Well, I've been waiting for this moment for about 10 years. I'm a real big fan of Microsoft Anti-Virus (MSAV). Heck, I've even been getting updates from them ever since (with that coupon on the back of the DOS 6.x User's Manual, remember?). Finally, I can upgrade! Hoooray!!!
"Organically" is a word that the meat industry has affectively assimilated into culture to lure customers. I would hardly agree that the animals are "happier" or have less "poisons" (actually, they're used to make the cattle grow faster and fatter and are known to contain traces of lead and arsenic). So now we've got a "organic" meat industry versus a "non-organic" meat industry.
*nods* Same reason I buy organically raised beef and chicken. Better taste, happier animal, fewer poisons.
Pure evidence that they've managed to fool the average individual.
...but this is the sort of bullshit rhetoric that reinforces other's opinions of vegetarians thinking they are superior to everyone else.
Please cite where I stated that "vegetarians are superior to non-vegetarians".
What do YOU know that others don't simply because they are meat eaters?
I, in fact, know quite a lot. How? Because I've got evidence, unlike you who resides to ad hominem, the coward's way of trying to make a point (no offense).
Do they give you some sort of book when you join PETA that fills you in on the secrets of the omnivore infidels that others are not privvy to?
I'm not a member of Peta. AFAIK, Peta resorts to undercover footage via audio and video on real factory farms. Can you suggest a better method?
Here's a suggestion for you, keep that shit to yourself, and worry about all the hypocritical shit you are doing.
Perhaps you'd like to know that Einstein, da Vinci and many others famous people were vegetarians (search on google). Most people would hardly agree that they were hipocrits.
Don't worry about me and what my friends are doing, because (contrary to what your ego may tell you) we do not give a flying fuck what you think.
This is typical arrogance and ignorance. You won't believe how many people I've known like you.
You wanna limit your diet to vegetables that have been genetically modified and then marinated in a pesticide stew, be my guest. Perhaps you haven't read some of my other posts, but just to fill you in, I'm a farmer and I own my own farm. Incidentally, I don't use GE foods. Besides, you think that a person that cares so much about what he eats will overlook that so easily?
When other groups campaign against a lifestyle choice they disagree with they are painted as racist or sexist, militant vegetarians are just lucky their "cause" is socially acceptable right now in exactly the same way hating negroes or gays has been accepted in the past.
Actually, maybe you didn't know, but we're I'm from, vegetarianism has always been accepted. I don't know of a place or time when it wasn't. Granted, it was considered obscure or radicle back in the days, but it certainly isn't today by the vast majority of the population.
You look after yourself, and give others the courtesy or respect to do the same.
Thank you, I certainly *DO* look after myself. I expect the same for yourself.
You may have felt offended by my comments but that certainly wasn't my intention. When I made the comment about people puking on the spot, I wasn't kidding. Unfortunately for me, it's happened right in front of me.You'll *seriously* be surprised when you learn what is really inside the meat you eat (even with supposedly "organically" raised cow). I'm not going to make lists or anything; I'll let you figure it out (if you've got the courage). Where and when you learn is for you to decide. True, some people seriously don't care what they eat and don't want to know and that type of attitude is the most dangerous to health. To wrap this up, I'm going to leave you with a quote. You may or may not agree with it right now, but I hope one day you will.
âTrue human goodness, in all its purity and freedom, can come to the fore only when its recipient has no power. Mankindâ(TM)s true moral test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude toward those who are at its mercy: the animals. And in this respect, mankind has suffered a fundamental debacle, a debacle so fundamental that all others stem from it.â(TM) (Can't remember who or where; if someone knows, PLEASE let me know).
Yeah, Ghandi responded to stimulus just like any animal....
...Which is my point. That's sufficient evidence that animals (not just humans) infact DO experience pain when put through similar traumatic stimulus and there's no need for skeptical games questioning if other animals feel pain.
This is such a stupid comment that it hardly deserves a reply.
Yes, I agree that you're comments are full of so much doggerel that they hardly deserve a reply.
