when they leak information that is just detrimental to the government without a real reason
And much of what was leaked was exactly that, simply embarrassing but not at all unusual. Every country has ambassadors and diplomatic staff that expect to be able to give their private opinion to their employers. Even Australian embassy staff does this, probably in language much more blunt.
The stuff released to date is nothing more than than gossip. There is no point in releasing this.
Why is he holding back the "good stuff" as he claims? Self aggrandizement perhaps? Political Blackmail? A get out of jail free card?
I'm betting he has nothing that would get people killed, other than one drug lord ratting out another.
Exactly. Why bring them into the court when you are on the Jury.
You really don't need a phone in the court when on Jury duty.
There is a phone in the Jury room for out going calls (in most jurisdictions any way unless its a high profile trial) and you can't receive calls either in the Jury room or in court session.
Its usually fine to bring a phone to jury selection, but I've always been instructed to leave the phone in my car once empaneled.
Still this article is about internet research, and covers a time period when smartphones were just starting to become mainstream. Its not so much what jurors do on the phone as it is what they do on their computer in the evening.
Considering the number of trials in the US, (26,948 in State courts in 2005 for example, so throw in federal trials an round it off to 300,000 over the period amounts to about 3/10ths of 1 percent.
While nothing to hand wave away, it still suggests that the problem is tiny, and the vast majority of jurors do their best to follow the rules.
Only the stupid get caught at this. Those that feel that every facet of their life must be tweeted of facebooked or texted somewhere.
Others may do "research" without getting caught.
I don't worry so much about the facebook posters and tweeters (information outbound usually does not damage a trial) as I worry about the clandestine researchers drawing conclusions using internet sources and facts not in evidence.
Well actually, it would seem the overall message and the science will have changed rather significantly if this study proves close to the mark.
With a couple more centuries before dangerous warming takes place the situation changes drastically. Alternative energy supplies and improvements in scrubbing technology have time to advance in two hundred years. (And the increasing cost and scarcity of fossil fuels might have something to do with it as well).
To say nothing of the modeling capability.
(This is not the first suggestion that plant respiration was inadequately modeled, poorly understood, or simply left out all together. Prior objections were shouted down as delusional objections of deniers. But NASA and NOAA (under a democratic president) are harder to silence.)
Increased evaporation from the oceans, and the resultant rain, may also start to arrest desertification, adding to the effect modeled by these studies.
It all hinges on him being a journalist. Therefore I doubt the US would try to extradite him, because the odd of getting a conviction on anything more than receiving stolen property are a toss up at this time.
I've been batting nearly 1000 over the last many decades dismissing each new wiz language that comes along.
(Ok, two failures out of a career.)
So I guess I'll dismiss this one as well.
The problem is that even when a language comes along that is perfectly suited foe some specific task, adopting it means 6 months of writing crappy code because you don't yet understand the language, and 6 years trying to find some one to maintain the system once its completed.
The time is far better spent canning some routines in a main stream language you know well to do those few tasks that the new language excels at.
Its far more portable, maintainable, and understandable.
When your Erlang programmer walks out the door, your system just became unmaintainable.
These were all purloined by an Army Private (some say Sargent). How good can State Department security be is a buck private in the military is reading their cables?
Transparency of all things is not practical.
Do you seriously suggest that our diplomats not report anything that they come in contact with which might be important simply because if it was found out someone's feelings might be hurt?
You find out your neighbor is banging his secretary. Do you bring that up for discussion at the dinner table, the church, or write a letter to the news paper, tell his wife?
Total governmental Transparency you want? Please post a link to your tax records.
Apple lost just about their entire claim against Nokia, when half the patents they were seeking to enforce were declared invalid by the FTC, and the rest dismissed as not being infringed.
It would be interesting to see Apple now try to enforce those patents declared invalid against Motorola et al.
This all started when Apple refused to pay consortium of GSM patent holders fees that all other GSM manufacturers subscribe to, some how feeling the were above the law.
Yeah, lots of people say that: "I've had AT&T for years and never had a problem." But how can you know? You've *never* had a problem? Every cell network has problems. You don't have reception everywhere, none of the networks do. So how much reception is acceptable? Have you ever gone on vacation to somewhere remote and lost reception?
