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How To Get Googled, By Hook Or By Crook

Mr. Christmas Lights writes "There is a Search Engine Optimization contest that just started up. For those that don't know about SEO, it's basically the process of optimizing a web page and links to insure a high ranking on search engine, with Google being the main search engine of interest. There are countless debates on the best approach. Note that there are 'white hat' and definitely 'black hat' methods (using the later can get you banned by Google - a risk some people seem willing to take! ;-)" Read more on this contest below.

Mr. Christmas Lights continues: "So some folks in the SEO community decided to have a 2 month contest where they made up a nonsense keyword phrase (nigritude ultramarine), and they will award a iPod and a 17" LCD (big spenders, eh?) to whoever ends up #1 in Google a month and two months from now - read more contest details at Dark Blue's SEOChallenge and follow the progress at www.seochallenge.com.

As you can imagine, there will be all sorts of wild web pages out there - for example, take a look at this "optimized" URL for nigritude ultramarine : www.nigritude-ultramarine.com/nigritude-ultramarin e/nigritude-ultramarine.asp and I'm sure there will be plenty of other entertaining entries - you can do a Google Search yourself to see who's currently on top.

Note to Slashdot Editors: I have NOT entered the contest - buncha SEO pro's are involved and a hobbiest (at best) like me (who doesn't stray over to the dark side - I like Google! ;-) would get spanked."

310 comments

  1. Hmm. by Quasar1999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about posting an article on slashdot? That will get you on google in no time flat!

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    1. Re:Hmm. by fname · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, that should work. But look at it this way: if I were a betting man on which site "wins" the contest, I betchya that this Slashdot article has a pretty good chance. Many other blogs will post here and to the contest site, and I bet those 2 are in the top 5. Since Slashdot has such a high pagerank to begin with, this Slashdot article might just win the contest. Buggers.

      Damn that Heisenberg.

    2. Re:Hmm. by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Informative

      But only after the page is moved off of the dynamic content area.

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    3. Re:Hmm. by no+longer+myself · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Well, not the article itself mind you: Make a +5 comment and have a hyperlink to your site in the post. I prefer to use it in the sig in case I ever have the need to change/remove it.

      The bots *DO* read Slashdot comments, and give preferential treatment to posts that receive high scores. If you don't know how to add anything constructive to a conversation, you probably shouldn't attempt this, because it's a waste of time for yourself and everyone else.

      In my own experience, it works like a charm to attract the bots like Google, Slurp, AJ, and the like, however it generally does little to attract actual people who are mostly too wary of potential troll links.

      Don't get me wrong, I like getting visited by Google, but I'd prefer real people. I suppose having a site worth visiting wouldn't hurt either... ;-)

    4. Re:Hmm. by tanguyr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, Slashdot stuff usually winds up in the news section (this article is already there) rather than the web section of google. Guess they bought that "news for nerds" baloney.

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    5. Re:Hmm. by josh3736 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      As I am not sure how robots.txt works, I cannot say for sure, but at the top, there is an entry for "mediapartners-google" that allows the entire site.

      Does the following * user-agent also apply to Google or not? If not, he will indeed get on Google in no time flat.

    6. Re:Hmm. by bhtooefr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      mediapartners-google is the Google AdSense system, and yahoo-newscrawler must be Yahoo's news system, which might be used by Google, seeing as they get /. news fairly quick.

    7. Re:Hmm. by treat · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Damn that Heisenberg.

      It's cute to say things like this, but it's important to remember why it's wrong. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is *not* about photons bouncing off of atoms and disrupting them or any such thing, although obvservation altering the subject in this sort of way is important in every discipline.

    8. Re:Hmm. by Neophytus · · Score: 0, Redundant

      nigritude ultramarine should do the trick

    9. Re:Hmm. by goon+america · · Score: 1

      Nope, check the robots.txt. Everything except for the google news bot is banned.

    10. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF are you talking about? He never said anything about photons, and then you just conclude by reiterating his point which we all understood anyway.

    11. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heisenberg slept here. Or somewhere near here. We're not really sure.

    12. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn, wish i still had moderator points. Nearly fell out of my chair laughing at that one. I'm surprised i haven't heard that one before.

    13. Re:Hmm. by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If the site looks like news, and has an RSS feed, they put it up quickly. Google News was ignoring FreeInternetPress.com , but once we put up the link for the RSS feeds, they picked us up. Now just about every story we publish gets posted.

      And this looks like a good place to tell you about The Nigritude Ultramarine attack submarine. I'd laugh if I even show up in the top 100.

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    14. Re:Hmm. by dgmartin98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd have to disagree. From experience, I've noticed that my URL listing at the top of my comments (line immediately above this) allows people to search for my online resume. This URL above in Slashdot is the only place I've ever advertised my online resume.

      See for yourself, do a search for "vancouver electrical engineer wireless hardware". The second item there will be me (as of today, anyways). Higher pagerank than the IEEE Communications Society in Vancouver, even.

      Dave

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    15. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just made my own nigritude ultramarine site. Check it out! nigritude ultramarine

    16. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, Google uses RSS feeds to power Google news?

    17. Re:Hmm. by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      > So, Google uses RSS feeds to power Google news?

      That is a surprise?

    18. Re:Hmm. by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      Heh, since I have my URL in the top of my posts, search engines definitely found me ;P Seems MSN just started indexing it somewhat fanatically as well.. rise in visits from google is also more then just noticable..

      Luckily, google and friends also get me real visitors (and so do the posts on slashdot for that matter)

      Gonna make some changes to my site the commign days to see what it does, google comes by so often now that it should pick them up in no-time ;P

    19. Re:Hmm. by OverlordQ · · Score: 0

      You mean like this?

      (http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/09/1840217.s ht ml)

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    20. Re:Hmm. by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Yup.

      Well, they don't explicity say it, but it seems to be true.

      What was most evident to me was that they always linked wrong page on my site. Well, it was accurate for getting to a story, but not the best choice.

      I just searched for slashdot.org on news.google.com, and sorted it by date. The most recent story they had was: "More Light Shed on Project David"

      news.google.com showed:
      More Light Shed on Project David
      Slashdot - 12 hours ago
      Sun writes "Flexbeta.net received from Specops Labs screenshots "proving" that project David (previously covered here) is a real thing. The demo.... ...
      http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/02/03/0140215. shtml ?tid=99

      But Slashdot has this link:
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/09 /134253 &mode=nested&tid=125&tid=185

      Which is consistant with what Slashdot has in their RSS feed.

      http://slashdot.org/search.pl?content_type=rss

      It's not just a straight RSS feed. For FreeInternetPress.com, they let the majority of the stories show up somewhere in their searches. Good stories make it to their front page, if there are lots of other sites covering the same story (funny that). I'd think their front page decision is a formula derived by the number of sites containing similiar words. Sometimes we've had stories listed on their front page with others, that didn't have anything to do with the title story.. Human error??

      Google News soemtimes changes our titles, and a few times has taken pictures from our stories, and put them with other news outlets text. But, they're careful to attribute where everything came from.

      They don't always post our stories. If they story is a rant (which happens from time to time), or very contriversial, it won't be picked up by Google News, so submissions aren't completely automated. There's some sort of human intervention in the middle.

      Funny, handling of Slashdot.org by Google News seems very hit and miss. Maybe there's some fans there, that approve everything, and then some who could care less.

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    21. Re:Hmm. by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 1

      That's VERY true. When you type in my alias, SphericalCrusher, in a google search, the majority of the links ARE from SlashDot. GO /.!!!

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    22. Re:Hmm. by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
      Guess they bought that "news for nerds" baloney.

      They also bought that "All the news that's fit to print" crap from that NY outfit. "All the news that fits, 'To print!'"

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    23. Re:Hmm. by nzin · · Score: 1

      Good idea, I should try with my own one :)
      sorry for the trash.
      I loved the "mangeur d'hirondelle" contest too.
      I make me remembering about unmeaning text generator. like pipotron, and so on.

    24. Re:Hmm. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Informative

      Warning: his sig is NOT work-safe.

    25. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    26. Re:Hmm. by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

      We know Heisenberg slept exactly HERE, but we have no idea how fast asleep he was!

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    27. Re:Hmm. by Crazy+Eight · · Score: 1

      How about just posting in general? Two weeks ago I did a search on Google and one of my own comments on Slashdot showed up in the first five results. It was very creepy.

    28. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just added an RSS feed to my Nigritude Ultramarine site also, but I very much doubt it'll help much.

    29. Re:Hmm. by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Tricky. :)

      But, it looks like a Lot of people are into this contest. :)

      I'm now at 285 of the 582 listed on my site, which is queried from the target search engine. You're currently at 372.

      Good luck.

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  2. What about black hat SEO by Random+Web+Developer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are entries rejected from the contest if they are using dubious tactics? It's fairly easy to go about spamming links all over the place with the appropriate link texts and stuff like invisible text, which still aren't adequately detected.

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    1. Re:What about black hat SEO by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

      I would guess the easiest way is to just let Google staff or whatever methods it employs to take care of this.

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    2. Re:What about black hat SEO by Space_Soldier · · Score: 0

      How about "DO NO EVIL" to apply not only to Google, but also, to its users.

    3. Re:What about black hat SEO by wavecoder · · Score: 1

      See, the problem with that is that it would kill my client base. All the people who hired "no holds barred" SEO firms, get banned, then hire me, would do so no more.

      1) Everybody be nice
      2) Client base dries up
      3) ????
      4) Profit!

    4. Re:What about black hat SEO by Myen · · Score: 1

      Considering that this particular contest is something that Google would likely want to discourage, since search engine spamming would hurt their credibility (by returning less relevant results)...

      I wonder if Google would special case this search (manual intervention, as I believe has been done before) to have the top search point to their own page or something...

  3. Must.. optimize... froogle by aenters · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nobody cares about the rankings on froogle. Poor google.

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    1. Re:Must.. optimize... froogle by Cyno01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Froogle could do with a better interface. More of a grid like pricegrabber, as it is its just hard to read and compare prices.