And many millions and billions of plants are killed just to feed cattle whom are killed afterwards anyways. It is true that plants (like all other lifeforms) do in fact possess a physical response system. Whether or not it can be considered pain is a philisophical question.
Other vegetarians avoid egg and milk on not on the false basis that they feel pain.
...and taking care of ourselves comes before caring for the environment and other live creatures.
Typical arrogance/ignorance. Trying to explain to a person like you (who isn't willing to even try to learn) is a waste of my time.
First of all, I don't sell my food, dickhead. Second, more than half of the water used in the US is wasted just for raising cattle on farms.
You're comments are full of so much doggerel that even you're parents wouldn't be impressed. Load up google, search some articles, read them and then talk.
The truth is that animals are not humans nor are they equal to humans or the same as humans.
A very egoistic and self-centered comment.
Nor should you, it's perfectly natural for humans to eat meat.
Perfectly natural? Most women that die of breast cancer are meat eaters. Same for men when it comes to many other different diseases. If you think it's perfectly natural, then perhaps you can explain why Einstein was vegetarian. Apparently, he didn't think the same either.
I do not have any moral problems with killing animals for food.
I would not knowingly cause an animal unnecessary pain or stress. Nor should you, it displays a lack of concern for obvioulsly sentient beings.
You'd be surprised how much "unnecessary pain and stress" is involved with modern factory farming. Besides, "killing" and "sentient" don't go together.
Perhaps you didn't know, but Einstein was vegetarian. Most would agree that he wasn't brain damaged. Also, I'm not the smartest person from where I'm around, but I'm definetely smarter than most average people, which somewhat contradicts many articles I've found on google.
Actually, I enjoy eating a lot of soy which, if you didn't know, has more protein than any kind of meat. Thank you for your worthless comment, and next time, before you try to make a point, make sure you know what the hell you're talking about.
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Propaganda? It's in the news. Do you think you have better scientific merit or expertise that could prove otherwise? I don't know where you're from, but I don't think I want to know.
Thank you brother, I feel glad that there is someone amongst myself. After having to try to face many people by myself, at last, there is another voice. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
I must admit that I don't always take the best approaches to try to advocate vaganism/vegetarianism, but I'm trying and willing to learn. Thank you and God bless.
"My scientist statement was a serious question to your statement that you were a vegitarian because it is morally wrong to take the life of one being only to benefit yourself. I didn't understand the 'only to benefit yourself' qualifier. "
When a person kills an animal to eat the animal, that only benefits the person. That doesn't benefit the animal to take it's life.
Animals that die naturally are ones like cows that die at the age of 15, not ones that die in two years at factory farms. I think you'll find that a sensible example. Not willing to face the truth is called a state of "denial". That truly exemplifies your inability to learn and change since you are unwilling to do either.
Yeah well I'm not the one who forgot the closing i / am I
âoePeta should be advocating the fact that animals are sentient beings, not a renewable resource. And for those pathetic scientists who even created such a device should deserve death at the least, using their own stupid machines.â
Firstly, your car analogy is flawed. A car is a device which is created to transport, not to destroy. It could be used to destroy if used carelessly, but thatâ(TM)s not what itâ(TM)s created for. On the other hand, and device designed to destroy is created specifically to destroy, so your analogy is moot. Now, if a hydrogen bomb goes off in a large city, would you blame the user or the person who solely used his entire life to create and perfect such a weapon? Most people would probably blame both.
âoeWhere did you use the "=" sign there? You said scientists who create a technology should be put to death "at the least" (I'm wondering what your "most" would be...). You did not say the users of the machines should be put to death, you said the creators. That's like suing Ford for a drunk driver killing your relative. (Pssst... it's not equal.)â
Actually, I was answering a question from your previous thread that readâ¦
âoeBut it's something completely different when you try to value the life of one organism over another.â
I never did try to value the life of one organism over another, in fact, Iâ(TM)ve been advocating for the whole time that animals deserve the same respect and treatment as humans, i.e. equality, so I donâ(TM)t know where youâ(TM)re getting your point from.
