You may be able to file a 1040 EZ online, but anybody who itemizes (*anybody with a mortgage*) will be booted off of the IRS - perhaps 3rd party filers will allow slow connects...
As for the rest of the access issues - the trend is clearly directed at serving and providing content to high bandwidth users. As the products become more complex e.g. interactive forms with large ancillary data components - then the dial up users will be shut out.
No, I'm sorry but I don't think that 80 meg.pdf's of current regulations are actually "available" through dialup.
What 80 meg reg? How about Truth in Lending (TIL) - a law and regulations that every U.S. citizen has as a means to limit 3rd party control over their financial destiny?http://www.ftc.gov/
Or, how about the 10K & 8Q filings with the SEC? Want to know who is in charge of your least favorite business - or, who has insider information? Try http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml/ and see if you can learn anything of significance over a 56k connection.
Because it serves as yet another bellwether - a marker in the measure of lost egalitarianism in an age of information technology...
Once electricity was viewed as a luxury. By the 1940s Rural Electrification programs became the way that the majority of the U.S. rural population was brought on-line the power grid. Today - a mere 60 years later for many communities - power and telephone are routinely viewed as bottom line necessities.
Social Justice- the liberal slugged suing and using the entire Judicial Branch to remedy the injustice. Think about how much the criminal fine will hurt and the stay within a jail cell (*where your TP is provided by the government*) followed by the civil action and a good judgment from an impartial jury followed by collection over a decade or so....
Government has its place and eliminating crime and providing the Courts for redress of private matters is a primary function thereof.
I'd agree with you that email is the main Internet app. However, as we move more and more to Internet-based laws and regulations (the paper copies are being phased out) we will all have to have access at higher bandwidth than dialup to register our vehicles, file our taxes, register for school (yes, even primary and secondary school) etc.
Streaming video is good enough today to demonstrate simple tasks (where to put the sticker on your license plate - how to fill out the tax form). POTS lines have limits - though I've lived through many "limits" from sub 300 Baud through 56kbit - and spent quite a bit on modems over the years.
I had an ISDN line for years - but true Broadband has made a great difference in my business life - I use the bandwith to file documents with government agencies. It couldn't be done any other way today...
As soon as the majority of personal business transactions and government-citizen transactions are moved to the Internet then a citizen's access to Broadband will define the digital divide.
Not where I look in the U.S. Every state has major problems providing access to the Internet to schools.
I'm sitting in Anchorage, AK (on vacation) and in the largest city in the largest state there are dozens of schools without Internet access.
Yes, AK has a "negative" state incooome tax and no sales tax, but the price of these two policies is denying the next generation access to the Internet early in their education.
The U.S. has highly-dense population centers that are not as developed as S. Korea.
In terms of sheer wealth - the U.S. outstrips the vast majority of countries and there simply is no reason why the U.S. should ever take a back seat to technology - unless the moneyed interests demand otherwise.
The reason that the U.S. hasn't kept up with cell technology and broadband is that the last buck hasn't been wrung out of the populace.
Given the current oil price at $70.00/bbl - coupled with the ready availability of oil at that price - the U.S. ought to have people up in arms over the $2.60+ / gal. price of gasoline. The U.S. doesn't have gasoline riots and it won't have broadband riots despite overpriced monopoly limits on broadband development in the U.S.
Neither apples nor oranges....the U.S. can easily lead in any field - it chooses.
Avast there! Bow down to his noodly appendage and ye shall partake of the beer volcano. Arr.
The funny thing about FSM is that it easily the best attack on the KS religon-in-school morons. This theory *will* be taught if ID is adopted. I'm ready to donate $1,000.00 towards the legal fund to bring the equal time argument to the courts. Bury the fools in foolishness...
His ads for his latest book. The book he is writing with Larry Niven, the latest Phonetics software package that his wife, the school-marm-turned-entrepreneur, the attack on Democrats, the attack on government and THEN, the current book and game...