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    2. Re:Must.. optimize... froogle by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Has anyone looked at optimizing ranking on Booble?

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    3. Re:Must.. optimize... froogle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean like this:

      http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid=navcl ie nt&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tiled=1&q=plutoni um

    4. Re:Must.. optimize... froogle by ajna · · Score: 1

      So sort by price on the left side of the page. Example search sorted by price, in their pseudo-grid (not the kind of grid that pricegrabber has).

    5. Re:Must.. optimize... froogle by Technician · · Score: 1

      That's the problem of artificialy trying to change the rating of a page. What nobody cares about tries to get on top making the searches irrevelant.

      For example, I was trying to find the shelf life on different types of batteries. The first couple pages of results had noting to do with battery shelf life. No if I was actualy ready to buy a battery, I was deffinately in the right place, but research results simply get buried in the advertising driven pages making the research difficult by providing worthless results. Come on guys, quit wrecking Google results. Stick to Froogle so I can find you when I want to buy, but please stop contaminating the research results.

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    6. Re:Must.. optimize... froogle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whats a froogle?

  4. The Fighting Force by bigben7187 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The current 3rd result showcases the "Nigritude Ultramarine Fighting Force" who are "doing our part for the department of homeland security." Actually, I suspect they might be even more capable than said department...

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  5. i'll be curious to see what they come up with by quelrods · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sure their techniques will cause google to make such tricks harder in the future. Many of you are familiar with people creating nonsense link pages to drive their own rating up and the various things google put in place to make this harder. Now they need a contest on how to get delisted, I still have a domain name that hasn't been used in 3 years that is in google.

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    1. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm sure their techniques will cause google to make such tricks harder in the future. Many of you are familiar with people creating nonsense link pages to drive their own rating up and the various things google put in place to make this harder.

      That can be a good thing - stop the spammers doing their thing, and forcing commercial junk that's only relevant to the owners/advertisers on a site into google. Let google evolve into something better, bit by bit.

      Personally, I'm all for just creating damned good content, and people will come across it and link to it on their own. No effort other than Creating Good Content. No need to spam, flood forums with links, or otherwise make people link to you that otherwise wouldn't

      Now they need a contest on how to get delisted, I still have a domain name that hasn't been used in 3 years that is in google.

      heh. Yahoo still contains a page of mine that's 18 months gone as the main link to my page. Talk about out of date.

    2. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by LoganEkz · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Now they need a contest on how to get delisted, I still have a domain name that hasn't been used in 3 years that is in google."

      If you want to get removed, Google has some information on how.

    3. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amiga Lover: Yahoo still contains a page of mine that's 18 months gone as the main link to my page. Talk about out of date.

      Perhaps they saw your login name and assumed you wouldn't mind?

    4. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      So get it removed.

    5. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by Uber+Banker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Perhaps this is a plan organised by Google to get the uber-|337 SEOs to disclose their methods, thus act against them.

    6. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it would be really great if Google replaced all results for this search with "Piss Off". Maybe someone should submit the various urls for removal?

    7. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1
      I get quite emotional about stuff that isn't good content.

      I was going to send some flowers to someone, and went looking for a florist in their town using Google. It took 3 pages before I found a local florist. The rest were mail order companies with hundreds of pages set up, presumably one for each town in the UK, and I imagine with link farms galore.

      I won't deal with companies who use such strategies.

    8. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      if yahoo is still listing stuff thats gone 404 long since, make sure your webserver is returning 404 in its http headers, some servers that use customised 404 pages or configured incorrectly return a 200 page found or redirect with a 302 status instead of the correct 404,
      what this means is the SE bot checks the status of the link and as it didnt get a 404 it presumes the links still valid and so doesnt remove it from the db

    9. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by pdp0x14 · · Score: 1

      In application to the tin-foil hat club, I hereby suggest that Google itself sponsored this contest in order to identify the best techniques for gaming the system.

    10. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would mean it's not checking the content of pages in 18 months, and while it may carry pages that are valid and were valid 18 months ago, they're not checking for any new content in the pages, which is distressing.

    11. Re:i'll be curious to see what they come up with by stoborrobots · · Score: 1

      Since yahoo is a directory, and not a search engine, I'd assume that that means they don't have a weekly update cycle for their links (Inktomi/Overture search services excluded.)

      Am I mistaken?

  6. a new topic by Dreadlord · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is the very first story in the Google topic BTW.

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    1. Re:a new topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's about goddamn time they finally made a topic for Google.

    2. Re:a new topic by fastdecade · · Score: 1

      With about 12 stories a day on the subject, about time.

      Note to worldwide media: It's a search engine, yes it has a colorful logo, but get back to your news and stuff.

    3. Re:a new topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it isn't you twit. This stupid review that doesn't show anything new is.

  7. dear me by mr_tommy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It surely is a nice project with some very fancy prizes, but has anyone thought of what Google's response is going to be?! Wham! Thanks for telling us the techniques to beat our own system guys - we'll now be altering it so that this is no longer a problem. :S

    1. Re:dear me by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Good. Firstly, it improves the Google results. Secondly, it makes the next competition more challenging. What's the downside?

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    2. Re:dear me by tanguyr · · Score: 1

      not to mention: what's the difference? Google already tweaks to penalize any abuse of their system. Their business depends on delivering the best links from the user's point of view.

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    3. Re:dear me by mar1boro · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can think of a couple of downsides.
      1) They used a _real_ word for the contest. Ultramarine may not be common,
      but this will eventually fubar legitimate searches. A random string would
      have been a better measure.
      2) This is a contest being run by an Ad-Company so that they can glean the
      best techniques for getting their ads in the first 3 pages on a Google
      search. Nothing more.

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    4. Re:dear me by cookie_cutter · · Score: 1, Redundant

      My guess is that the whole contest is sponsored behind-the-scenes by Google so they can see what methods the black-hats (and to a lesser degree, the white-hats) are using. Makes it a whole lot easier.

    5. Re:dear me by pcgamez · · Score: 1

      I can tell right now that you do not work on SEO very often. If you did, you would know that Google does not care.

    6. Re:dear me by bkhl · · Score: 1

      ...which would result in better search results for everyone. What's the problem?

    7. Re:dear me by farghen · · Score: 1

      Yes, but if they used a random string, they would not be competing with other search terms. Their stuff would come up at the top by default.

    8. Re:dear me by paulkoan · · Score: 2, Funny

      The downside is that I am now going to have to find a new name for my nigritude ultramarine paint. Such a nigritude sea blue, no other name really describes it. Not to mention all the legitimate search engine optimising companies I have already paid in preparation for the launch. Sigh... ---

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    9. Re:dear me by mar1boro · · Score: 1

      As I understood the aim of the experiment - the goal is not to compete with unrelated search terms. The aim is to see if you can cause your page to float higher than other pages using the same unique search term. For this, everyone involved could have performed the same experiment using "ducrsjj wsxtyhv," for instance.

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    10. Re:dear me by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      Nigritude is also a word.

    11. Re:dear me by irokitt · · Score: 1

      I would asssume that Google will just take that particular webpage off of their servers.

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    12. Re:dear me by Underholdning · · Score: 1

      I agree with mar1boro. The information that the ad-company will gain by throwing a contest like this, far exceeds the prices you can win. It's a brilliant idea though (from the companys point of view).

    13. Re:dear me by bertas28 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and let's block ad companies from working with open source too. Get real: as long as the work goes into the community, where's the harm in it?

  8. I know this might sound controversial, but. by James+A.+O.+Joyce · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But I think I ought to raise a problem with Google, which this contest simply serves to underline: Google is too easily gamed. After all, just take a look at what the bloggers have done for the phrase "miserable failure". All it takes is an aggrieved group of a couple of dozen individuals and they can push anything up the ranks of Google. It's not that hard to knock someone's rank down by a bit just by getting a bunch of people to delink them. When Google recaches, their rank falls...

    1. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful
      But "miserable failure" was easily subverted because it's not a particularly interesting phrase in the first place. I'd be much more convenced if you managed to make your personal blog come up as the #1 hit for "news."

      Still, I'm no fan of the competition this story is about. It's no more or less than a competition to find ways to lessen the usefulness of the Web by giving more power to "spammers" (in the loose sense of the word).

    2. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      bbspot once had the top hit for the word "the" from google. talk about power. "the"

    3. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seems The Onion is more important than The White House :D

    4. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by Senator_B · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But "miserable failure" was easily subverted because it's not a particularly interesting phrase in the first place. I'd be much more convenced if you managed to make your personal blog come up as the #1 hit for "news."

      Just an interesting side note, Slashdot is on the second page for "news" on google (15th search result).

    5. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by wmspringer · · Score: 1

      Oh, that was a group of bloggers? I thought that was a legitimate search result! ;-)

    6. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Google can be gamed--in the short run. Look at Scientology's attempt to game Google by registering many hundreds of domains with cookie-cutter sites that linked to each other, mainly running off of a handful of servers. :^) They did well for a little while until Google adapted to their bombing. Then CoS tried a bogus DMCA attack which back-fired. They've even tried blogbombing with little results. Their only non-failure is to buy a lot of Adword placements.

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    7. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by maaleron · · Score: 1

      And now it's The Onion. I dunno what's worse...

    8. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by pseudochaotic · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has done it too - remember "litigious bastards"?

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    9. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about. George Bush is the number one link for "miserable failure".

    10. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by Hanji · · Score: 1

      Don't know if BBSpot ever had "the" - I think The Onion has that one in the bag, but it was, and still is, the top for are.

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    11. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by rednox · · Score: 1

      They actually subverted the listing for the keyword "failure" by itself, not just the phrase "miserable failure". That must have taken a lot more work.

    12. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by naoiseo · · Score: 1

      Actually it's not so easy. try ranking for a term that makes you money. Now think of the other four thousand people trying to rank for it... there's only one number one spot. Ranking for the term miserable failure is easy, because there is no competition.

