How the heck do you get right-wing militia types out of a post on travelling?
I want nothing to do with guns, and don't own one.
Unfortunately that doesn't stop the criminals. But I digress.
Its considered bad nettiqute to attack a person, and not the discussion, which I see you didn't even attempt. I'm awaiting a civil and intelligent discussion.
> then the government built the roads, and where do you think the government got the funds to PAY for the roads? A. Gas taxes and tolls? Who pays those? The people USING the roads pay for the roads.
> so they make the rules. If you want to drive them, you follow them - you drive the speed limit, get a license plate, etc
Look, I travel i) WITHOUT a driver's license, and ii) WITHOUT my car being registered by the government / state (hence no state license plate.) and I have a) never got a ticket for driving without a license, or b) been given a ticket for speeding.
How come?
Because I'm exercising my Right To Travel. http://teaminfinity.com/~ralph/dl.html http://www.lvdi.net/~willys/travel.htm http://www.ironsoft.com/lp/driving.html http://aero.net/silver/Driving.htm
I have an Internationals Drivers Permit. Also, the state does NOT have the Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin for my car, so I am completely out of their jurisidiciton.
> You seem to have forgotten that Microsoft is private property
No, the oringal author is correct.
Who grants a business license? The owner or the government?
Corporations are a legal entity CREATED by the government. You can look it up in Black's Law Dictionary.
Corporations are popular because they protect the liability of the owner. Why do you think we have so many LLCs (Limited Liability Company) ?
And no, you DON'T need a business license to enage in free enterprise. How do you think people did business BEFORE companies existed? They used trusts. Why? Limitied Liability again.
> Adam Smith was quite correct in describing government as a "social contract" -- it is no different than any other contract that you enter into. if you don't like it, don't sign it.
I agree. Whatever rights we didn't give to the government, we keep.
But just try to tell people that you DON'T need a license and registration to travel in a car. (I don't have either and no law officer has ever given me a ticket for driving without a license.) See my post: "Speeding is not a crime" if you want proof that Travelling is a Right.
MS just has to set up another company, lets call it Microsoft Research, outside the US jurisdiction, which would hold the copyright to the source, and own 95% of the US company. It could then license the codebase back to MS, since the contract would be private between MS and MS Research.
Wouldn't really matter if MS is split up now would it? The only thing the Government could do is hassle the US based company, since that companies is a legal entity created by the government under the US jurisdiction.
Hey, someone actually read the links and posted a civil and interesting discussion! Thank-you! (Will miracles never cease on/. ?!;-)
Apparently that other guy never read the part in my orginal message: "I have never got a ticket for driving without a license" If I was breaking the law, i.e. driving without a license, then why didn't the law officer do anything? Oh wait, that guy flamed and never even bothered to read the links I posted.
You're absolutely right: There is NO law which states you MUST have a US drivers license to drive a car in the US.
Doesn't everyone know that "you must register your vehicle with the Department of Motor Vehicles" ? Oh wait, there is also NO law which states you MUST submit a car's MSO to the government/state?:-)
Its not about breaking the law, its verifying what the law REALLY says. i.e. why does the Declaration of Independence spell united States of America (uSA) with a small 'u' ane make the distinction from United States?
For all those considering of getting an IDP, remember that an International Drivers Permit is NOT valid in the place of issue, so don't go to AAA and get one.
Look, I travel WITHOUT a) a driver's license b) my car being registered with the government/state. and I have never got a ticket for driving without a license, or been given a ticket for speeding.
How come?
Because I'm exercising my Right To Travel. http://teaminfinity.com/~ralph/dl.html http://www.lvdi.net/~willys/travel.htm http://www.ironsoft.com/lp/driving.html http://aero.net/silver/Driving.htm
I have an Internationals Drivers Permit. Also the state doesn't have the Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin for my car, so I am completely out of their jurisidiciton.
I thought the best way to decide what OS to use, was to, use what works for you, instead of deciding from that you don't like how some people preach their OS religion.:-)
Thats why I use Linux, BeOS and NT. I need to do cross-platform development. (And occasionaly when I'm forced to use DirectX to play a few games that require it, that piece of crap called Windows 95)
Microsoft is LICENSED in the State of Washington. When you go to the government to ask for permission to engage in Free Enterprise you have to play by their rules. The GOVERNMENT granted them the BUSINESS LICENSE.
Question for the day: How did people do business before companies were around?
Answer: Usually themselves (and they were directly liable), or form a trust (why do you think we have anti-trust laws?)
> A lot of people were shocked when the Warsaw Pact, and even the USSR itself, collapsed shortly after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
I agree. You sort of paraphrased my point. a) At the time, people thought that Germany would NEVER be re-united. b) It didn't happen over night. It took time.
