If it iPhone was open and I could buy it without a subscription for a normal price it would had been an awesome product. I was talking Apple in general, they always seem to miss out on some things and they aren't to good at listening to their consumers ideas, or even accept people spreading the word about any flaws whatsoever.
Sorry, I live in Sweden, over here all phones use SIM cards with the difference of NMT = analog, GSM = second gen digital, 3G = higher bitrate and support for things like video calls.
If you look at Constantines answer I guess we have GSM and UMTS, we don't have CDMA, or something like that.
So I guess over here its: 1G = NMT 2G = GSM 3G = UMTS Or something such.
If the iPhone 3G was a Microsoft product and they have missed to add the second cam releasing yet another model for people to buy just to get it headline would read something like:
"Microsoft finally admit and somewhat fix their poor excuse for a 3G phone.", with additional "haha" tags and what not.
Not sure how much longer they can keep up the 80%-fashion/20%-function blend across an entire product line, especially in this economy.
Yeah, the user interfaces are good and the case designs is ok to (though they mess up to, toilet lid iBook? iPod Nano fat?)
But I could had designed the hardware specs and help them improve the software functionality much better than whatever people do it now.
iChat don't do MSN. Webcam don't work with ICQ or something such, file transfer may not be supported over Jabber, multiple contact lists for each protocol is retarded.
iTunes have very limited format support and as far as I know you can't let it synchronize the content of a directory without letting it manage a complete library.
iPhoto don't do adjustments as good as aperture or lightroom and they don't work good with each other / list the adjusted photos of the later ones in iPhoto. It's good enough for browsing saved photos but that's about it.
iLife and iWork would probably do better with a manual.
Mail don't want to check mails for spam before I open the mails (over IMAP) which is kinda useless because if I have opened the mail then I'll already know if it's spam or not.. Also it's not very good at figuring out what is spam or not.
I asked the guy in the store if the metal one was metal all the way but he said it was only on the tip, which sounded weird. But the cable with metal tips was quite expensive and all I wanted was an adapter anyway. And I guess even if there is 0.2 mm of metal around the plastic fibre it will break quite easily anyway or atleast bend. Still better than plastic though. I may order 20 or so from that store someone else suggested. Crappy design by Apple in any case, though I know you / other mac people never agrees but who gives a shit, they are retards.
Yeah, the one which snapped for me got stuck in the MBP to, I pulled out the fibre and put a screw into the hole of the plastic and managed to pull it out. Would had got so fucking upset if I couldn't get it out of there thanks to Apples retardness.
There are plenty of space left on the sides, and even more so on the back.
Using it analogue wouldn't had been so bad if it wasn't that the analog audio quality suck. Also what's up with no mic input on any macs?..
Just because you CAN do video calls you don't have to. And yes, I already know much people don't request this feature or care (except deaf people), but it's still more or less the definition of a 3G phone for me.
Maybe it's just that USA have got 3G so late? When did they start getting it? Because yes, Nokia and Sony-Ericsson have done dual-cam 3G phones for years. I can't imagine how you can do a 3G phone with just one cam. It's like "oh, look, we replaced the antenna!"
The market thing, atleast over here in Europe, of 3G has always been being able to do video-calls, which most people haven't cared much about but anyway.
I guess the other benefit is higher data-rates which may be what Apple was after but I don't think many people use their phones for data and the much worse coverage of 3G vs GSM + bigger phones + worse battery life makes people see 3G as a disadvantage instead.
The only people I know preferring 3G is deaf people since it's the only device which let them contact each other (except webcam then, but they don't have that with them all the time..)
Ah, I see. Yeah I know Airfoil exist but I didn't knew about this issue, that suck:(
I have a Macbook Pro and when I finally found mini-toslink to toslink adapters it took 3 days before it broke because I moved the computer and the cable got somewhat stuck.
Got a new one but two days later I stepped on the cable and it got broken again >
Fucking retarded to use mini-toslink but it's expected from Apple, I'll never buy any Apple hardware again. Why couldn't they just use an additional connector and real toslink instead, atleast it doesn't break all the fucking time. (or the mini-toslinks could use metal instead of plastic but they wouldn't be much more sturdy then either.)
I've been thinking about getting the airport express + airfoil but have hated that I would also have to get the airport extreme to get wireless disc. Can't understand why they don't have both functions in the same product!?! I have also been thinking about building an access point of my own from an MSI wind barebone but I guess this renders airfoil/airtunes unusable then.
Retards:/
Nice seeing osx86 improving all the time atleast, instead of stop working at Leopard it started working even better:)
Kinda retarded to do a 3G phone with only one camera.
More or less the only reason to get 3G at all is to be able to do video calls. I had assumed Apple would had manage to do this right from the beginning, but I guess they would sell less phones then.. Or that it would mess up the design of the front.
