needs and experiences. I run a relatively small number of websites for nonprofits, edu's and small companies. That's very much side-work in my main job, I don't work on the web server all day, and neither do most folks out there. The content is a bit dynamic, with new products or events, blogs, new java applets etc, etc, but nothing changes constantly that requires constant tweaking of the apache or IIS configs. If that's 'not doing very damn much' by your standards, then neither do 90+% of the other websites out there. That's a typical setup. If I were constantly tweaking the configurations daily and doing very nonstandard things I'm sure I'd prefer apache too. I don't. I was relaying my experience, which probably reflects that of a good number of folks out there. Not looking for some idiot troll to say if you think the same way I do you must think you are a wild genius or do nothing 'real' with your websites.
Where the hell did I claim to be a configuration genius Mr Troll? I explained that it worked fine for my in my situation. If someone else needs to do different things than I do they may well prefer Apache or Sun Server, or something else. Just because you have a lot of issues with your server, that doesn't mean everyone else is as well, or has to be a genius not to. If you prefer Apache for what you need to do than that's great, use it when you can. Others of us have had decent experiences with the MS GUI.
As I said to the other poster. I tend to set up a webserver, and then not touch the config file for months. I have no need to sit and tweak their configs all the time. If it's been several months since I touched the config, I'm not always sure what key word it is I'm searching for.
Not a very convincing argument.
You are mistakenly thinking I am trying to convince you what to use. I don't care what you use. I was explaining what was easier to ME.
First, text editors have this really nifty feature called "search". Takes you right to the string that you request.
And if I'm not sure what the key work is I'm supposed to be searching for because I haven't touched the config file in a few months? The tabbed headings make it easier to find things for me in that case.
Second, what if I want to see/verify all settings? What if I want to make sure that Server B is configured exactly the same as Server A? Much easier to scroll through (or diff) a config file than to click on every single frigging tab and subdialog, remembering which ones I have looked at and what they were set to.
That's very true, and if for some reason I wanted to compare settings of several of my web servers that might be handy. I just never seem to need to do that.
Yes, to each his own, but anyone who has done anything beyond setting up a single web server once, curses the MS GUI configuration interfaces.
Patently and untrue and a troll. I've set up a good number of both Windows/Linux/BSD/MacOS web servers and I don't curse the MS GUI.
Have you ever actually used the IIS or Exchange (or even Outlook) configuration GUI?
Yes, and to me it's easier to see/find stuff then when I have to scroll for miles through the config files on my apache servers. To each his own.
slam/slap sticks are what the cops around here call them. A tool with a kind of drill bit on one end of it. When you hit/slap the other end of the tool, it causes the drill bit to spin into the lock, where it is designed to get stuck. The thief then yanks on the tool and basically rips out the lock cylinder, allowing them to then open the car door since the lock is totally disabled/trashed.
Because slicing open a closed convertible top takes more effort and is a more noticeable action than opening an unlocked door.
Yes, tops can be sliced open. Regular car door locks can also be defeated in about 3 seconds using a slam stick.
Nothing is going to stop someone from getting into your car if they want to. Requiring some level of effort will detour many folks who would snag something if they were just walking by otherwise.
I think you need to check out medico locks if you think they are in the same line of locks that can be picked with a bump key.
If these guys actually have a way of defeating a medico lock, they've done something special.
You forgot #4. Due to the shape of an aircraft cabin (long and narrow) if your normal bullet goes through the bad guy (or a good guy next to him if you missed) it's probably going to go through yet another person, and another, etc, till it's been slowed sufficiently by bodies. 'light' ammo will stop in the 1st persons body and contain the damage and leave all the innocents behind the target intact.
Yeah I read it. Ok, pretend you are the governor and want to expand broadband in the state. How would you go about doing it?
I don't know how successful it will be, but at least it's an attempt/start.
As another Ohioan... Why are you saying WTF? There are lots of places in our state that don't have broadband available. This should help bring it to them.
If so, is it possible they have their own team of hackers set out to find such exploits?
In a word? Duh.
They probably don't have their own but call on another 3 letter agency for them. The NSA are the monster intel agency, and they provide many tools and services for the other 3 letter folks. They've made trojan'd printers etc before for invasions of other countries networks. Finding holes in, or clandestinely adding them to software/OSs is probably the full time work of a good sized team.
It's called offsite storage. If you aren't doing it, look into it or you will regret not doing so if your building ever burns down, floods, etc.
