Isn't this along the same lines as the fears of Google snatching up all the best and brightest of the Computer Scientists from Apple and Microsoft?
While yes, such a concentration of bright people can really lock down the rest of the industry (although not likely), it's also something completely unique that we should really give a chance.
Inventions help people, yes, as with any business involving intellectual property, there is room for abuse, but there is also room for incredible progress. At how many software firms do you bring in brilliant scientists, and vice versa. Cross-applying technology can really help benefit us as a society.
What's the difference between Apple or Microsoft plunging millions of dollars into R&D and then licensing their technology out to other companies? Isn't this exactly the same?
Wake up people, fear mongering about this company is completely misdirected, they have a good opportunity to do a lot of good, the true fear that should be exposed here is the ability to abuse the intellectual property laws in america, IV has nothing to do with it.
Wishful thinking made by someone who clearly hasn't turned on a television in the last 20 years. Just as it had always been, youth culture will reject the rigid demands of old coots like yourself. Just like always, there will be a segment of the youth who will be very responsible and upstanding. And just like always, life will go on and a whole new cadre of old coots will spout the same old nonsense about how the "youth of today" are worse than ever, just as it has always been for thousands of years.
You're so right, I mean, it's a good thing I'm not part of the generation I made mention of. We're the generation that's being left with social security, pollution, and a lot of the problems created by the cold war, reaganomics and not-in-my-backyard syndrome.
Presumably we'll never have a middle ages again, because it's our responsible as a younger generation to learn from the "coots" that came before us, same applies to us, hopefully we'll never have a cold war again.
You're criticism is baseless, people have been evolving socially, it's not "just as it has always been for thousands of years." What a load of shit, we don't tolerate slavery, racism, or feudalism anymore, because we've learned from past mistakes.
Call me an idealist, but I trust that my generation will do the same.
With the focus in the past few decades on feelings, emotions, and our complete obsession with "our inner child." It's not surprising at all, it's been a while since we cared about some responsibility.
There's a reason people are suing everybody, there's a reason tobacco companies have been losing so much money in courts; we're like a cuontry of 8 year olds, always pointing at somebody else in the back of class that through the paper airplane.
That said, I think we're going to see a turn around with the generation in college right now, less divorces, less stupidity because it seems that more and more young people are sick and tied of the bullshit.
I'm sorry mate, but we haven't been a democratic republic since Lincoln, I compell you to find elected officials that have come from anything but wealthy means in the past 100 years.
I really hope there's somebody with a lot of money that can buy this bill through.
The broadcast flag has zero use to the average american, and is nothing but a means of control as to what can be done with broadcast signals in favour of the media corporations. We've acheived a Marxian nightmare, a truly capitalistic soceity;) Our politicians aren't even hiding this anymore, they're in the pockets of corporations, and that's that, get bent, if you don't consume you're obviously a terrorist, or a left-wing nutjob.
To quote Lewis Black, "politicians and corporations have been in bed together our whole lives, they've just stopped hiding it."
Bah, I think I woke up on the wrong side of this democracy. >={
"I have a lot of faith in Apple, but I'll find it very hard to purchase future products if these allegations are true, and the company that Jobs built is unwilling to take steps to ensure good living conditions for their employees."
Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit.
It sounds like you're an american, so I'm going to reply based on that assumption. What kind of shoes do you wear? Most likely they were made in sweatshops. What kind of clothes? Do you eat fruit, ever? Most likely that was picked and processed by low-wage immigrant workers. Do you use any sort of electronics? Guess what, those were made by low wage workers too, probably in sweat shops.
Hate to burst your progressive thinking little bubble, but, somebody who lives in California, will probably have to make more to live than somebody in rural Nebraska, the same applies here. In most counties like this, the major corporation that's got the sweat shops is the best job around.
I'm not saying that I agree with this, but let's be honest, this is not an Apple factory, this is a company that Apple contracts with, because guess what Apple doesn't make the drives, chips, and a lot of other parts that go into their products.
It's too early to be ranting, but let's be honest, in most first world countries, MANY aspects of our lives were produced in third world countries on the backs of sweatshop workers.
You're right, a company can be prosecuted for this.
Microsoft is not a company, go to any state building or federal building in the nation, and find out what they're running. You're talking about a corporation that has settled antitrust lawsuits with licenses and lockin.
