Why do you want the kiddies to doubt based on numbers before the numbers are even available?
So you've now decided that I'm not a Luddite?
Why the fuck are you doing this? What is it to you? Why do you want the kiddies to doubt based on numbers before the numbers are even available?
Can't you read? See, I've read waaaaaayyyyy too many articles like this over the decades. Waaaaaayyyyy too rarely do they actually make it out of the lab.
I'm typing this on a Linux-running 6 core machine with 16GB RAM (soon to upgrade to 32) and 8TB HDD. I've telecommuted (as a database administrator) for 17 years, and have had a cable modem for that long (which was as soon as it came to my neighborhood), using DSL the year before that (which was when it came to my neighborhood.
instead of attempting to drive the enthusiasm out of the kiddies here?
Don't ask the hard questions, let the kids wallow in media-hyped unreal enthusiasm? Talk about dishonesty!
(Technically, But how economical is it to modify the existing multi-billion dollar battery factories to make these solid state batteries? is a specific instance of the general Is marginal (using the economic definition of "marginal") progress worth any cost, no matter how high that cost?)
However you didn't write marginal before
This hints that you don't know what the economic term "marginal" means. Tip: it does not mean "a little bit more".
the article suggests the improvement is going to be game changing
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
If I had a nickel for every article claiming "game changing improvements", I'd be a trillionaire traveling the globe in a battery-powered hypersonic flying car who vacations on the Moon and gets there via laser-powered carbon nanotube space elevator. Hint: I'm not, and I don't.
Money doesn't grow on trees. No one's going to finance a factory that costs 10x as much to build batteries with 3x the charge as 20% more discharges. That's not even taking into account how much more toxic waste the new factory discharges.
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Clarify again what my alleged lie is.
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designed deliberately to push an agenda
My agenda is, "game changing hype is bad".
Why do you want the kiddies to doubt based on numbers before the numbers are even available?
So you've now decided that I'm not a Luddite?
Why the fuck are you doing this? What is it to you?
Why do you want the kiddies to doubt based on numbers before the numbers are even available?
Can't you read? See, I've read waaaaaayyyyy too many articles like this over the decades. Waaaaaayyyyy too rarely do they actually make it out of the lab.
since it's not going to have an answer until a process is developed and costed.
Then how do we know that it's a game changer?
See, I've read waaaaaayyyyy too many articles like this over the decades. Waaaaaayyyyy too rarely do they actually make it out of the lab.
That's because I'm jaded, not a Luddite.
Thus, I'm more than skeptical. Kinda like I'm skeptical of "make America great again", and was skeptical of "hope and change".
The last time I met someone acting like you they also went on at great length about healing crystals and pyramid power.
My children are vaccinated, and I rely on Big Pharma to prevent the seizures I'd otherwise have.
No - not there in any way at all.
Sure it is, because it's only viable to convert the factory if the marginal gain in performance is worth the expense of conversion.
Duh.
"marginal" was not even mentioned until...
It was embedded in my original question.
a luddite ideological barrow
I'm typing this on a Linux-running 6 core machine with 16GB RAM (soon to upgrade to 32) and 8TB HDD. I've telecommuted (as a database administrator) for 17 years, and have had a cable modem for that long (which was as soon as it came to my neighborhood), using DSL the year before that (which was when it came to my neighborhood.
instead of attempting to drive the enthusiasm out of the kiddies here?
Don't ask the hard questions, let the kids wallow in media-hyped unreal enthusiasm? Talk about dishonesty!
A bit different to your new one isn't it?
No. They're exactly the same.
(Technically, But how economical is it to modify the existing multi-billion dollar battery factories to make these solid state batteries? is a specific instance of the general Is marginal (using the economic definition of "marginal") progress worth any cost, no matter how high that cost?)
However you didn't write marginal before
This hints that you don't know what the economic term "marginal" means. Tip: it does not mean "a little bit more".
the article suggests the improvement is going to be game changing
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
If I had a nickel for every article claiming "game changing improvements", I'd be a trillionaire traveling the globe in a battery-powered hypersonic flying car who vacations on the Moon and gets there via laser-powered carbon nanotube space elevator. Hint: I'm not, and I don't.
your question along the lines of "but is progress worth it?"
You're close.
Here's my question: Is marginal (using the economic definition of "marginal") progress worth any cost, no matter how high that cost?
That's fundamentally different from "lets milk as much profit as possible from our aging infrastructure".
Quite easily.
Answering a question with a question can be insightful, but in your case it's not.
At some point, if the new technology provides sufficient value, old factories will be upgraded...
That's exactly right.
There is some serious competition in the battery sales world.
Yes, and "costs 10x as much to build batteries with 3x the charge as 20% more discharges" (which was my hypothetical scenario) is not economical.
For some reason, you have this idea that I said not to build the factory.
All I asked was whether it would be economically viable IF very expensive.
(The article didn't say, "about a year". It said "a year".)
At what point does "X months" shift from "about a year" to "not about a year?
Spoken just like Edsel Ford
Spoken like someone who only takes one facile view of very complicated issues.
You answer my question, then I'll answer yours.
Money doesn't grow on trees. No one's going to finance a factory that costs 10x as much to build batteries with 3x the charge as 20% more discharges. That's not even taking into account how much more toxic waste the new factory discharges.
But how economical is it to modify the existing multi-billion dollar battery factories to make these solid state batteries?
But it's much closer to 11 months.
This has nothing to do with significant digits.
Anyway... 11 months is 0.91667 years, and that's a hell of a lot closer to 0.9315 years than it is to 1.0 years.
At what deviation from exactitude does "round" become "wrong"?
Sigh. 11 months (340 days is a hell of a lot closer to that than it is to 12 months) is in no way shape or form "one year".