They just did it in a horribly horribly bad way. There are lots of other state buildings around they could transfer things to regularly. Having anyone, let alone an intern, take them to their home instead is simply stupid. As is leaving company property unattended in your car. Having them do that with unencrypted data was just batshit insane.
*we* all thought they where there? Bullshit. I didn't. The U.N. inspectors told us they weren't there. Yes, Saddam occasionally would kick the U.N. inspectors out for a few weeks, but they'd keep going right back in. In fact, we had to specifically order the inspectors OUT, so they wouldn't get killed during the invasion.
My guess? Right before he wrote that, he created a website with women popping balloons and is now making tons of revenue off the huge volume of views the ads on the site are getting now that it's being /.'d.
Wed morning? The day before was patch tuesday. Why is your company installing patches on production servers they day they come out?
You should have a test machine set up and run ALL new patches on it for at least a few days to make sure they don't hork anything up before rolling them out to production machines.
I see you've never worked for a big company. It can be VERY difficult to know/track what is installed and where. MS and many other companies make tools specifically for tracking this to give their IT folks a better handle on it, (and help with purchasing decisions, etc, as well). A tool which does the same for other software is very useful to the same folks. The author of the blurb has a tinfoil hat on. This is simply another useful too, but totally unworthy of a /. headline.
Actually I think PostgreSQL might have eaten a lot more of the MySQL market if they'd simply been faster to market with better admin tools and Windows support.
Lots of folks went with MySQL early because of those factors. They also then tended to write all their PHP, etc, applications to only talk to MySQL, thus making folks who might have preferred PostgreSQL use MySQL to run the app that they needed to run. Once that happens you are kind of in a Catch-22 place. Folks won't write the apps for PostgreSQL until it's used by a larger chunk of the market, but it won't take that large chunk because all the 'cool' apps were written MySQL only, so they have to run MySQL instead of PostgreSQL
Are there positives? Of course. Are there negatives? Of course. And the journalist should present all of them.
I think he did that well in "Bowling". It wasn't just a film making 'guns' look evil. He pointed out that Canadians and some other countries have a MUCH higher ratio of guns/people, and don't kill anywhere near the same percentage of themselves as happens in the States. He didn't propose any single solution on "Bowling", but raised some questions, from all angles. I don't know if he's done that with the new movie, but I'm hopeful.
For every person who can't afford coverage and will get it for free, you'll have to point out all of the people who _can_ afford it and are getting it for a very good price, who will end up losing more money in taxes than what it costs them right now (My wife, for example, gets coverage through her work for free... I get it for a very low cost through my work... if our taxes went up to pay for this, we'd both end up on the losing-side --financially and in the quality of the coverage).
Don't forget, that both your employers ARE paying money to get you those low cost health plans. If medicine became more socialized and your taxes were raised, at least some of that would be offset by your employer now having more money to pay you in salary, because they no longer would need to pay it to get that low cost plan you currently have.
Don't complain about someone else leaving out the important facts from the other side of the story if you are going to do the same thing in your own post...
It is much like a gun. If you don't properly secure it, and your child gets a hold of it and shoots someone (accidentally or otherwise) they're going to be pretty hard on you if you left it loaded on the couch.
What a complete load of crap.
Is there some law that says access points have to be controlled like guns?
Did you need to get a license for your wireless router?
Was there a 3-day waiting period to get one when you went to Best Buy?
Have you told your local Starbucks/coffee-shop or University that they better turn off their open access points or risk going to jail because they are essentially throwing around loaded guns?
No???
Having an open wireless access point isn't against the law. Why would they 'be harder on you' for doing nothing more than having an open access point? Either you have kiddie porn on your machine or not. If you don't then don't be a wimp and live your life in fear.
Do you put boots on all four tires of your car each night to make sure no one steals it and kills someone with it? Why not? THEY COULD!!!
Don't give in to the overreaction and ignorance. Fight it. We need to fight it.
And when someone cracks your WPA/WAP encryption or weak password and downloads the kiddie porn, you now are going to bear sole responsibility for all packets to/from your machine because 'no one else could possibly have done it, the machine was secured'.
But hey, it's all good. While bubba has you bent over the bed, you can feel awesome that you didn't let anyone legitimate use your connection in a pinch.
... can also be rootkit'ed. It's not magic. Just more secure than a vanilla Linux install. Get over it.
Cygwin can be handy, but it's often just a PITA. Lately I've gone to just running a version of *nix under VMWare most of the time when I need to use a *nix app on a windows box (unless it's something that really has to interact directly with the host system).