âoeBut carrots, potatoes and beets cannot regenerate; you kill them by harvesting them.â
Actually, they can. If you take the top part of a carrot or beet (part with the green leaves) and put it back in soil, it DOES regenerate and I even do it myself (why wonâ(TM)t you try it and see for yourself?â. A similar thing is possible with potatoes, although it takes longer and to tell you the truth, I donâ(TM)t do that with them. You have to soak the green stuff that appears after two to three weeks or so (could take longer). This can also be done with pineapples (top part), sugar cane, cucumber and many other vegetables.
"Some single cell organisms are known to react and withdraw (run!) from heat. Is this not a single-cell pain reaction without a complex human-like nervous system? How can a single cell make this determination without having a 'brain'?"
Interestingly, the same web site says the following:
âoeWhat about the 'gifts' thing? Here is where plants are much nicer to us than we are to them. They give us FRUIT! Fruits are the gifts from plants to animals. It's much better than what we give them! But there is a catch - a payback is required! The implied contract is that we help them distribute their seeds, which in turn benefits both animals and plants - the plant babies grow up to make more fruit.â
I certainly do eat my fruits (plenty) but I admit I donâ(TM)t redistribute the seeds. Thank you for enlightening me, I really appreciate it. Also, we are, after all, only human. We are not God or anything even close. Now, am I against eating meat? No. Am I against the way we cultivate meat? Yes. If a person has to hunt and kill his prey and then eat his prey, which is perfectly acceptable. It is an instinctive practice that all carnivores do. Also, back in the days, animals used to be respected and thanked when they gave their lives for whoever ended up eating them. How many people do you know that do that today? People simply accept meat and take it for granted, without even caring about the animal itself or what its sacrifice.
âoe26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creepi
Incidentally, I happen to be a farmer and I grow my own vegetables and incidentally, I don't use pesticides. So why won't you enjoy for hot dogs full of chicken crap and ground beef full of just about everything.
Yes beef. Beef which is the leading cause of food poisoning in the US since it's full of additives. Go ahead, enjoy yourself. Just don't try sueing anyone if you find it a bit poisoned.
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Nutritous? A common myth among meat eaters. Meat at grocery stores contains plenty of additives; it's not pure. It's also the leading cause of food poisoning in the US. EDUCATE YOURSELF.
a PART of ethics is the lessening of pain. That does not create any results. We need solutions that work, not skeptical games. It's time to cut the crap talk and start doing something serious.
That may prove to be the case but you saying it doesn't make it so.
READ www.peta.org and EDUCATE yourself.
I love fanatics who arrive at their firmly held belief after years of consideration and reasoned thinking and then expect me to immediately accept their truth because they shouted it out at me.
Fanatics? Maybe you should use your stupid computer and READ on the INTERNET. The stuff I've said is FACT, not something I've made up without basis, as you have. You're useless statement about scientists genetically modifying animals for the purpose of "cultivation" truly exemplifies you're inability to try to LEARN and CHANGE. And no, I wouldn't be in line with my bun, I've got stuff a lot healthier and tastier already infront of me. You've abused your already depleting brain enough for one night.
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I have dealth with many fools like you all my life. I did not value the life of one organism over other. I said they are EQUAL. Do you know basic math? Probably not. When things are equal, they are said to have the same value. Sign. This is just a waste of my time. Get an education and then we'll talk.
Even eating apples and other fruits can be seen as "evil" -- you're depriving the tree's children (the seeds) from their nurturing environment (the reason the tree makes apples is to feed the seeds).
Making these comments shows how much crack you've been smoking lately. Plants do not possess a nervous system, which controls all feeling of pain. Unlike animals, if an apple is broken off the tree, first, it doesn't feel pain (no nervous system) and second, it can REGROW the apple i.e. regenerate. How many chickens do you know that can do that? You Americans seriously have a real lack of quality education. EDUCATE YOURSELF at www.peta.org. Pathetic moron.