Sounds like exactly the same situtation Linux was in a year ago. a) Nobody thought Linux would ever over-take MS. (We still have a ways to go obviously) b) We're making progressing.
> Back to the point, I and many of my peers have essentially thrown MS products entirely off of our networks. Yeap. I use Linux and BeOS at home;-) And we use Groupwise at work.
> Some of the tools aren't bad, but they all are designed to only work well with other MS products unless MS is trying to enter a market dominated by others. On the servers, it's easy to mandate Unix/Sendmail/Oracle instead of NT/Exchange/SS, but the desktops are still a MS monopoly. For now. Things will really start looking great once KDE and GNOME both release ver 2.
> I think free & open software is the exact opposite of the old communist mindset... Yeah, I don't buy the Linux = Communism analogy either. I believe a better analogy would be: Communism (proprietary software) places power in the government (developer), not the people (users), which liberty (GPL) does.
Ok, enough politics and Linux;-)
Cheers
Moderators: How the heck can my post be labeled as 'flamebait' when I mention 'no flames' I thought I posted a civil and thought-provoking article?? (ok the crack about politics and sheep was off-topic, but still)
> And also, it's one of the things I really, really, really HATE about NT. No debugger comes with the OS, and there's no free, distributable one out there, so from a tech support standpoint, if your customer's server barfs, you kind of have to guess at what went wrong, or establish a pattern from multiple calls, or try to reproduce it in-house.
Yeah it sucks. The only solution that I'm aware of is to get your customer(s) to install MS Dev Studio, or even NuMega's SoftIce. Not very practical, but its better then nothing.
> The public will grow tired of the illusion sooner or later, its all a matter of time.
Unfortunately not. Take a look at politics. If that isn't proof that people are sheep, I don't know what is. i.e. Look at how many people fall for the "I promise to cut taxes if I get elected" line.
Getting back on topic...
The only thing we CAN do is to KEEP pushing for alternatives. [Us] Linux users are finally starting to recognize how the Mac users have felt all these past years. i.e. "I use an alternate OS [Linux,Be,etc], and we want support damit." (Except that we have stable OS in contrast to the MacOS. No Mac flames please.)
Eventually the Linux community will build up a large enough user base that simply can't be ignored. Sure, its a pain-in-the-butt now, but the more we show people the ADVANTAGES of open source, via PROPER advocacy instead of spouting off "DIE M$ DIE", the easier it will get in the future. We can fight half-baked ideas now, or wait and try to overcome against impossible odds the entrenched proprietary and defacto sub-standards that MS likes to use, in the future. The choice is ours TODAY.
i.e. We're finally starting to see more games on Linux. We're making great progress considering 2 years ago the only commercial game we had was Quake !
The freedoom (and price) is the strongest thing the open source community can use as ammonition. We have infinite ammo. With enough rounds, eventually what OS a person uses will become moot.
Sorry if I'm already "preaching to the choir."
Cheers
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The x86 instruction set is such as hack job its not even funny. Go take a look at some of the Motorola CPUs to see a nice orthogonal layout.
x86 can't die soon enough.
The problem is, does Intel have enough influence so that the massess will want a Itanium?
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How the heck do you get right-wing militia types out of a post on travelling?
I want nothing to do with guns, and don't own one.
Unfortunately that doesn't stop the criminals. But I digress.
Its considered bad nettiqute to attack a person, and not the discussion, which I see you didn't even attempt. I'm awaiting a civil and intelligent discussion.
Cheers
> then the government built the roads,
7 /vehiclecertorig.html
and where do you think the government got the funds to PAY for the roads?
A. Gas taxes and tolls? Who pays those? The people USING the roads pay for the roads.
> so they make the rules. If you want to drive them, you follow them - you drive the speed limit, get a license plate, etc
Look, I travel
i) WITHOUT a driver's license, and
ii) WITHOUT my car being registered by the government / state (hence no state license plate.)
and I have
a) never got a ticket for driving without a license, or
b) been given a ticket for speeding.
How come?
Because I'm exercising my Right To Travel.
http://teaminfinity.com/~ralph/dl.html
http://www.lvdi.net/~willys/travel.htm
http://www.ironsoft.com/lp/driving.html
http://aero.net/silver/Driving.htm
I have an Internationals Drivers Permit. Also, the state does NOT have the Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin for my car, so I am completely out of their jurisidiciton.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/441
You might want to check FACTS before spreading FUD.
Cheers
I've heard a few people use it, but it is getting rare.
> You seem to have forgotten that Microsoft is private property
No, the oringal author is correct.
Who grants a business license? The owner or the government?
Corporations are a legal entity CREATED by the government. You can look it up in Black's Law Dictionary.
