Indeed. Revenge just puts you on the same level. It is fascinating how many people do not get that and believe circumstances can make it right. Most humans are still animals at heart.
I wonder how you'd feel if your daughter was in Joy Stewart's place? How would you feel if you fought to release him and then he goes off and murders a few more women.... Social animals have always excised the rabid and anti-community oriented among themselves. It's survival of society and unless and until a clockwork orange style reprogramming happens and you think that's better, there isn't much else you can do.
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You might want to change your statement to "no women equivalents to Michelangelo or Rembrandt, Delacroix or Cezanne, Picasso or Matisse..." have been recognized, due to the societal taboos of growing up in those times. They were there, but were sidelined or worse when their talents started showing. A sad statement on western civilization at the time, but others were/are no better.
So here's the other side of that coin... I have a 2006 Macbook Pro, replaced the hard drive because the original was too small and slow, upgraded the RAM, and just recently had to clean and lubricate the left fan. I have a 2009 MBP (work machine) that only had upgraded RAM until last month, when I upgraded the disk to an SSD. Seems that those laptops are running just fine. Then again, I'm not overly concerned about popping open a laptop to repair or replace something. When is the last time you saw a Dell, Lenovo or Asus laptop last more than 5 years and be perfectly functional?
Exactly this. I'm only a second year med student and even I could tell you that trying to kill someone with the mixture of drugs in the summary would be a really ugly process...., but it's WAY more humane for the person being executed, the one who were trying to protect from unnecessary cruelty and suffering.... if the killing is to happen, it should be done with something we know works reliably and quickly.
Hmmm, I wonder how quickly and humanely Joy Stewart died?
Insurance companies already are working on getting people to have black boxes. These are not for your benefit. They will not make your insurance cheaper. They are there to raise the average insurance revenue.
You can expect data to mysteriously disappear during or shortly after wrecks, if it was ever collected at all.
Starting to feel like I'm feeding a troll here. I know we're not supposed to do that, but what the hell. As the hackneyed old saying on Slashdot goes, I've got Karma to burn, so why not?
No troll here, karma to burn as well.
Here's the problem, to get to the level of good capable EE's, someone somewhere has to teach and train them. That generally happens as a novice.
OK, so you need to make up your mind. Do you want someone to explain to you how one enters the workforce after completing a degree, or are you looking for the super, secret, magic, insider trick that instantaneously propels one from "recent graduate" to "uber professional" with an "EE type job" (whatever it is you mean by that). You're switching arguments mid-stream, and as a result, missing the point.
I'm missing no point, although you seem to be. What's this "super secret magic insider trick" you're talking about? Where did I mention anything about a fast-track path? A novice engineer doesn't get paid much, and doesn't do much useful stuff initially. They're learning on the job for whatever the specific job requires.
Oh where to start? First of all, you could not be more wrong, but before we get to that, let's illustrate how erratic your thinking is. You're saying "maintenance tech" as if that's the same thing as a well trained and educated engineer working on sophisticated electrical equipment like Static Switches or UPS Systems. To further illustrate your lack of understanding, in the next sentence, you use an analogy with a janitor as if it's a corollary. There is a big, big difference between a guy who changes light bulbs or empties trash cans and a skilled, specialized engineer/technician who's capable of working on complex equipment.
And yet no difference in the skills gap between them and the "higher" position. A maintenance tech doesn't need an engineering degree, and last time I checked, they didn't have them as a requirement. That may have changed over the years.
You then go on to say that the experience might lead to managing other techs or a division, but "that's about it", which by extraction I'm getting that for you this would not be an "EE Type Job". So, I guess I'm left wondering what it is that you think a person who gets an Electrical Engineering Degree might do professionally.
I know a few that work in HVAC, lighting, and construction at various levels personally, as well as several in technology related companies working on things as varied as control systems for high powered magnets to various types of chip design. Not a single one started out with anything like maintaining generators, although a couple did have to do coffee duty for the senior engineers in their firms.
Maybe you think that someone in this position gets a big office somewhere, and a big paycheck, and they just get to sit around and draw up designs on some CAD program, then send it out to other people to "do the work" and that's about it. I'm thinking this (combined with your attitude) are the reasons you're dissatisfied with your results so far.
And you continue your erroneous thinking (troll much?) I'm fine with my career choices, I don't wonder about yours.
