A life is a life, no matter how old or how young, and unless you are going to break down and tell me the insurance companies/government bodies are filled full of oracle's; there is no way of knowing how much or how little each persons life is worth or how much longer it will last. Most people, including myself, have either paid for or had insurance paid for them since a very young age. Why? So we/they don't have to pay out a huge bill if and or when something happens. That was the whole reason behind insurance programs when they started. To say that because someone is old and may not have that many payments remaining is ridiculous, most likely the elderly person has already paid in more money than most of the teenagers will before they raise up and strike against having to pay for it all.
Just put yourself in those shoes and I think your opninion will change. Imagine being 70 years old, needing hip surgery, but otherwise beeing in great health and getting rejected because of your age - what do you do now?
This very thing happened to my grandmother (only she's 85), except, they didn't reject her and now she's fully recovered and living her life just as she was before. Her primary daily job? Helping others that are less fortunate.
Call my crazy but if you open this document http://www.sco.com/novell/amend_apap2.pdf
and look at the bottom of the pages it looks as though the filename is G:\LEGAL\TRANSFER\SCO\AMEND3.:-O
"I'm considering an MBA or equivalent form of buisness education myself. Why? Because, as any truly aspring techie does, I want to work for -myself"
Just my 2 cents here, but I started a full class "c" corporation in 1998 after being in college for 1 year 1 semester. We started with $700.00 and a good lead and ended up in our second year with over $30,000.00 in the checking, no dept and had it not been for stupid partners, I would probably still be in it today. Because of them I left the company of my own accord. I'm 22 now, and no one in the company was over the age of 19 when it started. None of us had a "formal" college education, nor do any of us go to school now. Our company was eventually sucked into a much bigger company and that's where it lies now, but point being, you don't have to have an MBA to stat a company, you just have to have lots of common sense, a good salesman, and alot of caffiene for those late night accounting sessions.
The Russians should have been using SSH for there remote communications.. At least that way it would have taken the FBI longer to figure out what they were actually doing and how they were doing it.
On a side note, the issue about the NT exploit. If it is a big firm that is running NT as an actual webserver, they deserved to be slapped. The major problem with NT and it's updates is that for most of them you have to reboot for the changes to take place. That just doesn't go well when you trying to provide a 24/7 service. I meen have you ever seen how long it takes a server with 5+ UWSCSI Drives and 1 1/2 gigs of ram to boot? Almost like 10 minutes, and most of that is just waiting for the SCSI controller to find all the bloody drives. Anyways, enough bableing.. I'm ranted for the day..
Also, the original poster is correct: Microsoft, hated though it well deserves to be, can indeed take plenty credit for having propelled the computer/software industry to where it is today. The credit is not theirs alone, but there's something to be said for their having written an OS that "regular people" can easily learn, and putting it in so many homes.
This is true. But look at it from the totally new user perspective. If you had started out on a *nix platform then that is what you would have learned to use from the start. In effect, you would then find it to be easier to use then any other platform/OS. In my experience I started out using a Macintosh 512k and learned dos by running a PC Emulator on our Performa 600. For me DOS was originally very hard, but I used it I got used to it. After DOS, of course, came Windows 3.1, 95, then 98 with NT in back end mist of it all. I got my hands on a copy of Linux back in 1992 and started using that with twm as the wm.
In short, what I'm trying to say is that the OS you learn on is the OS you like best. It doesn't matter if MS makes it or not. If you learn, love it, and use it then that is YOUR choice. Every OS has its addvantages and disadvantages. I use probably 4-5 different OS's each day, as both servers and workstations. Hell, out company has 12 computers in 1 room running 4 different OS's mostly because of that fact that some do certain things better than others.
Sorry for the long post, but OS wars are kind of a pet peve of mine.
Edward McLain Technology Unlimited, Inc. Birmingham's Premiere NSP Linux / Windows NT \ Macintosh
IMHO, if you want to accomplish this you need to take a look over at AirONet. From what we can tell this is the best wireless equipment around. We have tested at over 5 miles apart, with the access point using a 12Dbi Omni and the PCMCIA card using a 13.5Dbi Yagi and gotten around 10Mbits. We were also not in direct line of sight. We had a patch of tress and a small ridge that we had to overcome. This equipment works wonders and altough it is rather pricey, is worth every penny.
Edward McLain Technology Unlimited, Inc. Birmingham's Premiere NSP Linux / Windows NT \ Macintosh
Just as a note.. My company does ADSL Installs for World Web Internet Service Provider (wwisp.com). Having dealth with ADSL and all its round abouts and with Bell (ugh) I can surely tell you that in most cases the bandwith is limited at the ISP side. It is then limited by the telco to 1.5Mbps (at least in B'ham) by the DSLAM on the ATM circuit side. It may be different in other regions using other CO side equipment. BellSouth uses Alcatel. Hope this helps a little. Ed McLain Technology Unlimited, Inc. Birmingham's Premiere Network Solutions Provider. Linux*Windows 9x/NT/2000*Macintosh Edward McLain Technology Unlimited, Inc. Birmingham's Premiere Network Solutions Provider Linux / Windows NT \ Macintosh
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A life is a life, no matter how old or how young, and unless you are going to break down and tell me the insurance companies/government bodies are filled full of oracle's; there is no way of knowing how much or how little each persons life is worth or how much longer it will last. Most people, including myself, have either paid for or had insurance paid for them since a very young age. Why? So we/they don't have to pay out a huge bill if and or when something happens. That was the whole reason behind insurance programs when they started. To say that because someone is old and may not have that many payments remaining is ridiculous, most likely the elderly person has already paid in more money than most of the teenagers will before they raise up and strike against having to pay for it all.
