but instead of just selling those fixes like Apple (10.0, 10.1, 10.2--which I understand also have lots of new features)
Hang on a tick, I'm not much of an Apple guy, so I don't know too much about it, but I thought those were little updates that you just got online. Are those really separate products they sell? What a cash cow! They can intentionally hold off a few features and release them later in a "newer version" to sell again.
microsoft should stay out of this software sector, or divide the company into completely seperate entities that have no advantage in interoperation over any other non-MS company.
[Lumbergh]Uh...yeah...I think we're going to have to divide up the dev teams along this cube wall here. Peter, you're going to be on the Windows team, and on the other side of the wall, Michael is going to be on the Antivirus team. Did you get the memo about that? Great, thanks...[/Lumbergh]
Unfortunately there isn't a program to stop the user being stupid. No matter which e-mail client is used, they all allow attachments, and without a virus scanner screening those attachments, computer illiterate users are going to get virii.
That's one of the best reasons to use something like Yahoo instead of a separate email client. It won't let viruses come in through attachments. When an email has an attachment, the link is to "Scan & Download attachment". It automatically scans first, and if there's a virus found, it just won't let you download it. I think you could get the emails unscanned with POP access, though.
As to this MS virus scanning software, it seems this could easily violate their court issues for anti-competitive behavior(yeah, like enforce that anyway). I guess by selling it completely separately, instead of including it in Windows, they can say that they are competing on an equal footing. It would still seem though, that they have an unfair advantage in knowing how the operating system works more in depth than their competitors. Don't you think there's going to be some information sharing between the Windows dev team and the AV dev team?
you are completely at their mercy when it comes to being able to use it or losing it entirely.
And this isn't even about losing their data. It's about it being unavailable for a little while. Why is this such a problem to people? I agree that if there was something really important there that you couldn't be without for a while, you should have kept a copy locally.
I think people may have missed the significant point of how this happened. They wouldn't have sent out a notice about impending closure from Userland because they weren't planning to close them at that point. Dave was planning to migrate them and keep them going. It was only after they had been moved that it was discovered how he had underestimated the amount of server power needed. The new home couldn't handle running them, much less the load it would have been hit with if everyone had been notified and started backing up their sites. It was unfortunate, but at least he's setting up a way for people to get their content back. I can't believe people are so upset about losing access to their hobby for a couple weeks. It's a hobby someone else pays for, too.
All that metal tubing for the cables and stuff and the water cooling tubing must make it a nightmare to work in. Do all those tubes even go anywhere?? It seems awfuly crowded to work in there
How would you change a hard drive?
After all the time/work he put into making this, do you think he really cares if it takes a while longer to replace something inside it?
So what are the uses of having hundreds of megabytes or even a/2 gigabyte of storage space ?
bragging. Due to maximum message sizes, you still can't send/receive 500MB messages, so people will have to accumulate thousands of emails to fill this up, and I'll bet not many will. It's just a pissing contest that 1GB is bigger than 100MB.
Oh, you forgot one: Gmail: reading your emails and advertising to you based on it. I'm happy to have a Yahoo account for that reason. Really, 100MB is big enough--that's more online storage than my ISP gives me. I don't think Gmail allows message sizes of 10MB like Yahoo does now. Does Gmail do POP access? With Yahoo POPs, the free account can do that too.
I also have legitimate group emails getting routed to the bulk mail folder. You can set up delivery rules if you want though. Set that sender to always go to Inbox. I haven't bothered to do it yet because I only get one about every couple days and my spam volume is only about 2 per day.
"Why would you put the java executable go under/etc?"
Well, you'd have to ask Sun. I downloaded the zipped archive into my home account and after un-archiving it, ran the install script. It automatically put it in/etc/java/. I don't really care where it put it; it's just that I had to find it to tell Azureus where it was.
That's the same problem I was having. The computer I was using to try Linux distros has a 15" monitor, so all the distros would use a large resolution, and it was very difficult to change the resolution back to 800x600. I understand part of the difficulty is because that's an Xwindows setting, and the desktop environments can't just change that directly. The tool I found that could do it easily was YaST on SuSE. It would let you change one or more display settings and then it would (behind the scenes) change the X config file with that value and restart the X server. Voila! Almost like Windows.