Most Engineers I know don't have (and never had) any illusions about needing to pay their dues early in their careers, and realized that it was inevitable that they were eventually going to have to get their hands dirty a bit. For crying out loud, you're studying Electrical Engineering, it's not a crazy idea that your job might entail being involved with (and working directly on) ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. If you're going to take issue with opportunities that might involve you working with the gear, well then you probably picked the wrong degree program for you. What you wanted to pick was the "money for nothing" degree. Good
Any recent graduate in virtually any discipline is going to have to take a job where they are able to "prove themselves". Yes, this job is going to be a few rungs down the corporate ladder than you'd probably like, but suck it up, that's life.
I can assure you that there's a point where you'll take any job, rungs be damned. That's usually the point where you start taking things outside your chosen profession. When that happens, EE in this case has 1 less potential employee.
There are lots of jobs like this that simply can't be outsourced overseas because you have to have a body standing right in front of the equipment to be able to work on it. You just can't outsource a guy to come work on your Generator Paralleling Switchgear or your Automatic Transfer Switch. You need a guy in the area, with the tools and skills necessary to be able to get the job done. So yeah, you might have to start as a Preventive Maintenance tech or maybe a Project Manager or something, but if you stay the course, there is absolutely opportunity.
Working as a maintenance tech is not an EE job. It also generally won't lead to an EE type job, much as emptying trashcans in a headquarters office won't generally lead to the CEO position. What your experience might lead to is managing other techs, or even that division, but that's about all. If it were otherwise, there would be little use for college degrees.
Anybody... can tell you that good, capable EE's are not easy to come by at all.
Here's the problem, to get to the level of good capable EE's, someone somewhere has to teach and train them. That generally happens as a novice. Those jobs are also considered to be the first to be outsourced. So if you don't hire the novices, within a generation the good capable ones are gone. That business can't think beyond the next quarter is a huge part of the problem.
Apple continued to support PowerPC architectures for roughly 8 years after switching hardware. That is probably the best statement of support that can be made and goes far beyond what MS did with XP.
Call it what you want, the undisputed fact is a large number of applications widely in use and some even promoted by MS no longer ran in the new OS as is, and required patches. So I'll keep repeating that fact as appropriate.
MS hasn't supported XP in years, unless you buy a support contract. I believe Vista is in the same status, and Win7 is joining it next year. So what's your point there? You don't have one, I see.
As for backwards compatibility, MS broke huge swaths of apps when Vista came out. Apple switched architectures and supported code from the previous architecture for years. I think you need to stop drinking the koolaid, it appears you've had enough.
A statement about as moronic and useless as saying "guns don't kill, the bullets do".
A statement that is both moronic and false - bullets don't kill people either. It's the sudden deceleration of a bullet fired from a gun generally by a person when said bullet hits a person transferring its kinetic energy and all the things that go with it....
Neither the people who came up with the slogan "Speed Kills", nor the people that use it, think that driving at 90mph causes spontaneous death. They are all very aware that it's the sudden deceleration when you hit something whilst travelling at that speed that tends to produce death.
On your majority claim, please show an official efficiency curve for any car that does more mph at 90 than 55. My bet is you can't. Because it's nonsense.
I'm sure you looked - they're all about pointing out something entirely different, although I did find mention of one that said too low rpms will also kill fuel economy, which it should. It should be noted that the car in question was geared for a top speed of 180mph at red-line with a 5 speed manual, so a prius it wasn't... The entire point is that the rules for speed / consumption are subject to gearing, engine type, and general efficiency. A super charged V-8 intended to go 200 mph will never get its best gas mileage at 20....
you know you're basically talking about the most aerodynamically efficient production car out there.
I don't dispute that, but for MOST cars, 50 mph is the AVERAGE peak. And there are a lot of factors, including transmission, engine type, power-weight ratio - but none of these factors are nearly as important as MAINTAINING STEADY SPEED.
I doubt that. Most CARS probably peak above 70, but that doesn't fly well with the double nickel proponents that think speed kills (it doesn't, the sudden deceleration does). I had one care that got about 23mpg at 55. At an average of 90, a remarkable 34 mpg. Most cars power-efficiency curve in the US put them far above 50 mph. Now many of the streamlined pickup trucks and SUVs, on the other hand, I'd say 50-55 is their peak. They are almost parachutes after all.
You're mistaken - it's not a tariff on a specific good. It's a general tax for anything crossing the border. It's primary purpose is to offset the tax revenue lost to the fed due to goods not made here, with it's supporting labor force (we have this rather nasty deficit and debt we need to deal with) Coincidentally, the same type of tax could be levied by the feds on anything crossing a state border.
