This isn't new news, but the scientific establishment that gets the budgets to conduct space exploration is selling us Mars because they know it is doable within the context of current budgets and technologies. Mars is pretty much way too dry and has been. It also lacks a magnetosphere and despite *one lame little plate* any hint of past large scale plate tectonics. Mars is interesting for sure, but it would be nice to also have a real base on luna with which to assemble a vehicle to take us on to Mars and with which to test technologies with the intent of sending humans on to Mars. Europa and even Venus deserve attention as well, but it seems Mars is in our comfort zone so we keep going back....
The moderation sorts itself out. Enough moderation occurs so there isn't a heavy bias and the general consensus on the best moderation for comments gets sorted. It's awesome. Of course if you cruise all comments like god intended you don't lose any comments due to your threshold being set too high.
Don't take the moderation too seriously. The meta-moderation has a karma all its own...*smile*
We lost 13,000 maufacturing jobs last month.. that's a drop in the bucket. Now, look where wealth is generated and it comes from manufacturing things. Here is just one article on our decline. When whomever is in charge wants to get serious about generating wealth again they'd do well to lift the burdens on U.S. manufacturers, get factories built and start building things again. Until then we are going backwards.
You make too much sense, especially regarding the manufacturing. Our manufacturing base is dead and gone and if we are ever to regenerate economicallly it will be when we begin making things again...
Talk about circling a square... those two trends don't match much at all other than the more heavily manipulated one (U3) shows a better trend than the more honest one (U6)..
Thanks, and that's it exactly. Honestly, the rocks are way too deformed for it not to either be an impact crater, or... pehaps.. a Kimberlite tube of large proportions... but, it could be a monster cave, in which case that's cool too. I'm in this for the science, not trying to internet famous or a impact crater finder.You can bet I'm going to keep on it. It's fun.... and it's interesting.
Nowhere, ever have I stated there is a central peak. Take long look at the GIS map and compare it to the Orthologocal image. Not only do they match but they do in fact show a rebound/shock ring that is unifrom across the floor of the crater/pipe. It's round. Two years ago everyone I. Spoke to told me I was crazy and it was square. Does it look sqaure to you???
I've tested these with acid. If the sample won't react with boiling acid (nitric or sulfuric) why would it stand to reason they are carbonates reacting to rainwater?
By they way.. it's been in my family for 40 years, and the family before that for 50 years... And no one has dumped trash and burned stuff..It's been logged twice. The first had a steam sawmill and cut the virgin timber around 1901. The second time was after a tornado and it was logged/chipped and then planted in pine trees. I know sinkholes. This is no sinkhole, and the evidence above is a great first/second step in bearing that out.
This is a crater and I'm gonna nail it even if it occurs in East Tennessee. Is there a law saying that meteorites don't hit limestone? Hardly.
I fully intend on getting thin sections done. The gravel IS angular. There are heavily deformed Ordovician Age rocks. Unfortunately, where this area is a Karst area. You can't pick up the feature and move it to an area that makes it easier. Is this a Karst feature? I doubt it very seriously. However thin sections for shocked quartz are next on the list. I appreciate the time you took to reply. No topsoil was never pushed into the middle of this feature. Yes, a road was cut in pushing regolith into one corner and making it look a lot squarer than it is. I know the full history behind the site going back over 120 years. There is rounded material i.e. (sand) in the soil around the crater at a microscopic level because the soil is 200+ million years old and already contained HEAVILY WEATHERED ancient rock..
The investigation continues. Thin samples of severely deformed rocks are next.
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A big *amen* to both of you.
This isn't new news, but the scientific establishment that gets the budgets to conduct space exploration is selling us Mars because they know it is doable within the context of current budgets and technologies. Mars is pretty much way too dry and has been. It also lacks a magnetosphere and despite *one lame little plate* any hint of past large scale plate tectonics. Mars is interesting for sure, but it would be nice to also have a real base on luna with which to assemble a vehicle to take us on to Mars and with which to test technologies with the intent of sending humans on to Mars. Europa and even Venus deserve attention as well, but it seems Mars is in our comfort zone so we keep going back....