Well, yes, there are some places in the west that are out of AT@T range. You first fall back to Edge, then to GPRS, then sometimes nothing.
But I knew that going in. And Verizon has some of those holes as well. (Far fewer than AT&T, which in turn has far fewer than T-Mobile, Sprint, etc.
But to your main point, You DO know when the network has problems. You pick up our cell and can't make a call. Or you finally drive over a pass and three voice mails come in.
Occasionally you might notice, even in strong 3G areas that calls go direct to voice mail. That's the biggest indicator of a network problem I typically see. Maybe two calls per month go direct to voice mail.
Its not that hard to tell what "Fine" is. If calls don't drop and you can always dial out and get a good clear channel, that defines "Fine" in my book.
And Yeah, FTR, I'm one of those for which AT&T is "fine". My dropped calls disappeared the day I switched to Android from the iPhone.
The iphone experience on CDMA will send lots of those right back to AT&T. It just can't do all the same things that iPhone users have gotten use to being able to do.
You are correct in stating AT&T had issues with the load of iPhone users they got. The cheap infineon chip sets in the first three iPhone releases had them tweaking the network in stupid ways trying to keep the iPhone running.
Meanwhile, Blackberry users in the same time period had nowhere near the problems.
My experience is different. The only place in Seattle I have problems is Safco/Quest during a game. Drop back to Edge, problem solved.
I used to have dropped calls by the airport in SeaTac, but not since I switched to Android from iPhone. Even in the I5 underpass I don't drop calls.
AT&T in NYC and San Francisco may have serious problems, but in Puget sound area, AT&T is solid. If you are still stuck with an iPhone you may still think AT&T sucks, but not more so in Seattle than anywhere else.
Pfft the bars don't mean anything. If they want to present a meaningful comparison, they could show decibels of microvolts emf, microwatts received power, SNR.. Even the bar representation could have been meaningful, if they'd only declare a meaning for it.
More "bars" in more places?! what the hell is that even supposed to mean?
Best as I can tell, iPhone users fret about bars all the time.
Since switching to Android my dropped call rate on ATT has gone to zero, and I never pay any attention to bars at all, because I just never get calls dropped anymore.
FTR: My android reads out actual dBm. But who cares, since the calls don't drop.
My ATT "problems" began when I switched from a Motorola phone to an iPhone. Rare phone specific issues, it has all been browser and apps that just shut off in the middle of use.
My experience anyway.
Hmmm, my ATT problems ENDED when I switched from iPhone to Android.
Yes, Sir, I think we see a pattern developing here.
Profitability has nothing to to with the story at hand.
How much of that profit was made on the back of AT&T?
How much of the network complaints against AT&T are REALLY the fault of the cheap infineon chipset in the iPhones? The mere fact that iPhone users were much less satisfied and rated AT&T much lower than other smartphone owners surely suggests that the iPhone is at least partly to blame.
My dropped call rate has gone to zero since I switched to Android from an iPhone.
So by your own assessment of the plastic explosives, its safe. You are arguing against your own position. The guy lived in the house for years and nothing went off. Its not boobytrapped. Nobody could be that careful for year after year.
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when they leak information that is just detrimental to the government without a real reason
And much of what was leaked was exactly that, simply embarrassing but not at all unusual. Every country has ambassadors and diplomatic staff that expect to be able to give their private opinion to their employers. Even Australian embassy staff does this, probably in language much more blunt.
The stuff released to date is nothing more than than gossip.
There is no point in releasing this.
Why is he holding back the "good stuff" as he claims? Self aggrandizement perhaps? Political Blackmail? A get out of jail free card?
I'm betting he has nothing that would get people killed, other than one drug lord ratting out another.
Wasn't there some aspect of Assange not playing well with others too?
That's what SHE said.
Suggest an alternative.
Paid peers? Paid by Who? Paid How much?
The current system is a terrible one.
Except for all of the other systems.
Perhaps you have a better solution that you have thought through well enough to convince the rest of society?
Exactly. Why bring them into the court when you are on the Jury.
You really don't need a phone in the court when on Jury duty.
