Seriously though, the next step in that war would be to give a more detailed analysis of the item to be fabbed. Would you render a trigger guard with 100 moving parts and 20 rotating knives listed in the fab specs? Think of the potential for Antivirus companies to scan the models and see if they are safe to fab...
This follows on from what I was saying - you cannot see an example program without using a representation. Heck, you can't even do abstract maths on paper (or blackboard, web page etc) without a representation. You can't save to disk without a binary representation.
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> Until we start caring about world hunger... We already have a food surplus
Stable, well managed countries with no civil wars don't have catastrophic famines. Begging food from the first world is not and never will be more than a very temporary solution. Good governance is what is needed.
A Canadian version, or more properly, an international verion of a document, would express measurements in the sensible metric system, rather than the antiquated, inconsisitent, absurd imperial measurements (so called becuase the British empire used to use them. Used to). Do you speak Canadian measurements?
You cannot program without a representation of your code, be it lines & boxes, 10pt Courier or whatever.
What this seems to say is that the language is independant of the representation. For eg the pascal and c uses of { and begin repectively are just representations of the same thing. So are indentation styles. IMHO representation-independance is a good thing, as it makes some silly flame wars about who's style is better irrelevant.
In order to really be representation-independent they would have to have at least 2 working representations for the coders to use, which is the opposite of the title. Sheesh.
Oh yeah, that's why the whole 'book' concept has been such a dismal failure throughout history. They had a niche until Radio, Movies and TV arrived but nobody reads them anymore. Who wants to read a fixed text?
I worry about age discrimination. But I wish I had your problem, sonny boy. What I'd do is go & chat up the teenage girls whilst waiting for the situation to improve.
Of course, at the age I am now, waiting doesn't help. I don't get teenage girls either. Kids today just don't know when time is on thier side.
OK, put it this way: Windows Toolkits that look the same (MFC, VCL, JFC, VBRUN etc) all wrap the higher level aspects of the Win32 api - this gives you operations for creating and managing Buttons, comboxes, listviews, web browsers & stuff.
Windows that don't look the same as the MS standard(Qt, and Java/Swing?) do not use these higher level APIs. They obviosuly have to use something at the bottom of thier platform-independant code, and so use just the very low level Win32 API stuff (draw line, blt btmap etc).
It is unsuprising that that MFC and VCL look the same - they are relatively thin wrappers around the same rich API.
Qt on win32 is a thick wrapper around a thin API & thus can & does roll it's own way of doing things. Ahd thus looks out of place.
> Most people don't realize Windows uses two toolkits - but over time, MFC and Borlands VCL have merged to look and feel exactly the same
What are you jibba-jabbering aboot?
Windows does not use Borland's VCL - like MS's coders would touch Borland with a 10 foot pole even it it was in thier best interests! Borland's VCL wraps the Windows API. I should know, I program with it every day. Likewise MFC wraps the same API.
Windows apps generally look the same because there is only *one* widely used windows UI toolkit the WIN32 API. Yes, there are others out ther like Qt, but they fistly are not widely used and secondly do not look the same. These facts are probably related.
> Then you haven't been following Kylix close enough!
1) The Delphi IDE is written in Delphi. The Kylix IDE will be in written Kylix. Other kylix apps don't need wine so why should this one?
2) this is in fact a point of pride for Borland - if Kylix was not capable of building the Kylix IDE it wouldn't be ready to release. Again, why should it need wine?
3) Other posters here have said that Kylix does not use WINE in any way shape or form. period. Are you calling them liars?
physical selective pressures that result from individual physical problems that may not match the environment (disease, deformity, etc)
But that's just the point. For instance, people like me who would be very short sighted without corrective measures, Now do match the environment, because we have those corective measures.
and allowing people who would not normally be able to reproduce the chance to do so.
Define normal, in the context of human beings. Normal and "natural" are slippery, and next to impossible to define. Sure, if we had a big world war & bombed the world back inot the stone age, people with heridatry short-sightedness or worse would rapidy fall by the wayside, but all that is is a change in selectiion criteria, it is no more or less normal.
> But you assertion that homeless people have less children than billionaires is a bit far from the truth.
