It was actually the eve of the 0.9.9 release, 4 days after September 11th. As your email archive shows, I kept telling you to let things go - there were, and still are, worse things in the world to worry about than people giving you perceived attitude.
it's so true, and such an under-rated and un-noticed opinion. The GPL works wonders in many ways, but shits all over people in others.
It's all very well for folks like RMS to advocate developing software in exchange for crackers and stale water, while he gets quarter of a million dollar grants left, right and centre.
Strange that we've yet to hear of an 0wned smoothie, outside of some theoretical situations, and some "i already have root because i installed the box" fiddlings.
If we see a posting on bugtraq or a properly documented break-in sent to us, we'll act on it.
The first time he visited #smoothwall, he fully announced his intention, and the publication he was writing for... however there was hardly anyone there. He was pointed to Richard's email address by me, as a public IRC channel is hardly the place to conduct a press interview.
The second time he visited #smoothwall, he did not introduce himself as a journalist, nor did he say he was writing an article, and he proceeded to try and grill the channel members on the points he wrote about in the article. This is where some misunderstandings are appearing, as not everyone posting here about their IRC experience was online the first time Jürgen appeared.
There's a difference between code released from a single source that has been audited, tested and integrated by the team, and code downloaded from tumtetum.tripod.com/haxx0rme/ and slapped in without thinking about it. I'm not suggesting that ALL homebrew patches are security holes in the making, but this is a security project, not an mp3 player.
Once again, another ipcop troll/spam. ipcop is a project whose manager is spamming unrelated mailing lists about their SmoothWall fork. Yes, that's all it is, a fork. Plus it's a project that's having to be reminded by SourceForge of their obligation as a GPL-derived project by giving proper and full due credit to the project they are derived from.
"This is Misson Control, today's shuttle launch will send the crew of Discovery to the new module of the ISS to hit STOP-A and reboot the onboard SPARCstation..."
> much more advanced then the 80386s that the > US modules use.
aren't they '386s which are hardened against the higher radiation, etc in space??
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mmm SuSE ... let's look at this a second ...
... Free
... Free
... < $150
... $1,149
...
SmoothWall GPL
ClarkConnect, Gibraltar, et al
SmoothWall Commercial
SuSE Firewall on CD
Hmmm
> It was the eve of the 0.9.8 release
It was actually the eve of the 0.9.9 release, 4 days after September 11th. As your email archive shows, I kept telling you to let things go - there were, and still are, worse things in the world to worry about than people giving you perceived attitude.
Go hug a loved one or something.
</peacenik>
it's so true, and such an under-rated and un-noticed opinion. The GPL works wonders in many ways, but shits all over people in others.
It's all very well for folks like RMS to advocate developing software in exchange for crackers and stale water, while he gets quarter of a million dollar grants left, right and centre.
> your attitude towards security IS lax
I was referring to one instance of how we will react. How can we react to exploits which don't exist yet?
So what are you saying, all other magazines and publications in the world are ALWAYS wrong, and c't is ALWAYS right? Flawed argument shurely ...
What company? SmoothWall GPL, which is the version reviewed, is released under the GPL by a volunteer team of developers, testers and helpers.
Strange that we've yet to hear of an 0wned smoothie, outside of some theoretical situations, and some "i already have root because i installed the box" fiddlings.
If we see a posting on bugtraq or a properly documented break-in sent to us, we'll act on it.
actually they are two different people thousands of miles apart :)
at least they created accounts, as opposed to your trolling Anonymous self.
The first time he visited #smoothwall, he fully announced his intention, and the publication he was writing for ... however there was hardly anyone there. He was pointed to Richard's email address by me, as a public IRC channel is hardly the place to conduct a press interview.
The second time he visited #smoothwall, he did not introduce himself as a journalist, nor did he say he was writing an article, and he proceeded to try and grill the channel members on the points he wrote about in the article. This is where some misunderstandings are appearing, as not everyone posting here about their IRC experience was online the first time Jürgen appeared.
There's a difference between code released from a single source that has been audited, tested and integrated by the team, and code downloaded from tumtetum.tripod.com/haxx0rme/ and slapped in without thinking about it. I'm not suggesting that ALL homebrew patches are security holes in the making, but this is a security project, not an mp3 player.
Once again, another ipcop troll/spam. ipcop is a project whose manager is spamming unrelated mailing lists about their SmoothWall fork. Yes, that's all it is, a fork. Plus it's a project that's having to be reminded by SourceForge of their obligation as a GPL-derived project by giving proper and full due credit to the project they are derived from.
well it's the only "bad" review we've had out of a raft of them, so go figure ...
LOL ;)
we have an article taking what dang has said along with our comments on the way the article author behaved when collecting his "evidence" ...
our response
have a look at space.com - someone already has the photos, dude
> Zvezda has a Sparc station running it,
...
..."
he he, i can see it now
"This is Misson Control, today's shuttle launch will send the crew of Discovery to the new module of the ISS to hit STOP-A and reboot the onboard SPARCstation
> much more advanced then the 80386s that the
> US modules use.
aren't they '386s which are hardened against the higher radiation, etc in space??