"Reading and writing" and "language" are not the same thing. One is a skill, the other refers to the encoding and processing of information.
You've got a point there. IIRC, Charlemagne was illiterate.
Even if I were blind, deaf, dumb, and handless I could still have a logically rigorous internal monologue. Look at Steven Hawking, he can barely move and he knows everything.
For the record, Hawking isn't a super-genius version of Hellen Keller. He has Lou Gehrig's Disease. His life was normal until his early twenties. Your point is perfectly valid, but I'm not sure Hawking would have been able to accomplish as much if he had been born deaf and blind. In any event, a logically rigorous internal monologue isn't very different from reading without moving your lips.
I think you've made an important distinction. My counter-point is only that Mathematics isn't the entire scope of Human intellect. It is "thing in itself" and doesn't get you from A to B.
Well it's in Gnome's cvs repository and it depends on gnome libraries so I figured it was official in some way. IIRC, the setting for link underlining used to be in Galeon's preferences dialog before gnome2 so someone, somewhere, for some reason removed it. It could be that GNOME is just offering to host the source or wants to mirror it. I think Epiphany is supposed to be the default GNOME browser so maybe they just have a cool relationship and dropping the preference from the UI is a coincidence. If so, my bad. In any event, to me it seems like a weird thing to "dumb down".
Well if that's true then this guy can't be much more than a professional cheerleader. His "article" hardly touches on a subject that's worth talking about. I was surprised to find that the second page is also the last page. It was even stranger to read his characterization of GTK as primitive and inflexible. If I actually like GNOME and can find fault with it (pkgconfig -- what's up with that?) then why can't this guy explain his derision of GTK?
My biggest pet peeve with GNOME's new attitude is that you need to use the gconf editor to disable link underlining in Galeon. It's flabbergasting. There is a difference between simple and retarded.
How about just posting in general? Two weeks ago I did a search on Google and one of my own comments on Slashdot showed up in the first five results. It was very creepy.
If Penrose would just say, "Hey, I think computers will always be inferior to people, because if a machine can become the equal of a human, it can surpass us, and I refuse to accept that", then I would just say, "OK, that's your opinion, I have my own."
That psychological dissection can just as easily be turned around. Penrose might paint your vantage point as being motivated by a desire to live in a universe where even thought or conciousness can be generated by a Turing Machine. That view may sound innocuously scientific when phrased that way, but it can also be characterised as the ego trip of an extreme control freak. After all, mathematic description or computatability places phenomenon (at least potentially) under the dominion of Man's will. Some may find it as unpleasant to live in a mathematically incomprehensible universe (this is akin to Einstein's "God does not play dice...") as others may find it unpleasant to have their lives reduced to Boolean logic.
Understand that I don't necessarily agree with Penrose's view. I only wish to point out that the embrace of a cold, hard, reductionist, deterministic, "objective" vantage point can stem from some, uh... Human All Too Human motives.
What you're saying is that e17 was announced before Quartz Extreme was released.
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I was only pointing out that the notion wasn't an insight discovered by geniuses at Apple that non-promethean sheep can merely copy. The original poster erroneously conflated Apple's GUI architecture with the topic at hand and made a point of noting that they "beat us to it". If you go here you'll find a Slashdot article from January 21, 2001 entitled, "Rasterman's New Toy: EVAS". Evas was (still is?) his canvas library that included a (hardware accelerated) OpenGL backend. I was building it from cvs at the time, clicking "Hardware" on the demo program, and watching the FPS go nuts. E17 may never see the light of day, but the first evas (IIRC, it was dropped and rewritten) was a functioning, solid proof of concept that received a lot of attention. Jaguar was released a little more than a year and a half later on August 24, 2002.
QE is cool, but it doesn't do anything similar at all to what they're talking about here. FFTs on an NV30 are only incidentally related to texture mapping window contents. Check out gpgpu.org or BrookGPU. In a sense, the idea is to treat modern graphics hardware as the next step beyond SIMD instruction sets. Incidentally, e17 exploited (hardware) GL rendering of 2D graphics via evas a bit before Apple put that into OS X.
...Intel has jumped on the lowend with the Pentium-M.
I wouldn't be so quick to characterize the Pentium-M as a low end chip. From what I've read of it's inception, they took the P3 core, added some advancements gleaned from the development of the P4, and optimized it for power efficiency. A while back, while googling about, I found that others have wondered about PM's in an SMP configuration. That's not possible (perhaps not even in the way ABIT made the dual P3 VP6 -- i.e. with a hardware hack), but interest in this chip as a performer has at least created a market for PM based blades. This chip isn't a P4EE, but it's hardly a Celeron.
Well, regardless of your desire to nitpick I'm enthusiastic about this change in Intel's roadmap. I like what I've read about the Pentium-M's design so much that I'd consider a desktop built around it right now. It's possible to build a motherboard for it with the E7205 chipset. If someone could hack smp support (perhaps with socket adaptor?) I've got no doubt the results would seriously rock.
Someone really should compliment your humor in the moderation system. That was well written, well said, and gave me a solid chuckle. I too really dislike the personification of computers. "My Documents" and "My Computer" were creepy enough. Perhaps someday wget will start spouting off ("Hey, can I get that for ya?"). I agree that Debian's installer has sucked for reasons above and beyond the lack of a graphical option. Once I learned how to use apt I never sat through dselect or even tasksel. All I want now is a boot and a login. The rest is cake.
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/.'s lameness filter seems to mask the humor in feeble jests too.
You've got a point there. IIRC, Charlemagne was illiterate.
Even if I were blind, deaf, dumb, and handless I could still have a logically rigorous internal monologue. Look at Steven Hawking, he can barely move and he knows everything.