Regarding imports: that's the purvey of Congress, who can levy taxes and equalize prices for foreign subsidized savings (ie, labor) Congress has utterly failed at doing its job here, a standard levy of 15-20% would go a long way to equalizing the playing field, and having imports support the taxes lost to imports (in the form of jobs going overseas). Yes, this increases costs of imports, but perhaps that should happen.
Legend airlines had first class seating in the whole plane. They were doing very well and were full, but had the misfortune of launching right as the airline industry suffered a major downturn and increase in fuel prices.
WTF man. Seriously, W. T. F. What sort of shantytown operating system and software are you running in two thousand and frigin fourteen where you WILL NOT have at least a VGA resolution GUI available? Since Windows XP, over twelve years ago, if you couldn't get at least a VGA resolution GUI then you're system was seriously broken and the only thing you were concerned about was fixing the operating system or recovering your data.
The headless system that's running 5K miles away that has an effective latency in the seconds for typed characters.
Yes it is. That is EXACTLY how it is done. Have you never at least seen an Active Directory Domain Controller? A few clicks and you see who has what permissions and with a couple more clicks can add or revoke access to whatever directory or service you want.
Thanks for the laugh. Now, you go off and check the other 2,499,999 people. Let me know when you're done. I'll have a list of outliers with a few queries. Or change the setup within seconds. AD is still the single biggest POS to ever masquerade as a directory provider. I'm not even sure there's a worse one out there.
To be brutally honest, you're talking as if it was the year 1994 or something.
I never said a GUI wasn't nicer in some cases, that's your strawman. What I did claim was that there should be no functionality provided by a GUI that was also not provided via CLI.
I'm not talking about desktops specifically, although they're included, as companies want those locked down tight.
As for Windows vs Linux, I'd still say Win7 lives in Win3.1 style, the icons and everything are prettier, and there's some glitz and transitions added. Overall, it's not much different. OS X isn't any different there either. They all are derived from PARC's initial GUI, which Apple massively improved on, and Microsoft and others all copied. As for GUI control for any of those things, sure, it'd be nice I suppose. OSX, one of the least perceived CLI items around can still be fully configured via CLI. Windows cannot last time I checked (2008R2 server). Which OS is more powerful when you're running 100+ systems? Or 1000+?
As for consumer phones and tablets I'll agree Joe and Sally shouldn't ever need to touch them. It'd be nice if they had the option though. You will obviously disagree.
... they COULD have listened to retailers like me that are begging for a real choice... but instead they refused to let go of a 40+ year old GUI and instead of treating CLI for what it is, a niche that should only be used in certain limited use cases, they treated it as the fricking force and a right of passage.
Well, odds are they stopped listening after the "40+ year old GUI" comment, since the "fugly as hell Win9x level GUIs" are at most 25 years old, and that's being generous and including all of them. 20 would probably be the better age. But that aside, a GUI based system should always build on top of CLI based calls. There should not be anything doable via GUI that's not doable via CLI. Why? Because you will not always have a GUI to work with, or circumstances may make a GUI not workable. Also, a CLI based system allows for scripting for checks and configuration, among other things, and a whole hoard of automated processes. Also, in a worst case scenario, it provides a known and testable avenue for 3rd party software to use. This is especially handy when going across multiple versions of OSes or across OSes that share a common tool base.
IOW, no, this isn't for Joe and Sally consumer, who would never even see this level. But if you think this level of access is going away, you are wholly and completely off base as businesses are looking for ways to control and validate lock-downs of devices, and a GUI will not be the way it's done.
New users never heard about bash. We live in the 21th century. By now no one should use things like grep, sed or awk anymore. The developers around systemd make sure that this functionality is soon hidden away from the audience.
Right, and that's the problem, new users don't understand how to use command line tools so everything gets loaded into a GUI...
Command line tools are still useful, even in the 21th century. If I didn't have Perl, then grep and/or awk would have been able to extract the data with a single pass through the file.
Absolutely, now try parsing through one of those files on a remote system, and the CLI becomes your one and only friend, at least in the *nix world, AFAIK, windows still fails horribly at this basic task. Imagine if you could have just ssh'd into the file server and run the query remotely, you could have skipped the whole downloading of the dataset in the first place.
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Indeed. Revenge just puts you on the same level. It is fascinating how many people do not get that and believe circumstances can make it right. Most humans are still animals at heart.
