"Nice. Too bad its taken over 11 years for someone to optimize this in a relevant browser."
I guess that's a stab at Opera as not being popular enough. Opera has the fastest back and forward buttons (it even keeps for you the text that you typed in a form). It's not my fault that you use substandard (but relevant) browsers.
Signed: one proud Opera user (one of the two users;-)
The accent here is on open not on standards. What I mean by that is that with the technological pace it's going to be hard to use only technology that was standardized by I don't know what international agency, however if you chose to use a technology maybe it's better to use the one that has open specifications.
So maybe the word we are looking for is specifications not standards. I mean of course it's better to use a standard but in case you have to chose between open specifications and closed specifications -- the wise choise is the first one.
"The death rate is so low that I can hardly imagine selective forces having a large effect on evolution."
Actually, just came to think about this: those who blow themself up they autoexclude from "natural" selection -- so probably in long term the stupid gene will disappear or be very rare in the population.
I'm sure that's not the only tax that Massachusetts residents pay. (for example if you own a house and a car you pay tax for those).
(I'm not supporting any left or right wing ideas in this discussion, I am just wondering if that 9.8% and the 30th place say all the truth about taxes in MA)
"n fact, it's my impression that average users simply stay with what they have"
I totally agree with this observation. Switching from one OS to another is not something that most of the people like or are willing to do. Actually that the basis of MS monopoly. However, many people, there are now millions, swiched to Linux -- I guess that shows something, probably people frustration with Windows or with Microsoft actions.
I find it funny when an average guy clams to know what the "average" PC user needs, wants or thinks.
I only know what I need: 1. cheap or free: 1-0 for "Open Source" 2. software without viruses or adware: 2-0 for "Open Source" 3. good technology: 3-0 for "Open Source" 4. good community: 4-0 for "Open Source" 5. freedom to inspect and modify the code: 5-0 for "Open Source"
I don't care about the name, I do care about the points above. Let's say that the "average" user doesn't care about the no. 5 but I'm pretty sure it will if he realize that 1 through 4 are related to point no. 5
I'm sorry I don't have any mod points. I agree with you completely.
I know there are people that get allergy when they heard the word "freedom" especially when it comes to software. I've come to realize that that's the most important feature. For exaple I know that people use Linux for: security, cost reasons. However those are features that can be replicated by others: Mac is pretty secure, Window XP SP2 is much more secure than the crap before and although few people here would belive it I'm sure Microsoft can make a secure product.
Cost? Well, MS might lower the price OS, when you buy a computer I think that $50 goes to MS (the so called MS tax) that and the price of boxed OS can be lowered to compete with commercial Linux distros.
However, none of these companies is willing to give you freedom and to fight for it. Stallman does that and that's why I appreciate him.
Although the basic GNU/Linux system is free software, most of the GNU/Linux versions now available include a small amount of non-free software--just enough to spoil them as a way to attain freedom. But Linspire is in a class by itself; large and important parts of this system are non-free. No other GNU/Linux distribution has backslided so far away from freedom. Switching from MS Windows to Linspire does not bring you to freedom, it just gets you a different master.
I can't read the label there, kind of small, it says something like "This OEM Software cannot be delivered without the required hardware... "
Ah.. look on the border it clearly say "For distribution only with a new PC" But I don't want a new PC and I want legal software -- otherwise as I said I could probably get it for 10 bucks.
What you got might not be 100% legal (my guess, or it was some special rebate). If I look a little bit I can find Windows XP for 10 bucks, but that doens't mean anything.
Anyway, Microsoft did start to cut prices.... I wonder why... hmmm... maybe because of their kind heart.
That's exactly the kind of reasoning peple would have used against iPod: "why would Apple sell mp3 players, they will no longer be a computer company".
So what? Do you think they would cry if they had huge success selling a $150 OS? (of how much is Mac now...) BTW, windows is like $250 the full versions.
BTW... Linux is still $0 last time I checked (take that Mac fanboys!)
$700, man that's excessive. Some people live with that amount for a year in some poor countries. You could also buy two computers for that amount.
Maybe it's time for you guys to look into free OS (Linux, BSD) and free software. BTW, there are free tools to print to PDF (PDFCreator, OpenOffice.org, and I'm sure many more).
Great! I see now that Linux guys will hate the guts of Mac fanboys... I already started to feel the rage.
It's not a point of having "about everything you'd want" eventually all the important OSes will have "about everything you'd want" however their will not all be: 1. free 2. gratis or cheap
Granted that's not important for many people, it's important though for many Linux users.
