I found myself staring at my blank monitor yesterday after booting the Edgy LiveCD on my very standard PC (SuSE runs fine on it and so do other Live Distros). Tried everything till I ended up waiting for the boot process to finish, switched to a terminal, reconfigured xserver-xorg and restarted GDM.
HOW THE FLYING FRAG IS A NORMAL USER GOING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS ONE THEN? I'M ASKING THE FRAGGING DEVELOPERS!
And this time I'm really mad at those idiots, because this wasn't the first time this happened, just have a look at the forums...
On another note:
I have a Ralink RT61 Wireless Card....THERE ARE OPEN-SOURCE DRIVERS OUT THERE FOR THE THING, YOU IDIOTS! But now, YOU had to go and FRAGG the stuff up. So you did with countless other drivers, even Intel drivers have stopped working. Now this is a disgrace, it really is.
I'm a freelance IT-Teacher, I've been teaching Linux Admins for the last 8 years and I know just every distribution under the sun, I make buckets of money with consultations but I would never recommend a Linux Distro like this for Desktop purposes.
So Mr. Shuttleworth, sit yourself down and develop a QA programm and whack the programmers heads, as long as you are shelling out money for the thing, you might as well get into control of it. If it means hurting some egos? Go with it, and hurt them real good.
If you have your hardware shit together, THEN and only then, can you start thinking about making the darn thing beautiful.
this is kinda stupid, you know.
You should not try and enforce software of any kind on people. Anything goes wrong, they will be blaming the technician and therefore you get a very bad rep by word-of-mouth.
And XMMS is no in way comparable to the pice of work Winamp is, there isn't even a media library. If you really want to show of, show them Amarok.
Otherwise, if you constantly disinfect other peoples desktops, show them Firefox and ask, whether they'd like to use it. Install a few extensions (Adblock, Flashblock etc...) just to show them how quiet the web can be.
Explain about the Auto Update function Microsoft and why it is valuable to them.
Try to educate them a little at a time, but don`t shove software down their throats.
Excuse me, but that is pure BS. In Germany the voting booths are open till 6pm, and we have the first predictions by 6.01. And you know what? They are very accurate.
I was teaching a class of Fujitsu-Siemens Engineers the last two days, and they were from the QA-Department. Apparently they are preparing for DualCore Itanium Processors and wanted to know about Kernel compiling. So first (these were people from Solaris and Unix Worlds) they found out, that they had to download 40MB of Kernel (the classroom only had a 1.5DSL connection and there were 6 of them), but then confusion reigned, about what to do with the kernel...As they were plodding through Menuconfig, we tried to streamline the new Kernel a bit.
After configuration and installation we then tried to boot the damn thing, but one error kept popping up VFS: unable to mount xx:xx
Now, they were a bit angered and confused about this, but then we did not find out, how to remedy this. In the end it was a post we found, that explained, that the fricking "Initial Ramdisk support" had to go, and that the filesystem and chipset driver had to be built-in.
As these things go, I noticed, that almost every option in the Kernel gets compiled as module these days, and the Distributors are heavily relying on the Initrd Images.
But all this cruft was confusing a bunch of engineers and the one comment i got was: "I'd hate to send one of our costumers through Menuconfig."
Wireless LAN working out-of-the-box?
Does Bluetooth work? How about USB-to-Bluetooth, does that work right away?
You know what, my DVD-Burner came with Pinnacle Instant-DVD and the full Nero suit. Now that is Software usable for CD/DVD burning. I can even let the Software do the recoding and it's a no brainer.
I don't think Linux is anywhere near this level of sophistication, and won't be for a long time to come.
But, hey, don't flame me, i'm a Sysadmin and besides FreeBSD i use Linux for my server boxes.
And the political pissing contest goes on and on and on.
Wer zuspät kommt, den bestraft das Leben, he woho is late gets punished by life....
Honestly, they are too late..
ah, yes, the 911 comission. thats like asking the devil about evil deeds, isn't it? but then, americans have a long history of lying to themselves, so nevermind.
We have a system called "SCHUFA" and they collect everything financial about you.
Every Credit Card, every Bank Account, just about everything that has to do with your finances.
"How could that be bad?" you ask?. Easy. Get into trouble (Credit rates delayed, Credit Card cancelled, Wrong Information entered into their system [it happened]) and BINGO, now more money from the bank. In fact, no more Bankaccount. Yes, they can deny you the right to have a Bankaccount based upon a statement from the people at the "SCHUFA".
And it just takes 3 years to get records cleared from the statements.
Still not bad enough? You have to sign a statement for having you information and personal data transmitted to SCHUFA everytime you want something like...a telephone or change your ISP. Guess what happens if you get a negative report? Right.
