3072 bytes? Well I guess that's good old M$ bloat in action! Why on Linux such a hello world app only takes up 3065 bytes, proving just how bloated, evil, slow blah blah M$ is!
Stop destroying the world with bloated 3072 byte hello world apps!
so basically they are saying that if somebody buys a $150 package of their software, they have the complete freedom to distribute it to anyone they want at will? doesn't that completely kill their money-making opportunities?
Exactly. That's why no OSS-related company will get Big.
i'm not quite sure i'm understanding this - in fact, lol, i know im not getting this.
Mandrake began as Desktop RedHat 6.? with better KDE support.
The people at RH probably grumbled a tad, but they knew/know what the GPL means.
If someone who has an unnatural love for Mandriva wants to make, for example, a server oriented branch, they are more than welcome.
ok, if its totally open source, why can't i download an x86-64 edition of it?
Commercial Products: The Mandriva Linux Distributions that are not available for free download and which are sold in retail, e-commerce, and directly by Mandriva its partners and distributors. These include (but are not restricted to) Discovery, Powerpack, Powerpack+, Corporate Server, Move, Multi Network Firewall, Mandrivaclustering, Mandriva Linux for PPC, and Mandrivalinux for AMD64. and before you jump to any conclusions, im not bashing either you or mandriva, im just wondering here. is there still a way to get the x86-64 edition free? i used mandrake 10.0, the 64 bit edition of it for awhile, and i really liked it, but i didnt have time to figure out how to get all my games to work, and id really rather do all or nothing, not a dual boot. now i have time to do that, so im looking more into switching over. sorry for an uninformed post from a linux noob:D
You need to re-read the GPL.
When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software
(and charge for this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things.
It is unfortunate that some chose to try to sell Firefox as a more secure browser. While I'll still wager dollars to donuts that it is, I do think it was a mistake. Firefox, like every large software project, is going to have bugs and flaws.
That's the key, though.
More secure than IE does not mean perfectly, completely secure.
Even if FF is very buggy, it's still like saying safer in rear-end accidents than a Pinto...
Usually, afterwards it became know that quite a lot of social services were involved into the family, but didn't communicate with each other or that records simply 'vanished' because the family moved. in result; children die because social services are hugely incompetent.
"If you don't know how to do something, you don't know how to do it with a computer."
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This cradle-to-grave database won't fix what the US calls Child & Family Services.
What it will do is open the door to the concept of tracking every jot & tittle generated about you by the gov't, the healthcare system & the insurance companies.
I'm not too concerned about this happening in the USA any time in the nex 20 years, since
there's 19x more people in the US
Holland is tiny, 1/2 the size of NJ, and the US is BIG;
San Diego to Boston - 4150km
Dublin, IE to Moscow - 2800km.
NL is highly urbanized, the US still has lots and lots and lots of small towns spread from Barrow AK to the rural southeast
these kind of databases are really hard to design, build, maintain, etc
Same goes for DJs at non-clubbing venues. They always play the music too loud, rendering polite conversation, like you'd want at the wedding reception of people who aren't drunken party slobs, impossible.
I wonder how I missed that. I have been reading messages like that for so long that I must have been mentally inserting the -W- probably new sig time anyway.
Never! We DECcies need to remind people that VMS is still out there alive and kicking...
That's what my roommate does. He works for a company that writes banking software, doing the conversions for banks moving from other systems, frequently running Solaris or AIX, sometimes running Linux, to theirs, which runs on Windows, which is a hell of a lot more difficult than switching between Unices.
From your original post
When he does conversions, he routinely finishes early and spends the afternoon getting free beer from his boss.
That strongly implies that it only takes your roommate part of a day to convert banking software from *ix to Windows.
a) last time i checked, sparc was supported by linux
Linux the kernel supports SPARC, but so what? It's apps that are important, and not all apps run well on Sparc. Has to do with gcc, I think. The debian-sparc ml would give more detail.
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Are you shills from MicroSoft trying to evangelize C-sharp?
No, we are not shills from MicroSoft trying to evangelize C-sharp.
No, they are from AcuCorp, demonstrating how C really sucks sheep testicles, and how we should all be writing in COBOL or FORTRAN.
Except, of course, for OS developers, who should write in Bliss.
You failed to correctly interpret "great".
The quotes means it's sarcasm.
Ah, sorry. I see that now that I put my tin-foil glasses back on.
Those who modded this "funny" need to look at what happens to everyone who tries to get a motionless electric generator to market.
Soooo, what happens to them?
Try without -O3, optimizing the code makes it faster, but it takes up more disk space as a result.
Not in this tiny trival case.
A stripped "regular" hw is 3192 bytes, 1 quadword longer than the -O3 binary.
Since they both fit on a disk page, it doesn't really matter anyway...
Stop destroying the world with bloated 3072 byte hello world apps!
so basically they are saying that if somebody buys a $150 package of their software, they have the complete freedom to distribute it to anyone they want at will? doesn't that completely kill their money-making opportunities?
Exactly. That's why no OSS-related company will get Big.
i'm not quite sure i'm understanding this - in fact, lol, i know im not getting this.