I didn't assert, I asked. Admittedly I assumed that on average, a society's sucesses would have more viable offspring than it's failures (if nothing else, death rates would be higher among the homeless). If it is the other way around, there's still selection.
> It is a known fact that as populations get wealthier, their birthrate goes down.
You may have a point... *shug* Then there is selection in favour of Africans like me. The real point is that there is *always* selection, all you need is differences in rates of reproduction.
> This means that if you advocate medicine, you eventually will also have to advocate genetic engineering of offspring, because you will have to fix bad genes which will accumulate
Given the definition of "bad" as "would be detrimental to survival without medical intervention", which a a normal human point of view, that is a good point.
> and don't tell me that "no gene is bad,
Ah, the intersection of the evolutionary and personal human viewpoints. In one sense, no gene is bad. It is a collection of atoms. It just is. In another, it is less fit for most environments than others, and is therfor bad.
> As I use to say, the religions that refuse medical treatment at all are not as zany as they seem to be.
Yup, it's that good of the individual vs. good of the species thing again.
A common misconception. Darwin's use of the word "fittest" *does not* mean "most healthy", it means "best fit to the environment". All that's happened is that the environmental selection criteria have changed. Our environment, for instance, is no longer so unfriendly towards short-sighted people.
> Now everyone makes it,
Do they? Do homeless people have as many children as.com billionaires? Do Dumb/unlucky/reckless people still get killed before they breed? Is there still differential reproduction based on some (any) criteria? Point made already.
You cannot escape natural selection. Ever.
Anyway, for 80% of the earth's population, the selection criteria are the same as they ever where. Which is why whilst Americans are getting fatter, lazier and dumber, they will eventually be wiped out by the tougher, craftier Somalis. This IMHO a good thing - the good of the individual is not the good of the species.
Also, on due consideration, inside everything there is actually a rather eratic but occasionaly brilliantly informative encyclopedia struggling to get out. However the mission statment of everything (ie *Everything*) swamps it most times.
Close, but not exactly. An encyclopedia is informative and factual, whist many of the most highly rated nodes on Everything are subjective, funny and contrafactual, creative, or personal accounts and fiction about human experiences. And lots of-meta discussion of E2.
For instamce, cool nodes right now on E2 include "Step away from the fridge, lardass!", "just give him the damned fish", "How to annoy a fast-food worker on counter", "Could you please be more specific and less annoying?"
Yeah, that element of the plot was dumb as a rock: if you want electricity, then rather burn the food that you would have fed to the humans.
If you really need some kinda nonsensical "bio-electricy" thingymajig from living beings, then rather farm cows, they are more docile & have simpler dietary requirements.
If you really need some even-more-nonsensical thingy from the brainwaves of intelligent beings, then use cloning + genetic engineering/selective breeding to get lots of the most docile & productive ones. I mean, why run the risk of the smart & restless humans breaking out when you could have really dumb ones, like say, Keanu Reaves. Oh, wait....
OK leaving that detail aside, the central plot element is a deep pilosophical question that has been around for centuries. Decartes wanted to know: how do you know if all you percieve actually exisits, or is the machinations of some powerfull demon? In the end he decided that he thought, therefor he knew that he was, if nothing else.
How do you know that you aren't a brain in a vat wired into a VR is the more modern and common formulation of the same question, as used by the Matrix.
After that, sit back, disengage the brain and watch the stunts.
It's just the MS version of the standard protocols. MS always inserts incompatibilites, er extensions into thier implementations in order to lock in thier clients. This is where we get MS-HTML, MS-Cerberos, etc etc.
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The title says it all.
Seriously though, the next step in that war would be to give a more detailed analysis of the item to be fabbed. Would you render a trigger guard with 100 moving parts and 20 rotating knives listed in the fab specs? Think of the potential for Antivirus companies to scan the models and see if they are safe to fab...
I can do with it what I like. I chose MPL open source licence, you can choose whatever you want.
I am not an American, but AFAIK *that* is the way of the free world.
The quick solution to the horror: Come home, preview the items on the fabber's screen, rendered as a rotatable view of the 3d object.
Then decide if you want to hit the 'fab' or 'delete' button.