      I do this for a living, I'm an SEO. This contest is a joke in the professional community, and no self respecting SEO is going to enter it. They're all busy making money.

      Stupid publicity stunts. No substance.

    13. Re:I know this might sound controversial, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just can't win against all spammers because their sites look exactly the same as legit sites to a robot/parser.

      When altavista.digital tried to block all spam they ended up screwing their whole index and it caused a webmaster/surfer backlash from which they never recovered.

      It's not surprising to me that the guy winning this contest at the moment is using a 1998 keyword stuffing/spam method.

      Things don't change around here.

  9. Crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out the actual entries there are for the similar phrase negritude ultramarine

  10. Advertising by ghack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dark Blue being an advertising agent...surely the techniques of the winner will end up in some sort of ad scheme...

    1. Re:Advertising by popirate · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Are the winners required to share their techniques to claim the prize? Or will the winners themselves end up getting offers in exchance for their services...

    2. Re:Advertising by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      Are the winners required to share their techniques to claim the prize?

      The winners' pages are going to be ranked, indexed, and cached by Google. My question is, how would they avoid sharing their techniques? (Even if they block Google from caching, they've still got to leave their web pages up until the end of the contest...)

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    3. Re:Advertising by popirate · · Score: 1

      I was thinking more along the lines of specific amounts of external links, etc.

    4. Re:Advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      Posted here:

      I just couldn't miss the opportunity to join the nigritude ultramarine craze!

      It is not the winning that matters it's the participation that gives you the joy!!!

      Seriously, though, SEO people showed us once again that the large number of the decentralized groups will always have tactical advantage in the big Goliath's strategic war on spam.

      Essentially "Nigritude Ultramarine Challenge" is a bright idea of someone at DarkBlue.com spam-house where for the price of an iPod and 17" Flat Screen LCD they will get lots of publicity, backlinks and a glance at the alternative rank boosting technics from the amateur SEOs from all over the world.

      I was expecting that Google will do something of a similar nature, but the spammers did it first. Unless the Google team, famous for its secretiveness, is already working on a Google sponsored activity involving a large group of SEOs dancing to its tune :)

      I doubt that any serious "white hat" or "black hat" will participate in the Nigritude contest unless they have too much spare time on their hands and too much spare PR on their pages. Most likely it will be self proclaimed SEO gurus of the young age willing to show off their SEO skills to win the challenge. And, undoubtedly, there will be a few good tricks that will take time for the google engineers to patch and will make some money for the senior SearchGuild members in the mean time.

      [And NO - I am not putting a link to the www.seochallenge.com site!]

  11. Here's tips on using Slashdot to abuse Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Don't worry about your sig. Slashdot has them turned off on the pages that Google indexes.

    2. Google does index the story entries, so if you submit one, and you include a web page, make your "submitter name" the words you want indexed. Feel free to include other links in the story submission to your site if it fits.

    3. Post "Informative" things with links in them using keywords.

    4. Make sure you use the website feature of your profile, every post you write will have a link to it.

  12. The bare bones of search engine optimization by broothal · · Score: 5, Informative

    This should be obligatory reading, followed by this . It's amazing how many people are paying search engine optimizers to tell them what these links says.

    1. Re:The bare bones of search engine optimization by Quasar1999 · · Score: 1

      Sweet! Now I can quit my day job and be a search engine optimizer guy... Thanks for providing me with all the info I need to seperate thousands of people trying to be the 'next big thing' on the web from their money! :)

      Seriously, I am sure at least 10 people will try and use the info in your links to rip someone off... it's a sad fact... but it's a fact.

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    2. Re:The bare bones of search engine optimization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using "this" as link text will certainly not give you a better ranking on search engines.

    3. Re:The bare bones of search engine optimization by bcrowell · · Score: 1
      There are various nonprofit, white-hat, third party sites that give information about how to optimize for Google. If you just want to do a little white-hat optimization, here are a few basics:
      • Links pointing into your site from the outside are good, but links that are reciprocated (you link to them, they link to you) are better, because they have a synergistic effect.
      • An outbound link from your site that is not reciprocated will hurt your page rank. It may make sense to segregate outgoing links into a separate page on your site, so that unreciprocated links don't bring down the rank of the pages that you really want people to hit via Google.
      • The sum of the page ranks of any self-contained set of pages equals the number of pages in the set. If absolutely nobody links to your site, and your site consists of 37 pages, then the total page rank of all the pages on the site will be 37. Anything you do to the internal organization of your site will just affect how the total is distributed within your own site.
    4. Re:The bare bones of search engine optimization by GreenPickles · · Score: 1

      Boy it sounds like you don't know very much about search engine optimization. Sure, that will tell you the very very very basics of doing search engine optimization. Check out this page Seo Tutorial for more information. There's a lot more to it than just that... PR, Outgoing links, incomming links, incomming link titles, properly formed first paragraphs... SEO folks need to be studdying the engines all the time... try getting into the top 10 for google under the search string "business". You'll find some competition. Or better yet search under "SEO" or "SEO optimization." You'll find some competition there. They pay people big money because people in general don't have time to study this stuff. -Matt

  13. We have a winner! by Eponymous+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wouldn't it be just hilarious if this Slashdot article actually made it to #1 on Google for nigritude ultramarine and stuck there?

    Who gets the prize money then? :-D

    Everybody, link back here!

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    1. Re:We have a winner! by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Informative

      Remember, the link has to SAY nigritude ultramarine ;^)

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    2. Re:We have a winner! by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 5, Informative

      A better link would be nigritude ultramarine. Your's would just link the keyword "here" with the article.

    3. Re:We have a winner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    4. Re:We have a winner! by Vann_v2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      When discussing nigritude ultramarine it is important to understand the impact of nigritude ultramarine on nigritude ultramarine.

      If slashdot wins, does that mean we all get to share an iPod and a 17" LCD monitor?

    5. Re:We have a winner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Personally I prefer nigritude ultramarine.

    6. Re:We have a winner! by NigritudeUltramarine · · Score: 1

      If I link here, do I need to use any special keywords??

    7. Re:We have a winner! by caramelcarrot · · Score: 1

      Well, I could do with a fraction of an ipod... bags on the case!

      nigritude ultramarine

    8. Re:We have a winner! by danila · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yep. That would mean about 3 seconds of MP3 music and 1.5 pixels per account.

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    9. Re:We have a winner! by betelgeuse-4 · · Score: 1

      Slashdot's made it as top nigritude ultramarine story on Google News

    10. Re:We have a winner! by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Check robots.txt. All article.pl links are disallowed! Your link will do absolutely nothing. If you want to create a proper link, you'll need to link to the non-perl page, eg:

      Find information on nigritude ultramarine today!

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    11. Re:We have a winner! by krumms · · Score: 1

      I'd appreciate it if you didn't go flashing your nigritude ultramarine thingy at me, thank you very much!

      Y'know, it's actually really hard to put nigritude ultramarine into any sort of meaningful context, which pretty much sucks. But that's not going to stop me from talking about (or even google bombing) nigritude ultramarine within the context of the Slashdot web site. Specifically, I'm referring to the article about nigritude ultramarine. Just in case you didn't know why there's so many references to nigritude ultramarine in this particular post.

    12. Re:We have a winner! by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      I call the nigritude ultramarine iPod Mini's 4 GB HD (see link).

      Really though, I was googles top #1 for misspelling frootsies - though I'm not any more- but maybeI will be again.

    13. Re:We have a winner! by JonnyQabbala · · Score: 0
      Yep. That would mean about 3 seconds of MP3 music and 1.5 pixels per account.

      But subscribers would get them first!

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    14. Re:We have a winner! by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      If slashdot wins, does that mean we all get to share an iPod and a 17" LCD monitor?

      Yeap; your portion will be the 213,760th block of 412 bytes on the iPod, and the red and green subpixels of (760, 452) on the screen

      And you can do whatever you want with the winnings!

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  14. Re:crossconnects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try googling for gay losers, I bet it'll come up first!

  15. How they do it. by caluml · · Score: 5, Informative

    The main secret is to search for a certain phrase, and then analyse the top results. This tells you things such as if the phrase boldened up to 3 times in the page helps, but maybe, for example, if it is boldened more than 3 times, it isn't counted so effectively. The title, the META tags, the page, H1-5 tags, bold etc, all count. But you have to work out how many you can put before Google thinks you're just trying to boost your ratings.

    1. Re:How they do it. by nkh · · Score: 1

      But how would you check CSS modified pages? If I create a class named etchwane that looks exactly like a real H1?

    2. Re:How they do it. by scragz · · Score: 1

      You would want to use a real H1 if you were doing correct CSS formatting. Divs and spans are only there if there isn't a semantically correct existing tag.

    3. Re:How they do it. by nsingapu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The main secret is to search for a certain phrase, and then analyse the top results. This tells you things such as if the phrase boldened up to 3 times in the page helps, but maybe, for example, if it is boldened more than 3 times, it isn't counted so effectively. The title, the META tags, the page, H1-5 tags, bold etc, all count. But you have to work out how many you can put before Google thinks you're just trying to boost your ratings.

      That is a load of nonsense. Studying the page in question shows you "on page" factors, and on page factors are only one part of the manner in which google determines results (and very arguable an almost trivial part at that).

      You dont need to see why a phrase is in top position at the moment - as there is one factor that trumps all - anchortext (the text used as the link). Competitive phrases like search engine optimization and their allinanchor counterparts demonstrate this quite throughly, for any competitive phrase there is a very high corelation between anchor text and the results. Designing a site to get good search results at the moment involve desiging a site that uses internal links effectively and getting external links to your site - messing with on page factors (for a single page) will get you nowhere.

    4. Re:How they do it. by caluml · · Score: 3, Funny
      That is a load of nonsense.

      Is it? My Slashdot ID is lower than yours, so I am right. Take that, Windows-using infidel.