Oh yeah.... heh. ;)
The moderation sorts itself out. Enough moderation occurs so there isn't a heavy bias and the general consensus on the best moderation for comments gets sorted. It's awesome. Of course if you cruise all comments like god intended you don't lose any comments due to your threshold being set too high.
Don't take the moderation too seriously. The meta-moderation has a karma all its own...*smile*
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We lost 13,000 maufacturing jobs last month.. that's a drop in the bucket. Now, look where wealth is generated and it comes from manufacturing things. Here is just one article on our decline. When whomever is in charge wants to get serious about generating wealth again they'd do well to lift the burdens on U.S. manufacturers, get factories built and start building things again. Until then we are going backwards.
You make too much sense, especially regarding the manufacturing. Our manufacturing base is dead and gone and if we are ever to regenerate economicallly it will be when we begin making things again...
Isn't it already up to companies to decide what steps to take for security?
Talk about circling a square... those two trends don't match much at all other than the more heavily manipulated one (U3) shows a better trend than the more honest one (U6)..
Cool. Better yet when in the area one day, ping me. :)
Thanks, and that's it exactly. Honestly, the rocks are way too deformed for it not to either be an impact crater, or... pehaps.. a Kimberlite tube of large proportions... but, it could be a monster cave, in which case that's cool too. I'm in this for the science, not trying to internet famous or a impact crater finder.You can bet I'm going to keep on it. It's fun.... and it's interesting.
Picture of sample here: here.
No rxn. That rock looks normal too.... shure... anything but heated and pressed.. amirite?
Nowhere, ever have I stated there is a central peak. Take long look at the GIS map and compare it to the Orthologocal image. Not only do they match but they do in fact show a rebound/shock ring that is unifrom across the floor of the crater/pipe. It's round. Two years ago everyone I. Spoke to told me I was crazy and it was square. Does it look sqaure to you???
They don't react with boiling hydrochloric either..
I've tested these with acid. If the sample won't react with boiling acid (nitric or sulfuric) why would it stand to reason they are carbonates reacting to rainwater?
By they way.. it's been in my family for 40 years, and the family before that for 50 years... And no one has dumped trash and burned stuff..It's been logged twice.
The first had a steam sawmill and cut the virgin timber around 1901. The second time was after a tornado and it was logged/chipped and then planted in pine trees. I know sinkholes. This is no sinkhole, and the evidence above is a great first/second step in bearing that out.
This is a crater and I'm gonna nail it even if it occurs in East Tennessee. Is there a law saying that meteorites don't hit limestone? Hardly.
I fully intend on getting thin sections done. The gravel IS angular. There are heavily deformed Ordovician Age rocks. Unfortunately, where this area is a Karst area. You can't pick up the feature and move it to an area that makes it easier. Is this a Karst feature? I doubt it very seriously. However thin sections for shocked quartz are next on the list. I appreciate the time you took to reply. No topsoil was never pushed into the middle of this feature. Yes, a road was cut in pushing regolith into one corner and making it look a lot squarer than it is. I know the full history behind the site going back over 120 years. There is rounded material i.e. (sand) in the soil around the crater at a microscopic level because the soil is 200+ million years old and already contained HEAVILY WEATHERED ancient rock..
The investigation continues. Thin samples of severely deformed rocks are next.
Thanks, and the evidence gathering continues. I understand the bar is high. This was an update on a topic allowed to languish too long. :)
Yeah a lot of sinkholes have astroblemes...
You can't argue with the rebound ring in da bottom. :0
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I guess it's time to upgrade from Me... is that even possible? I like Me. I feel like a failure.
Because nobody goes barefoot.
Than a nice MEATSHAKE...
Wait, maybe not..
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