I also don't trust Apple when it comes to free standards, one example is iTunes and iPod (they will support open standards only when it's convenient for them)
I got it doing "apt-get install mozilla-firefox" (actually that was only for upgrade since it already came installed on my Linux distro). So this are 2 instances when users are not counted: - it comes already installed. - install it with apt-get or other tool from the distro repository, most of the distro have it in the repos and they don't count the downloads.
My point is that Microsoft in an official document has accepted the idea that using "restricted user"
is kind of screwed up for now. So my guess my mileage is not unique to me. I'm sure though that in some cases it works just fine, I don't doubt you.
Can you imagine though if most of the people would respond to the scammers, than the scammers would really have big problems to sort the "useful" e-mails (the very few who were fooled) out of the "spam" (most of the people who just make fun on them).
If something works for you it doesn't mean it works for anybody. Please read Microsoft document: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/secnews/ articles/lpuseacc.mspx particulary this part: "Today, due to awkward complications that arise when it is employed, least privilege is not in active use on most Microsoft Windows-based systems."
It sounds to me like a crappy way to run programs, exactly what I experienced.
I'm using NOW my ATI video card and I just checked the "Logitech" label on my mouse...
I never used "FairUse, ACDSee, GetRight, XFire, Ulead Video", but my Firefox, Opera, OO.org, GAIM, RealPlayer, Adobe Reader -- the applications that I use in Windows run very well on Linux too.
I select an application with ONE click and then click install and it gets installed.
Linux is there for me and for many of my friends.
Vendors will wake up eventually and write and compile stuff for Linux -- they just have to smell the profit.
IMO, MacTel could be a Linux killer, or at least help keep it a niche OS instead of a major mainstream competitor.
IMO, this is the silliest idea I heard lately.
MacTel will kill Linux when:
1. it will be free
2. it will be gratis
3. it will not be dumbed down.
4. it will work on just as many architectures as Linux does.
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"Nice. Too bad its taken over 11 years for someone to optimize this in a relevant browser."
;-)
I guess that's a stab at Opera as not being popular enough. Opera has the fastest back and forward buttons (it even keeps for you the text that you typed in a form). It's not my fault that you use substandard (but relevant) browsers.
Signed: one proud Opera user (one of the two users
The accent here is on open not on standards. What I mean by that is that with the technological pace it's going to be hard to use only technology that was standardized by I don't know what international agency, however if you chose to use a technology maybe it's better to use the one that has open specifications.
So maybe the word we are looking for is specifications not standards. I mean of course it's better to use a standard but in case you have to chose between open specifications and closed specifications -- the wise choise is the first one.
"The death rate is so low that I can hardly imagine selective forces having a large effect on evolution."
Actually, just came to think about this: those who blow themself up they autoexclude from "natural" selection -- so probably in long term the stupid gene will disappear or be very rare in the population.
" I think I'd MUCH rather be called a Commie."
Well, whatever floats your boat, however, I think that all that ends in "ism" is smelling bad.
Why don't you add that explanation, if it's better , to Wikipedia?
I'm sure that's not the only tax that Massachusetts residents pay. (for example if you own a house and a car you pay tax for those).
(I'm not supporting any left or right wing ideas in this discussion, I am just wondering if that 9.8% and the 30th place say all the truth about taxes in MA)
I've been using Linux only for a little bit more than one year on different hardware and I never had a kernel crash.
"n fact, it's my impression that average users simply stay with what they have"
I totally agree with this observation. Switching from one OS to another is not something that most of the people like or are willing to do. Actually that the basis of MS monopoly. However, many people, there are now millions, swiched to Linux -- I guess that shows something, probably people frustration with Windows or with Microsoft actions.
I find it funny when an average guy clams to know what the "average" PC user needs, wants or thinks.
I only know what I need:
1. cheap or free: 1-0 for "Open Source"
2. software without viruses or adware: 2-0 for "Open Source"
3. good technology: 3-0 for "Open Source"
4. good community: 4-0 for "Open Source"
5. freedom to inspect and modify the code: 5-0 for "Open Source"
I don't care about the name, I do care about the points above. Let's say that the "average" user doesn't care about the no. 5 but I'm pretty sure it will if he realize that 1 through 4 are related to point no. 5
I'm sorry I don't have any mod points.
I agree with you completely.
I know there are people that get allergy when they heard the word "freedom" especially when it comes to software. I've come to realize that that's the most important feature. For exaple I know that people use Linux for: security, cost reasons. However those are features that can be replicated by others: Mac is pretty secure, Window XP SP2 is much more secure than the crap before and although few people here would belive it I'm sure Microsoft can make a secure product.