    5. Re:How they do it. by hardcode · · Score: 1

      Both of you to your rooms! ;)

    6. Re:How they do it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better... Both of you get a room! :)

    7. Re:How they do it. by jbrw · · Score: 1

      hush now!

      kids today? tch!

    8. Re:How they do it. by kuroth · · Score: 1

      Silly subscribers, with their artifically-low id numbers.

    9. Re:How they do it. by caluml · · Score: 1

      I am humbled in the presence of greatness. Please forgive me, Father.

    10. Re:How they do it. by Zixia · · Score: 2, Funny

      You dont need to see why a phrase is in top position at the moment - as there is one factor that trumps all - anchortext (the text used as the link).

      Does that mean that if one performs a search for "click here" we can find the least functional web sites?

    11. Re:How they do it. by complete+loony · · Score: 1
      Adobe,
      Flash,
      RealPlayer,
      QuickTime,
      InternetExplorer

      You might be on to something.

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  16. Hack the contest! by Jerf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hack the contest. Googlebomb "nigritude ultramarine" to http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/09/184021 7 . That's this article, stripped of all the other crap.

    I'm planning on doing it, and I'm not a Google monster, but I'm not a Google slouch either; I have a pretty decent amount of Google juice for a one-man site.

    Note that mostly likely, links from Slashdot to Slashdot won't count any, so no point in linking in comments here.

    1. Re:Hack the contest! by Random+Web+Developer · · Score: 2, Informative

      If enough people link to it with that as a link text, that should work

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    2. Re:Hack the contest! by Neophytus · · Score: 1
      I've added a silent link to a pagerank 3 and a pagerank 4 site:
      <div style="display:none;"><a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/09/ 1840217">nigritude ultramarine</a></div>
      slashdot has added a space in the topic SID so you will have to remove that yourself
    3. Re:Hack the contest! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      I have a pretty decent amount of Google juice for a one-man site.

      Don't be so cocky. It's not the amount of Google juice you have that matters; it's how well you spray it.

    4. Re:Hack the contest! by jacquesm · · Score: 1

      Ok, I'm game. ww.com menu on the left. This should be fun! They'd better change the contest phrase :)

    5. Re:Hack the contest! by nacturation · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Too bad robots.txt disallows indexing of article.pl pages! Link to the shtml page (http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/09/1840217.sht ml?tid=126&tid=217&tid=95) instead:

      nigritude ultramarine will help your nigritude get more ultramarine today!

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    6. Re:Hack the contest! by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      Guys, it's not working. slashdot isn't in the results yet.

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    7. Re:Hack the contest! by DenialS · · Score: 1

      Google is too smart for you. "Silent links" (invisible links) are discarded by the search engine, which actually does analyze CSS to determine what would be visible to a regular human being, and how emphasized that text is. Invisible text = thrown out (or if you're really bad, means that your pages will be removed from the Google index entirely).

  17. Re:Typo in story: Latter by frisket · · Score: 4, Funny
    #! /bin/sh
    #
    # Main Google search script
    # Copyright &#169; 2004 Google, almost-Inc

    grep http://*.*.*/* $1 |\
    # mod #42 2004-05-09
    grep -Ev '(nigritude|ultramarine)'
  18. Great by al.cx · · Score: 1

    Because as we all know, Google is a marketing tool designed to drive as many visitors to your website as possible.

    It's people like this that are killing Google, and the usefulness of search engines in general.

    1. Re:Great by mirror_dude · · Score: 0

      Actually this contest is really useful for google.
      All of half-wit SEOs out there will be pulling out their bag of tricks to win. Google can then take a look and see what methods are being used to artifially increase rankings and then work out ways around them.
      I wouldnt be suprised if google sponsored a couple of contests like this (on the sly of course...)

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  19. Phew... by Hobbex · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is a good thing that no google engineers read slashdot.org, and that even if they did, they would never want to mess up a competition between people who professionally abuse their service regarding who is best at it...

    If I were google, I would wait until the day before the deadline and then link the top hit for nigritude ultramarine to google.com.

    In fact, to help them, I suggest that everybody who thinks that "SEO pros" are a life form somewhere below pond-scum and above spammers, ought to help them. nigritude ultramarine.

    1. Re:Phew... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD PARENT UP

    2. Re:Phew... by burns210 · · Score: 1

      how about having the top rank be the slashdot article, or the SEO contest page itself?

  20. You can't insure a high ranking on search by BasilBrush · · Score: 0

    No insurance companies do such policies. You can ensure it though.

  21. I suppose... by oGMo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I suppose doing something legitimate... like selling a successful product with this name attached... is out of the question? ;-P

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  22. I like the ads by sploo22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A few of the ads that Google found to be relevant:

    Need Search Engine Help?
    The Definitive SEO Resource
    SeoDesk

    Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

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  23. Just an aside... by Furbot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is it just me or does the name nigritude ultramarine seem a little racially suspect. hmmmmm?

    1. Re:Just an aside... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Is it just me or does the name nigritude ultramarine seem a little racially suspect.

      Oh, great ... Here come the GUNAA posts!

    2. Re:Just an aside... by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's an archaic term for "the state of being black". It's an odd choice, and you could draw all sorts of inferences based on our society's connections between "black" and the concepts of "profit", "evil", "African", "ink", and even "smithee". But sometimes and odd word is just an odd word.

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    3. Re:Just an aside... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick! Send out the Thought Police.

  24. Do a search for Indie-Mail by KalvinB · · Score: 4, Informative

    and I'm the second result. There's no secret for getting ranked high when your web-site doesn't suck. You just let Google do its thing.

    "DirectX SDKs" and I'm on the first page of results. Although it's going to the Distribution section (pay per CD) instead of the SDK download section which is free access.

    "Digital Black Market" also gets me a spot in the top 20. I used to be ranked higher on that one.

    Before the site wide overhaul I was ranked 2nd when searching for "Driver Library" but if you're looking for a specific file and I have it, I'll get a top ranking.

    Google is currently reindexing my site. It'll probably be another month or so before everything is indexed as well as it was before. Last check there was about a half a million files on the web-site.

    Domain, directory, file name, content is about the general chain of importance for getting a high ranking.

    Ben

    1. Re:Do a search for Indie-Mail by burns210 · · Score: 1

      indeed... my site has some pretty interesting top ranks, that i have noticed...

      *'edjumacated' the name of one of the members, is top ranked.
      *'shold gay marriage be legalized' is number 3
      *'controversial pictures of iraq' with regards to the flags over coffins, is ranked second.

      Nothing rediculously impressive, except that mirwin.net(the site) has only been up in its current form since mid January. Quite an impressive jump to the top.

    2. Re:Do a search for Indie-Mail by leviramsey · · Score: 1

      There's huge numbers of sports handicapping sites out there, and the people who run them (besides me, of course...) tend to be scumbag scammers who like to manipulate google rankings.

      However, for a few search terms I'm in the top 100 after only a couple of months of not doing much of anything.

  25. Slashdot should win by abde · · Score: 1

    you know, regardless of attempts to game the system, if every slashdot reader just linked to this slashdot story from their respective websites, then Slashdot would win easily with a standard PageRank. No amount of gaming the system can overtake sheer force of numbers. It's like the Howard Dean approach to raising money :)

    I'm adding the following HTML link to my websites:

    nigritude ultramarine

    join me! and Slashdot shall prevail!

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    1. Re:Slashdot should win by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Assuming that the PageRank formula is completely based on total numbers, then you are correct. But based on the fact that it's called a formula, I would guess that there's more to the ranking than just the total number of links to a particular site. With this being the case, your statement that gaming the system cannot overcome raw numbers is incorrect.

      For instance, and this is just to prove a point, let's say the PageRank formula counts a link from CNN.com and MSNBC.com as equivalent to 1,000 links from any other domain. Obviously if 1,000 Slashdotters place a link to the Slashdot article [which is probably high, I doubt people care enough to take part in your suggestion] but some person gets a link on CNN and MSNBC somehow, that person is going to win. I would guess that gaming the system can beat a raw numbers attempt if it is focused and has enough knowledge of the PageRank formula.

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  26. are /. editors stupid ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    this submission is from a spammer , chgeck out darkBlue's front door website, selling medical drugs ? google placements

    yeah Alan Ralsky is having a competion, devise a way of enabling him to send more spam and he will give you a free TFT screen !!

    dickheads, you been scammed

  27. "Optimization" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I hate that phrase. It's typical marketing-speak.

    The whole point of a "search engine" from day one was to help connect people with what they are looking for. To that end, the HTML "META" tag was invented, so that you could give keywords relevant to what your page is about.

    Enter the marketing scumbags. They just want as many eyeballs to see a page, whether it's relevant or not. And so, in short time, the META tag became completely meaningless. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Google ignores the META tag completely.

    And so Google started checking links, because if somebody links to some page, it's probably useful.

    Cue the marketing scumbags again. Tons of fake pages with fake links, all intended to fool the search engine.

    And so they keep trying to find new ways to fuck around with Google and all us people who just want to find what WE want rather than what some marketer wants.

    And in typical marketing scumbag fashion, they call this let's-screw-google nonsense "optimization".

    God I hate marketers. They're worse scum than lawyers, pimps and pushers IMNSHO.

    1. Re:"Optimization" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Sounds like you hate *capitalism* not marketing...

      ..."the marketing scumbags" just like "the sales scumbags" are the ones that make sure that whatever brilliant product you are lucky enough to help make . . . gets sold.

      Egad but I wish they had an over-18 rule to post here; one should have at least *some* inkling as to how the world works or, absent that, the knowledge that one has NO inkling as to how the world works.

    2. Re:"Optimization" by jacquesm · · Score: 1

      please mod this up into high heaven. I'm not sure about the lawyer bit though :)

    3. Re:"Optimization" by silentbozo · · Score: 3, Offtopic

      Having worked with marketers, I often wonder how they sleep at night. Do they deliberately disregard the common good? Have they managed to convince themselves that they are necessary, and even a good? Or are they playing a zero-sum game - "Well, if I don't screw everybody else over, someone else will do it anyways, so I might as well reap the rewards."

