> Is it therefore possible to get one issued in a country other than my own, and then use it in the country where I am a citizen?
Yes.
I understand where you are coming from, as I didn't know about an International Driver's Permit until last year either.
Recently a law officer stopped me for speeding, and asked for my Driver's License and Registration. I just gave him my IDP. After seeing my IDP (since he had never seen one before), he asked me: Is this what you use?
I replied: Yes. The back has more info.
After spending a few minutes looking it over, he said: Just watch your speed.
Since he never gave me a ticket for driving without a license, that was proof enough for me that you DON'T need a driver's license to freely travel.
It's all about jurisdiction. The officer knew that I was out of his, hence no tickets (for speeding, or driving without a license.)
> Aren't those invalid in the country you're a citizen of?
You are thinking of these two stipulations (which can be found on the back): - Not valid in the country of issue. - Not valid for the transportation of persons or property for hire.
The full text, which is interesting to read, is as follows.
"Convention of International Road Traffic of 19 September, 1949
This Permit is issued under International Law and the Law of Nations. By signing this Permit, Holder described herein, Certifies that He/She has all the necessary skills to safely operate a motorized conveyance as required by law. This Permit Remains in force until revoked or suspended under due process of Law, or, supersceded by bona fide contracts and/or agreements with other States, countries, or entities. The Holder assumes full responsibility for any use and/or misuse of this Permit. It is understood that this Permit shall in no way effect the Holder to conform to the positive Laws and regulations in force within each state or country Holder travels.
This Permit may be present in over 200 contracting and independent countries. Some countries may require a special registration fee be paid in addition to the possession of this Permit. Consistent with international regulations, this Permit is Not valid in the country of issue.
Not valid for the transportation of persons or property for hire."
Even more interesting is the Manufacturer's Statement of Origin. Here are some links.
> with a devil in the details of ID cards, tax returns and pension contracts
Can you show me the law that REQUIRES me to have a social security number, or tax-payers number?
I'll save you some time. There is none.
You can live, work, etc without one.
I point you to the Taco Bell case. Search the net for "Taco Bell Social Security". Here is one link to get you started: http://www.coolmedia.net/ice/tacobe~1.htm
Our rights and freedoms are constantly being eroded as many people have pointed out.
Here is an interesting quote by Alexander Hamilton:
"I go further, and affirm that bills of rights are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerious. They would contain exceptions to powers which are not granted; and on this very account, would afford a colourable pretext to claim more then were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why for instance, should it be said, that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power."
This is the crux of the issue. Whatever rights we DON'T grant to the government, WE retain. But you certainly wouldn't know that from the way the government acts.
If you're curious WHY the first 10 amendments to the Bill of Rights were drawn up, you might be interested in reading:
> 5. Who programmed the 3D Hard Drivin' inspired games Stunts > 6. Who conceived and wrote the engines for the following popular racing games: The Need for Speed,
The Driving Team. Ah, the memories.
"Stunts", and "The Need for Speed" was developed by EA Canada.
I was lucky enough to work on the Need For Speed PSX port when I was a co-op student. (The first one back in 95/96)
Just a few of the names I remember off the top of my head...
Hanno - Producer Wei Teh - Lead programmer Brad Gour - track guru Dave Lucas - physics guy Daniel Teh - replay / interface
If I saw the team pic in the manual I could tell you who worked on what.
To bring this thread back on topic, as have you mentioned, it's a whole TEAM effort to get a great game out the door.
I don't remember Sweeney or Carmack wanting any of the lime light, instead they want to be "left alone" to do research and programm, but everyone keeps making them into "super-programmers-stars" (which no doubt about it, they ARE talented.)
To the contrary, they are some of the more publically modest programmers !
Michael Abrash has a good quote on game development, which Carmack has said as well: 99% perspiration, 1% inspiration.
Yes, using an offshore company to hold funds wasn't the problem. Some countries don't even tax foreign income.;-)
What the problem was, is UPS made the fatal flaw of owning the offshore company, which brought it back in under the jurisdiction of the United States.
The technical term is 'alter ego.' (Companies are a legal entity, which can be used in lieu of an individual.) See Blacks Law Dictionary for more info.
You are correct that tax-avoidance is not the same thing as tax-evasion.
Remember, what does the name IRS stand for?
Internal Revenue Service.
Doesn't it seem logical that one could legally be external ?