I wonder how you'd feel if your daughter was in Joy Stewart's place? How would you feel if you fought to release him and then he goes off and murders a few more women.... Social animals have always excised the rabid and anti-community oriented among themselves. It's survival of society and unless and until a clockwork orange style reprogramming happens and you think that's better, there isn't much else you can do.
You might want to change your statement to "no women equivalents to Michelangelo or Rembrandt, Delacroix or Cezanne, Picasso or Matisse..." have been recognized, due to the societal taboos of growing up in those times. They were there, but were sidelined or worse when their talents started showing. A sad statement on western civilization at the time, but others were/are no better.
So here's the other side of that coin... I have a 2006 Macbook Pro, replaced the hard drive because the original was too small and slow, upgraded the RAM, and just recently had to clean and lubricate the left fan. I have a 2009 MBP (work machine) that only had upgraded RAM until last month, when I upgraded the disk to an SSD. Seems that those laptops are running just fine. Then again, I'm not overly concerned about popping open a laptop to repair or replace something. When is the last time you saw a Dell, Lenovo or Asus laptop last more than 5 years and be perfectly functional?
They might instead just drop the policies of the worst 2% of drivers.
Won't happen - they must take high risk pool drivers.
Exactly this. I'm only a second year med student and even I could tell you that trying to kill someone with the mixture of drugs in the summary would be a really ugly process. ..., but it's WAY more humane for the person being executed, the one who were trying to protect from unnecessary cruelty and suffering. ... if the killing is to happen, it should be done with something we know works reliably and quickly.
Hmmm, I wonder how quickly and humanely Joy Stewart died?
Insurance companies already are working on getting people to have black boxes. These are not for your benefit. They will not make your insurance cheaper. They are there to raise the average insurance revenue.
You can expect data to mysteriously disappear during or shortly after wrecks, if it was ever collected at all.
Starting to feel like I'm feeding a troll here. I know we're not supposed to do that, but what the hell. As the hackneyed old saying on Slashdot goes, I've got Karma to burn, so why not?
No troll here, karma to burn as well.
Here's the problem, to get to the level of good capable EE's, someone somewhere has to teach and train them. That generally happens as a novice.
OK, so you need to make up your mind. Do you want someone to explain to you how one enters the workforce after completing a degree, or are you looking for the super, secret, magic, insider trick that instantaneously propels one from "recent graduate" to "uber professional" with an "EE type job" (whatever it is you mean by that). You're switching arguments mid-stream, and as a result, missing the point.
I'm missing no point, although you seem to be. What's this "super secret magic insider trick" you're talking about? Where did I mention anything about a fast-track path? A novice engineer doesn't get paid much, and doesn't do much useful stuff initially. They're learning on the job for whatever the specific job requires.
Oh where to start? First of all, you could not be more wrong, but before we get to that, let's illustrate how erratic your thinking is. You're saying "maintenance tech" as if that's the same thing as a well trained and educated engineer working on sophisticated electrical equipment like Static Switches or UPS Systems. To further illustrate your lack of understanding, in the next sentence, you use an analogy with a janitor as if it's a corollary. There is a big, big difference between a guy who changes light bulbs or empties trash cans and a skilled, specialized engineer/technician who's capable of working on complex equipment.
And yet no difference in the skills gap between them and the "higher" position. A maintenance tech doesn't need an engineering degree, and last time I checked, they didn't have them as a requirement. That may have changed over the years.
You then go on to say that the experience might lead to managing other techs or a division, but "that's about it", which by extraction I'm getting that for you this would not be an "EE Type Job". So, I guess I'm left wondering what it is that you think a person who gets an Electrical Engineering Degree might do professionally.
I know a few that work in HVAC, lighting, and construction at various levels personally, as well as several in technology related companies working on things as varied as control systems for high powered magnets to various types of chip design. Not a single one started out with anything like maintaining generators, although a couple did have to do coffee duty for the senior engineers in their firms.
Maybe you think that someone in this position gets a big office somewhere, and a big paycheck, and they just get to sit around and draw up designs on some CAD program, then send it out to other people to "do the work" and that's about it. I'm thinking this (combined with your attitude) are the reasons you're dissatisfied with your results so far.
And you continue your erroneous thinking (troll much?) I'm fine with my career choices, I don't wonder about yours.
Most Engineers I know don't have (and never had) any illusions about needing to pay their dues early in their careers, and realized that it was inevitable that they were eventually going to have to get their hands dirty a bit. For crying out loud, you're studying Electrical Engineering, it's not a crazy idea that your job might entail being involved with (and working directly on) ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. If you're going to take issue with opportunities that might involve you working with the gear, well then you probably picked the wrong degree program for you. What you wanted to pick was the "money for nothing" degree. Good
Any recent graduate in virtually any discipline is going to have to take a job where they are able to "prove themselves". Yes, this job is going to be a few rungs down the corporate ladder than you'd probably like, but suck it up, that's life.