      In olden days, these kinds of people would have been dealt with by:

      1. Tarring and feathering.
      2. Being tied to a rail and getting run out of town.
      3. Being thrown in a boat without paddles and left to drift downstream.

      It's only in today's society, where these vermin have so many targets of opportunity (and the veil of apparent anonymity) that they can thrive, and not be thrown out. Even worse, it's only in today's society that these vermin can band together, hire lawyers and lobbyists, and start dictating to the rest of us, what we can do and what we can't do. The Do Not Call list was a good counter-blow, but they're still out there, degrading useful services like Google and e-mail for the rest of us...

    4. Re:"Optimization" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hi, I'm the original poster. I am 42 years old, so I pass your "over-18" rule.

      I have dealt with plenty of salespeople and marketers over the years. I don't have a problem with salespeople whatsoever; they deal with people who already know more or less what they need and assist them in making that all go smoothly.

      But every single marketer I have dealt with have been without exception lying manipulative scum. Marketers are the people who brought you spam email. Marketers are the people who invented the concept of phoning you in the middle of dinner to tell you you need something you don't need.

      Marketing could mean simply placing a few unobtrusive ads here and there about your product, but in reality it means getting as much in-your-face as possible. They're the same annoying shitheads who ran around in highschool trying to force people to buy tickets to the latest dance or play or whatever. They're the people who have no respect for personal privacy or even good manners. They're the people who are responsible for my 15-year old kid being deluded into thinking that Nike shoes are actually

      So if you think that "capitalism" means "spam", "telemarketing", and "google optimization" (a.k.a pointlessly screwing up search engines), then I guess I don't like capitalism. Which is funny, because I always thought I did.

    5. Re:"Optimization" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, pimps and pushers are marketers. So you're claiming that marketers in general are worse than lawyers, which is likely true.

      Scum, as has been mentioned before, is a valuable part of most ecosystems and should not be so maligned.

    6. Re:"Optimization" by cdrguru · · Score: 1

      It is a zero-sum game - there are only so many consumer dollars out there that can be spent. That is called "disposable income". The rest is what you live on.

      Marketing and sales are all about how to get you to spend you disposable income in one place vs. somewhere else. If you buy stuff at Wal-Mart, then the folks at Target have failed. Being a failure sucks. Kmart has found this out the hard way - they are practically out of business.

      So, without marketing and sales at all everyone's disposable income might be evenly distributed over "quality" products leaving inferior products out of the game. I doubt this very, very much but it makes for a nice story. Unfortunately, one guy with a sign is going to mess this up and get more than his "fair share". We aren't going to be seeing the end of marketing and sales promotions anytime soon.

    7. Re:"Optimization" by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      "By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing, kill yourself. Thank you, thank you. Just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day they'll take root. I don't know. You try. You do what you can. Kill yourselves. Seriously though, if you are, do. No really, there's no rationalisation for what you do, and you are Satan's little helpers, OK? Kill yourselves, seriously. You're the ruiner of all things good. Seriously, no, this is not a joke. "There's gonna be a joke coming..." There's no fucking joke coming, you are Satan's spawn, filling the world with bile and garbage, you are fucked and you are fucking us, kill yourselves, it's the only way to save your fucking soul. Kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself now. Now, back to the show.

      -- Bill Hicks

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    8. Re:"Optimization" by Alberic · · Score: 1

      you're a nerd, are you not ? So Do what i Do, and add to every search you do the flag 'site:.org' and get rid of the commercial sites. I'm also expecting a version of google that allows looking only for personal pages. And, by the way, if a commercial site is listed '.org', is it illegal ? (.org should be non-profit only, hum ?)

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  28. Wait a minute! by burns210 · · Score: 1

    I had a similar(read: identical) contest going on my website two weeks ago! This thread shows how i tried to link Vector Desist to my website, just for the hell of it. Oh well. This contest did 2 things better though... They did it as a true competition, while we did it just on our own website. And second, there words are more non-sensical, so you don't have to compete with existing page rankings

  29. Prospective troll karma whoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The link directs to a GNAA page

    1. Re:Prospective troll karma whoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems that you have been trolled AND you have also lost.
      All that is left is for me to wish you a nice day.

    2. Re:Prospective troll karma whoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      um no sh!t sherlock.. he is obviously trying to make his point using a valid example.. what would you have him use instead, Mr. Holier-than-thou ?

    3. Re:Prospective troll karma whoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no sh!t indeed...

  30. OT: Where do we go once Google turns evil? by schwaang · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I sense a disturbing over-dependence on Google. If they turn to the dark side (& it's bound to happen), where we will go next?

    I used to like hotbot before they got eaten by Lycos. They used Inktomi's engine, which I think MSN licensed for a while.

    nlsearch had cool features, but died out. (I think they sell their engine for enterprise use at northernlight.com).

    altavista was cool when it was run by DEC (which got ate by Compaq, which was swallowed by HP).

    next?

    1. Re:OT: Where do we go once Google turns evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a9.com?

    2. Re:OT: Where do we go once Google turns evil? by schwaang · · Score: 1
      How about a9.com?

      Probably you meant that as +1, Funny. For one thing, it's Amazon, evil (commercial conflict of interest) from the start.
      For another, "Search results enhanced by Google."

    3. Re:OT: Where do we go once Google turns evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably here: mozDex.

      "mozDex is a search engine that uses open source search technologies to create an open and fair index".

  31. nigritude by Mantorp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's gotten to the point that any word beginning with "nig" sounds racist to me. The word niggardly has gotten several people in hot water the last few years.

    1. Re:nigritude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and what about night? Is it called that because it's dark out?! What's up with that?

    2. Re:nigritude by leviramsey · · Score: 3, Informative

      nigritude: Blackness; the state of being black.

    3. Re:nigritude by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 1

      Definitely! Let's start with getting Nigeria to change their country name.

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  32. 'zcat' by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

    First hit for 'zcat' on almost every search engine I've checked. I also rank quite highly for other stuff I do. Most of my pagerank comes from having my URL on message boards like slashdot..

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    1. Re:'zcat' by BiggyP · · Score: 1

      i don't really try,

      biggyp
      Phil Harper
      open cd
      software freedom

      do the trick quite nicely, though i supose they don't help unless people know what they wan't to search for.

      it's very strange the tendancy for random word searches to turn up OSS projects, for instance, pathological gives you a rather nice puzzle game, putty gets you the SSH client.

    2. Re:'zcat' by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

      it's very strange the tendancy for random word searches to turn up OSS projects, for instance, pathological gives you a rather nice puzzle game, putty gets you the SSH client.

      Yes, I've noticed that too..

      It also helps that for any large OSS project 'foo' the site "foo.org" is quite likely to be their homepage or a redirect to the sourceforge page. eg kernel.org, mozilla.org, sendmail.org, openoffice.org :)

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  33. Nigritude Ultramarine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
  34. Reminds me of by rduke15 · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:Reminds me of by zcat_NZ · · Score: 4, Funny
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    2. Re:Reminds me of by embsupafly · · Score: 1

      This one is better Linux Stole SCO Code

    3. Re:Reminds me of by Phattypants · · Score: 1
      The Napoleonic Wars
      - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.


      Lost it when I saw that.
    4. Re:Reminds me of by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      Every now and then, I get the urge to do some google hacking and make that "French Military Victories" search point to a story about the French blowing up Greenpeace's "Rainbow Warrior" in New Zealand harbor.

      (I generally just go lie down until the urge goes away.)

    5. Re:Reminds me of by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that sneaking into a small, neutral country at a time when none of the involved parties were at war with anyone, and blowing up the flagship of an organisation that exists to promote peace really counts as a 'military victory'.

      In fact given that the ship was fairly old anyhow, Greenpeace got a lot of publicity (perhaps more than the ship was worth), and the agents in question were caught I'm not sure it was really any kind of victory.

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  35. #2 Rank by Lithium_Golem · · Score: 0, Troll

    Here's the #2 rank: You can find NIGRITUDE ULTRAMARINE right now at Info.com. It's as if they knew the contest was coming before it was announced! :)

  36. President of the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of the "President of the Internet." The idea there is that the person with the highest Google ranking for that term is the current President.

  37. OT but I wish google had this by Sark666 · · Score: 1

    When I'm doing a search and getting tons of crap hits from certain domains, I wish there was an option to filter them out of the search. Then maybe could start to get some hits like the web was a few years back.

    Yes, I know you can filter a domain in the advanced, but that seems like only one domain you could exclude and even if you could chain more, you'd have to do it before the search. I want it during the search.

    1. Re:OT but I wish google had this by Hungry+Admin · · Score: 1

      To take your idea a step further, there could be a database of domains that many people have decided are spammish, that you could automatically reject from your search results. Of course, just like the email version of such databases, it would be possible to game this system as well. That would mean more admins, and possibly more legal expenses. But I, for one, would welcome this feature.

      Perhaps Google could team up with some larger ISPs, and give negative rankings to spamvertised websites and domains.

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  38. "the worlds dumbest webpage" by Simon+Carr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am the champion title holder there.

    Yay.

    The funny thing is I have no idea how I got there.

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  39. Google says: by rudy_wayne · · Score: 1

    "Did you mean to search for: negritude ultramarine"

  40. what this will lead to ... by Lazy+Jones · · Score: 1
    the good part: the winner will be very much in demand (as a SEO consultant)

    the bad part: there will be even more crappy Google results (we should give Teoma a chance, since it can't be spammed as easily using links on irrelevant pages)

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  41. they should all be banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    it's because of people like them that google sucks more each day. let them burn in hell.

  42. Wikipedia anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it would be useful to add an article to Wikipedia about nigritude ultramarine, giving links to Google and Slashdot.

    1. Re:Wikipedia anyone? by Cerv · · Score: 1

      There already is a Wikipedia article on nigritude ultramarine. If you think it would be useful it to link to Google and Slashdot you do it.