Here are two hints:
If you read the IRS tax form, you will see notice it says "These rules also apply to nonresident aliens and dual-status aliens who were married to U.S. Citizens or residents at the end of 1999 and who have elected to be taxed as resident aliens."
The Bill of Rights, Article XIV "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisidiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside."
Email me at mpohores@sfu.ca if you want more info.
It's not a philosohpical issue, it's one of practicality:
When (not if) you end up maintaining someone else's code, if the code has been written in a clean way, it can be a sure joy to work with. If not, you'll be cursing that programmer for eons. (Lets keep Microsoft's API out of this ok;-)
The REASON we want good clean code is so that _we CAN_ maintain it.
I have been in the position of looking at my own code 6 months, later, and gone "WTF?", and wasted lots of time trying to figure out just what the heck I did.
If I had just spent the extra time to begin with, later on I could of been more productive instead of wasting time re-engineering the damn thing.
Pay the piper up front and save time later, or be a "saving time" grinch, and find an expensive time bill later. Seems pretty obvious what "The Right Thing" to do is;-)
Work smarter, not harder =P
Cheers
BTW, Steve McConnel has a great book: Code Complete.
> It's really a shame that NT (largely neglected by the game industry)
I work as a game developer, and NT isn't largely neglected for development. Allmost all of my peers use NT.
Quake, Half Life, Diablo, Age of Empires, etc, all work under NT. Granted more games work under 95, but at least NT hasn't been completely ignored.
Why do most games NOT work under NT?
Part of the problem is that Direct3D is not hardware accelerated under NT, and DirectInput is, um, lagged, under NT. (The above games work, because they use, a) OpenGL, b) DirectDraw, c) waveout, d) or some combination of the Win32 API that works under NT.
The biggest problem is Microsoft. Even when people demonstrated that gaming under NT was important, ala by someone releasing the DirectX 5 hack for NT 4, MS _refused_ to even consider releasing anything over DX3 for NT. Allthough they did manage to sneak in DirectPlay6 with NT Service Pack 4 without telling anyone.
Microsoft is too busy milking their Win9X cash cow, ie. Windows 96 (aka Win95 OSR), Windows 98, Win 99 (aka Win98 SE.) They are finaly getting the picture, by including DX7 with NT5, er, Win2000. Yeah gaming options under NT suck, but petition your favorite game developer to please consider making their game work under NT4 and NT5.
> I think that once the artists/creator of a work of art is dead their property should enter the public domain.
Unfortunately this wouldn't work as everyone could become a 'corporate sole' i.e. a legal entity with perpuitity.
From the things that make you go hmmmm: Why is the Queen of England a corporate sole?
If you're interested, snag a copy of Black's Law Dictionary, and read what it has to say.
IANAL
Cheers
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> Something GIVEN has no value.
Tell that to all the teachers that GIVE their time and knowledge to all the students they teach, then tell me that has no value to the students.
Gifts DO have value.
Good post though.
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He never mentioned Allodial Title, or removing property rights.
What he was getting at, was people have more rights then corporations. Companies are a legal entity. Where do they get those rights from? The government via a Business License. Where does the government get its rights from? The people.
IANAL
Cheers
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> If you take that right away from corporations, you also take it away from individuals,
Not true.
Corporations ARE legal entities (check Black's Law Dictionary.) They are GIVEN rights when they are created by the government/state. (If you don't believe companies/corporations are created by a government, then what is a Business License and what is the jurisdiction it is valid in?)
People create a Government which create companies.
Like you said, 'bout 1/2 of the moderators are spot on, and the other 1/2 have flamebait,troll attached to a good thought-provoking comment.
Moderators: Just because you don't personally believe what someone is saying, doesn't mean that person is incapable of having a good comment. READ the post, then before making a snap judgement, critically analyze if the post added anything to the discussion. And if a post "shoots the messanger but not the message", i.e. a person makes personal attacks instead of a civil debate, THEN mark them down.
> Its sorta like asking a layman to tell you when the plane somebody else just built has just enough functionality to fly... if I were you I'd ask the engineer if he'd climb aboard himself.
Nice analogy.
Moderators, why the heck was this post moderated down as flamebait. He didn't flame anyone, and had something interesting to say, unlike those "First Posts"
Technically, the NT/2K GUI is NOT part of the OS. In practicality it is.
Why?