Cost? Well, MS might lower the price OS, when you buy a computer I think that $50 goes to MS (the so called MS tax) that and the price of boxed OS can be lowered to compete with commercial Linux distros.
However, none of these companies is willing to give you freedom and to fight for it. Stallman does that and that's why I appreciate him.
Although the basic GNU/Linux system is free software, most of the GNU/Linux versions now available include a small amount of non-free software--just enough to spoil them as a way to attain freedom. But Linspire is in a class by itself; large and important parts of this system are non-free. No other GNU/Linux distribution has backslided so far away from freedom. Switching from MS Windows to Linspire does not bring you to freedom, it just gets you a different master.
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https://e.ututo.org.ar/xp/modules/news/article.ph
Actually it's a Red Screen Of Death (RSOD)
And you thought Microsoft doesn't innovate....
I can't read the label there, kind of small, it says something like "This OEM Software cannot be delivered without the required hardware... "
Ah.. look on the border it clearly say "For distribution only with a new PC" But I don't want a new PC and I want legal software -- otherwise as I said I could probably get it for 10 bucks.
Thanks for the good intention though
It comes from amazon.com, actually it's $246.99 or so, look for windows XP full version (not the upgrade version).0 22PTI4/qid=1122430512/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_sbs_2/102- 6928813-6372133?v=glance&s=software&n=507846
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00
What you got might not be 100% legal (my guess, or it was some special rebate). If I look a little bit I can find Windows XP for 10 bucks, but that doens't mean anything.
Anyway, Microsoft did start to cut prices.... I wonder why... hmmm... maybe because of their kind heart.
15% in their wild dreams...
What would be the problem?
That's exactly the kind of reasoning peple would have used against iPod: "why would Apple sell mp3 players, they will no longer be a computer company".
So what? Do you think they would cry if they had huge success selling a $150 OS? (of how much is Mac now...) BTW, windows is like $250 the full versions.
BTW... Linux is still $0 last time I checked (take that Mac fanboys!)
$700, man that's excessive. Some people live with that amount for a year in some poor countries. You could also buy two computers for that amount.
Maybe it's time for you guys to look into free OS (Linux, BSD) and free software. BTW, there are free tools to print to PDF (PDFCreator, OpenOffice.org, and I'm sure many more).
'installing Firefox opens a lot of security holes, it's not a safe program'.
That's funny, I suppose that IE is a safe program... not to mention the whole Windows crapform (sorry I felt like inventing a word).
Great! I see now that Linux guys will hate the guts of Mac fanboys... I already started to feel the rage.
It's not a point of having "about everything you'd want" eventually all the important OSes will have "about everything you'd want" however their will not all be:
1. free
2. gratis or cheap
Granted that's not important for many people, it's important though for many Linux users.
I also don't trust Apple when it comes to free standards, one example is iTunes and iPod (they will support open standards only when it's convenient for them)
I got it doing "apt-get install mozilla-firefox" (actually that was only for upgrade since it already came installed on my Linux distro).
So this are 2 instances when users are not counted:
- it comes already installed.
- install it with apt-get or other tool from the distro repository, most of the distro have it in the repos and they don't count the downloads.
My point is that Microsoft in an official document has accepted the idea that using "restricted user"
is kind of screwed up for now. So my guess my mileage is not unique to me. I'm sure though that in some cases it works just fine, I don't doubt you.
Can you imagine though if most of the people would respond to the scammers, than the scammers would really have big problems to sort the "useful" e-mails (the very few who were fooled) out of the "spam" (most of the people who just make fun on them).
"So yeah, restricted users work fine."
/ articles/lpuseacc.mspx
If something works for you it doesn't mean it works for anybody. Please read Microsoft document: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/secnews
particulary this part: "Today, due to awkward complications that arise when it is employed, least privilege is not in active use on most Microsoft Windows-based systems."
It sounds to me like a crappy way to run programs, exactly what I experienced.
I'm using NOW my ATI video card and I just checked the "Logitech" label on my mouse...
I never used "FairUse, ACDSee, GetRight, XFire, Ulead Video", but my Firefox, Opera, OO.org, GAIM, RealPlayer, Adobe Reader -- the applications that I use in Windows run very well on Linux too.
I select an application with ONE click and then click install and it gets installed.
Linux is there for me and for many of my friends.
Vendors will wake up eventually and write and compile stuff for Linux -- they just have to smell the profit.
IMO, MacTel could be a Linux killer, or at least help keep it a niche OS instead of a major mainstream competitor.
IMO, this is the silliest idea I heard lately.
MacTel will kill Linux when:
1. it will be free
2. it will be gratis
3. it will not be dumbed down.
4. it will work on just as many architectures as Linux does.