I never said it can't be broken (rather the opposite, hence: "You will be able to copy applications even though they use an application store? No shit!")
All I said was that root won't make the data "yours" so to speak. The DRM don't necessary automatically break down because you're root (or maybe it does if you have full software and hardware access, does any system with a root user try to protect some memory areas or what not against the root user? Such as reading a key from hardware and try to disallow memory access to the key area, where the key may eventually be read from say the pins of the chip instead or by removing this limited access by manipulating some areas which aren't locked down?) but probably requires more work than "play this song dammit for I'm root and you shall obey me!"(which in the end will be the result anyhow:D)
My first thought was "so what? What says the writer of the article agrees with the leaders of the country in general?", but then I saw that it was the paper of the communist party. And yeah, those are probably the people who want to lock down the Internet. Not "the country."
Though I do understand it was mostly written to be funny and may not correlate much.
Also I managed to post as AC losing all my precious moderation points for these awesome tunes;/ (Or maybe it just saved me from evil off-topic post moderations? Damn hip-hoping youths!)
That means you won't be able to use the LaunchPad and 1-Click Updates. Wouldn't that tend to make your program less attractive
No, because the LaunchPad sounds like a crappy idea.
Sure it may be nice to have all your appstore applications in one location, especially if you get many.
But seriously who would like to have all their applications on the desktop and look around for the correct one? Or visit the application folder on a mac to find and start the application one want?
One rather just press ctrl-space and type the beginning of the name of the application and press enter once spotlight or quicksilver has found the right application.
As far as updates goes I think there already is one service which help applications provide that? (Not update all applications but search for updates), regardless no biggie if the application in question looks for updates by itself once started. Opera does. Some may have you do the searching manually or keep track yourself but being a pirate such as myself I don't necessary see that as a disadvantage.
If users have root the app store is not secure from users copying applications around and messing with their data.
You will be able to copy applications even though they use an application store?
No shit!
Or well, I don't really get your point. * Is it that (you think) root access beat all DRM? * Is it that you think you need root access/poke around yourself to be able to have a backup in case of an emergency? * Is it that you think root access is the equivalent of being open?
"Apple To Remove Java from Mac OS X? Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Oct 2010 09:13 CET After the news that the new MacBook Airs do not ship with Flash pre-installed (which is news considering Flash has been part of Mac OS X for a very long time), we now have news that Apple is also taking what appears to be the first steps towards removing Apple's own Java runtime from Mac OS X.
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Apple knows better than you do what you really want to do and use your computer/gadgets for. Enjoy.
I assume you can install Flash and an old version of their JRE yourself. And I guess Oracle will want to provide a JRE of their own.
No I didn't! Is there a new kernel release:D? Where? Where?
Also: I can turn off the Apple distortion field and "omg it's good because it's Apple"! iCrap this, iCrap that? life-wide? Where?
Maybe that's what Apple really mean with iLife? =P, the Apple way of life, personal force field included.
Nah, I like Apple. It's "UNIX" with commercial apps, builtin color calibration and smart fond rendering. The rest not so much:) (is it hard/possible to get the second in say KDE/X11?)
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Here in Sweden plenty of people did that, but there was a TV documentary just a week or so ago about how the ISPs told people it didn't mattered whatever they used WEP or WPA so that's how they decided what to have... Awesome.
I'm not American, but you're AC so you won't see that..
Yeah, the US seem to have a great track record as far as supporting both sides / love one day hate the other just at different times:D
Are they needed in Iraq, Afghanistan and such? I have no idea. If they are would they also be needed in kinda everywhere in Africa and such (Israel, Pakistan?) Probably. But maybe it's mostly for their own profit and gains. Though one could assume the WTC reprisals got very costly... (That's the reason for the war from the beginning isn't it?)
With good I mostly meant that it's easy to see them as the only ones who really want to go in and take some shit / do something. Though maybe others would to if there was a valid reason. Anyhow I don't want to hate too much on/. since there's so many Americans there:)
Do me a fucking solid favor. Go find the largest object you can imagine shoving up your ass, and then sit on it. Because it's a good primer on what the next thirty years is going to be like for you.
My brain will be obsolete when one can implant a chip in it.
Who's right? Just poking in a M68k or "implanting" a 5.56mm NATO in there with no connections doesn't count:D. Though the later is sure to make my brain obsolete:D
For example, is a 5830 better than a 5770 or 4870?
Probably.
Stupid guesses: 58xx > 48xx from generation alone. 57xx probably more limited chip or something else (different memory?) than 58xx. xx30 lower end than xx70 of the same chip.
Or something, wikipedia most likely tell?
Facts: HD4870: 750/900 clock, 800:40:16 unified shaders, texture mapping units, render output units, 256 bit GDDR5. HD5770: 850/1200 clock, 800:40:16, 128 bit GDDR5. HD5830: 800/1000 clock, 1120:56:16, 256 bit GDDR5.