Because with ERD you can boot to a native NT command line. http://www.sysinternals.com/erdcmndr.htm
But I don't see too many apps using the native NT API. I'm NOT talking about the Win32 API which sits on TOP of the native NT API. If you've have ever done any NT device driver work, you'll know what I mean. Surf on over here for more info: http://www.sysinternals.com/ntdll.htm
A Driver's License is ONLY valid in the place it is issued. An International Drivers Permit is NOT valid in the place it is issued.
They are NOT the same thing !
Here, I'll include the text on the back of my IDP for you, since you seem to be confused.
"Convention on Internation Road Traffic of 19 September, 1949
This Permit is issued under International Law and the Law of Nations. By signing this Permit, Holder described herein, Certifies that He/She has all the necessary skills to safely operate a motorized conveyance as required by law.
This Permit may be presented in over 200 contracting and independent countries. Some countries may require a special registration fee be paid in addition to the possession of this Permit. Consistent with international regulations, this Permit is Not valid in the country of issue."
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> Is it therefore possible to get one issued in a country other than my own, and then use it in the country where I am a citizen?
Yes.
I understand where you are coming from, as I didn't know about an International Driver's Permit until last year either.
Recently a law officer stopped me for speeding, and asked for my Driver's License and Registration. I just gave him my IDP. After seeing my IDP (since he had never seen one before), he asked me: Is this what you use?
I replied: Yes. The back has more info.
After spending a few minutes looking it over, he said: Just watch your speed.
Since he never gave me a ticket for driving without a license, that was proof enough for me that you DON'T need a driver's license to freely travel.
It's all about jurisdiction. The officer knew that I was out of his, hence no tickets (for speeding, or driving without a license.)
Cheers
> Aren't those invalid in the country you're a citizen of?
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You are thinking of these two stipulations (which can be found on the back):
- Not valid in the country of issue.
- Not valid for the transportation of persons or property for hire.
The full text, which is interesting to read, is as follows.
"Convention of International Road Traffic of 19 September, 1949
This Permit is issued under International Law and the Law of Nations. By signing this Permit, Holder described herein, Certifies that He/She has all the necessary skills to safely operate a motorized conveyance as required by law. This Permit Remains in force until revoked or suspended under due process of Law, or, supersceded by bona fide contracts and/or agreements with other States, countries, or entities. The Holder assumes full responsibility for any use and/or misuse of this Permit. It is understood that this Permit shall in no way effect the Holder to conform to the positive Laws and regulations in force within each state or country Holder travels.
This Permit may be present in over 200 contracting and independent countries. Some countries may require a special registration fee be paid in addition to the possession of this Permit. Consistent with international regulations, this Permit is Not valid in the country of issue.
Not valid for the transportation of persons or property for hire."
Even more interesting is the Manufacturer's Statement of Origin. Here are some links.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/441
http://teaminfinity.com/~ralph/dl.html
http://www.ironsoft.com/lp/driving.html
http://aero.net/silver/Driving.htm
Cheers
Anyone remember that old Apple ][ program (came on a Beagle Bros disk), that would:
h uga--Chuga-Chuga-Chuga.
;-)
Alternatively start and stop the 2 floppy disk drives, eventually decreasing the time before switching to the other drive.
It sounded exactly like Chuga----Chuga----Chuga---Chuga---Chuga--Chuga--C
The only thing it missed was the train whistle
One of the funniest (and most useless) hacks around.
Cheers
I dealt with this problem on my last job.
When the [boss] asks you "How long will it take to get this project finished", factor in the time to write the code properly.
You're the person doing the job, and if you won't take a stand, who else will?
> You cannot drive now without one.
International Driver's Permit. Valid in over 200 countries. ( I have one. )
> You cannot get a job without one
I work as a contractor, not as an employee.
Yes it IS possible to live, work w/o a SSN.
> It is the landlord's property, not yours.
Unless the landlord has Allodial Title, it is actually the government's.
Check Black's Law Dictionary if you want more info.
IANAL
Cheers
> with a devil in the details of ID cards, tax returns and pension contracts
Can you show me the law that REQUIRES me to have a social security number, or tax-payers number?
I'll save you some time. There is none.
You can live, work, etc without one.
I point you to the Taco Bell case. Search the net for "Taco Bell Social Security".
Here is one link to get you started:
http://www.coolmedia.net/ice/tacobe~1.htm
Cheers
Our rights and freedoms are constantly being eroded as many people have pointed out.
7 8/qid=943449088/sr=1-1/002-3380448-1130666
Here is an interesting quote by Alexander Hamilton:
"I go further, and affirm that bills of rights are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerious. They would contain exceptions to powers which are not granted; and on this very account, would afford a colourable pretext to claim more then were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why for instance, should it be said, that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power."