> Personally I'd like to see an example program
This follows on from what I was saying - you cannot see an example program without using a representation. Heck, you can't even do abstract maths on paper (or blackboard, web page etc) without a representation. You can't save to disk without a binary representation.
Stable, well managed countries with no civil wars don't have catastrophic famines. Begging food from the first world is not and never will be more than a very temporary solution. Good governance is what is needed.
> Since when is Canadian a language?
A Canadian version, or more properly, an international verion of a document, would express measurements in the sensible metric system, rather than the antiquated, inconsisitent, absurd imperial measurements (so called becuase the British empire used to use them. Used to). Do you speak Canadian measurements?
You cannot program without a representation of your code, be it lines & boxes, 10pt Courier or whatever.
What this seems to say is that the language is independant of the representation. For eg the pascal and c uses of { and begin repectively are just representations of the same thing. So are indentation styles. IMHO representation-independance is a good thing, as it makes some silly flame wars about who's style is better irrelevant.
In order to really be representation-independent they would have to have at least 2 working representations for the coders to use, which is the opposite of the title. Sheesh.
> The page-based internet is boring.
Oh yeah, that's why the whole 'book' concept has been such a dismal failure throughout history. They had a niche until Radio, Movies and TV arrived but nobody reads them anymore. Who wants to read a fixed text?
Sheesh.
I worry about age discrimination. But I wish I had your problem, sonny boy. What I'd do is go & chat up the teenage girls whilst waiting for the situation to improve.
Of course, at the age I am now, waiting doesn't help. I don't get teenage girls either. Kids today just don't know when time is on thier side.
OK, put it this way: Windows Toolkits that look the same (MFC, VCL, JFC, VBRUN etc) all wrap the higher level aspects of the Win32 api - this gives you operations for creating and managing Buttons, comboxes, listviews, web browsers & stuff.
Windows that don't look the same as the MS standard(Qt, and Java/Swing?) do not use these higher level APIs. They obviosuly have to use something at the bottom of thier platform-independant code, and so use just the very low level Win32 API stuff (draw line, blt btmap etc).
It is unsuprising that that MFC and VCL look the same - they are relatively thin wrappers around the same rich API.
Qt on win32 is a thick wrapper around a thin API & thus can & does roll it's own way of doing things. Ahd thus looks out of place.
> Most people don't realize Windows uses two toolkits - but over time, MFC and Borlands VCL have merged to look and feel exactly the same
What are you jibba-jabbering aboot?
Windows does not use Borland's VCL - like MS's coders would touch Borland with a 10 foot pole even it it was in thier best interests! Borland's VCL wraps the Windows API. I should know, I program with it every day. Likewise MFC wraps the same API.
Windows apps generally look the same because there is only *one* widely used windows UI toolkit the WIN32 API. Yes, there are others out ther like Qt, but they fistly are not widely used and secondly do not look the same. These facts are probably related.
> Then you haven't been following Kylix close enough!
1) The Delphi IDE is written in Delphi. The Kylix IDE will be in written Kylix. Other kylix apps don't need wine so why should this one?
2) this is in fact a point of pride for Borland - if Kylix was not capable of building the Kylix IDE it wouldn't be ready to release. Again, why should it need wine?
3) Other posters here have said that Kylix does not use WINE in any way shape or form. period. Are you calling them liars?
> "after kylix is finished, work will start on porting it to other platforms"
Which is not now - C++ is still to go. When is software ever finished anyway?
> Shame though the IDE uses Winelibs
Oh does it? Can you give a reference on that, as this is the first I've heared about it & i've been following Kylix.
physical selective pressures that result from individual physical problems that may not match the environment (disease, deformity, etc)
But that's just the point. For instance, people like me who would be very short sighted without corrective measures, Now do match the environment, because we have those corective measures.
and allowing people who would not normally be able to reproduce the chance to do so.
Define normal, in the context of human beings. Normal and "natural" are slippery, and next to impossible to define. Sure, if we had a big world war & bombed the world back inot the stone age, people with heridatry short-sightedness or worse would rapidy fall by the wayside, but all that is is a change in selectiion criteria, it is no more or less normal.
> But you assertion that homeless people have less children than billionaires is a bit far from the truth.