Right makes wrong....Chaos Manor, my arse. It was a series of ads for JP, JP's co-authors, JP's wife's business and the various computers that he deigned to "name"
Nin and Ellison - quite the comparison: "Little Birds" v. "Sex Gang" - though they both made money from their erotica I suspect that Nin had the better return on her work. As for the height comparison: it all depends on the measure....
Everybody agrees that Harlan could be a real dick....
Perhaps the horizontal measure of the man exceeded the vertical?
XP is (finally) a stable windows OS. But as someone who has worked with both Apple & Microsoft since well before Lisa/Mac and Windows - the clear winner the past few years is OSX.
Macs are damn stable little machines. The bundle is excellent and the support system is beyond excellent. The.Mac integration surpasses any comparable package for general use.
In my experience, the costs are higher up-front with Apple, but the stability and product life are much greater than Microsoft's products. Of course, Apple has been working with their proprietary box all of these years and driver problems are far fewer than on Wintel boxes.
Censorship never entered this discussion - this was about theft and profits running to third-parties arising from the theft.
Walmart does not publish - it sells. The hypo remains valid. AOL's (then) vast userbase made them the right target. The tollway analogy fails because the bridge is a single route - all traffic uses the same route. Were Walmart is only one source (albeit a very big source) of the stolen property then it makes sense to shut down the retail outlet's ability to sell the stolen goods.
Malum per se and malum prohibitum are manifest at the retailer - the bridge is merely a path and reaches only malum prohibitum. Intent, my friend, defines the apex of the liability curve.
The problem was protecting the writer's rights - not attacking the Internet. The case was - and remains - a valid exercise of the right to petition the courts for redress of grievnces.
You want responsibility for people but none for companies who make a buck off of illegal trade. Think harder: there is liability for all or none. When you resort to name-calling you have run out of ideas.
I'm rarely interested in flame wars, but *this* may be an exception.
You SUPPORT AOL?
Change the hypo: It's Walmart selling illegal copies (e.g. copies of your book that you (and/or your publisher) didn't authorize and the sale is one from which you don't receive a royalty - but Walmart receives their cut from every book sold.
Now, do you want Walmart stopped from making a buck from you?
AOL was the largest single source of downloaders that could be identified. AOL made a buck from the thieves.
AOL had NOTICE.
AOL ignored the notice and continued to permit tens of thousands of copies to be downloaded...for which AOL made $ for connect time.
As for hating lawyers - good - it only encourages us.
Grow up. The world is full of free riders and, absent lawyers you would be screwed.
Got seatbelts? Taking safe meds? Eating (mostly) safe food? Your drinking water OK? Can you see a mile in any direction on a clear day? Got the right to vote, hold a job or marry a person not of your race? Are you a woman who can vote, own land and run a business? Does your car withstand a 5mph rear impact without bursting into flame? Did you buy a PC without buying a bundled copy of Bill's OS? Making minimum wage, or beyond? Have time and a half over 40 hrs a week? Go to a public school with people of different ethnicity?
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You may be able to file a 1040 EZ online, but anybody who itemizes (*anybody with a mortgage*) will be booted off of the IRS - perhaps 3rd party filers will allow slow connects...
As for the rest of the access issues - the trend is clearly directed at serving and providing content to high bandwidth users. As the products become more complex e.g. interactive forms with large ancillary data components - then the dial up users will be shut out.
My friend, you have experienced "the tragedy of the commons" see, http://dieoff.org/page95.htm/
The core issue of bandwith and SPAM is the cost of damage done by a minority of hogs.
See http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=13347493&sid=1 59343/
No, I'm sorry but I don't think that 80 meg .pdf's of current regulations are actually "available" through dialup.
What 80 meg reg? How about Truth in Lending (TIL) - a law and regulations that every U.S. citizen has as a means to limit 3rd party control over their financial destiny?http://www.ftc.gov/
Or, how about the 10K & 8Q filings with the SEC? Want to know who is in charge of your least favorite business - or, who has insider information? Try http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml/ and see if you can learn anything of significance over a 56k connection.