This is the crux of the issue. Whatever rights we DON'T grant to the government, WE retain. But you certainly wouldn't know that from the way the government acts.
If you're curious WHY the first 10 amendments to the Bill of Rights were drawn up, you might be interested in reading:
The Rape of the American Constitution
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/15595012
IANAL
Cheers
> 5. Who programmed the 3D Hard Drivin' inspired games Stunts
> 6. Who conceived and wrote the engines for the following popular racing games: The Need for Speed,
The Driving Team. Ah, the memories.
"Stunts", and "The Need for Speed" was developed by EA Canada.
I was lucky enough to work on the Need For Speed PSX port when I was a co-op student. (The first one back in 95/96)
Just a few of the names I remember off the top of my head...
Hanno - Producer
Wei Teh - Lead programmer
Brad Gour - track guru
Dave Lucas - physics guy
Daniel Teh - replay / interface
If I saw the team pic in the manual I could tell you who worked on what.
To bring this thread back on topic, as have you mentioned, it's a whole TEAM effort to get a great game out the door.
I don't remember Sweeney or Carmack wanting any of the lime light, instead they want to be "left alone" to do research and programm, but everyone keeps making them into "super-programmers-stars" (which no doubt about it, they ARE talented.)
To the contrary, they are some of the more publically modest programmers !
Michael Abrash has a good quote on game development, which Carmack has said as well: 99% perspiration, 1% inspiration.
Seems to sum it up.
IAAGD (I am a game developer)
Cheers
> I really don't know why so many people think that corporations are physical entities
They aren't. Corporations are just a legal entity.
If anyone says otherwise, ask them to look up "corporation" in Black's Law Dictionary.
IANAL
Cheers
Yes, using an offshore company to hold funds wasn't the problem. Some countries don't even tax foreign income. ;-)
What the problem was, is UPS made the fatal flaw of owning the offshore company, which brought it back in under the jurisdiction of the United States.
The technical term is 'alter ego.' (Companies are a legal entity, which can be used in lieu of an individual.) See Blacks Law Dictionary for more info.
You are correct that tax-avoidance is not the same thing as tax-evasion.
Remember, what does the name IRS stand for?
Internal Revenue Service.
Doesn't it seem logical that one could legally be external ?
Here are two hints:
If you read the IRS tax form, you will see notice it says "These rules also apply to nonresident aliens and dual-status aliens who were married to U.S. Citizens or residents at the end of 1999 and who have elected to be taxed as resident aliens."
The Bill of Rights, Article XIV
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisidiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside."
Email me at mpohores@sfu.ca if you want more info.
IANAL
Cheers
It's not a philosohpical issue, it's one of practicality:
;-)
;-)
When (not if) you end up maintaining someone else's code, if the code has been written in a clean way, it can be a sure joy to work with. If not, you'll be cursing that programmer for eons.
(Lets keep Microsoft's API out of this ok
The REASON we want good clean code is so that _we CAN_ maintain it.
I have been in the position of looking at my own code 6 months, later, and gone "WTF?", and wasted lots of time trying to figure out just what the heck I did.
If I had just spent the extra time to begin with, later on I could of been more productive instead of wasting time re-engineering the damn thing.
Pay the piper up front and save time later, or be a "saving time" grinch, and find an expensive time bill later. Seems pretty obvious what "The Right Thing" to do is
Work smarter, not harder =P
Cheers
BTW, Steve McConnel has a great book: Code Complete.
> It's really a shame that NT (largely neglected by the game industry)
I work as a game developer, and NT isn't largely neglected for development. Allmost all of my peers use NT.
Quake, Half Life, Diablo, Age of Empires, etc, all work under NT. Granted more games work under 95, but at least NT hasn't been completely ignored.
Why do most games NOT work under NT?
Part of the problem is that Direct3D is not hardware accelerated under NT, and DirectInput is, um, lagged, under NT. (The above games work, because they use, a) OpenGL, b) DirectDraw, c) waveout, d) or some combination of the Win32 API that works under NT.
The biggest problem is Microsoft. Even when people demonstrated that gaming under NT was important, ala by someone releasing the DirectX 5 hack for NT 4, MS _refused_ to even consider releasing anything over DX3 for NT. Allthough they did manage to sneak in DirectPlay6 with NT Service Pack 4 without telling anyone.