You, sir, are a hypocrite. And especially in your last paragraph, where you state that certain humans should be put to death for killing animals. You value animal life over human life?
I guess you still don't understand what = means. GET a real education, and then we'll talk.
This appears nowhere in either our laws or our religious documents (for any religion) The whole purpose of Peta is to treat animals just like humans and vice versa. The fact that it's not included in our laws doesn't mean that we shouldn't put it in consideration. It's also not a law in a lot of countries to write malicious code, i.e. viruses. Religious documents? READ the BIBLE. "Live and let live" is one example. There are MANY others throughtout the bible and other religious scriptures.
I have dealth with many foolish people all my life, and you're no different. Lack of any education is quite evident in your comments. EDUCATE YOURSELF.
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It's not hypothesized. Scientists at Hong Kong have confirmed that it is a result of factory farming. Lack of knowledge. Read and educate yourself at www.peta.org
Handling-caused injuries and deaths by 50%? You're telling me that chickens cause "death" to the humans that are handling them? Very amusing. Injuries? sure, makes sense, except the fact then when the chicken attacks, it is trying to defend itself, similar to what you would do if someone unnecessarily harassed you. Ultimately, the chicken still gets killed. This has no benefit for the chicken. This is just statistical malpractice at its best.
Thank you, I appreciate your support. You're correct, the Ghandi approach is defintely the way to go. But even Ghandi had to face oppresion along his way for power. I am simply trying to "educate" the hapless individuals who know abosolutely no facts about what they're talking about. I bet if most of them knew what is REALLY inside their meat they purchase at the grocery store, they would probably puke on the spot.
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Well, I've been waiting for this moment for about 10 years. I'm a real big fan of Microsoft Anti-Virus (MSAV). Heck, I've even been getting updates from them ever since (with that coupon on the back of the DOS 6.x User's Manual, remember?). Finally, I can upgrade! Hoooray!!!
"Organically" is a word that the meat industry has affectively assimilated into culture to lure customers. I would hardly agree that the animals are "happier" or have less "poisons" (actually, they're used to make the cattle grow faster and fatter and are known to contain traces of lead and arsenic). So now we've got a "organic" meat industry versus a "non-organic" meat industry.
*nods* Same reason I buy organically raised beef and chicken. Better taste, happier animal, fewer poisons.
Pure evidence that they've managed to fool the average individual.
...but this is the sort of bullshit rhetoric that reinforces other's opinions of vegetarians thinking they are superior to everyone else.
Please cite where I stated that "vegetarians are superior to non-vegetarians".
What do YOU know that others don't simply because they are meat eaters?
I, in fact, know quite a lot. How? Because I've got evidence, unlike you who resides to ad hominem, the coward's way of trying to make a point (no offense).
Do they give you some sort of book when you join PETA that fills you in on the secrets of the omnivore infidels that others are not privvy to?
I'm not a member of Peta. AFAIK, Peta resorts to undercover footage via audio and video on real factory farms. Can you suggest a better method?
Here's a suggestion for you, keep that shit to yourself, and worry about all the hypocritical shit you are doing.
Perhaps you'd like to know that Einstein, da Vinci and many others famous people were vegetarians (search on google). Most people would hardly agree that they were hipocrits.
Don't worry about me and what my friends are doing, because (contrary to what your ego may tell you) we do not give a flying fuck what you think.
This is typical arrogance and ignorance. You won't believe how many people I've known like you.
You wanna limit your diet to vegetables that have been genetically modified and then marinated in a pesticide stew, be my guest. Perhaps you haven't read some of my other posts, but just to fill you in, I'm a farmer and I own my own farm. Incidentally, I don't use GE foods. Besides, you think that a person that cares so much about what he eats will overlook that so easily?
When other groups campaign against a lifestyle choice they disagree with they are painted as racist or sexist, militant vegetarians are just lucky their "cause" is socially acceptable right now in exactly the same way hating negroes or gays has been accepted in the past.