For the record, Hawking isn't a super-genius version of Hellen Keller. He has Lou Gehrig's Disease. His life was normal until his early twenties. Your point is perfectly valid, but I'm not sure Hawking would have been able to accomplish as much if he had been born deaf and blind. In any event, a logically rigorous internal monologue isn't very different from reading without moving your lips.
I think you've made an important distinction. My counter-point is only that Mathematics isn't the entire scope of Human intellect. It is "thing in itself" and doesn't get you from A to B.
Well it's in Gnome's cvs repository and it depends on gnome libraries so I figured it was official in some way. IIRC, the setting for link underlining used to be in Galeon's preferences dialog before gnome2 so someone, somewhere, for some reason removed it. It could be that GNOME is just offering to host the source or wants to mirror it. I think Epiphany is supposed to be the default GNOME browser so maybe they just have a cool relationship and dropping the preference from the UI is a coincidence. If so, my bad. In any event, to me it seems like a weird thing to "dumb down".
There is an intuitive logic to that given Music's strange relationship to Math and Language.
If this were entirely true you'd be able to prove it without resorting to language.
If scientific methods could be used to evaluate potential leaders why would we need to vote in the first place?
Well if that's true then this guy can't be much more than a professional cheerleader. His "article" hardly touches on a subject that's worth talking about. I was surprised to find that the second page is also the last page. It was even stranger to read his characterization of GTK as primitive and inflexible. If I actually like GNOME and can find fault with it (pkgconfig -- what's up with that?) then why can't this guy explain his derision of GTK?
My biggest pet peeve with GNOME's new attitude is that you need to use the gconf editor to disable link underlining in Galeon. It's flabbergasting. There is a difference between simple and retarded.
How about just posting in general? Two weeks ago I did a search on Google and one of my own comments on Slashdot showed up in the first five results. It was very creepy.
Hey, ya know what? It may be the vino talking, but that's kinda fucked. :)
That psychological dissection can just as easily be turned around. Penrose might paint your vantage point as being motivated by a desire to live in a universe where even thought or conciousness can be generated by a Turing Machine. That view may sound innocuously scientific when phrased that way, but it can also be characterised as the ego trip of an extreme control freak. After all, mathematic description or computatability places phenomenon (at least potentially) under the dominion of Man's will. Some may find it as unpleasant to live in a mathematically incomprehensible universe (this is akin to Einstein's "God does not play dice...") as others may find it unpleasant to have their lives reduced to Boolean logic.
Understand that I don't necessarily agree with Penrose's view. I only wish to point out that the embrace of a cold, hard, reductionist, deterministic, "objective" vantage point can stem from some, uh... Human All Too Human motives.
Is there any possible role for NURBS in a game engine? Can contemporary GPUs offer any hardware assistance to utilizing them?
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I was only pointing out that the notion wasn't an insight discovered by geniuses at Apple that non-promethean sheep can merely copy. The original poster erroneously conflated Apple's GUI architecture with the topic at hand and made a point of noting that they "beat us to it". If you go here you'll find a Slashdot article from January 21, 2001 entitled, "Rasterman's New Toy: EVAS". Evas was (still is?) his canvas library that included a (hardware accelerated) OpenGL backend. I was building it from cvs at the time, clicking "Hardware" on the demo program, and watching the FPS go nuts. E17 may never see the light of day, but the first evas (IIRC, it was dropped and rewritten) was a functioning, solid proof of concept that received a lot of attention. Jaguar was released a little more than a year and a half later on August 24, 2002.
QE is cool, but it doesn't do anything similar at all to what they're talking about here. FFTs on an NV30 are only incidentally related to texture mapping window contents. Check out gpgpu.org or BrookGPU. In a sense, the idea is to treat modern graphics hardware as the next step beyond SIMD instruction sets. Incidentally, e17 exploited (hardware) GL rendering of 2D graphics via evas a bit before Apple put that into OS X.
I wouldn't be so quick to characterize the Pentium-M as a low end chip. From what I've read of it's inception, they took the P3 core, added some advancements gleaned from the development of the P4, and optimized it for power efficiency. A while back, while googling about, I found that others have wondered about PM's in an SMP configuration. That's not possible (perhaps not even in the way ABIT made the dual P3 VP6 -- i.e. with a hardware hack), but interest in this chip as a performer has at least created a market for PM based blades. This chip isn't a P4EE, but it's hardly a Celeron.
I'd like to see ATI and Matrox merge.
There, happy now? :)
I think the real question here is how much faster Domino's will deliver once there's a ebuild written for it.
Well, regardless of your desire to nitpick I'm enthusiastic about this change in Intel's roadmap. I like what I've read about the Pentium-M's design so much that I'd consider a desktop built around it right now. It's possible to build a motherboard for it with the E7205 chipset. If someone could hack smp support (perhaps with socket adaptor?) I've got no doubt the results would seriously rock.
You can also find 170mm fans designed to run on 12 Volts.
Connect your windows box to the internet.
Someone really should compliment your humor in the moderation system. That was well written, well said, and gave me a solid chuckle. I too really dislike the personification of computers. "My Documents" and "My Computer" were creepy enough. Perhaps someday wget will start spouting off ("Hey, can I get that for ya?"). I agree that Debian's installer has sucked for reasons above and beyond the lack of a graphical option. Once I learned how to use apt I never sat through dselect or even tasksel. All I want now is a boot and a login. The rest is cake.
It could be a liability if you're dealing with a headless machine and want to use a serial console.
If you're running unstable the package name is libc6-i686. It installs in addition to libc6 and only kicks in with a 2.6 kernel.
Check out noflushd.