Because it serves as yet another bellwether - a marker in the measure of lost egalitarianism in an age of information technology...
Once electricity was viewed as a luxury. By the 1940s Rural Electrification programs became the way that the majority of the U.S. rural population was brought on-line the power grid. Today - a mere 60 years later for many communities - power and telephone are routinely viewed as bottom line necessities.
The mechanism would be "active denial" as we used in the assault on Iraq.
Social Justice- the liberal slugged suing and using the entire Judicial Branch to remedy the injustice. Think about how much the criminal fine will hurt and the stay within a jail cell (*where your TP is provided by the government*) followed by the civil action and a good judgment from an impartial jury followed by collection over a decade or so....
Government has its place and eliminating crime and providing the Courts for redress of private matters is a primary function thereof.
How does $10.00/mo compare to the average income in The Philippines?
I'd agree with you that email is the main Internet app. However, as we move more and more to Internet-based laws and regulations (the paper copies are being phased out) we will all have to have access at higher bandwidth than dialup to register our vehicles, file our taxes, register for school (yes, even primary and secondary school) etc.
Streaming video is good enough today to demonstrate simple tasks (where to put the sticker on your license plate - how to fill out the tax form). POTS lines have limits - though I've lived through many "limits" from sub 300 Baud through 56kbit - and spent quite a bit on modems over the years.
I had an ISDN line for years - but true Broadband has made a great difference in my business life - I use the bandwith to file documents with government agencies. It couldn't be done any other way today...
As soon as the majority of personal business transactions and government-citizen transactions are moved to the Internet then a citizen's access to Broadband will define the digital divide.
You are right!
Well done South Dakota!
I stand corrected.
That personal attack is *exactly* what a knee-jerk anti-government response calls for.
Ignoring the history of the Internet to bloviate exposes one to a virtual "dope slap" - you have yours.
The S. Koreans have access to the Internet by virtue of the U.S. permitting them access.
If the U.S. wanted to shut down access - it could - to almost any nation.
Thanks bub...you win the right wingnut moron award.
"DARPA-NET" Heard of it?
The U.S. government had quite a bit to do with the formation of the Internet and it still has the entire beast by the short hairs.
What planet are you on?
And, yes I expect the government to set standards for the distal-GI tract paper products.
You can continue to use that Sears catalog or the handy corn cobs left over from last season's field corn.
Nothing like the U.S. and Haliburton, Enron, Adelphia, Worldcom, and the petrochemical industry?
Public schools included?
Not where I look in the U.S. Every state has major problems providing access to the Internet to schools.
I'm sitting in Anchorage, AK (on vacation) and in the largest city in the largest state there are dozens of schools without Internet access.
Yes, AK has a "negative" state incooome tax and no sales tax, but the price of these two policies is denying the next generation access to the Internet early in their education.
Hmm,
The U.S. has highly-dense population centers that are not as developed as S. Korea.
In terms of sheer wealth - the U.S. outstrips the vast majority of countries and there simply is no reason why the U.S. should ever take a back seat to technology - unless the moneyed interests demand otherwise.
The reason that the U.S. hasn't kept up with cell technology and broadband is that the last buck hasn't been wrung out of the populace.
Given the current oil price at $70.00/bbl - coupled with the ready availability of oil at that price - the U.S. ought to have people up in arms over the $2.60+ / gal. price of gasoline. The U.S. doesn't have gasoline riots and it won't have broadband riots despite overpriced monopoly limits on broadband development in the U.S.
Neither apples nor oranges....the U.S. can easily lead in any field - it chooses.
Have the U.S. beat . . .
Where are our leaders? Oh, yeah...
Bought and paid for.
Avast there! Bow down to his noodly appendage and ye shall partake of the beer volcano. Arr.
The funny thing about FSM is that it easily the best attack on the KS religon-in-school morons. This theory *will* be taught if ID is adopted. I'm ready to donate $1,000.00 towards the legal fund to bring the equal time argument to the courts. Bury the fools in foolishness...