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  43. it is wierd by SlideGuitar · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Of all the random letters and words they could have generated, the use of an "N" "G" "R" word is very wierd. Either these people live in some kind of social and intellectual bubble... (most likely), or else what....?

    Here are some words that I wouldn't choose too.
    Mithorfickur.... cantlickir... etc.

    "nigritude" is just one weird choice. Why would they choose it? It isn't random letters... it has the feel of English.

    I think it's a bad choice, since presumably they just want something neutral... but maybe brushing up against words that have negative cultural connotations is how you take a boring nonesense word and make it interesting...

    Seems like a really bad choice.... and it is reinforced by the use of a "color" word as the second word... ultramarine is a color, and so this cues the mind to think of color, which, in a different sense, is also implicit in the letters of the first word.

    Very odd, and surely a poor choice for the purpose at hand.

    Oh, I agree that criticism about the use of the word "niggardly" ("miserly") is pure ignorance... but I also bow to the fact that we live in an ignorant society and I would avoid using it because I wish to communicate and, really, how often do you really need to say "niggardly" to make your point?

    You don't, ever, need to use it. And you don't need to choose a word like "nigritude" as a "random" word either. You just don't.

    1. Re:it is wierd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "nigritude" is just one weird choice. Why would they choose it? It isn't random letters... it has the feel of English.


      It is English. Why choose it? Why not? If you think it's racist then that's incredicbly sad.

      Your post demonstrates everything that's wrong with political correctness -- this word has a vague similarity to this word over here which we have already deemed unacceptable, therefore this new word is also unacceptable.

      TBH, it's bordering on the infantile.
  44. Isn't SEO *inherently* dubious? by mcc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We might as well be discussing a rule for eliminating "dubious" entries from a contest for who can pull off the biggest stock fraud scheme.

    What comes to mind is a strip of the old comic strip "Ernie". This strip has a running gag about a local group called the "Pirhana club" which has a yearly "Pirhana of the Year" contest which is literally a yearly award to whichever of the members can be the biggest sleazeball.

    There's one character in the strip named "Uncle Sid" who wins the contest every year. He's just that much of an asshole.

    One year, as the Pirhana of the Year award approached, the strip chronicled various members of the club working overtime to get the award. Sid, though, did nothing, just sitting in the bar, oblivious and drinking while the other members of the club bragged to him about how they were certain to win this year.

    And on the strip on the day of the award ceremony, the readers were shown various members of the club around the room, explaining to the person next to them why they're certain they're going to win. A member of the city council brags about demanding kickbacks from an orphanage to retain their funding. A doctor brags about defrauding patients by charging them for surgery he anesthesised them for but did not perform for nonexistent ailments. A used car salesman brags about selling a set of totally nonfunctional cars to a nunnery. And as the announcer calls out "THE WINNER.. IS.. SID", the camera pans to Uncle Sid explaining to Ernie that he stuffed the ballot box.

    The next strip simply showed the other lead contenders confronting Sid and demanding to know, "How did you win? What did you do?" And Sid responds, "I cheated. I stuffed the ballot box and bribed the judges."

    The disheartened response, after a brief pause was "Damn, you're good."

    1. Re:Isn't SEO *inherently* dubious? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative

      The running gag on Ernie now is the comic strip.

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    2. Re:Isn't SEO *inherently* dubious? by dubiousmike · · Score: 1

      "We might as well be discussing a rule for eliminating "dubious" entries "

      so I am disqualified? damned screen name

  45. Do your part by nuntius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1.) Do the Google search
    2.) Click on the "Dissatisfied?" link
    3.) Complain to Google about all the spammers.

    Only you can stamp out spammers.
    Show Google the power of the /. hordes.

    1. Re:Do your part by misof · · Score: 1

      1.) Do the Google search
      2.) Click on the "Dissatisfied?" link
      3.) Complain to Google about all the spammers.

      You got it all wrong again, the third step is supposed to be Profit!!!

    2. Re:Do your part by oshy · · Score: 1

      it has an option to enter the url you were looking for. If enough enter goatse's url, it might come out on top

  46. Obligitory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "My eyes! The googles, they do nothing!"

  47. No way! by zitoun · · Score: 1

    As written in the original post, first in the list is still http://www.nigritude-ultramarine.com/nigritude-ult ramarine/nigritude-ultramarine.asp. No wonder that the tricky domain name, directory and file naming has a lot to do with it. And it just makes sense actually... Are you suggesting that, in response to a "nigritude ultramarine" search google should conciously avoid pages with such naming? :)

  48. Authors site by Gantic · · Score: 0

    Feel free to mod this as off topic but I am very impressed with the authors site: nigritude ultramarine. Those are some impressive Christmas lights!

  49. Here's how to do it by arekusu · · Score: 2, Informative

    1) make a web page.
    2) get people to link to it, with the query words in the link.
    3) lots of people.

    For example, google for "monkeys".
    Top hit: bdmonkeys.net (my band)

    Now if you look at that page, "monkeys" only shows up FOUR times in the source: the page name, the meta keyword, an IMG ALT tag, and the email.

    Now google for "battle cry".
    Top hit: the blog meme Chaz wrote that LINKS TO OUR SITE WITH THE WORD "MONKEYS".

    561823649174 bloggers linking to you = top google position.

  50. And from a moronic exercise by T.Hobbes · · Score: 1

    comes moronic results. look at the first page for their phone word now... here

  51. KNOWN TROLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See previous post's reference to simoniger and the 'convenient' GNAA link in this post.

  52. Re:Typo in story: Latter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ow, I always though google was programmed in Python.

  53. Isn't that already decided? by Mengoxon · · Score: 1

    Hasn't http://www.nigritude-ultramarine.com/nigritude-ult ramarine/nigritude-ultramarine.asp already won by virtue of their URL?

  54. If you search for "here" on Google ... by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

    ... you get all those pages that people link to in "to view this file, download the viewer _here_" type links. Search result number one is the download page for Adobe Reader :).

    See for yourself here.

    1. Re:If you search for "here" on Google ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah! That's really quite hilarious! :)

  55. Looking Thourgh the Results. by GaussianInteger · · Score: 1

    If you look through the results, it seems that most webpages just took a template of some business, product, or organization and just changed all the keywords to Nigritude and Ultramarine, the two desired.

    This gave me the idea to make my own Nigritude Ultramarine contest site, which basically took a BBC article about a spacecraft getting photos of a Saturn moon, and changed everything into the two keywords desired.

  56. Nigritude Ultramarine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I prefer this one: The Nigritude Ultramarine Blog

  57. Have fought that war... by fafalone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We've been trying numerous optimizations to win the #1 spot for 'science forums'... but oddly enough we kept losing to sites were often not even directly relevant to the query. Eventually we brought in some optimizations just to the pages of the site to bring things up.
    Well, we now have the number one spot... but since we did nothing as far as increasing mentions on the other sites, the question arises how of how much weight Google really puts on external references to your site.

  58. Here's where this is a practical problem by ctwxman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This technique of gaming is also a technique akin to spamming. I maintain a blog on my website www.geofffox.com (I want a higher rank too). It's a small affair averaging 400-500 guests a day, each looking at a few pages. I know that Google results are the single biggest referrer to my site! But sites with no legitimate traction know that Google can work for them too. So, every day or so, I get 'comment spam.' An automated system will hit my site with a comment. The comment, of course, includes his URL. Sometimes the comments are obviously commercial (usually porn or drugs), but often they are socially engineered to blend in. These would include comments like: "I couldn't agree with you more." or "Nice point." Again, these innocuous posts are accompanied by porn or drug URLs. Most of the time they come from Russian IP addresses. Though I don't post those who link to my site, others do... and so I often see what look like referrals in my log, from porn sites. Following the link back shows I wasn't mentioned at all (Let's not talk about my career in adult films). Google rank has become so valuable that these businesses on the margin of legitimacy probably feel they have no other choice if they wish to be found. Damn shame.

    1. Re:Here's where this is a practical problem by stype · · Score: 1

      Dude, you're my favorite weather man. Rock on. Ok its a toss up between you and Dr. Mel.

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  59. Comments from the article submitter by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    HEY ... my submission actually got accepted - that's a first! ;-)

    As alluded in the "Note to Slashdot Editors" (thought they would prune that), I first want to emphasize I have NO relationships with the folks running this content - I just think it is hilarious, although it will certainly provide some insights into how Google works, and we'll see all sorts of whacky things from the SEO pro's - again, I am not one of 'em.

    Second, I hadn't thought about Slashdot ranking 1st for the contest as some have suggested - now that would be a crackup! Unfortunately, Slashdot won't allow you to place in IMG tag in a post (a requirement of the contest is a small image on the page), plus I'm not a member of the SearchGuild, so I'm not elgible ... maybe Cmdr Taco or Timothy need an iPod and/or 17" LCD - go for it! ;-)

    Third, you know the folk at Google have gotten wind of this contest, and if I were them, I'd put a link on the main page to their own nigritude ultramarine page. I.e. Google should NOT tinker with their algorithms, but with a link from their PR10 main page, that certainly should shoot 'em up in the rankings. I gotta wonder if the pre-IPO Google would do this - we'll see with the "new" Google ;-)

    Fourth, I appreciate some of the comments from folks about my Christmas Lights and the Christmas Webcam with webcontrol (yes, you can turn the lights ON and OFF via the web) which actually been on Slashdot before - in fact, you can read my Slashdot Effect Analysis from last year. I assure you it should be MUCH more interesting this year, as due to some multi-threaded optimizations, I think I'll be able to reduce the throttle from minimum 5-second updates to 1-second updates. I'm going to have to be REALLY NICE to my neighbors, 'cause it will be quite the flickering light show in December/2004 ... although I usually fire it up for a test-run in October as part of my Halloween Decorations and Lights.

    alek

    P.S. One thing slight off-topic is the Google Compute project which I thought I mention to those Slashdotters with idle CPU time that want to help the Stanford Folding@Home project - this really is a good cause.