And last, they invented a scoring system...based upon statistical data. Living in a bad neighburhood? Negative Points in the soring system. Had an accident some time ago, maybe even your fault? More negative points. So the they assess you, and can deny a credit for example, just because you live in the wrong area.
You see, this is happening all over the world, and I don't think anyone can or will stop it. It'll get much worse before it might get better.
As much as i hate to correct people, but THERE IS NO AL QEADA! Period. You know, what FOX doesn't tell you? AL QAEDA is a list of people going to training camps. They didn't have any way of tracking people, so they used lists (of paper) and AL QAEDA actually means "The List", yeah, huh, very imaginative.
Just because your government needs an excuse to intern mid-eastern-looking guys it needed a name, and this came up.
As for Osama, he's redundant. He's just a pawn in this games and catching him won't do anything at all.
>So there you have it, Linux on the desktop really >didn't go that far this year IMHO. You can waste >your mod points modding this down but a >intelligent reply would be much better.
Actually, I was going to mod this up, just because you summed everything up quite nicely.
I'm working as Admin and Consultant for a German Company and we're exclusively going for Linux, but until Open/Star Office went Gold this year, we wouldn't even talk about the Desktop. Now that this is finally changing, yeah, we all would like to see the Linux Desktop evolve, finally, into something usable for Joe Home-User.
And I do know, there's going to be someone saying: "Doh, Linux has been working for me alright since (insert Date - 100years here)." Yes, we all know that, but until I can take my XIII CD's and just install and play away on Linux, it aint there yet.
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This will be 150 licenses not being renewed next year. I am tired of their crappy AV programs anyway.
Hey, i just had a shower!
and he should stay away from aircraft for the time being...
I found myself staring at my blank monitor yesterday after booting the Edgy LiveCD on my very standard PC (SuSE runs fine on it and so do other Live Distros).
Tried everything till I ended up waiting for the boot process to finish, switched to a terminal, reconfigured xserver-xorg and restarted GDM.
HOW THE FLYING FRAG IS A NORMAL USER GOING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS ONE THEN? I'M ASKING THE FRAGGING DEVELOPERS!
And this time I'm really mad at those idiots, because this wasn't the first time this happened, just have a look at the forums...
On another note:
I have a Ralink RT61 Wireless Card....THERE ARE OPEN-SOURCE DRIVERS OUT THERE FOR THE THING, YOU IDIOTS! But now, YOU had to go and FRAGG the stuff up. So you did with countless other drivers, even Intel drivers have stopped working. Now this is a disgrace, it really is.
I'm a freelance IT-Teacher, I've been teaching Linux Admins for the last 8 years and I know just every distribution under the sun, I make buckets of money with consultations but I would never recommend a Linux Distro like this for Desktop purposes.
So Mr. Shuttleworth, sit yourself down and develop a QA programm and whack the programmers heads, as long as you are shelling out money for the thing, you might as well get into control of it. If it means hurting some egos? Go with it, and hurt them real good.
If you have your hardware shit together, THEN and only then, can you start thinking about making the darn thing beautiful.
You must be delusional...
The guy leading the UN Inspection Team stepped down from office because of this scandal.
The UN Team found no evidence whatsoever of WMDs in Iraq.
Next time ask yourself where you get you information from, hopefully not Fox-News.
hmmm,
there's going to be a lot of right-wing christian zealots winding up in system then...
this is kinda stupid, you know.
You should not try and enforce software of any kind on people. Anything goes wrong, they will be blaming the technician and therefore you get a very bad rep by word-of-mouth. And XMMS is no in way comparable to the pice of work Winamp is, there isn't even a media library. If you really want to show of, show them Amarok. Otherwise, if you constantly disinfect other peoples desktops, show them Firefox and ask, whether they'd like to use it. Install a few extensions (Adblock, Flashblock etc...) just to show them how quiet the web can be. Explain about the Auto Update function Microsoft and why it is valuable to them. Try to educate them a little at a time, but don`t shove software down their throats.
na, xtube.com is miles better
What is a "netscape"?! And what has it got to do with the intarnet?
Excuse me, but that is pure BS. In Germany the voting booths are open till 6pm, and we have the first predictions by 6.01. And you know what? They are very accurate.
Agreed, totally.
I was teaching a class of Fujitsu-Siemens Engineers the last two days, and they were from the QA-Department.
Apparently they are preparing for DualCore Itanium Processors and wanted to know about Kernel compiling.