I can assure you that there's a point where you'll take any job, rungs be damned. That's usually the point where you start taking things outside your chosen profession. When that happens, EE in this case has 1 less potential employee.
There are lots of jobs like this that simply can't be outsourced overseas because you have to have a body standing right in front of the equipment to be able to work on it. You just can't outsource a guy to come work on your Generator Paralleling Switchgear or your Automatic Transfer Switch. You need a guy in the area, with the tools and skills necessary to be able to get the job done. So yeah, you might have to start as a Preventive Maintenance tech or maybe a Project Manager or something, but if you stay the course, there is absolutely opportunity.
Working as a maintenance tech is not an EE job. It also generally won't lead to an EE type job, much as emptying trashcans in a headquarters office won't generally lead to the CEO position. What your experience might lead to is managing other techs, or even that division, but that's about all. If it were otherwise, there would be little use for college degrees.
Anybody... can tell you that good, capable EE's are not easy to come by at all.
Here's the problem, to get to the level of good capable EE's, someone somewhere has to teach and train them. That generally happens as a novice. Those jobs are also considered to be the first to be outsourced. So if you don't hire the novices, within a generation the good capable ones are gone. That business can't think beyond the next quarter is a huge part of the problem.
I hope not, given that it's written at a 6th grade level and it's only two sentences. But hey, if you're a 5th grader that's probably pretty good!
Or a college athlete.
Apple continued to support PowerPC architectures for roughly 8 years after switching hardware. That is probably the best statement of support that can be made and goes far beyond what MS did with XP.
Call it what you want, the undisputed fact is a large number of applications widely in use and some even promoted by MS no longer ran in the new OS as is, and required patches. So I'll keep repeating that fact as appropriate.
July 2011 It also states that SL is suspected to have reached EOL as of Sep 2013, based on patch release history.
MS hasn't supported XP in years, unless you buy a support contract. I believe Vista is in the same status, and Win7 is joining it next year. So what's your point there? You don't have one, I see.
As for backwards compatibility, MS broke huge swaths of apps when Vista came out. Apple switched architectures and supported code from the previous architecture for years. I think you need to stop drinking the koolaid, it appears you've had enough.
(it doesn't, the sudden deceleration does)
A statement about as moronic and useless as saying "guns don't kill, the bullets do".
A statement that is both moronic and false - bullets don't kill people either. It's the sudden deceleration of a bullet fired from a gun generally by a person when said bullet hits a person transferring its kinetic energy and all the things that go with it....
Neither the people who came up with the slogan "Speed Kills", nor the people that use it, think that driving at 90mph causes spontaneous death. They are all very aware that it's the sudden deceleration when you hit something whilst travelling at that speed that tends to produce death.
On your majority claim, please show an official efficiency curve for any car that does more mph at 90 than 55. My bet is you can't. Because it's nonsense.
I'm sure you looked - they're all about pointing out something entirely different, although I did find mention of one that said too low rpms will also kill fuel economy, which it should. It should be noted that the car in question was geared for a top speed of 180mph at red-line with a 5 speed manual, so a prius it wasn't ... The entire point is that the rules for speed / consumption are subject to gearing, engine type, and general efficiency. A super charged V-8 intended to go 200 mph will never get its best gas mileage at 20....
you know you're basically talking about the most aerodynamically efficient production car out there.
I don't dispute that, but for MOST cars, 50 mph is the AVERAGE peak. And there are a lot of factors, including transmission, engine type, power-weight ratio - but none of these factors are nearly as important as MAINTAINING STEADY SPEED.
I doubt that. Most CARS probably peak above 70, but that doesn't fly well with the double nickel proponents that think speed kills (it doesn't, the sudden deceleration does). I had one care that got about 23mpg at 55. At an average of 90, a remarkable 34 mpg. Most cars power-efficiency curve in the US put them far above 50 mph. Now many of the streamlined pickup trucks and SUVs, on the other hand, I'd say 50-55 is their peak. They are almost parachutes after all.
Perhaps I don't agree with your opinion nor your supposed "understanding".
by going to a Sales tax on all items - coming into the country will be considered a "sale".