True. Simple installation yes. Like windows no. Why? I haven't come across a newbie who can do a clean installation with windows(I am not including those recovery disks that just dump an image into hdd). No one complains about windows because not many newbies install windows. it comes pre-installed on their system.
You missed part of his point. He's also talking about installing programs. If there's not a package for your distro already, installing a program, even from binaries, is a pain in the butt. I tried (and succeeded eventually) installing Azureus. First problem--JRE required. OK, I went through the crap with installing that. Now, try to run Azureus again--can't find JRE. I have to go through/etc/java/ to find the java executable and put that path in the Azureus config file. I still don't understand why Azureus can't search/etc to find java. The other thing bothersome about this is that it won't install an icon for Azureus in my start menu. I have to open a terminal and cd to the Azureus directory to run it. I tried to make an icon on my desktop for it and gave the path and filename to run, but it wouldn't run from the icon--no error message or anything to tell me why the icon wouldn't work. Why is that such a problem to actually INSTALL into the menu on your desktop environment?
I remember seeing that before when they were contemplating a few things people should try for this project. I can't believe they didn't wise up and leave that out. This quote from the article seems to say it all about that idea.
You may not want them to try to set up a firewall on your machine, for example, if you already have one set up and
it's too awful to contemplate having to wipe it out and start fresh.
Oh yeah, that sounds great that you should try to have a newbie set up a firewall, even though it's a royal pain in the ass for the knowledgeable Linux user. WTF?!
Well, I would say the Novell case can be dismissed without much issue because that would squarely decide that Novell owns the copyrights. The IBM case can then continue, and I hope goes all the way since it involves contesting the GPL, and claims of tainted code in Linux.
You apparently have to be in McBride's mind to see it though. Here is a quote from their press release:
"McBride said SCO has been diligent in providing the courts with samples of the code it believes IBM has contributed to Linux. He said IBM has not been as forthcoming."
Oh, man! I wore my nice shoes today, and I didn't appreciate stepping in all this horses*** Darl is throwing around.
I can't believe this flamebait/troll got modded insightful. How in the world is being forced to do something the same thing as being seen as you walk along the street?
That's a good point about TV being free. There's a friend of mine who doesn't have a TV, but likes the new Enterprise show. He downloads them from newsgroups to watch them. I don't think there's a problem with that because if he had a TV and VCR, he would have just been recording it instead. The movie thing, however, you usually have to pay to see. (unless it gets shown on TV, but it is usually edited down to fit the TV time)
That wouldn't be your problem right there, would it? Even Win98 would run slow on such an old POS box. Considering that you can get a 2GHz computer these days for less than $500 (with a monitor, no less), I fail to see your point.
Do you just make this stuff up for the heck of it? It's already very fast with Win98SE. I have one that's faster--this is a secondary machine that I can reformat at will and try out Linux distros. I'm not looking to sink money into this because it's just a learning phase. I'll go for a lighter window manager, maybe in combination with a lighter distro, too, and it should be great.
I think that's on my to-do list of things to learn. I want to find out how to turn off the services and daemons that are running. I haven't done any custom compiling, either, so that's something I should probably find out about.
$250.00 for 512MB more =.50 cents per additional MB.
Carry that out over 4 years and you end up paying roughly 60 bucks a year for the added RAM. That's 5 bucks a month for 4 years. It's not expensive in the grand scheme of things. Eat one less "extra value meal" a month and you've just financed your gig of RAM.
Don't give that spread out over X years crap. Are you setting that $5 aside in a piggy bank and planning to buy that RAM 4 years from now, or is someone going to give you the memory now and let you pay for it in 4 years? Right, that's what I thought. You have to have the $250 now to get the RAM now.
If you're already planning on buying a whole computer from Dell, then that's different. They will let you finance it, and you can just add a few dollars more per month onto the payments you'll be making.