So first (these were people from Solaris and Unix Worlds) they found out, that they had to download 40MB of Kernel (the classroom only had a 1.5DSL connection and there were 6 of them), but then confusion reigned, about what to do with the kernel...As they were plodding through Menuconfig, we tried to streamline the new Kernel a bit.
After configuration and installation we then tried to boot the damn thing, but one error kept popping up
VFS: unable to mount xx:xx
Now, they were a bit angered and confused about this, but then we did not find out, how to remedy this.
In the end it was a post we found, that explained, that the fricking "Initial Ramdisk support" had to go, and that the filesystem and chipset driver had to be built-in.
As these things go, I noticed, that almost every option in the Kernel gets compiled as module these days, and the Distributors are heavily relying on the Initrd Images.
But all this cruft was confusing a bunch of engineers and the one comment i got was: "I'd hate to send one of our costumers through Menuconfig."
why don't i have mod points when a post that good comes on?
Well, it certainly had the "click-me" effect.
As the Server found out...albeit too late *g*
Linking to "X Window Eye Candy" Videos on the ./ Frontpage...that's like posting free porn.
You people are crazy. That poor server...
You know, "Joysticks" and "Digital" creates a very .. uum.. interesting image.
Anyway, Microsoft, your bad. You were developing some good hardware there, how did you miss this one?
Wireless LAN working out-of-the-box?
Does Bluetooth work? How about USB-to-Bluetooth, does that work right away?
You know what, my DVD-Burner came with Pinnacle Instant-DVD and the full Nero suit. Now that is Software usable for CD/DVD burning. I can even let the Software do the recoding and it's a no brainer.
I don't think Linux is anywhere near this level of sophistication, and won't be for a long time to come.
But, hey, don't flame me, i'm a Sysadmin and besides FreeBSD i use Linux for my server boxes.
>>And it resolves dependencies without asking for permission.
Yeah, right, resolving dependencies under Windows is a major bitch, I tell you.
And the political pissing contest goes on and on and on. Wer zuspät kommt, den bestraft das Leben, he woho is late gets punished by life ....
Honestly, they are too late..
ah, yes, the 911 comission. thats like asking the devil about evil deeds, isn't it? but then, americans have a long history of lying to themselves, so nevermind.
you will never see that person again...ever
maybe you people should check on how the nazis gained control. but then, it's allready too late.
Every Credit Card, every Bank Account, just about everything that has to do with your finances.
"How could that be bad?" you ask?. Easy.
Get into trouble (Credit rates delayed, Credit Card cancelled, Wrong Information entered into their system [it happened]) and BINGO, now more money from the bank.
In fact, no more Bankaccount. Yes, they can deny you the right to have a Bankaccount based upon a statement from the people at the "SCHUFA".
And it just takes 3 years to get records cleared from the statements.
Still not bad enough? You have to sign a statement for having you information and personal data transmitted to SCHUFA everytime you want something like...a telephone or change your ISP. Guess what happens if you get a negative report? Right.
And last, they invented a scoring system...based upon statistical data.
Living in a bad neighburhood? Negative Points in the soring system.
Had an accident some time ago, maybe even your fault? More negative points.
So the they assess you, and can deny a credit for example, just because you live in the wrong area.
You see, this is happening all over the world, and I don't think anyone can or will stop it. It'll get much worse before it might get better.
Cheers Jens
"secret" url?
man get some serious brains. you go to jabber.org and find the link on the left navigation side.
aint no secret here, dumbass.
You know, what FOX doesn't tell you? AL QAEDA is a list of people going to training camps.
They didn't have any way of tracking people, so they used lists (of paper) and AL QAEDA actually means "The List", yeah, huh, very imaginative.
Just because your government needs an excuse to intern mid-eastern-looking guys it needed a name, and this came up.
As for Osama, he's redundant. He's just a pawn in this games and catching him won't do anything at all.
and you too can find out about servers supporting msn gateways by going here:
http://www.jabber.org/user/publicservers.php
and next time you come running and whining, try to get a clue first.
>So there you have it, Linux on the desktop really >didn't go that far this year IMHO. You can waste >your mod points modding this down but a >intelligent reply would be much better. :)
Actually, I was going to mod this up, just because you summed everything up quite nicely.
I'm working as Admin and Consultant for a German Company and we're exclusively going for Linux, but until Open/Star Office went Gold this year, we wouldn't even talk about the Desktop. Now that this is finally changing, yeah, we all would like to see the Linux Desktop evolve, finally, into something usable for Joe Home-User.
And I do know, there's going to be someone saying: "Doh, Linux has been working for me alright since (insert Date - 100years here)." Yes, we all know that, but until I can take my XIII CD's and just install and play away on Linux, it aint there yet.
Thanks for listening in