Mandrake began as Desktop RedHat 6.? with better KDE support.
The people at RH probably grumbled a tad, but they knew/know what the GPL means.
If someone who has an unnatural love for Mandriva wants to make, for example, a server oriented branch, they are more than welcome.
Applications only run with additional privileges if the administrator explicitly chooses to do so and provides the necessary authorization.
What they don't say is that it's a royal fscking PITA to run as a home user without Admin privs.
Commercial Products: The Mandriva Linux Distributions that are not available for free download and which are sold in retail, e-commerce, and directly by Mandriva its partners and distributors. These include (but are not restricted to) Discovery, Powerpack, Powerpack+, Corporate Server, Move, Multi Network Firewall, Mandrivaclustering, Mandriva Linux for PPC,
and Mandrivalinux for AMD64. and before you jump to any conclusions, im not bashing either you or mandriva, im just wondering here. is there still a way to get the x86-64 edition free? i used mandrake 10.0, the 64 bit edition of it for awhile, and i really liked it, but i didnt have time to figure out how to get all my games to work, and id really rather do all or nothing, not a dual boot. now i have time to do that, so im looking more into switching over. sorry for an uninformed post from a linux noob
You need to re-read the GPL.
It is unfortunate that some chose to try to sell Firefox as a more secure browser. While I'll still wager dollars to donuts that it is, I do think it was a mistake. Firefox, like every large software project, is going to have bugs and flaws.
That's the key, though.
More secure than IE does not mean perfectly, completely secure.
Even if FF is very buggy, it's still like saying safer in rear-end accidents than a Pinto...
This cradle-to-grave database won't fix what the US calls Child & Family Services.
What it will do is open the door to the concept of tracking every jot & tittle generated about you by the gov't, the healthcare system & the insurance companies.
I'm not too concerned about this happening in the USA any time in the nex 20 years, since
Why are concerts played at such high volume?
Same goes for DJs at non-clubbing venues. They always play the music too loud, rendering polite conversation, like you'd want at the wedding reception of people who aren't drunken party slobs, impossible.
Really aggrivating.
I wonder how I missed that. I have been reading messages like that for so long that I must have been mentally inserting the -W-
probably new sig time anyway.
Never! We DECcies need to remind people that VMS is still out there alive and kicking...
%DEBUG-CMDNOTDW, The HELP command is not allowed in the DECWindows debugger
You forgot the severity indicator:
%DEBUG-W-CMDNOTDW
Nothing new hear, we've been getting this since at least 1980.
I am hard of hearing, and I lay the blame squarely on myself for, in the late 70s/early 80s, slapping on headphones and cranking up the volume.
My parents warned me, but of course I didn't pay attention...
go deaf early or go insane listening to your coworkers chatter.
Or wear ear plugs.
It'll be difficult for some people to stop wearing headsets. You get used to the "company", and become a bit nervous when there's silence.
Most of the time I'll arrange myself to have the top opening free so I can use it as a "handle". Pretty handy when you have to move them around.
Until the metal edge slices into your fingers. And then you realize the value of good cases.
it was an example, dipshit, seeing as how you're completely unaware that most wifi BB have shitty unreliable connections.
Replace "play wow" with any of your favorites:
He said it's worthless if you can't do Z on the bus.
That's stupid.
There are millions of people who will get huge use out of WiMax without ever using it in a bus, car, van, SUV, etc.
The more I press you, the longer the job seems to take.
What was "a morning of downtime", drinking beer in the afternoon with the boss, has now expanded into ample planning and a few weeks of work.
Maybe all your roommate does is a few weeks of work per site, but the bank sees more cost than a few weeks of half-days.
According to man mkswap, it wants a blocksize of 1024.
your apps will be paged out to a highly fragmented file created by the file system as opposed to a fixed file on a swap partition.
You ought to know that by now.
Yet another great reason to use Linux, where the only type of swapfile you can create is contiguous!
No I'm not, but thanks anyway...
That's what my roommate does. He works for a company that writes banking software, doing the conversions for banks moving from other systems, frequently running Solaris or AIX, sometimes running Linux, to theirs, which runs on Windows, which is a hell of a lot more difficult than switching between Unices.
From your original postThat strongly implies that it only takes your roommate part of a day to convert banking software from *ix to Windows.
And that's just extremely bogus.
Kinda worthless, IMO, if you couldn't do something like play a steady game of WoW while riding a bus.
But of course, since we all know that the only reason for getting BB is for playing WoW, right?
Grow up, get a real job, move out of your parents' basement.
a) last time i checked, sparc was supported by linux
Linux the kernel supports SPARC, but so what? It's apps that are important, and not all apps run well on Sparc. Has to do with gcc, I think. The debian-sparc ml would give more detail.
Actually, that's my roommate's job. When he does conversions, he routinely finishes early and spends the afternoon getting free beer from his boss.
(a) You're smoking dope, and (b) have not a fscking clue as to the complexity of converting a large commercial system from one platform to another.
And no, migrating a DNS or Web server from Windows to Linux isn't a 100th the scope of migrating a bank from AIX to Solaris.