If Sony doesn't get it's ass handed to them for rootkits, why would you think Microsoft would receive any punishment at all?
I never mentioned mathematics in the slightest, the concept is to spur critical thinking, which causes the student to figure out a solution, instead of finding an answer.
Critical thinking skills would allow the majority of students to make up their own minds, and evaluate pros and cons in a logical manner of the President's recent movement towards silly amendments, or as to why they should be outraged given the current leniencies afforded corporations, etc.
There is nothing inherently mathematic about critical, and logical thought; but it's still the most important thing one can learn. Once you know how to learn, there is nothing you cannot learn. Period.
I was referring to the College of Engineering you dolt.
I don't care how much critical thinking, and experimentation go into literature courses, but in engineering, you are supposed to think for yourself. It's the basis of engineering as a field.
This isn't trolling or anything, I am still in American public schooling (public uni.), and this quote struck me as odd.
The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own, thus helping children help themselves to learn.
I'm in an engineering degree, and I'm shocked at the lack of this ability in college students at american schools! I'm tickled by the fact that we're so set on helping foreign education, when our own educational system is in dire need of....some bloody education.
By spanning articles over multitudes of pages, you can display more ads, and generate more ad related traffic. That's the only reason most news sites (I hate it too) make things span 3-4 pages for no good reason.
NICTA is pretty good about a sense of humour, in one of their Darbat SConstruct files (scons is a miserable build system, like GNU/Make but with much less cowbell) they have the following at the top of the file:
I've been researching more and more into NICTA's microkernel and virtualization (for my L4::BSD idea) and one thing that is important to understand is that NICTA's development is mainly on ARM, the Kenge toolset, as well as the Iguana OS are both much further along on ARM as opposed to i386
Considering the work that NICTA does with companies that produce embedded hardware like Qualcomm, this isn't surprising, but don't go crazy about this.
Linux development is much more fine tuned on x86, and Kenge/Iguana development is much more fine tuned on ARM; no need to start holy wars here;)
That said, nice work benno, chuck, and gernot (and whomever else I'm forgetting)
You just don't get it, Apple has succeeded because they have what those enterprise software salesdroids call a "solution."
The iPod was popular on it's own at first because it was _simple_ and easy to use, their initial apps for it IMHO sucked miserably. But the iPod integrated with your already existing music library, and syncing everything up was very, very easy.
Now add a couple years, you can choose from a couple different models, all using the same easy to use interface, it still interfaces nicely with iTunes, which runs on Mac/Windows which can rip and organize all your CDs, and sync with your iPod, and hot dog! Now you can buy music straight from withini the same application that you already keep all your music in to begin with!
Don't fool yourself, marketing was a vital role, but don't underscore the brillant move by apple to bring all these music services into iTunes+iPod, because without the whole package you just have something that's smaller than the Nomad Jukebox, lame.;)
I'm not a security professional, but aren't they talking about man in the middle attacks? And then further down in the article, isn't he talking about generic problems with running old, unpatched software on open servers?
I'd say that given that America is the only country with a working scramjet, maybe...we'd head the team? Or it'd be something like the international spacestation project.
The reasons for pooling aren't simply political or otherwise, it's much easier to fund such things between a couple countries working together, as opposed to each on their own (faster results as well, unless you forget to convert from meters to feet)
Hate to squash your obvious anti-american quip here, but we've got the bombs, as well as quite a few brains. As soon as you start to see Germany, Japanese, or Chinese space probes shooting out of the solar system, you can stuff your opinions; there's a reason America asserts its power in this arena, because we've done it already, most sane individuals can recognize that experience is valuable in science, and it's usually the most experienced researcher that heads the research team...
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Isn't this along the same lines as the fears of Google snatching up all the best and brightest of the Computer Scientists from Apple and Microsoft?
While yes, such a concentration of bright people can really lock down the rest of the industry (although not likely), it's also something completely unique that we should really give a chance.
Inventions help people, yes, as with any business involving intellectual property, there is room for abuse, but there is also room for incredible progress. At how many software firms do you bring in brilliant scientists, and vice versa. Cross-applying technology can really help benefit us as a society.
What's the difference between Apple or Microsoft plunging millions of dollars into R&D and then licensing their technology out to other companies? Isn't this exactly the same?
Wake up people, fear mongering about this company is completely misdirected, they have a good opportunity to do a lot of good, the true fear that should be exposed here is the ability to abuse the intellectual property laws in america, IV has nothing to do with it.