X7XX on both seem to be 128 bit memory. X8XX 256 bit 48XX X2 2x256 X9XX 2x256 bit
Fairly obvious the 5830 was much better than the 5770 even though it's got low clock rate (5870 got 850/1200 just as the 5770.) 4870 vs 5770 not so obvious. Do they have the same chip to or what? Guess the 4870 may be nicer. Just overclock it if it's not;)
But those people don't buy the top-of-the-line cards...:D
Maybe it's nothing more complicated than that people already know the GTX 460 offers more, so if they want to compete new model numbers is there it's at unless they can release a better card =P
Though they should be used to it after getting owned by the TNT, TNT2, GeForce, GF2, GF3, GF4, GF6, GF7, GF 8, GTX 200 (?), GTX 400,..
FX5000 series and maybe the 4870(X2) being exceptions?
But their cards supposed to consume less electricity?
Poor AMD/ATI, and when they finally had a lead thanks to Nvidia&3DFX screw up they released shitty drivers instead to make up for it;)
Yeah, because environmental friendly production of environmental friendly products don't make any sense!
Maybe you should had spent your 515 billion $ military budget* and QE2 and POMO dollars on something else. Not saying it wont work, I'm no economy guy. But what if it doesn't? I can understand how paying of debt (or interest) limits economic growth.
So China actually support and subsidize their green energy industry? Boho!! That no capitalism! How could they? Damn socialists!
Stop whining and do something yourself, also do people really need to export everything they may have better use for themselves? I don't see us (Sweden) exporting any Uranium. And we subsidize green technology (maybe not the companies and exporters, but the consumers, the former actually got the benefit of benefiting everyone (if it makes prices go down and production to go up) instead of just fellow Swedes.)
But if there really is a problem and it's not allowed I can see how they totally failed regarding "certain Chinese trade practices.":D
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I never said it can't be broken (rather the opposite, hence: "You will be able to copy applications even though they use an application store? No shit!")
All I said was that root won't make the data "yours" so to speak. The DRM don't necessary automatically break down because you're root (or maybe it does if you have full software and hardware access, does any system with a root user try to protect some memory areas or what not against the root user? Such as reading a key from hardware and try to disallow memory access to the key area, where the key may eventually be read from say the pins of the chip instead or by removing this limited access by manipulating some areas which aren't locked down?) but probably requires more work than "play this song dammit for I'm root and you shall obey me!"(which in the end will be the result anyhow :D)
A country?
My first thought was "so what? What says the writer of the article agrees with the leaders of the country in general?", but then I saw that it was the paper of the communist party. And yeah, those are probably the people who want to lock down the Internet. Not "the country."
Though I do understand it was mostly written to be funny and may not correlate much.
Damnit, the last one was just half, sorry for that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=behMWaaN4CQ
Also I managed to post as AC losing all my precious moderation points for these awesome tunes ;/ (Or maybe it just saved me from evil off-topic post moderations? Damn hip-hoping youths!)
That means you won't be able to use the LaunchPad and 1-Click Updates. Wouldn't that tend to make your program less attractive
No, because the LaunchPad sounds like a crappy idea.
Sure it may be nice to have all your appstore applications in one location, especially if you get many.
But seriously who would like to have all their applications on the desktop and look around for the correct one? Or visit the application folder on a mac to find and start the application one want?
One rather just press ctrl-space and type the beginning of the name of the application and press enter once spotlight or quicksilver has found the right application.
As far as updates goes I think there already is one service which help applications provide that? (Not update all applications but search for updates), regardless no biggie if the application in question looks for updates by itself once started. Opera does. Some may have you do the searching manually or keep track yourself but being a pirate such as myself I don't necessary see that as a disadvantage.
Of course it won't happen. Will be interesting to see how many large apps shows up in it though.
Is it worth only getting 70% of the money for the extra market presence?
Wouldn't surprise me if it actually is. Though they will probably still hate it to give that much money to Apple. And maybe prices will get lower to?
Mac
... was never open.
If users have root the app store is not secure from users copying applications around and messing with their data.
You will be able to copy applications even though they use an application store?
No shit!
Or well, I don't really get your point.
* Is it that (you think) root access beat all DRM?
* Is it that you think you need root access/poke around yourself to be able to have a backup in case of an emergency?
* Is it that you think root access is the equivalent of being open?
A lunar station. Without black-jack and hookers? Something's fishy here.
Miners trapped in mine collapse on the moon...
So what? In space no-one would hear them scream.
Mercury, gold, silver, ..
More _REAL_ news:
" Apple To Remove Java from Mac OS X?
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Oct 2010 09:13 CET
After the news that the new MacBook Airs do not ship with Flash pre-installed (which is news considering Flash has been part of Mac OS X for a very long time), we now have news that Apple is also taking what appears to be the first steps towards removing Apple's own Java runtime from Mac OS X.
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Apple knows better than you do what you really want to do and use your computer/gadgets for. Enjoy.
I assume you can install Flash and an old version of their JRE yourself. And I guess Oracle will want to provide a JRE of their own.
No I didn't! Is there a new kernel release :D? Where? Where?
Also: I can turn off the Apple distortion field and "omg it's good because it's Apple"! iCrap this, iCrap that? life-wide? Where?
