totally disagree with you...this is primarily a 'thinking' movie and the ACTION is secondary. The W. Brothers even post little signs here and there throughout the film say "hey! we trying to say something here!" just in case you think they're making an action movie.
1) the book that neo keeps his minidiscs in is Baudrillard. that doesn't smell fishy to you? Neo takes his stuff from Baudrillard. 2) there are direct quotes (well almost) from "simulacra and simulations". Morpheus quotes a line from the first paragraph of the essay, "welcome to the desert of the real" when he's educating neo. 3)...well look out for more.
errmm...have you actually read any Baudrillard? The articles that Sokal cited weren't Baudrillard'
s best (are you going to judge Pink Floyd on their bicycle song?)...and anyway, the guy was on serious drugs, it's likely that some of his stuff is going to be nonsense:)
I think the biggest problem that 'critics' of post-structualism/modernism/psychoanalysis is that they haven't had the opportunity to learn the terminology. When you're writing about, among others, language itself you have to make up new words and phrases that aren't going to misconstrued or wrongly signified. hence the confusing babble that makes people think that it's all a load of "fashionable nonsense".
i think, however, that if anyone sat down with baudrillard's "simulations and simulacra" (after watching the matrix) they would find it accessible AND understandable. he actually has some good things to say.
one of the beauties of "the matrix" and the W. brothers is that they make baudrillard accessible.
I think GiantDisc is exactly what you're after. It let's you create playlists and browse your mp3/ogg collection via your palm...apparently it works over bluetooth as well, so you could even use that.
Those who could only find subtexts that any ten year old can find, shouldn't blame the source, rather their analytical skills. That the Matrix is merely a comment on Plato's "shadows on the cave wall" is oversimplifying (or dare I say it! too hard for you critics to see!). There's more to the Matrix than a first-year Introduction to Philosophy. The references to poststructuralism are explicit, and more importantly, intended. Look closely at the book that Neo keeps his mini-disc in--read the books and the theory surrounding THAT text (and understand it!), and then come back and criticise--just make sure you know what you're talking about first. Until then, maybe you should learn the first lesson that a first year philosophy student learns--just because you don't see something, it doesn't mean there's nothing there.
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totally disagree with you...this is primarily a 'thinking' movie and the ACTION is secondary. The W. Brothers even post little signs here and there throughout the film say "hey! we trying to say something here!" just in case you think they're making an action movie.
1) the book that neo keeps his minidiscs in is Baudrillard. that doesn't smell fishy to you? Neo takes his stuff from Baudrillard.
2) there are direct quotes (well almost) from "simulacra and simulations". Morpheus quotes a line from the first paragraph of the essay, "welcome to the desert of the real" when he's educating neo.
3)...well look out for more.
errmm...have you actually read any Baudrillard? The articles that Sokal cited weren't Baudrillard' s best (are you going to judge Pink Floyd on their bicycle song?)...and anyway, the guy was on serious drugs, it's likely that some of his stuff is going to be nonsense :)
I think the biggest problem that 'critics' of post-structualism/modernism/psychoanalysis is that they haven't had the opportunity to learn the terminology. When you're writing about, among others, language itself you have to make up new words and phrases that aren't going to misconstrued or wrongly signified. hence the confusing babble that makes people think that it's all a load of "fashionable nonsense".
i think, however, that if anyone sat down with baudrillard's "simulations and simulacra" (after watching the matrix) they would find it accessible AND understandable. he actually has some good things to say.
one of the beauties of "the matrix" and the W. brothers is that they make baudrillard accessible.
I think GiantDisc is exactly what you're after. It let's you create playlists and browse your mp3/ogg collection via your palm...apparently it works over bluetooth as well, so you could even use that.
Those who could only find subtexts that any ten year old can find, shouldn't blame the source, rather their analytical skills. That the Matrix is merely a comment on Plato's "shadows on the cave wall" is oversimplifying (or dare I say it! too hard for you critics to see!). There's more to the Matrix than a first-year Introduction to Philosophy. The references to poststructuralism are explicit, and more importantly, intended. Look closely at the book that Neo keeps his mini-disc in--read the books and the theory surrounding THAT text (and understand it!), and then come back and criticise--just make sure you know what you're talking about first. Until then, maybe you should learn the first lesson that a first year philosophy student learns--just because you don't see something, it doesn't mean there's nothing there.