Just put yourself in those shoes and I think your opninion will change. Imagine being 70 years old, needing hip surgery, but otherwise beeing in great health and getting rejected because of your age - what do you do now?
This very thing happened to my grandmother (only she's 85), except, they didn't reject her and now she's fully recovered and living her life just as she was before. Her primary daily job? Helping others that are less fortunate.
Call my crazy but if you open this document http://www.sco.com/novell/amend_apap2.pdf
and look at the bottom of the pages it looks as though the filename is G:\LEGAL\TRANSFER\SCO\AMEND3.:-O
Just thought that a bit interesting.
Carry on witht he SCO smashing.
"I'm considering an MBA or equivalent form of buisness education myself. Why? Because, as any truly aspring techie does, I want to work for -myself"
.02.
Just my 2 cents here, but I started a full class "c" corporation in 1998 after being in college for 1 year 1 semester. We started with $700.00 and a good lead and ended up in our second year with over $30,000.00 in the checking, no dept and had it not been for stupid partners, I would probably still be in it today. Because of them I left the company of my own accord. I'm 22 now, and no one in the company was over the age of 19 when it started. None of us had a "formal" college education, nor do any of us go to school now. Our company was eventually sucked into a much bigger company and that's where it lies now, but point being, you don't have to have an MBA to stat a company, you just have to have lots of common sense, a good salesman, and alot of caffiene for those late night accounting sessions.
just my
Ed.
The Russians should have been using SSH for there remote communications.. At least that way it would have taken the FBI longer to figure out what they were actually doing and how they were doing it.
On a side note, the issue about the NT exploit. If it is a big firm that is running NT as an actual webserver, they deserved to be slapped. The major problem with NT and it's updates is that for most of them you have to reboot for the changes to take place. That just doesn't go well when you trying to provide a 24/7 service. I meen have you ever seen how long it takes a server with 5+ UWSCSI Drives and 1 1/2 gigs of ram to boot? Almost like 10 minutes, and most of that is just waiting for the SCSI controller to find all the bloody drives. Anyways, enough bableing.. I'm ranted for the day..
Ed.
Replace the ftp with http and all is well.. Seems they aren't allowing anonymous ftps any longer or something.
Ed.
Also, the original poster is correct: Microsoft, hated though it well deserves to be, can indeed take plenty credit for having propelled the computer/software industry to where it is today. The credit is not theirs alone, but there's something to be said for their having written an OS that "regular people" can easily learn, and putting it in so many homes.
This is true. But look at it from the totally new user perspective. If you had started out on a *nix platform then that is what you would have learned to use from the start. In effect, you would then find it to be easier to use then any other platform/OS. In my experience I started out using a Macintosh 512k and learned dos by running a PC Emulator on our Performa 600. For me DOS was originally very hard, but I used it I got used to it. After DOS, of course, came Windows 3.1, 95, then 98 with NT in back end mist of it all. I got my hands on a copy of Linux back in 1992 and started using that with twm as the wm.
In short, what I'm trying to say is that the OS you learn on is the OS you like best. It doesn't matter if MS makes it or not. If you learn, love it, and use it then that is
YOUR choice. Every OS has its addvantages and disadvantages. I use probably 4-5 different OS's each day, as both servers and workstations. Hell, out company has 12 computers in 1 room running 4 different OS's mostly because of that fact that some do certain things better than others.
Sorry for the long post, but OS wars are kind of a pet peve of mine.
Edward McLain
Technology Unlimited, Inc.
Birmingham's Premiere NSP
Linux / Windows NT \ Macintosh
I've just got a few things to say:
1)Dr. Watson runs under Windows NT not Windows 98 and if you can read its output and figure out why an application crashed then more power to you.
2)MS Paint cannot read or save JPG files.. Only bmp and gif (at least it can't on my Win98 SE laptop)
3)The Windows FTP client will never be what the *nix FTP client is. I'm sorry, but any ftp client whos default mode is ASCII just sucks.
4)Not to be rude, but maybe you should get some more hands on experience and stop reading the Windows for dummies books.
Edward McLain
Technology Unlimited, Inc.
Birmingham's Premiere NSP
Linux / Windows NT \ Macintosh
IMHO, if you want to accomplish this you need to take a look over at AirONet. From what we can tell this is the best wireless equipment around. We have tested at over 5 miles apart, with the access point using a 12Dbi Omni and the PCMCIA card using a 13.5Dbi Yagi and gotten around 10Mbits. We were also not in direct line of sight. We had a patch of tress and a small ridge that we had to overcome. This equipment works wonders and altough it is rather pricey, is worth every penny.
Edward McLain
Technology Unlimited, Inc.
Birmingham's Premiere NSP
Linux / Windows NT \ Macintosh
Just as a note.. My company does ADSL Installs for World Web Internet Service Provider (wwisp.com). Having dealth with ADSL and all its round abouts and with Bell (ugh) I can surely tell you that in most cases the bandwith is limited at the ISP side. It is then limited by the telco to 1.5Mbps (at least in B'ham) by the DSLAM on the ATM circuit side. It may be different in other regions using other CO side equipment. BellSouth uses Alcatel. Hope this helps a little. Ed McLain Technology Unlimited, Inc. Birmingham's Premiere Network Solutions Provider. Linux*Windows 9x/NT/2000*Macintosh
Edward McLain
Technology Unlimited, Inc.
Birmingham's Premiere Network Solutions Provider
Linux / Windows NT \ Macintosh