Actually, maybe you didn't know, but we're I'm from, vegetarianism has always been accepted. I don't know of a place or time when it wasn't. Granted, it was considered obscure or radicle back in the days, but it certainly isn't today by the vast majority of the population.
You look after yourself, and give others the courtesy or respect to do the same.
Thank you, I certainly *DO* look after myself. I expect the same for yourself.
You may have felt offended by my comments but that certainly wasn't my intention. When I made the comment about people puking on the spot, I wasn't kidding. Unfortunately for me, it's happened right in front of me.You'll *seriously* be surprised when you learn what is really inside the meat you eat (even with supposedly "organically" raised cow). I'm not going to make lists or anything; I'll let you figure it out (if you've got the courage). Where and when you learn is for you to decide. True, some people seriously don't care what they eat and don't want to know and that type of attitude is the most dangerous to health. To wrap this up, I'm going to leave you with a quote. You may or may not agree with it right now, but I hope one day you will.
âTrue human goodness, in all its purity and freedom, can come to the fore only when its recipient has no power. Mankindâ(TM)s true moral test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude toward those who are at its mercy: the animals. And in this respect, mankind has suffered a fundamental debacle, a debacle so fundamental that all others stem from it.â(TM) (Can't remember who or where; if someone knows, PLEASE let me know).
Yeah, Ghandi responded to stimulus just like any animal....
...Which is my point. That's sufficient evidence that animals (not just humans) infact DO experience pain when put through similar traumatic stimulus and there's no need for skeptical games questioning if other animals feel pain.
This is such a stupid comment that it hardly deserves a reply.
Yes, I agree that you're comments are full of so much doggerel that they hardly deserve a reply.
Yes, without doubt, plants are also very well alive as animals.
... so you kill to live just like every other animal on this planet.
Actually, it's not that simple. Maybe some useful information here. Plenty of other stuff if you search at google.
I draw my line at eating people (and dogs and cats and stuff), but this isn't an absolute moral thing.
My line also isn't an absolute moral thing. It involves the environment, health and many other things as well.
And many millions and billions of plants are killed just to feed cattle whom are killed afterwards anyways. It is true that plants (like all other lifeforms) do in fact possess a physical response system. Whether or not it can be considered pain is a philisophical question.
...and taking care of ourselves comes before caring for the environment and other live creatures.
Other vegetarians avoid egg and milk on not on the false basis that they feel pain.
Typical arrogance/ignorance. Trying to explain to a person like you (who isn't willing to even try to learn) is a waste of my time.
First of all, I don't sell my food, dickhead. Second, more than half of the water used in the US is wasted just for raising cattle on farms.
You're comments are full of so much doggerel that even you're parents wouldn't be impressed. Load up google, search some articles, read them and then talk.
The truth is that animals are not humans nor are they equal to humans or the same as humans.
A very egoistic and self-centered comment.
Nor should you, it's perfectly natural for humans to eat meat.
Perfectly natural? Most women that die of breast cancer are meat eaters. Same for men when it comes to many other different diseases. If you think it's perfectly natural, then perhaps you can explain why Einstein was vegetarian. Apparently, he didn't think the same either.
I do not have any moral problems with killing animals for food.
I would not knowingly cause an animal unnecessary pain or stress. Nor should you, it displays a lack of concern for obvioulsly sentient beings.
You'd be surprised how much "unnecessary pain and stress" is involved with modern factory farming. Besides, "killing" and "sentient" don't go together.
THAT is the truth.
Perhaps you didn't know, but Einstein was vegetarian. Most would agree that he wasn't brain damaged. Also, I'm not the smartest person from where I'm around, but I'm definetely smarter than most average people, which somewhat contradicts many articles I've found on google.
Actually, I enjoy eating a lot of soy which, if you didn't know, has more protein than any kind of meat. Thank you for your worthless comment, and next time, before you try to make a point, make sure you know what the hell you're talking about.
Propaganda? It's in the news. Do you think you have better scientific merit or expertise that could prove otherwise? I don't know where you're from, but I don't think I want to know.