There is a phone in the Jury room for out going calls (in most jurisdictions any way unless its a high profile trial) and you can't receive calls either in the Jury room or in court session.
Its usually fine to bring a phone to jury selection, but I've always been instructed to leave the phone in my car once empaneled.
Still this article is about internet research, and covers a time period when smartphones were just starting to become mainstream. Its not so much what jurors do on the phone as it is what they do on their computer in the evening.
Considering the number of trials in the US, (26,948 in State courts in 2005 for example, so throw in federal trials an round it off to 300,000 over the period amounts to about 3/10ths of 1 percent.
While nothing to hand wave away, it still suggests that the problem is tiny, and the vast majority of jurors do their best to follow the rules.
Only the stupid get caught at this. Those that feel that every facet of their life must be tweeted of facebooked or texted somewhere.
Others may do "research" without getting caught.
I don't worry so much about the facebook posters and tweeters (information outbound usually does not damage a trial) as I worry about the clandestine researchers drawing conclusions using internet sources and facts not in evidence.
Yes.
I own several apartment buildings. If something happens, I have to take care of it ASAP.
That thing rings during a trial you will have plenty of time cooling your heels in jail (without a phone) for contempt of court.
You do NOT use a phone when on Jury duty.
Queue the di-hydrogen monoxide posts in 3, 2, 1
Well actually, it would seem the overall message and the science will have changed rather significantly if this study proves close to the mark.
With a couple more centuries before dangerous warming takes place the situation changes drastically. Alternative energy supplies and improvements in scrubbing technology have time to advance in two hundred years. (And the increasing cost and scarcity of fossil fuels might have something to do with it as well).
To say nothing of the modeling capability.
(This is not the first suggestion that plant respiration was inadequately modeled, poorly understood, or simply left out all together. Prior objections were shouted down as delusional objections of deniers. But NASA and NOAA (under a democratic president) are harder to silence.)
Increased evaporation from the oceans, and the resultant rain, may also start to arrest desertification, adding to the effect modeled by these studies.
You have my deepest sympathy.
There is no doubt that he violated a US law (can't speak for Australian law).
The US 1917 Espionage Act is the most recent and most relevant law on the books.
However, it is not at all clear that Assange might not prevail at trial in the US. There is this little matter of the First Amendment.
It all hinges on him being a journalist. Therefore I doubt the US would try to extradite him, because the odd of getting a conviction on anything more than receiving stolen property are a toss up at this time.
I've been batting nearly 1000 over the last many decades dismissing each new wiz language that comes along.
(Ok, two failures out of a career.)
So I guess I'll dismiss this one as well.
The problem is that even when a language comes along that is perfectly suited foe some specific task, adopting it means 6 months of writing crappy code because you don't yet understand the language, and 6 years trying to find some one to maintain the system once its completed.
The time is far better spent canning some routines in a main stream language you know well to do those few tasks that the new language excels at.
Its far more portable, maintainable, and understandable.
When your Erlang programmer walks out the door, your system just became unmaintainable.
[I]t is as much a failure on the part of our national security to protect the information from being leaked in the first place.
Exactly so.
Why aren't heads rolling at the state department?
Why is only one low ranking military misfit under arrest?
Australian Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd, meanwhile, said the people who originally leaked the documents -- not Assange -- are legally liable, and he told Reuters news agency the leaks raised questions about the "adequacy" of U.S. security.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/12/08/1283306/australian-fm-says-us-to-blame.html
What Excessive security?
These were all purloined by an Army Private (some say Sargent). How good can State Department security be is a buck private in the military is reading their cables?
Transparency of all things is not practical.
Do you seriously suggest that our diplomats not report anything that they come in contact with which might be important simply because if it was found out someone's feelings might be hurt?
You find out your neighbor is banging his secretary. Do you bring that up for discussion at the dinner table, the church, or write a letter to the news paper, tell his wife?
Total governmental Transparency you want? Please post a link to your tax records.
I suspect naiveté has gotten the best of you.
So you need 500 extras to hold mirrors...
Why start your recruitment with the President? Wouldn't any junior high science teacher from So Cal be just as effective in obtaining bodies?