It's early on a Sunday morning, I can't be bothered to read the article.
;)
It's counter to all that Slashdot stands for!
Wishful thinking made by someone who clearly hasn't turned on a television in the last 20 years. Just as it had always been, youth culture will reject the rigid demands of old coots like yourself. Just like always, there will be a segment of the youth who will be very responsible and upstanding. And just like always, life will go on and a whole new cadre of old coots will spout the same old nonsense about how the "youth of today" are worse than ever, just as it has always been for thousands of years.
You're so right, I mean, it's a good thing I'm not part of the generation I made mention of. We're the generation that's being left with social security, pollution, and a lot of the problems created by the cold war, reaganomics and not-in-my-backyard syndrome.
Presumably we'll never have a middle ages again, because it's our responsible as a younger generation to learn from the "coots" that came before us, same applies to us, hopefully we'll never have a cold war again.
You're criticism is baseless, people have been evolving socially, it's not "just as it has always been for thousands of years." What a load of shit, we don't tolerate slavery, racism, or feudalism anymore, because we've learned from past mistakes.
Call me an idealist, but I trust that my generation will do the same.
With the focus in the past few decades on feelings, emotions, and our complete obsession with "our inner child." It's not surprising at all, it's been a while since we cared about some responsibility.
There's a reason people are suing everybody, there's a reason tobacco companies have been losing so much money in courts; we're like a cuontry of 8 year olds, always pointing at somebody else in the back of class that through the paper airplane.
That said, I think we're going to see a turn around with the generation in college right now, less divorces, less stupidity because it seems that more and more young people are sick and tied of the bullshit.
I'm sorry mate, but we haven't been a democratic republic since Lincoln, I compell you to find elected officials that have come from anything but wealthy means in the past 100 years.
It's a sparse list.
I really hope there's somebody with a lot of money that can buy this bill through.
;) Our politicians aren't even hiding this anymore, they're in the pockets of corporations, and that's that, get bent, if you don't consume you're obviously a terrorist, or a left-wing nutjob.
The broadcast flag has zero use to the average american, and is nothing but a means of control as to what can be done with broadcast signals in favour of the media corporations. We've acheived a Marxian nightmare, a truly capitalistic soceity
To quote Lewis Black, "politicians and corporations have been in bed together our whole lives, they've just stopped hiding it."
Bah, I think I woke up on the wrong side of this democracy. >={
I thought this was already publicized, Perl & PHP in one script? Isn't that just a brain fuck :)
"I have a lot of faith in Apple, but I'll find it very hard to purchase future products if these allegations are true, and the company that Jobs built is unwilling to take steps to ensure good living conditions for their employees."
Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit.
It sounds like you're an american, so I'm going to reply based on that assumption. What kind of shoes do you wear? Most likely they were made in sweatshops. What kind of clothes? Do you eat fruit, ever? Most likely that was picked and processed by low-wage immigrant workers. Do you use any sort of electronics? Guess what, those were made by low wage workers too, probably in sweat shops.
Hate to burst your progressive thinking little bubble, but, somebody who lives in California, will probably have to make more to live than somebody in rural Nebraska, the same applies here. In most counties like this, the major corporation that's got the sweat shops is the best job around.
I'm not saying that I agree with this, but let's be honest, this is not an Apple factory, this is a company that Apple contracts with, because guess what Apple doesn't make the drives, chips, and a lot of other parts that go into their products.
It's too early to be ranting, but let's be honest, in most first world countries, MANY aspects of our lives were produced in third world countries on the backs of sweatshop workers.
You're right, a company can be prosecuted for this.
Microsoft is not a company, go to any state building or federal building in the nation, and find out what they're running. You're talking about a corporation that has settled antitrust lawsuits with licenses and lockin.
If Sony doesn't get it's ass handed to them for rootkits, why would you think Microsoft would receive any punishment at all?
I never mentioned mathematics in the slightest, the concept is to spur critical thinking, which causes the student to figure out a solution, instead of finding an answer.
Critical thinking skills would allow the majority of students to make up their own minds, and evaluate pros and cons in a logical manner of the President's recent movement towards silly amendments, or as to why they should be outraged given the current leniencies afforded corporations, etc.