Thank you brother, I feel glad that there is someone amongst myself. After having to try to face many people by myself, at last, there is another voice. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
I must admit that I don't always take the best approaches to try to advocate vaganism/vegetarianism, but I'm trying and willing to learn. Thank you and God bless.
"My scientist statement was a serious question to your statement that you were a vegitarian because it is morally wrong to take the life of one being only to benefit yourself. I didn't understand the 'only to benefit yourself' qualifier. "
When a person kills an animal to eat the animal, that only benefits the person. That doesn't benefit the animal to take it's life.
Animals that die naturally are ones like cows that die at the age of 15, not ones that die in two years at factory farms. I think you'll find that a sensible example. Not willing to face the truth is called a state of "denial". That truly exemplifies your inability to learn and change since you are unwilling to do either.
Yeah well I'm not the one who forgot the closing i / am I
Thank you, grammar troll, I'll keep that in mind.
âoePeta should be advocating the fact that animals are sentient beings, not a renewable resource. And for those pathetic scientists who even created such a device should deserve death at the least, using their own stupid machines.â
Firstly, your car analogy is flawed. A car is a device which is created to transport, not to destroy. It could be used to destroy if used carelessly, but thatâ(TM)s not what itâ(TM)s created for. On the other hand, and device designed to destroy is created specifically to destroy, so your analogy is moot. Now, if a hydrogen bomb goes off in a large city, would you blame the user or the person who solely used his entire life to create and perfect such a weapon? Most people would probably blame both.
âoeWhere did you use the "=" sign there? You said scientists who create a technology should be put to death "at the least" (I'm wondering what your "most" would be...). You did not say the users of the machines should be put to death, you said the creators. That's like suing Ford for a drunk driver killing your relative. (Pssst... it's not equal.)â
Actually, I was answering a question from your previous thread that readâ¦
âoeBut it's something completely different when you try to value the life of one organism over another.â
I never did try to value the life of one organism over another, in fact, Iâ(TM)ve been advocating for the whole time that animals deserve the same respect and treatment as humans, i.e. equality, so I donâ(TM)t know where youâ(TM)re getting your point from.
âoeBut carrots, potatoes and beets cannot regenerate; you kill them by harvesting them.â
Actually, they can. If you take the top part of a carrot or beet (part with the green leaves) and put it back in soil, it DOES regenerate and I even do it myself (why wonâ(TM)t you try it and see for yourself?â. A similar thing is possible with potatoes, although it takes longer and to tell you the truth, I donâ(TM)t do that with them. You have to soak the green stuff that appears after two to three weeks or so (could take longer). This can also be done with pineapples (top part), sugar cane, cucumber and many other vegetables.
"Some single cell organisms are known to react and withdraw (run!) from heat. Is this not a single-cell pain reaction without a complex human-like nervous system? How can a single cell make this determination without having a 'brain'?"
Interestingly, the same web site says the following:
âoeWhat about the 'gifts' thing? Here is where plants are much nicer to us than we are to them. They give us FRUIT! Fruits are the gifts from plants to animals. It's much better than what we give them! But there is a catch - a payback is required! The implied contract is that we help them distribute their seeds, which in turn benefits both animals and plants - the plant babies grow up to make more fruit.â
I certainly do eat my fruits (plenty) but I admit I donâ(TM)t redistribute the seeds. Thank you for enlightening me, I really appreciate it. Also, we are, after all, only human. We are not God or anything even close. Now, am I against eating meat? No. Am I against the way we cultivate meat? Yes. If a person has to hunt and kill his prey and then eat his prey, which is perfectly acceptable. It is an instinctive practice that all carnivores do. Also, back in the days, animals used to be respected and thanked when they gave their lives for whoever ended up eating them. How many people do you know that do that today? People simply accept meat and take it for granted, without even caring about the animal itself or what its sacrifice.
âoe26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creepi
Incidentally, I happen to be a farmer and I grow my own vegetables and incidentally, I don't use pesticides. So why won't you enjoy for hot dogs full of chicken crap and ground beef full of just about everything.