Corporations are popular because they protect the liability of the owner. Why do you think we have so many LLCs (Limited Liability Company) ?
And no, you DON'T need a business license to enage in free enterprise. How do you think people did business BEFORE companies existed? They used trusts. Why? Limitied Liability again.
IANAL
Cheers
> You can't opt out of it. It is there.
Show me the law that REQUIRES a person to have a Social Security Number?
Here is one link that shows you can work WITHOUT one.
http://www.coolmedia.net/ice/tacobe~1.htm
You CAN revoke it. I have, and many other sovereigns have too.
http://www.noneusa.org/questions.html
"I am not a number, I am a free man."
- The Prisoner
Please do some research before spreading FUD.
Cheers
> Adam Smith was quite correct in describing government as a "social contract" -- it is no different than any other contract that you enter into. if you don't like it, don't sign it.
I agree. Whatever rights we didn't give to the government, we keep.
But just try to tell people that you DON'T need a license and registration to travel in a car. (I don't have either and no law officer has ever given me a ticket for driving without a license.) See my post: "Speeding is not a crime" if you want proof that Travelling is a Right.
Cheers
Read the original Declaration of Independence:
..."
"The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America"
and
"We, therefore the Representatives of the united States of America,
I didn't believe it either until I looked it up.
IANAL
Cheers
MS just has to set up another company, lets call it Microsoft Research, outside the US jurisdiction, which would hold the copyright to the source, and own 95% of the US company. It could then license the codebase back to MS, since the contract would be private between MS and MS Research.
Wouldn't really matter if MS is split up now would it? The only thing the Government could do is hassle the US based company, since that companies is a legal entity created by the government under the US jurisdiction.
IANAL.
Cheers
You know, now that you mention it, Microsoft certain does sound like a Ponzi scheme.
;-)
Would insurance fall under that category to?
Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Cheers
Hey, someone actually read the links and posted a civil and interesting discussion! Thank-you! (Will miracles never cease on /. ?! ;-)
:-)
Apparently that other guy never read the part in my orginal message:
"I have never got a ticket for driving without a license"
If I was breaking the law, i.e. driving without a license, then why didn't the law officer do anything? Oh wait, that guy flamed and never even bothered to read the links I posted.
You're absolutely right: There is NO law which states you MUST have a US drivers license to drive a car in the US.
Doesn't everyone know that "you must register your vehicle with the Department of Motor Vehicles" ?
Oh wait, there is also NO law which states you MUST submit a car's MSO to the government/state?
Its not about breaking the law, its verifying what the law REALLY says.
i.e. why does the Declaration of Independence spell united States of America (uSA) with a small 'u' ane make the distinction from United States?
For all those considering of getting an IDP, remember that an International Drivers Permit is NOT valid in the place of issue, so don't go to AAA and get one.
Cheers
> everybody should be in jail for speeding
7 /vehiclecertorig.html
Look, I travel WITHOUT
a) a driver's license
b) my car being registered with the government/state.
and I have never got a ticket for driving without a license, or been given a ticket for speeding.
How come?
Because I'm exercising my Right To Travel.
http://teaminfinity.com/~ralph/dl.html
http://www.lvdi.net/~willys/travel.htm
http://www.ironsoft.com/lp/driving.html
http://aero.net/silver/Driving.htm
I have an Internationals Drivers Permit.
Also the state doesn't have the Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin for my car, so I am completely out of their jurisidiciton.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/441
You might want to check FACTS before spewing myths.
Cheers
If you let the log grow unbounded, then yes.
Thats why the log is recycled in a circular buffer fashion.
Cheers
Someone had this cute sig on /.
"Linux renders a usefull ship, while NT renders ships useless"
Someone moderate the above post up, I allmost bust a gut laughing my ass off.
> MSFT has been willing to undercut the compeition because they know that an expanding market is better than short term profits.
Someone had an essay on why MS has to expand or die. Anyone have a link?
I agree that GUI's are more user friendly then a CLI, but there is still a paradigm that must be learned.
I've taught some students that have had a hard time with getting over the concept of nesting folders, simply because theier was no real world analogy.
What may be intuitive to you, may not be to someone else. Remember we're all ignorant in some field of study.
Cheers
I thought the best way to decide what OS to use, was to, use what works for you, instead of deciding from that you don't like how some people preach their OS religion. :-)
Thats why I use Linux, BeOS and NT. I need to do cross-platform development. (And occasionaly when I'm forced to use DirectX to play a few games that require it, that piece of crap called Windows 95)
Cheers
> MicroSoft doesn't innovate, they either buy out a competitor or they reimplement the technology, usually badly.
You forgot: "with an atttempt at vendor lock-in."