Guess I forgot "patent it as much as possible and be a bitch when someone else takes the idea and improves their product to something useful."
May I add Airtunes to the things above to? Wireless audio from iTunes? Why not from all applications? Youtube? VLC? Games? No, iTunes 'ought to be enough for everyone!
It's typical Apple maner to have a good idea, implement it fast and then leave the product and not develop it further.
Which I find so weird, it's understandable with single developers or free projects because then you may enjoy the challenge in getting something to work or just implementing the idea but then get tired of improving the design and make it a good product.
But in Apples case? iChat, iTunes, iPhoto, Pages, Mail, all good starts but then what? Neither is the application to rule them all.
Yeah I know, I just wanted to know if there was any difference in us and Iceland. Though I must have to admit I don't know much about what we did at all, except the stuff you mention.
Anyway, you can't blame us, it worked, didn't it?;D We retained our freedom and it was good for our economy I assume, even more so after the war coming out intact vs the rest of Europe.
Too bad we have never actually deserved our "richness" so now this long time after WW II we have lost our free edge.
When will there be WW III?!! We need it.
If only I got some chance to export some swedish wood...
So join us (Sweden), Norway and Denmark and form simply Scandinavia or something, pleaase =P.
I wonder if the danish people would really like that though, especially since their policy against foreign people is kinda different, though they have wanted to have us as part of them so often earlier so why not?:D Finally a way to get rid of SkÃ¥ne to! (Just kidding everyone in MalmÃ, we like you to.)
I guess Norway may want to be on their own as long as they got the oil to.
I haven't used either of the BSDs for some while now so I may not be up to date but classic advantages has been BSD license obviously, clean reusable and easy to read code and (maybe therefor?) portability.
I still think they tell you you're only allowed one account.
I think it's nice of them to give me one in the first place so I'd rather not take advantage of them. Sure if I make another account for a couple of other e-mails it won't hurt them but if I use them to store 10*6 GB of data or so it will somewhat.
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If it iPhone was open and I could buy it without a subscription for a normal price it would had been an awesome product. I was talking Apple in general, they always seem to miss out on some things and they aren't to good at listening to their consumers ideas, or even accept people spreading the word about any flaws whatsoever.
(We have HSDPA to which is an improvement over UMTS, which over here is called "Turbo 3G".)
Sorry, I live in Sweden, over here all phones use SIM cards with the difference of NMT = analog, GSM = second gen digital, 3G = higher bitrate and support for things like video calls.
If you look at Constantines answer I guess we have GSM and UMTS, we don't have CDMA, or something like that.
So I guess over here its:
1G = NMT
2G = GSM
3G = UMTS
Or something such.
If the iPhone 3G was a Microsoft product and they have missed to add the second cam releasing yet another model for people to buy just to get it headline would read something like:
"Microsoft finally admit and somewhat fix their poor excuse for a 3G phone.", with additional "haha" tags and what not.
Not sure how much longer they can keep up the 80%-fashion/20%-function blend across an entire product line, especially in this economy.
Yeah, the user interfaces are good and the case designs is ok to (though they mess up to, toilet lid iBook? iPod Nano fat?)
But I could had designed the hardware specs and help them improve the software functionality much better than whatever people do it now.
iChat don't do MSN. Webcam don't work with ICQ or something such, file transfer may not be supported over Jabber, multiple contact lists for each protocol is retarded.
iTunes have very limited format support and as far as I know you can't let it synchronize the content of a directory without letting it manage a complete library.
iPhoto don't do adjustments as good as aperture or lightroom and they don't work good with each other / list the adjusted photos of the later ones in iPhoto. It's good enough for browsing saved photos but that's about it.
iLife and iWork would probably do better with a manual.
Mail don't want to check mails for spam before I open the mails (over IMAP) which is kinda useless because if I have opened the mail then I'll already know if it's spam or not .. Also it's not very good at figuring out what is spam or not.
I asked the guy in the store if the metal one was metal all the way but he said it was only on the tip, which sounded weird. But the cable with metal tips was quite expensive and all I wanted was an adapter anyway. And I guess even if there is 0.2 mm of metal around the plastic fibre it will break quite easily anyway or atleast bend. Still better than plastic though. I may order 20 or so from that store someone else suggested. Crappy design by Apple in any case, though I know you / other mac people never agrees but who gives a shit, they are retards.
Yeah, the one which snapped for me got stuck in the MBP to, I pulled out the fibre and put a screw into the hole of the plastic and managed to pull it out. Would had got so fucking upset if I couldn't get it out of there thanks to Apples retardness.
There are plenty of space left on the sides, and even more so on the back.
Using it analogue wouldn't had been so bad if it wasn't that the analog audio quality suck. Also what's up with no mic input on any macs? ..
lol, thanks, over here they cost 59.50 sek / each, so 7.11 $ / each, not < 0.72 as those.