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    1. Re:Comments from the article submitter by jacquesm · · Score: 1

      hm, I had lights & a webcam controllable from the web in '96 or so (and a fan to boot). Maybe the waybackwhen machine still has it, mattheij.com or mattheij.nl... people wouldn't believe it was real either, got lots of 'nice fake' comments, but doing it was easier than faking it.

    2. Re:Comments from the article submitter by danharan · · Score: 1

      It's likely then that the page you linked to from your submission will be the winner.

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    3. Re:Comments from the article submitter by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Well done! You got modded up and also likely increased your pagerank for the links you provided as well. :)

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    4. Re:Comments from the article submitter by timothy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I kept your note in there; figured that otherwise a distractingly high number of comments would be grousing that you were gaming the contest.

      I would like an ipod (esp now thwt I've discovered worthwhile stuff to put on it at rusc.com) or a monitor, sure, but not enough to upset the balance of the force ;)

      timothy

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    5. Re:Comments from the article submitter by xmas2003 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Timothy, Yea, in hindsight, good idea leaving my "disclaimer" note in there - thanx.

      If I were you, I'd go for it! Remember you have to do a few things per the contest rules per the link above, but in case you are wondering, I have ZERO issues with you taking the credit and walking off with the prize(s) if you win - after all, it is YOUR web site! ;-) You have a good chance of taking it - unless someone gets a link from a Page Rank 100 page - after my article submission, I realized this is a pretty funny link that I forgot to add.

      I would totally mod-up your post, but I'm a schmuck ... so hopefully someone else will for you (although obviousely you can do so yourself) as I bet a buncha Slashdott'ers would also say go for it!

      alek

      P.S. Actually Timothy, if you do win, can I ask a favor and get a couple hours heads-up if you guys Slashdot my Christmas Lights again? I'd like to warn the neighbors before the lights go beserko, and also monitor things when the deluge hits - X10 is a bit squirrly, so even with some multi-threading, I'm going to be pushing it with the 1 (versus 5) second throttle this year ... and it's hard to test this. BTW, if you haven't tried it, you might get a chuckle out of the Javascript pop-ups if you click from Slashdot on my Christmas Webcam link.

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    6. Re:Comments from the article submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      As alluded in the "Note to Slashdot Editors" (thought they would prune that),

      You thought Slashdot "Editors" would *edit* something?

      HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah HahHahHah ... Whew.

      Thanks, I needed that.

  60. Your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot doesn't feed users's sigs to Googlebot when it spiders the comments. Nice try, though.

  61. while we're at it by sirReal.83. · · Score: 1

    I've got a tiny site, only around a month old, giving updates on various Debian things I work on. Number one for debian kaffeine. I didn't do anything special.

  62. I am a nigritude ultramarine mercenary. by salimfadhley · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm not a member of the silly SEO guild, but all my Nigritude Ultramarine can be yours! I have started an auction on eBay - anybody who seriously wants to win can pay me $1 (or whatever it comes to), and in return I will give them a few hundred links from my reasonably well-ranked sites.

    You shall have my sword... I will fight for your honor!

    1. Re:I am a nigritude ultramarine mercenary. by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      well now it links to the goatse guy (the page listed has a link to goatse)

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    2. Re:I am a nigritude ultramarine mercenary. by salimfadhley · · Score: 1

      It sure does... I think it's better that way. It was probably stupid to think that anybody would pay even $1 for this scheme.

      I dont think SEO peopke have any money to spend.

  63. My Entry by karmatic · · Score: 1

    This is an example of 90's style SEO gone horribly wrong: Nigritude Ultramarine

    Or perhaps Ultramarine, and nigratude too!.

    Or even Nigratude? We've got that!.

    Hey, this is even on topic!

  64. "morons click here" by ValourX · · Score: 1

    I had some search terms for that come up in my site stats last month. I tracked it down to a user on my forums who posted a link to Microsoft's support site that fixed something simple, and he linked the text with "morons click here." So now when you search for that term, Microsoft is the first entry.

    -Jem
  65. Spelling errors by Felinoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    One easy way to grab attention is to intentionally inject commen spelling errors into your webpage.
    I don't recomend this. As easy and as tempting as it is Google feeds the correct spelling.

    On that note I do get the highest ranking for "Linux Destro" A mispelling of Linux Distro (Not for long.. Noticed the error and plan to fix it.)

    Now for a funny.. Take a look at the winner for the correct spelling.
    It's not RedHat.

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    1. Re: Spelling errors by lacoste · · Score: 1

      hahahaha .. that is hilarious

      L
      > Now for a funny.. Take a look at the winner for the correct spelling.

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  66. Really easy to win by Hershmire · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Just be the first for negritude ultramarine, and then you'll technically be the first link with Google's spelling suggestion.

    Who said abusing loopholes in contests wasn't fun?

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  67. just ask by trans_err · · Score: 1

    netster!
    He seems to be at the top of all of my searches.

  68. Re:PARENT IS CONTEST SPAMMER -- MOD DOWN by Lithium_Golem · · Score: 1

    Pretty much any Google search ends up with the same site as #2... it must be some kind of advertising deal or something.

  69. Google should fund this by real+gumby · · Score: 1

    In line with their "Don't be evil" motto, Google should secretly fund a contest like this...and then program in defences against all the effective techniques!

  70. To whomever's next by Scott+Richter · · Score: 1
    I sense a disturbing over-dependence on Google. If they turn to the dark side (& it's bound to happen), where we will go next? I used to like hotbot before they got eaten by Lycos. They used Inktomi's engine, which I think MSN licensed for a while. nlsearch had cool features, but died out. (I think they sell their engine for enterprise use at northernlight.com). altavista was cool when it was run by DEC (which got ate by Compaq, which was swallowed by HP).

    Methinks you answered your own question. If google turns "evil" and people can't find the results they want among the craphole of ads, or if Google can't continue to extract useful info, someone else will come along with a great algorithm. Just like happened to all the others.

  71. Your page rank is relevant too.. by Sovern · · Score: 1

    So the higher google scores your sites, the more relevant it will score the link.

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  72. Hmmn, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Woundn't the owner of Negritude Ultramarine automatically win? Who owns Negritude Ultramarine? I'm not telling. Negritude Ultramarine! ;-)

  73. Nigritude Ultramarine by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 0, Redundant

    You know you want to know all about Nigritude Ultramarine . Come check it out!!! (Hint, this is funny)

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  74. PS I will put you in my friends list... by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    if you link to this site and/or reply and/or mod me up.

    Also, no, I have not actually applied to win. I'm going to see what damage I can cause.

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  75. This look small... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    compared to what I've seen at my previous job (one of the reasons to post anonymoysly). We had several products developed just to create a whole lot of pages, on different domains & IPs, that were cross-linked. That way, it wasn't too hard to be at the top of the rankings - just generate the content, put it up somewhere, and wait for a month or two ....

    I'm glad I don't work there any more, and really glad that they have something other to do, and don't pull all their resouces in this.

  76. definition of n...... ultra.....? by abhisarda · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    some brothas are going to beat you black and blue. :)

  77. Wish I knew how by WebMasterJoe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had (and still have, actually) an accidental top result for "Peter Griffin" in the image search. I never linked to or used the image outside a photoshop contest, and it wasn't even that good - it was the cartoon character Peter Griffin (from Family Guy) with Merv Griffin's face.

    After I found out about my top placement, I started watching my log files and I was surprised to see how many messageboards have linked the image. Most of the image linking was pointless - just somebody found the image and linked directly to it, with no explanation of why it was applicable. Weird.

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  78. latter, not later by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    get it right or don't bother posting

    1. Re:latter, not later by Jim_Hawkins · · Score: 1

      And ensure...not insure. ;-) Good spot. It was bothering me, but I wasn't sure if I should say something.

    2. Re:latter, not later by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fyi, ensure is the same as insure (see Webster's entry) for one definition of insure, the one used in the summary.

  79. Time for a Google Bomb by complete+loony · · Score: 1

    How about google bombing? can us slashdotters spread the word and link to: nigritude ultramarine, nigritude ultramarine, nigritude ultramarine or is there something even funnier that I can't think of?

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    1. Re:Time for a Google Bomb by typobox43 · · Score: 1

      Yes. I think we should link to SCO, so that Darl wins an iPod to miraculously find supposed SCO IP in.

  80. Sponsored Links by complete+loony · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anybody else notice the Sponsored Link next to the results? Looks like someone is trying to buy their way up the list.

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  81. Parent was from Timothy@Slashdot - MOD UP! by xmas2003 · · Score: 1

    As outlined in my first response, it would be a crackup for Timothy/Slashdot to go for it - I should have changed the subject on my reply so others would see the significance of the author - enoucourage him to toss his hat into the ring! ;-)

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  82. In Spanish it is 'telendro' by h0m3r · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is another contest in Spanish. The search term is telendro.

  83. defend the color! link nigritude to ultramarine. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nigritude
    ultramarine
    nigritude ultramarine

    Links go to the top site for "ultramarine".

    Help keep "Pigments Through the Ages" at the top of the ultramarine world.

  84. The nigritude ultramarine FAQ by vortimax · · Score: 1

    It seems to me with all the sites going up on this wacky search phrase, there will be lots of questions about it all. What better way to answer them that to put together a FAQ? and what better page than a FAQ to rank number one on Google? ;-)

    If you have questions post them here and I'll answer them in the FAQ.

    I just registered a domain and will put up the first draft of the nigritue ultramarine FAQ at www.nigritudeultramarines.com shortly. Let's see how long it takes to get into Google. Feel free to add a link from your site. (please note that ultramarines is plural in my domain name by the way)

  85. nothing on froogle.... by zogger · · Score: 1

    ... google news has slashdot showing up, and google groups has this guy, number #1 for nigritude ultramarine, and also the only one

  86. why at the end of two months, and not throughout. by lexluther · · Score: 1

    It seems like a better test, or a closer aproximation of what is wanted is not the person who can be at the top at the end of 2 months, but the person who can be at the top for the highest percentage of days for two months - Google even says: We update our index about once a month. Each time we update our database of web pages, our index invariably shifts: so it seems as if it would be better to make is more an endurance test rather than a contest to see who finishes on top.