Compaq merger against the will of the HP founders.
Carly makes big bucks for failure.
The R&D staff is worthless where no market exists for the innovation.
Dumping sales staff IS the definition of business failure.
Growth is the measure of business success.
There is no growth where R&D & sales are cut to pay for the golden parachutes.
Bush's new SEC nominee will prevent any derivitive actions.
HP is a goner.
His ads for his latest book. The book he is writing with Larry Niven, the latest Phonetics software package that his wife, the school-marm-turned-entrepreneur, the attack on Democrats, the attack on government and THEN, the current book and game...
He was a pill on Byte Information eXchange (BIX)
qqqq JP - love GRO
Right makes wrong....Chaos Manor, my arse. It was a series of ads for JP, JP's co-authors, JP's wife's business and the various computers that he deigned to "name"
Sort of the "He-Man" program of Computer Journals
Nin and Ellison - quite the comparison: "Little Birds" v. "Sex Gang" - though they both made money from their erotica I suspect that Nin had the better return on her work. As for the height comparison: it all depends on the measure....
Everybody agrees that Harlan could be a real dick....
Perhaps the horizontal measure of the man exceeded the vertical?
XP is (finally) a stable windows OS. But as someone who has worked with both Apple & Microsoft since well before Lisa/Mac and Windows - the clear winner the past few years is OSX.
.Mac integration surpasses any comparable package for general use.
Macs are damn stable little machines. The bundle is excellent and the support system is beyond excellent. The
In my experience, the costs are higher up-front with Apple, but the stability and product life are much greater than Microsoft's products. Of course, Apple has been working with their proprietary box all of these years and driver problems are far fewer than on Wintel boxes.
Censorship never entered this discussion - this was about theft and profits running to third-parties arising from the theft.
Walmart does not publish - it sells. The hypo remains valid. AOL's (then) vast userbase made them the right target. The tollway analogy fails because the bridge is a single route - all traffic uses the same route. Were Walmart is only one source (albeit a very big source) of the stolen property then it makes sense to shut down the retail outlet's ability to sell the stolen goods.
Malum per se and malum prohibitum are manifest at the retailer - the bridge is merely a path and reaches only malum prohibitum. Intent, my friend, defines the apex of the liability curve.
The problem was protecting the writer's rights - not attacking the Internet. The case was - and remains - a valid exercise of the right to petition the courts for redress of grievnces.
You want responsibility for people but none for companies who make a buck off of illegal trade. Think harder: there is liability for all or none.
When you resort to name-calling you have run out of ideas.
I'm rarely interested in flame wars, but *this* may be an exception.
You SUPPORT AOL?
Change the hypo: It's Walmart selling illegal copies (e.g. copies of your book that you (and/or your publisher) didn't authorize and the sale is one from which you don't receive a royalty - but Walmart receives their cut from every book sold.
Now, do you want Walmart stopped from making a buck from you?
AOL was the largest single source of downloaders that could be identified. AOL made a buck from the thieves.
AOL had NOTICE.
AOL ignored the notice and continued to permit tens of thousands of copies to be downloaded...for which AOL made $ for connect time.
As for hating lawyers - good - it only encourages us.
Grow up. The world is full of free riders and, absent lawyers you would be screwed.
Got seatbelts?
Taking safe meds?
Eating (mostly) safe food?
Your drinking water OK?
Can you see a mile in any direction on a clear day?
Got the right to vote, hold a job or marry a person not of your race?
Are you a woman who can vote, own land and run a business?
Does your car withstand a 5mph rear impact without bursting into flame?
Did you buy a PC without buying a bundled copy of Bill's OS?
Making minimum wage, or beyond?
Have time and a half over 40 hrs a week?
Go to a public school with people of different ethnicity?
Send your thanks to the attorneys.
Brilliant - agreed!
However I was responding to the inherent inadequacy of the term "prickly" as a descriptor of Ellison's demeanor...