Nah you'll get iMessages in the form of compressed Keynote-presentations instead.
Just because you CAN do video calls you don't have to. And yes, I already know much people don't request this feature or care (except deaf people), but it's still more or less the definition of a 3G phone for me.
Maybe it's just that USA have got 3G so late? When did they start getting it? Because yes, Nokia and Sony-Ericsson have done dual-cam 3G phones for years. I can't imagine how you can do a 3G phone with just one cam. It's like "oh, look, we replaced the antenna!"
...
The market thing, atleast over here in Europe, of 3G has always been being able to do video-calls, which most people haven't cared much about but anyway.
I guess the other benefit is higher data-rates which may be what Apple was after but I don't think many people use their phones for data and the much worse coverage of 3G vs GSM + bigger phones + worse battery life makes people see 3G as a disadvantage instead.
The only people I know preferring 3G is deaf people since it's the only device which let them contact each other (except webcam then, but they don't have that with them all the time ..)
Ah, I see. Yeah I know Airfoil exist but I didn't knew about this issue, that suck :(
I have a Macbook Pro and when I finally found mini-toslink to toslink adapters it took 3 days before it broke because I moved the computer and the cable got somewhat stuck.
Got a new one but two days later I stepped on the cable and it got broken again >
Fucking retarded to use mini-toslink but it's expected from Apple, I'll never buy any Apple hardware again. Why couldn't they just use an additional connector and real toslink instead, atleast it doesn't break all the fucking time. (or the mini-toslinks could use metal instead of plastic but they wouldn't be much more sturdy then either.)
I've been thinking about getting the airport express + airfoil but have hated that I would also have to get the airport extreme to get wireless disc. Can't understand why they don't have both functions in the same product!?!
I have also been thinking about building an access point of my own from an MSI wind barebone but I guess this renders airfoil/airtunes unusable then.
Retards :/
Nice seeing osx86 improving all the time atleast, instead of stop working at Leopard it started working even better :)
Kinda retarded to do a 3G phone with only one camera.
More or less the only reason to get 3G at all is to be able to do video calls. I had assumed Apple would had manage to do this right from the beginning, but I guess they would sell less phones then .. Or that it would mess up the design of the front.
Guess I forgot "patent it as much as possible and be a bitch when someone else takes the idea and improves their product to something useful."
May I add Airtunes to the things above to? Wireless audio from iTunes? Why not from all applications? Youtube? VLC? Games? No, iTunes 'ought to be enough for everyone!
It's typical Apple maner to have a good idea, implement it fast and then leave the product and not develop it further.
Which I find so weird, it's understandable with single developers or free projects because then you may enjoy the challenge in getting something to work or just implementing the idea but then get tired of improving the design and make it a good product.
But in Apples case? iChat, iTunes, iPhoto, Pages, Mail, all good starts but then what? Neither is the application to rule them all.
Why is this news?
A 3G phone which can do video calls!? Omg!! ...
A phone which can use its camera for storing videos and which can play music? No shit!
I had assumed the iPhone could already do video-calls, kinda shitty the 3G one can't (if that's really so.)
Yeah I know, I just wanted to know if there was any difference in us and Iceland. Though I must have to admit I don't know much about what we did at all, except the stuff you mention.
Anyway, you can't blame us, it worked, didn't it? ;D
We retained our freedom and it was good for our economy I assume, even more so after the war coming out intact vs the rest of Europe.
Too bad we have never actually deserved our "richness" so now this long time after WW II we have lost our free edge.
When will there be WW III?!! We need it.
If only I got some chance to export some swedish wood ...
Sweden wasn't either though we never did any actual war.
It's the Wikipedia summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
So join us (Sweden), Norway and Denmark and form simply Scandinavia or something, pleaase =P.
I wonder if the danish people would really like that though, especially since their policy against foreign people is kinda different, though they have wanted to have us as part of them so often earlier so why not? :D Finally a way to get rid of SkÃ¥ne to! (Just kidding everyone in MalmÃ, we like you to.)
I guess Norway may want to be on their own as long as they got the oil to.
... due to our somewhat submissive relationship with the USSR.
And there's nothing wrong with that! We all enjoy different things!
I haven't used either of the BSDs for some while now so I may not be up to date but classic advantages has been BSD license obviously, clean reusable and easy to read code and (maybe therefor?) portability.
Though nowadays Linux probably runs as many or more platforms, which don't mean NetBSD runs on few:
http://netbsd.org/ports/
http://netbsd.org/about/portability.html
I still think they tell you you're only allowed one account.
I think it's nice of them to give me one in the first place so I'd rather not take advantage of them. Sure if I make another account for a couple of other e-mails it won't hurt them but if I use them to store 10*6 GB of data or so it will somewhat.
Atleast you had HD way before us over here in Europe.
But you're not allowed to have multiple accounts on Gmail if I remember correctly, and I rather respect their rules.