  87. no, no :) by timothy · · Score: 1

    thanks just the same - wouldn't be proper ;)

    good luck to the competitors, I suppose, and good luck to google in sorting junk from jelly.

    timothy

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  88. Money by slapout · · Score: 1

    You could just buy an ad from Google so your site shows up and you help keep google free for the rest of us :-)

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  89. Re:Typo in story: Latter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > Ow, I always though google was programmed in Python.

    Why? I've never heard stories about it being programmed by little girls.

  90. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this all a case of Googling /. or /.'ing google?

  91. Subverting a search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From www.darkblue.com/seochallenge/ :

    DarkBlue.com is giving away an Apple Mini iPod(TM) and a Sony Flat Screen Monitor to any Webmaster or SEO who can take their page to #1 for a non-commercial, non-sensicle search term - currently with no search results.

    non-sensicle ? God help us if they if they decide to subvert the phrase 'spell check'.

    1. Re:Subverting a search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google "throwing stones in a glass house"

  92. Slashdot: Anonymous Cowards need not apply by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
    This URL above in Slashdot is the only place I've ever advertised my online resume.

    I can vouch for this. In fact, you may have received an email from "me" -- slashdot@rjamestaylor.com -- purporting to have important documents in a .PIF file for you to signe for your m0rgauges kwick a`prval [sic]. I can't tell you how much second-hand-spam (spam from anti-spam engines telling you the message "you" sent is ladden with a virus and usually containing the virus for your review, etc.) I get claiming "Slashdot, you have a virus!" The only place on the 'Net I referrence slashdot is kuro5hin -- kidding (that's the way to keep your inbox clean) -- is here.

    Oh, if you want to send hate mail (no one takes time to say nice things; hate motivates) you'll need to invent a different username than the one I post; I gave up looking for ham to slashdot@rjamestaylor.com, though I have discovered exactly three real messages out of the $plethora_synonym of spam, second-hand-spam and two-fisted-spam-fu (don't ask) swamping my little'ol Outlook Express 4.0 Inbox (kidding).

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  93. Just bragging by Lulu+of+the+Lotus-Ea · · Score: 1

    It's something of a thrill to find my stuff as #1, using fairly meaningful terms. It's just a gimmick to do so with odd misspellings or silly word combinations. Well, also I come out well with my own name, and the names of my columns or book. But it's an ego boost when I get to be #1 on terms people would actually search for. A couple I know about:

    multiple dispatch
    regular expression tutorial (this one is -huge- in hits)
    weightless threads
    python state machine
    steve martinot (not me, a guy whose book I reviewed)
    "Norms Of Reaction" genotype
    gnosis utilities (well, those are mine)

    Well, probably a bunch of others... it's hard to know.

  94. Second-Hand-Spam by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
    example:
    From: administrator@xxxxxx.com
    Date: 2004/05/09 Sun PM 11:02:55 EDT
    To: slashdot@rjamestaylor.com
    CC: JLxxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
    Subject: Your email message was blocked

    MailMarshal (an automated content monitoring gateway) has
    not delivered the following message:

    Message: BB000c9e68.00000000.mml
    From: slashdot@rjamestaylor.com
    To: JLoxxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
    Subject: Re: Your details

    This is due to automatic rules that have determined that the
    intended recipient is not authorized to receive messages with
    certain potentially dangerous filetypes attached.

    If you believe the message was business related please contact
    administrator@xxxxxx.com and request that the message be released to
    its intended recipient. If no contact is made within 5 days
    the message will automatically be deleted.

    MailMarshal Rule: Inbound : Block Suspicious Attachments

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  95. Re:Reminds me of WO*A*D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...which reminds me of the less famous...
    Weapons of ASS Destruction in DVD!

  96. Re:crossconnects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I actually googled for 'ass ramming uncle fuckers' and it took me to linux.com

  97. nigritude ultramarine by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    I thought I had a pretty good idea of what nigritude ultramarine was until this contest. I am not so sure what nigritude ultramarine is any more. Is it me, or is nigritude ultramarine something I did not think of?

    In any case nigritude ultramarine rules.

  98. Seeing as there are Google experts present by crush · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why is it that when I do a Google-images search for "torture iraq" or "lynndie england" I get no hits at all for the current pictures that are doing the rounds? Yet if I search the regular Google then I can get links to them.

    1. Re:Seeing as there are Google experts present by crush · · Score: 1

      How in the world is this "flamebait"? Whoever modded this as flamebait is using their mod-priveleges to stamp all over a question that is legitimate and interesting. Why doesn't the google search that I write about show the results that I'd expect?

  99. OT Sig Reply by NaDrew · · Score: 1

    I like your duck.

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  100. Re:Hmm. slashdot's robots.txt by incuso · · Score: 1
    If you look at the slashdot's robots.txt you can find:

    User-agent: Mediapartners-Google*
    Disallow:

    Therefore slashdot's articles should not been indicized.

    Cheers,
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  101. it's been done by chade01 · · Score: 1

    Just look at what Google turns up as #1 for the (potentially legitimate) search 'ninja'. Getting #1 on Google's pagerank? Now that's what I call REAL ULTIMATE POWER!

  102. What?!? by trezor · · Score: 1
    • I won't deal with companies who use such strategies.

    Whatwhatwhat? Next you'll be saying you don't buy v1agra from people advertising by e-mail!

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  103. Rig the contest, Google! by CodeMonkey4Hire · · Score: 1

    What's to keep an engineer (or the company) from making a special case out of the search for "nigritude ultramarine?" The day before the contest ends, they copy the pages of the top 100 to use for research and then they point the top search to whoever they want....

    Ah, that would be awesome. I'd love to see all of these people trying so hard for something and they find out that they have no control over it in the end.

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  104. Slashdot Editors = Class Act by xmas2003 · · Score: 1
    As a long-time Slashdot (mostly) lurker, I'm impressed - Cmdr Taco and the Slashdot Editors seem to get so much crap from people for this or that - kudo's for taking the high road!

    Having written the above, it would still be hilarious if you guys took the #1 spot for the nigritude ultramarine keyphrase ... and you had NOT signed up for the contest. There seems to be a ton of "snake oil" in the SEO business, and would be interesting to see what all those hotshot SEO guru's would say about that! ;-)

    Good luck and Best Wishes,
    alek

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  105. Re:Hmm. slashdot's robots.txt by dindi · · Score: 1

    I think mediapartners google is not the same as googlebot ....

    it comes only if you have adsense on your site !

  106. Something funny :-) by Henk+Poley · · Score: 1

    Look here: hdmahrxpqxxhp @ mailinator.com mailbox

    It's a mail from some guy who set up a GoogleAd on the contest keyword.

  107. To earn a top 5 ranking on Google, you need: by rinkjustice · · Score: 1

    a) many outside sites linking to your page.
    b) many of the keywords used in the search to appear in the body of the text on your page.
    c) lots of relevant keywords in the meta tags (not exceeding 120 I think).
    d) a horseshoe lodged up your anal cavity.

    Then it's just fine tuning. It's not an ancient Chinese secret.

  108. Re:Hmm. slashdot's robots.txt by SocialWorm · · Score: 1
    "Disallow: " with nothing after doesn't disallow everything, but rather disallows nothing. I'm pretty sure it says this somewhere right on the Google site itself, but after much searching, I was only able to find http://www.searchengineworld.com/robots/robots_tut orial.htm and http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots.html

    That, and the adsense thing that someone already mentioned.

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  109. Can we skew the results? by TaxSlave · · Score: 1

    What if everybody chose their own URL to point to for nigritude ultramarine and tried to skew the results? Never mind that MY link to nigritude ultramarine has nothing to do with nigritude ultramarine at all. Seeing enough links to my site with it looking like a link to nigritude ultramarine could be enough. Ya think?

  110. heres how to do it? by boy85 · · Score: 1

    get people pissed at you so they will all write shit about you and link to you?

  111. Don't forget to link to the wikipedia page! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  112. Nigritude Ultramarine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You may download nigritude ultramarine here: http://nigritude.sourceforge.net/ultramarine/nigri tude-ultramarine.shtml

    For more information, contact: nigritude ultramarine

  113. nigritude ultramarine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  114. I'm giving it a try at: by MURL · · Score: 1

    nigritude-ultramarine.lr2.com

    Hopefully that URL will get crawled soon.

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  115. Mangeur de cigogne by mangeur+de+cigogne · · Score: 1

    Good luck to all participants :)

    Stephane, initiator of the Mangeur de cigogne contest.

  116. nigritude ultramarine by mphase · · Score: 1

    nigritude ultramarine Black Blue (the basic meaning of nigritude ultramarine) is a very fitting name for this contest as it is kicking my ass. My nigritude ultramarine page is a sad little 200th and so this post to try and draw attention it to and/or raise its rank through this nice little linkage.

  117. Google SEO Challenge by Nigritude · · Score: 1

    I think with the competition becoming quite stiff for the phrase Nigritude Ultramarine the term may last longer than the developers thought when the Google SEO Challenge was conceived. And my entry for Nigritude Ultramarine

    1. Re:Google SEO Challenge by Nigritude · · Score: 1

      By the way, we have just completed the new town in Arkansas that we dubbed Nigritude Ultramarine. Population equal to zero. If you are interested in visiting Nigritude Ultramarine - feel free - as we think the Webmaster got lost in Google.

    2. Re:Google SEO Challenge by Nigritude · · Score: 1

      SEO Challenge article states that there are now over 125,000 web pages spidered by Google.

  118. SEO Press Release by Nigritude · · Score: 1

    Here is the Google SEO Challenge Press Release on PRWeb.

  119. Let's start a Cameltoe Contest instead! by Cameltoemaster · · Score: 1

    Begin your day with a well shaped Cameltoe and you will turn into a happy man!