Microsoft is too busy milking their Win9X cash cow, ie. Windows 96 (aka Win95 OSR), Windows 98, Win 99 (aka Win98 SE.) They are finaly getting the picture, by including DX7 with NT5, er, Win2000. Yeah gaming options under NT suck, but petition your favorite game developer to please consider making their game work under NT4 and NT5.
For more info on gaming under NT, check out:
http://ntgamepalace.3dfiles.com/
Cheers
> I think that once the artists/creator of a work of art is dead their property should enter the public domain.
Unfortunately this wouldn't work as everyone could become a 'corporate sole' i.e. a legal entity with perpuitity.
From the things that make you go hmmmm:
Why is the Queen of England a corporate sole?
If you're interested, snag a copy of Black's Law Dictionary, and read what it has to say.
IANAL
Cheers
> Something GIVEN has no value.
Tell that to all the teachers that GIVE their time and knowledge to all the students they teach, then tell me that has no value to the students.
Gifts DO have value.
Good post though.
He never mentioned Allodial Title, or removing property rights.
What he was getting at, was people have more rights then corporations. Companies are a legal entity. Where do they get those rights from? The government via a Business License. Where does the government get its rights from? The people.
IANAL
Cheers
> If you take that right away from corporations, you also take it away from individuals,
Not true.
Corporations ARE legal entities (check Black's Law Dictionary.) They are GIVEN rights when they are created by the government/state. (If you don't believe companies/corporations are created by a government, then what is a Business License and what is the jurisdiction it is valid in?)
People create a Government which create companies.
Who has the most rights? Who has the least?
IANAL
Cheers
Windows NT Server 4.0 beat out NetWare 5, Solaris 2.6, and Linux (where is BSD?)
http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/index.html
Mindcrust benched them, so it MUST be true. Yeah, right. Does anyone else find this is a little suspicious that NT beats all 3 platforms?
JMP FFFF:0000 Jump to BIOS Reset.
;-)
Sad, I still have the opcodes memorized.
Yeah, I don't know what gives either.
Like you said, 'bout 1/2 of the moderators are spot on, and the other 1/2 have flamebait,troll attached to a good thought-provoking comment.
Moderators: Just because you don't personally believe what someone is saying, doesn't mean that person is incapable of having a good comment. READ the post, then before making a snap judgement, critically analyze if the post added anything to the discussion. And if a post "shoots the messanger but not the message", i.e. a person makes personal attacks instead of a civil debate, THEN mark them down.
Watch this post get moderated down. =P
It's kind of hard to illegaly copy free software ;-)
Moderators, please mark the above post as insightfull.
Aside, if business were really concerned about Piracy, they would list it as an offical loss of income on their Financial Statements.
> Its sorta like asking a layman to tell you when the plane somebody else just built has just enough functionality to fly... if I were you I'd ask the engineer if he'd climb aboard himself.
Nice analogy.
Moderators, why the heck was this post moderated down as flamebait. He didn't flame anyone, and had something interesting to say, unlike those "First Posts"
> but memory management was required
> (and therefore MS DOS isnt an OS in that defitition).
Not True.
Proof:
http://www.ctyme.com/intr/rb-2965.htm
http://www.ctyme.com/intr/rb-2891.htm
Therefore DOS _IS_ an OS.
Technically, the NT/2K GUI is NOT part of the OS.
In practicality it is.
Why?
Because with ERD you can boot to a native NT command line.
http://www.sysinternals.com/erdcmndr.htm
But I don't see too many apps using the native NT API. I'm NOT talking about the Win32 API which sits on TOP of the native NT API. If you've have ever done any NT device driver work, you'll know what I mean. Surf on over here for more info:
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntdll.htm
Cheers
A Driver's License is ONLY valid in the place it is issued. An International Drivers Permit is NOT valid in the place it is issued.
They are NOT the same thing !
Here, I'll include the text on the back of my IDP for you, since you seem to be confused.
"Convention on Internation Road Traffic of 19 September, 1949
This Permit is issued under International Law and the Law of Nations. By signing this Permit, Holder described herein, Certifies that He/She has all the necessary skills to safely operate a motorized conveyance as required by law.
This Permit may be presented in over 200 contracting and independent countries. Some countries may require a special registration fee be paid in addition to the possession of this Permit. Consistent with international regulations, this Permit is Not valid in the country of issue."
Like I said, check your FACTS.
Cheers