You're mistaken - it's not a tariff on a specific good. It's a general tax for anything crossing the border. It's primary purpose is to offset the tax revenue lost to the fed due to goods not made here, with it's supporting labor force (we have this rather nasty deficit and debt we need to deal with) Coincidentally, the same type of tax could be levied by the feds on anything crossing a state border.
Anything that crosses the border?
Regarding imports: that's the purvey of Congress, who can levy taxes and equalize prices for foreign subsidized savings (ie, labor) Congress has utterly failed at doing its job here, a standard levy of 15-20% would go a long way to equalizing the playing field, and having imports support the taxes lost to imports (in the form of jobs going overseas). Yes, this increases costs of imports, but perhaps that should happen.
Legend airlines had first class seating in the whole plane. They were doing very well and were full, but had the misfortune of launching right as the airline industry suffered a major downturn and increase in fuel prices.
WTF man. Seriously, W. T. F. What sort of shantytown operating system and software are you running in two thousand and frigin fourteen where you WILL NOT have at least a VGA resolution GUI available? Since Windows XP, over twelve years ago, if you couldn't get at least a VGA resolution GUI then you're system was seriously broken and the only thing you were concerned about was fixing the operating system or recovering your data.
The headless system that's running 5K miles away that has an effective latency in the seconds for typed characters.
Yes it is. That is EXACTLY how it is done. Have you never at least seen an Active Directory Domain Controller? A few clicks and you see who has what permissions and with a couple more clicks can add or revoke access to whatever directory or service you want.
Thanks for the laugh. Now, you go off and check the other 2,499,999 people. Let me know when you're done. I'll have a list of outliers with a few queries. Or change the setup within seconds. AD is still the single biggest POS to ever masquerade as a directory provider. I'm not even sure there's a worse one out there.
To be brutally honest, you're talking as if it was the year 1994 or something.
I never said a GUI wasn't nicer in some cases, that's your strawman. What I did claim was that there should be no functionality provided by a GUI that was also not provided via CLI.
I'm not talking about desktops specifically, although they're included, as companies want those locked down tight.
As for Windows vs Linux, I'd still say Win7 lives in Win3.1 style, the icons and everything are prettier, and there's some glitz and transitions added. Overall, it's not much different. OS X isn't any different there either. They all are derived from PARC's initial GUI, which Apple massively improved on, and Microsoft and others all copied. As for GUI control for any of those things, sure, it'd be nice I suppose. OSX, one of the least perceived CLI items around can still be fully configured via CLI. Windows cannot last time I checked (2008R2 server). Which OS is more powerful when you're running 100+ systems? Or 1000+?
As for consumer phones and tablets I'll agree Joe and Sally shouldn't ever need to touch them. It'd be nice if they had the option though. You will obviously disagree.
... they COULD have listened to retailers like me that are begging for a real choice... but instead they refused to let go of a 40+ year old GUI and instead of treating CLI for what it is, a niche that should only be used in certain limited use cases, they treated it as the fricking force and a right of passage.
Well, odds are they stopped listening after the "40+ year old GUI" comment, since the "fugly as hell Win9x level GUIs" are at most 25 years old, and that's being generous and including all of them. 20 would probably be the better age. But that aside, a GUI based system should always build on top of CLI based calls. There should not be anything doable via GUI that's not doable via CLI. Why? Because you will not always have a GUI to work with, or circumstances may make a GUI not workable. Also, a CLI based system allows for scripting for checks and configuration, among other things, and a whole hoard of automated processes. Also, in a worst case scenario, it provides a known and testable avenue for 3rd party software to use. This is especially handy when going across multiple versions of OSes or across OSes that share a common tool base.
IOW, no, this isn't for Joe and Sally consumer, who would never even see this level. But if you think this level of access is going away, you are wholly and completely off base as businesses are looking for ways to control and validate lock-downs of devices, and a GUI will not be the way it's done.
New users never heard about bash. We live in the 21th century. By now no one should use things like grep, sed or awk anymore. The developers around systemd make sure that this functionality is soon hidden away from the audience.
Right, and that's the problem, new users don't understand how to use command line tools so everything gets loaded into a GUI...
Command line tools are still useful, even in the 21th century. If I didn't have Perl, then grep and/or awk would have been able to extract the data with a single pass through the file.
Absolutely, now try parsing through one of those files on a remote system, and the CLI becomes your one and only friend, at least in the *nix world, AFAIK, windows still fails horribly at this basic task. Imagine if you could have just ssh'd into the file server and run the query remotely, you could have skipped the whole downloading of the dataset in the first place.