Maybe that's what Apple really mean with iLife? =P, the Apple way of life, personal force field included.
Nah, I like Apple. It's "UNIX" with commercial apps, builtin color calibration and smart fond rendering. The rest not so much :) (is it hard/possible to get the second in say KDE/X11?)
Your cozy /. feeling was sponsored by Aliquis karma.
Here in Sweden plenty of people did that, but there was a TV documentary just a week or so ago about how the ISPs told people it didn't mattered whatever they used WEP or WPA so that's how they decided what to have ... Awesome.
Good people at those positions.
I'm not American, but you're AC so you won't see that ..
Yeah, the US seem to have a great track record as far as supporting both sides / love one day hate the other just at different times :D
Are they needed in Iraq, Afghanistan and such? I have no idea. If they are would they also be needed in kinda everywhere in Africa and such (Israel, Pakistan?) Probably. But maybe it's mostly for their own profit and gains. Though one could assume the WTC reprisals got very costly ... (That's the reason for the war from the beginning isn't it?)
With good I mostly meant that it's easy to see them as the only ones who really want to go in and take some shit / do something. Though maybe others would to if there was a valid reason. Anyhow I don't want to hate too much on /. since there's so many Americans there :)
That was the impression I had. Or atleast that it wasn't better :)
I said FX5000 being exception stupid.
Funny how you get moderated for being stupid though.
And it wasn't that much ATI owning Nvidia as Nvidia (3Dfx) screwing up.
Do me a fucking solid favor. Go find the largest object you can imagine shoving up your ass, and then sit on it. Because it's a good primer on what the next thirty years is going to be like for you.
Sweet!
(Or well, everything got their limits... :D)
Can the hardware play 1080p video without needing a noisy fan? How low power is "low-power"?
Shouldn't anything new?
From the comments it looks like they said 5 cards, not 5 generations? 2 generations?
And they did the same (or for three?) with the low-end GF4s didn't they?
That didn't mean ATI got better cards than the TIs though.
My brain will be obsolete when one can implant a chip in it.
Who's right? Just poking in a M68k or "implanting" a 5.56mm NATO in there with no connections doesn't count :D. Though the later is sure to make my brain obsolete :D
For example, is a 5830 better than a 5770 or 4870?
Probably.
Stupid guesses:
58xx > 48xx from generation alone.
57xx probably more limited chip or something else (different memory?) than 58xx.
xx30 lower end than xx70 of the same chip.
Or something, wikipedia most likely tell?
Facts:
HD4870: 750/900 clock, 800:40:16 unified shaders, texture mapping units, render output units, 256 bit GDDR5.
HD5770: 850/1200 clock, 800:40:16, 128 bit GDDR5.
HD5830: 800/1000 clock, 1120:56:16, 256 bit GDDR5.
X7XX on both seem to be 128 bit memory.
X8XX 256 bit
48XX X2 2x256
X9XX 2x256 bit
Fairly obvious the 5830 was much better than the 5770 even though it's got low clock rate (5870 got 850/1200 just as the 5770.) ;)
4870 vs 5770 not so obvious. Do they have the same chip to or what? Guess the 4870 may be nicer. Just overclock it if it's not
I frankly can't tell you if a 9600Gt beats a GT210 or the other way around
I assume it does. What about a HD4250 vs HD 3650?
Hard to see the difference =P, though yeah, LE, GT, GTX, GTS, ... may seem weird, 30, 50 and 70 is rather obvious.
But those people don't buy the top-of-the-line cards ... :D
Maybe it's nothing more complicated than that people already know the GTX 460 offers more, so if they want to compete new model numbers is there it's at unless they can release a better card =P
Though they should be used to it after getting owned by the TNT, TNT2, GeForce, GF2, GF3, GF4, GF6, GF7, GF 8, GTX 200 (?), GTX 400, ..
FX5000 series and maybe the 4870(X2) being exceptions?
But their cards supposed to consume less electricity?
Poor AMD/ATI, and when they finally had a lead thanks to Nvidia&3DFX screw up they released shitty drivers instead to make up for it ;)
Yeah, because environmental friendly production of environmental friendly products don't make any sense!
Maybe you should had spent your 515 billion $ military budget* and QE2 and POMO dollars on something else. Not saying it wont work, I'm no economy guy. But what if it doesn't? I can understand how paying of debt (or interest) limits economic growth.
(* But it's good that your military exist.)
So China actually support and subsidize their green energy industry? Boho!! That no capitalism! How could they? Damn socialists!
Stop whining and do something yourself, also do people really need to export everything they may have better use for themselves? I don't see us (Sweden) exporting any Uranium. And we subsidize green technology (maybe not the companies and exporters, but the consumers, the former actually got the benefit of benefiting everyone (if it makes prices go down and production to go up) instead of just fellow Swedes.)
But if there really is a problem and it's not allowed I can see how they totally failed regarding "certain Chinese trade practices." :D
I've actually wondered about this while using antibiotics before. Seems weird and stupid.