I didn't assert, I asked. Admittedly I assumed that on average, a society's sucesses would have more viable offspring than it's failures (if nothing else, death rates would be higher among the homeless). If it is the other way around, there's still selection.
> It is a known fact that as populations get wealthier, their birthrate goes down.
You may have a point... *shug* Then there is selection in favour of Africans like me. The real point is that there is *always* selection, all you need is differences in rates of reproduction.
> This means that if you advocate medicine, you eventually will also have to advocate genetic engineering of offspring, because you will have to fix bad genes which will accumulate
Given the definition of "bad" as "would be detrimental to survival without medical intervention", which a a normal human point of view, that is a good point.
> and don't tell me that "no gene is bad,
Ah, the intersection of the evolutionary and personal human viewpoints. In one sense, no gene is bad. It is a collection of atoms. It just is. In another, it is less fit for most environments than others, and is therfor bad.
> As I use to say, the religions that refuse medical treatment at all are not as zany as they seem to be.
Yup, it's that good of the individual vs. good of the species thing again.
> - the fittest no longer survive.
.com billionaires? Do Dumb/unlucky/reckless people still get killed before they breed? Is there still differential reproduction based on some (any) criteria? Point made already.
A common misconception. Darwin's use of the word "fittest" *does not* mean "most healthy", it means "best fit to the environment". All that's happened is that the environmental selection criteria have changed. Our environment, for instance, is no longer so unfriendly towards short-sighted people.
> Now everyone makes it,
Do they? Do homeless people have as many children as
You cannot escape natural selection. Ever.
Anyway, for 80% of the earth's population, the selection criteria are the same as they ever where. Which is why whilst Americans are getting fatter, lazier and dumber, they will eventually be wiped out by the tougher, craftier Somalis. This IMHO a good thing - the good of the individual is not the good of the species.
Because they did for the imac. OK, maybe not the keyboard but close enough
In a quantum system, the observer affects the state.
Yes it would.
Also, on due consideration, inside everything there is actually a rather eratic but occasionaly brilliantly informative encyclopedia struggling to get out. However the mission statment of everything (ie *Everything*) swamps it most times.
Add moderation and multiple entries,and it would basically be everything2 (www.everything2.com)
The whole project should be rated -1: redundant
Close, but not exactly. An encyclopedia is informative and factual, whist many of the most highly rated nodes on Everything are subjective, funny and contrafactual, creative, or personal accounts and fiction about human experiences. And lots of-meta discussion of E2.
For instamce, cool nodes right now on E2 include "Step away from the fridge, lardass!", "just give him the damned fish", "How to annoy a fast-food worker on counter", "Could you please be more specific and less annoying?"
Hardly encycolpaedia material.
Yeah, that element of the plot was dumb as a rock: if you want electricity, then rather burn the food that you would have fed to the humans.
If you really need some kinda nonsensical "bio-electricy" thingymajig from living beings, then rather farm cows, they are more docile & have simpler dietary requirements.
If you really need some even-more-nonsensical thingy from the brainwaves of intelligent beings, then use cloning + genetic engineering/selective breeding to get lots of the most docile & productive ones. I mean, why run the risk of the smart & restless humans breaking out when you could have really dumb ones, like say, Keanu Reaves. Oh, wait....
OK leaving that detail aside, the central plot element is a deep pilosophical question that has been around for centuries. Decartes wanted to know: how do you know if all you percieve actually exisits, or is the machinations of some powerfull demon? In the end he decided that he thought, therefor he knew that he was, if nothing else.
How do you know that you aren't a brain in a vat wired into a VR is the more modern and common formulation of the same question, as used by the Matrix.
After that, sit back, disengage the brain and watch the stunts.
> obviously contrary to the major tennants of OpenSource
"tennant" isn't an English word. "Tenant" is, but I don't think that anyone pays rent to OpenSource in order to live there. I think you mean tennet.
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> What is this new protocol I never heard about??
It's just the MS version of the standard protocols. MS always inserts incompatibilites, er extensions into thier implementations in order to lock in thier clients. This is where we get MS-HTML, MS-Cerberos, etc etc.
ASCI silly question, get a stupid ANSI.