There is nothing inherently mathematic about critical, and logical thought; but it's still the most important thing one can learn. Once you know how to learn, there is nothing you cannot learn. Period.
I was referring to the College of Engineering you dolt.
I don't care how much critical thinking, and experimentation go into literature courses, but in engineering, you are supposed to think for yourself. It's the basis of engineering as a field.
Get a grip man.
This isn't trolling or anything, I am still in American public schooling (public uni.), and this quote struck me as odd.
The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own, thus helping children help themselves to learn.
I'm in an engineering degree, and I'm shocked at the lack of this ability in college students at american schools! I'm tickled by the fact that we're so set on helping foreign education, when our own educational system is in dire need of....some bloody education.
Presumably you can only really vote democratic.. ;)
:)
since it's the democratic proce... oh nevermind
You simple, simple man.
By spanning articles over multitudes of pages, you can display more ads, and generate more ad related traffic. That's the only reason most news sites (I hate it too) make things span 3-4 pages for no good reason.
NICTA is pretty good about a sense of humour, in one of their Darbat SConstruct files (scons is a miserable build system, like GNU/Make but with much less cowbell) they have the following at the top of the file:
SetOption('implicit_cache', 0)
#blah
"""
AHRRRRRRRR!
"""
Import("*")
Rumour has it, it's to make scons work correctly, oops.
I've been researching more and more into NICTA's microkernel and virtualization (for my L4::BSD idea) and one thing that is important to understand is that NICTA's development is mainly on ARM, the Kenge toolset, as well as the Iguana OS are both much further along on ARM as opposed to i386
;)
Considering the work that NICTA does with companies that produce embedded hardware like Qualcomm, this isn't surprising, but don't go crazy about this.
Linux development is much more fine tuned on x86, and Kenge/Iguana development is much more fine tuned on ARM; no need to start holy wars here
That said, nice work benno, chuck, and gernot (and whomever else I'm forgetting)
You just don't get it, Apple has succeeded because they have what those enterprise software salesdroids call a "solution."
;)
The iPod was popular on it's own at first because it was _simple_ and easy to use, their initial apps for it IMHO sucked miserably. But the iPod integrated with your already existing music library, and syncing everything up was very, very easy.
Now add a couple years, you can choose from a couple different models, all using the same easy to use interface, it still interfaces nicely with iTunes, which runs on Mac/Windows which can rip and organize all your CDs, and sync with your iPod, and hot dog! Now you can buy music straight from withini the same application that you already keep all your music in to begin with!
Don't fool yourself, marketing was a vital role, but don't underscore the brillant move by apple to bring all these music services into iTunes+iPod, because without the whole package you just have something that's smaller than the Nomad Jukebox, lame.
I'm not a security professional, but aren't they talking about man in the middle attacks? And then further down in the article, isn't he talking about generic problems with running old, unpatched software on open servers?
but honestly, is there anything a bit of courteous knocking on the right door can't fix?
This seems like another bad-copy of something Google is doing.
Google Summer of Code: practically any open source project, involving any components you choose, $4500
MS Summ3r 0f C0d3: their shared source project, involving components they choose, some electronics that don't pay rent or tuition.
Gee, what a deal.
Because if the military and the social security system have taught us anything
it's that you can fix a bureaucracy by throwing more bureaucracy at it...
If they use a moderation system similar to slashdot's, there's no way it can fail!
;)
Finally, a fair, completely unbiased way to moderate things...just like on Wikipedia
A beowulf cluster of condescending comments used to assert one's superiority to another?
;)
On slashdot? Naaaahhhhh
I'm not sure how this got modded up, just a quick Google search reveals that FreeBSd clustering is very doable.
Check out LAM/MPI or see pages by people who've done it
It's a Dennis Leary reference silly.
I'd say that given that America is the only country with a working scramjet, maybe...we'd head the team? Or it'd be something like the international spacestation project.
The reasons for pooling aren't simply political or otherwise, it's much easier to fund such things between a couple countries working together, as opposed to each on their own (faster results as well, unless you forget to convert from meters to feet)
Hate to squash your obvious anti-american quip here, but we've got the bombs, as well as quite a few brains. As soon as you start to see Germany, Japanese, or Chinese space probes shooting out of the solar system, you can stuff your opinions; there's a reason America asserts its power in this arena, because we've done it already, most sane individuals can recognize that experience is valuable in science, and it's usually the most experienced researcher that heads the research team...