Show up on any College campus (bring Kari) and you will easily get 500 volunteers far more likely to be able to follow directions than school kids.
It seems a thin excuse for Obama to get some face time with an educational ruse. Which way did the money flow?
I've drive thru Utah, and you are certainly correct that their coverage is thin there and in Nevada, other than population centers.
Apple lost just about their entire claim against Nokia, when half the patents they were seeking to enforce were declared invalid by the FTC, and the rest dismissed as not being infringed.
It would be interesting to see Apple now try to enforce those patents declared invalid against Motorola et al.
This all started when Apple refused to pay consortium of GSM patent holders fees that all other GSM manufacturers subscribe to, some how feeling the were above the law.
Yeah, lots of people say that: "I've had AT&T for years and never had a problem." But how can you know? You've *never* had a problem? Every cell network has problems. You don't have reception everywhere, none of the networks do. So how much reception is acceptable? Have you ever gone on vacation to somewhere remote and lost reception?
Well, yes, there are some places in the west that are out of AT@T range. You first fall back to Edge, then to GPRS, then sometimes nothing.
But I knew that going in. And Verizon has some of those holes as well. (Far fewer than AT&T, which in turn has far fewer than T-Mobile, Sprint, etc.
But to your main point, You DO know when the network has problems. You pick up our cell and can't make a call. Or you finally drive over a pass and three voice mails come in.
Occasionally you might notice, even in strong 3G areas that calls go direct to voice mail. That's the biggest indicator of a network problem I typically see. Maybe two calls per month go direct to voice mail.
Its not that hard to tell what "Fine" is. If calls don't drop and you can always dial out and get a good clear channel, that defines "Fine" in my book.
And Yeah, FTR, I'm one of those for which AT&T is "fine". My dropped calls disappeared the day I switched to Android from the iPhone.
The iphone experience on CDMA will send lots of those right back to AT&T. It just can't do all the same things that iPhone users have gotten use to being able to do.
You are correct in stating AT&T had issues with the load of iPhone users they got. The cheap infineon chip sets in the first three iPhone releases had them tweaking the network in stupid ways trying to keep the iPhone running.
Meanwhile, Blackberry users in the same time period had nowhere near the problems.
My experience is different. The only place in Seattle I have problems is Safco/Quest during a game. Drop back to Edge, problem solved.
I used to have dropped calls by the airport in SeaTac, but not since I switched to Android from iPhone. Even in the I5 underpass I don't drop calls.
AT&T in NYC and San Francisco may have serious problems, but in Puget sound area, AT&T is solid. If you are still stuck with an iPhone you may still think AT&T sucks, but not more so in Seattle than anywhere else.
Pfft the bars don't mean anything. If they want to present a meaningful comparison, they could show decibels of microvolts emf, microwatts received power, SNR.. Even the bar representation could have been meaningful, if they'd only declare a meaning for it.
More "bars" in more places?! what the hell is that even supposed to mean?
Best as I can tell, iPhone users fret about bars all the time.
Since switching to Android my dropped call rate on ATT has gone to zero, and I never pay any attention to bars at all, because I just never get calls dropped anymore.
FTR: My android reads out actual dBm. But who cares, since the calls don't drop.
My ATT "problems" began when I switched from a Motorola phone to an iPhone. Rare phone specific issues, it has all been browser and apps that just shut off in the middle of use.
My experience anyway.
Hmmm, my ATT problems ENDED when I switched from iPhone to Android.
Yes, Sir, I think we see a pattern developing here.
Profitability has nothing to to with the story at hand.
How much of that profit was made on the back of AT&T?
How much of the network complaints against AT&T are REALLY the fault of the cheap infineon chipset in the iPhones? The mere fact that iPhone users were much less satisfied and rated AT&T much lower than other smartphone owners surely suggests that the iPhone is at least partly to blame.
My dropped call rate has gone to zero since I switched to Android from an iPhone.
So by your own assessment of the plastic explosives, its safe.
You are arguing against your own position.
The guy lived in the house for years and nothing went off. Its not boobytrapped. Nobody could be that careful for year after year.
No, just his history.
He lived there for years and nothing went off.