I find it interesting how M$ doesn't suffer from the NIH (Not Invented Here) Syndrome in contra distiction to Apple.
No flames please.
> Support free enterprise!
Microsoft is LICENSED in the State of Washington. When you go to the government to ask for permission to engage in Free Enterprise you have to play by their rules. The GOVERNMENT granted them the BUSINESS LICENSE.
Question for the day: How did people do business before companies were around?
Answer: Usually themselves (and they were directly liable), or form a trust (why do you think we have anti-trust laws?)
IANAL
Cheers
> A lot of people were shocked when the Warsaw Pact, and even the USSR itself, collapsed shortly after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
;-)
...
;-)
I agree. You sort of paraphrased my point.
a) At the time, people thought that Germany would NEVER be re-united.
b) It didn't happen over night. It took time.
Sounds like exactly the same situtation Linux was in a year ago.
a) Nobody thought Linux would ever over-take MS. (We still have a ways to go obviously)
b) We're making progressing.
> Back to the point, I and many of my peers have essentially thrown MS products entirely off of our networks.
Yeap. I use Linux and BeOS at home
And we use Groupwise at work.
> Some of the tools aren't bad, but they all are designed to only work well with other MS products unless MS is trying to enter a market dominated by others. On the servers, it's easy to mandate Unix/Sendmail/Oracle instead of NT/Exchange/SS, but the desktops are still a MS monopoly.
For now. Things will really start looking great once KDE and GNOME both release ver 2.
> I think free & open software is the exact opposite of the old communist mindset
Yeah, I don't buy the Linux = Communism analogy either. I believe a better analogy would be: Communism (proprietary software) places power in the government (developer), not the people (users), which liberty (GPL) does.
Ok, enough politics and Linux
Cheers
Moderators: How the heck can my post be labeled as 'flamebait' when I mention 'no flames' I thought I posted a civil and thought-provoking article?? (ok the crack about politics and sheep was off-topic, but still)
> And also, it's one of the things I really, really, really HATE about NT. No debugger comes with the OS, and there's no free, distributable one out there, so from a tech support standpoint, if your customer's server barfs, you kind of have to guess at what went wrong, or establish a pattern from multiple calls, or try to reproduce it in-house.
Yeah it sucks. The only solution that I'm aware of is to get your customer(s) to install MS Dev Studio, or even NuMega's SoftIce. Not very practical, but its better then nothing.
Cheers
> The public will grow tired of the illusion sooner or later, its all a matter of time.
Unfortunately not. Take a look at politics. If that isn't proof that people are sheep, I don't know what is.
i.e. Look at how many people fall for the "I promise to cut taxes if I get elected" line.
Getting back on topic...
The only thing we CAN do is to KEEP pushing for alternatives. [Us] Linux users are finally starting to recognize how the Mac users have felt all these past years. i.e. "I use an alternate OS [Linux,Be,etc], and we want support damit." (Except that we have stable OS in contrast to the MacOS. No Mac flames please.)
Eventually the Linux community will build up a large enough user base that simply can't be ignored. Sure, its a pain-in-the-butt now, but the more we show people the ADVANTAGES of open source, via PROPER advocacy instead of spouting off "DIE M$ DIE", the easier it will get in the future. We can fight half-baked ideas now, or wait and try to overcome against impossible odds the entrenched proprietary and defacto sub-standards that MS likes to use, in the future. The choice is ours TODAY.
i.e.
We're finally starting to see more games on Linux. We're making great progress considering 2 years ago the only commercial game we had was Quake !
The freedoom (and price) is the strongest thing the open source community can use as ammonition.
We have infinite ammo. With enough rounds, eventually what OS a person uses will become moot.
Sorry if I'm already "preaching to the choir."
Cheers
The x86 instruction set is such as hack job its not even funny. Go take a look at some of the Motorola CPUs to see a nice orthogonal layout.
x86 can't die soon enough.
The problem is, does Intel have enough influence so that the massess will want a Itanium?
Cheers
> What exactly is the big deal about speeds in the GHz? May be a mile stone, but it's only logical progression.
:-)
;-)
Because its a baby step to TeraHz computing.
Us graphics programmers can ALWAYS use the extra horsepower.
Imagine 4096x 4096 x 32 bit @ 120 Hz
(Which on a 17" monitor (16" viewable) is close to 300dpi! Hey, I can dream, right?
(yes I KNOW a gpu doesn't need to run as fast a cpu)
Cheers
> If someone is so stupid that they are incapable of understanding the mathematics of
> Value = Quantity * Price
The problem is, you can have:
a) low quanity and high value (rare items) AND,
b) high quanity and high value (the item has intrinsic value)
IANAE
Cheers