Thanks for the spelling correction, grammar troll. That's hardly on-topic.
Zippy the pinhead? I've never heard of such person. Well, I guess it takes one to know one.
You may purchase your meat from farmers who only feed organic produce to their livestock. However, most farmers don't. Lucky you.
Incidentally, I happen to be a farmer and I don't use pesticides.
Yes beef. Beef which is the leading cause of food poisoning in the US since it's full of additives. Go ahead, enjoy yourself. Just don't try sueing anyone if you find it a bit poisoned.
Nutritous? A common myth among meat eaters. Meat at grocery stores contains plenty of additives; it's not pure. It's also the leading cause of food poisoning in the US. EDUCATE YOURSELF.
a PART of ethics is the lessening of pain. That does not create any results. We need solutions that work, not skeptical games. It's time to cut the crap talk and start doing something serious.
That may prove to be the case but you saying it doesn't make it so.
READ www.peta.org and EDUCATE yourself.
I love fanatics who arrive at their firmly held belief after years of consideration and reasoned thinking and then expect me to immediately accept their truth because they shouted it out at me.
Fanatics? Maybe you should use your stupid computer and READ on the INTERNET. The stuff I've said is FACT, not something I've made up without basis, as you have. You're useless statement about scientists genetically modifying animals for the purpose of "cultivation" truly exemplifies you're inability to try to LEARN and CHANGE. And no, I wouldn't be in line with my bun, I've got stuff a lot healthier and tastier already infront of me. You've abused your already depleting brain enough for one night.
I have dealth with many fools like you all my life. I did not value the life of one organism over other. I said they are EQUAL. Do you know basic math? Probably not. When things are equal, they are said to have the same value. Sign. This is just a waste of my time. Get an education and then we'll talk.
Even eating apples and other fruits can be seen as "evil" -- you're depriving the tree's children (the seeds) from their nurturing environment (the reason the tree makes apples is to feed the seeds).
Making these comments shows how much crack you've been smoking lately. Plants do not possess a nervous system, which controls all feeling of pain. Unlike animals, if an apple is broken off the tree, first, it doesn't feel pain (no nervous system) and second, it can REGROW the apple i.e. regenerate. How many chickens do you know that can do that? You Americans seriously have a real lack of quality education. EDUCATE YOURSELF at www.peta.org. Pathetic moron.
You, sir, are a hypocrite. And especially in your last paragraph, where you state that certain humans should be put to death for killing animals. You value animal life over human life?
I guess you still don't understand what = means. GET a real education, and then we'll talk.
This appears nowhere in either our laws or our religious documents (for any religion) The whole purpose of Peta is to treat animals just like humans and vice versa. The fact that it's not included in our laws doesn't mean that we shouldn't put it in consideration. It's also not a law in a lot of countries to write malicious code, i.e. viruses. Religious documents? READ the BIBLE. "Live and let live" is one example. There are MANY others throughtout the bible and other religious scriptures.
I have dealth with many foolish people all my life, and you're no different. Lack of any education is quite evident in your comments. EDUCATE YOURSELF.
It's not hypothesized. Scientists at Hong Kong have confirmed that it is a result of factory farming. Lack of knowledge. Read and educate yourself at www.peta.org
Handling-caused injuries and deaths by 50%? You're telling me that chickens cause "death" to the humans that are handling them? Very amusing. Injuries? sure, makes sense, except the fact then when the chicken attacks, it is trying to defend itself, similar to what you would do if someone unnecessarily harassed you. Ultimately, the chicken still gets killed. This has no benefit for the chicken. This is just statistical malpractice at its best.
Thank you, I appreciate your support. You're correct, the Ghandi approach is defintely the way to go. But even Ghandi had to face oppresion along his way for power. I am simply trying to "educate" the hapless individuals who know abosolutely no facts about what they're talking about. I bet if most of them knew what is REALLY inside their meat they purchase at the grocery store, they would probably puke on the spot.