Funny you mentioned that because that's what I'm using right now on this Sun Solaris system I've been using to view/. and type this. I wouldn't really like it for my own desktop though.
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They double the revenue stream by selling the holes and also selling the plugs to fill them.
As to this MS virus scanning software, it seems this could easily violate their court issues for anti-competitive behavior(yeah, like enforce that anyway). I guess by selling it completely separately, instead of including it in Windows, they can say that they are competing on an equal footing. It would still seem though, that they have an unfair advantage in knowing how the operating system works more in depth than their competitors. Don't you think there's going to be some information sharing between the Windows dev team and the AV dev team?
"That's my data! How dare you charge me to get my own data back. U suX0rs!"
What did you transfer those terabytes of data from then? Your PDA?
I think people may have missed the significant point of how this happened. They wouldn't have sent out a notice about impending closure from Userland because they weren't planning to close them at that point. Dave was planning to migrate them and keep them going. It was only after they had been moved that it was discovered how he had underestimated the amount of server power needed. The new home couldn't handle running them, much less the load it would have been hit with if everyone had been notified and started backing up their sites. It was unfortunate, but at least he's setting up a way for people to get their content back. I can't believe people are so upset about losing access to their hobby for a couple weeks. It's a hobby someone else pays for, too.
Gmail: reading your emails and advertising to you based on it. I'm happy to have a Yahoo account for that reason. Really, 100MB is big enough--that's more online storage than my ISP gives me. I don't think Gmail allows message sizes of 10MB like Yahoo does now. Does Gmail do POP access? With Yahoo POPs, the free account can do that too.
I also have legitimate group emails getting routed to the bulk mail folder. You can set up delivery rules if you want though. Set that sender to always go to Inbox. I haven't bothered to do it yet because I only get one about every couple days and my spam volume is only about 2 per day.
"Why would you put the java executable go under /etc?"
/etc/java/. I don't really care where it put it; it's just that I had to find it to tell Azureus where it was.
Well, you'd have to ask Sun. I downloaded the zipped archive into my home account and after un-archiving it, ran the install script. It automatically put it in
That's the same problem I was having. The computer I was using to try Linux distros has a 15" monitor, so all the distros would use a large resolution, and it was very difficult to change the resolution back to 800x600. I understand part of the difficulty is because that's an Xwindows setting, and the desktop environments can't just change that directly. The tool I found that could do it easily was YaST on SuSE. It would let you change one or more display settings and then it would (behind the scenes) change the X config file with that value and restart the X server. Voila! Almost like Windows.
Well, I would say the Novell case can be dismissed without much issue because that would squarely decide that Novell owns the copyrights. The IBM case can then continue, and I hope goes all the way since it involves contesting the GPL, and claims of tainted code in Linux.
You apparently have to be in McBride's mind to see it though. Here is a quote from their press release:
"McBride said SCO has been diligent in providing the courts with samples of the code it believes IBM has contributed to Linux. He said IBM has not been as forthcoming."
Oh, man! I wore my nice shoes today, and I didn't appreciate stepping in all this horses*** Darl is throwing around.
I can't believe this flamebait/troll got modded insightful. How in the world is being forced to do something the same thing as being seen as you walk along the street?
That's a good point about TV being free. There's a friend of mine who doesn't have a TV, but likes the new Enterprise show. He downloads them from newsgroups to watch them. I don't think there's a problem with that because if he had a TV and VCR, he would have just been recording it instead. The movie thing, however, you usually have to pay to see. (unless it gets shown on TV, but it is usually edited down to fit the TV time)
I think that's on my to-do list of things to learn. I want to find out how to turn off the services and daemons that are running. I haven't done any custom compiling, either, so that's something I should probably find out about.
If you're already planning on buying a whole computer from Dell, then that's different. They will let you finance it, and you can just add a few dollars more per month onto the payments you'll be making.
"Ahem, cough, CDE, cough"
/. and type this. I wouldn't really like it for my own desktop though.
Funny you mentioned that because that's what I'm using right now on this Sun Solaris system I've been using to view