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Now that I read it over, it's worse than technical jargon!!! It was in reply to a post made by "mister-entp" http://slashdot.org/comments.plsid= 67992&cid=62317 71
This is kind of getting off-topic, but Myers-Briggs or the MBTI is a method of testing people's psychological preferences, mostly used by career counsellors and psychologists. It helps define basic personality characteristics of a person, and can often be used to find out how well people will work in a team together or interact.
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N.D. is a title (Naturopathic Doctor in Canada) -- a BSc is required, and then four years at a naturopathic college at @ $15,000 per year. (could be 5 years, but I can't remember at the moment) Visits are normally about $100 per 1/2 hour consultation.
It's very possible the body will stop producing certain enzymes once supplementation begins, I don't know the technical process and don't have the qualifications to explain all of it. I'm lactose intolerant, and taking milk causes major havoc on upper GI, not to mention gas and bloating -- lactase enzymes help greatly with this, but the best thing is of course to avoid milk. My personal experience suggests supplementing with digestive enzymes has assisted my lactose intolerance and made it bearable for moderate milk intake, but this will again vary greatly from person to person. I believe there is a difference between pancreatic enzymes and general-use digestive enzymes, but further research on this is probably in order. I have no real digestive upset from vitamins or medication -- most of them are gelatin capsules, very little irritation. (Other than the fatty acids, such as CLA, Omega-3, Vitamin E)
Yes, of course the best thing would be not to eat the food, but we are all human, and don't have unlimited willpower.
The problem with the system is there is no one person who knows everything about the full medical spectrum. A doctor will have knowledge on prescription, patented medication, whereas a naturopath specializes in medication that, most of the time, cannot be patented, and has less negative side-effects in general, but not always. The patent requirement for the conventional medical system is a great limitation, since research will often not be performed on non-patentable solutions due to limited return on investment.
Consider this scenario: someone sees a naturopath regarding a digestive problem, they will give them a solution to fix it, but it may also require prescription medication to resolve the issue, so the person goes on with the symptoms, and eventually develops an ulcer. Likewise, someone sees an M.D. for digestive problems, puts them on Prilosec (omeprazole), and they need to take it for the rest of their lives, and they just live with the food allergies that are the root of the problem, and potentially get esophagal cancer because the drug is merely masking the symptoms by reducing the acidity of the stomach.
This is where the knowledge gap resides. No one party knows how to fix the entire system, so it is chaos unless you can synthesize knowledge from both parties and come up with your own conclusion using both approaches.
See an M.D., see an N.D. -- no one perspective is completely correct.
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Your Name inspired me here to add further comments on the whole thing. . . I am now considered an xNxP, with an equal Introvert / Extrovert preference, very high intuitive preference, equal Thinking / Feeling preference, and a moderate Perceiving preference.
Prior to anything, my score was INTP, being a high introvert, high intuitive, low thinking, and low perceiving preference. When adding in the 5-HTP, it massively changed my Introverted preference to be more extroverted, and eventually I ended up in the middle about a year later. Not that one or the other is good or bad, it's just interesting. . . The Introverted preference was probably just due to more social anxiety.
There is a high correlation for ADD / ADHD / bipolar and people with high Intuitive and Perceiving preferences, and a higher Extroverted tendency for bipolars when they are on a high. Try googleizing something like "myers briggs adhd" and maybe some hits will show.....
The test at www.humanmetrics.com seems to be reasonably accurate compared to other tests I've taken with counsellors, but consistently scores more intuitive than reality. (Well, now I know how the tests work, they are kind of useless!!!)
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This *IS* the sunniest part of Canada, sadly to say! It's about high 70's right now (farenheight), 23C, about average for June, but January - April are pretty brutal.
Maybe after (if) I get my degree, it'll allow travelling in other countries and easier access to a green card.
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Who knows -- probably somewhere in the middle between ADHD and bipolar. The lows I've experienced haven't been that bad since starting 5-HTP, and it would fit the diagnostic criteria more for cyclothymia than bipolar.
Here's the deal. . . I feel great with who I am, felt good before, but feel in some senses I was inhibited before learning this degree of knowledge. Self esteem is not tied to this.
Some people see the world as ultimate complexity, some people see it as ultimate simplicity. I fall in the former camp.
For instance, I sucked at any formalized education system, namely high school and college. Grades were never a strong suit, but I could understand anything if I put enough effort and was interested in it enough. With minimized anxiety, stable moods, I now have the ability to pursue further what my ambitions were in the past, and this means a hell of a lot.
Sure, maybe I'd be O.K. with a combination of Paxil / Wellbutrin / Depakote, but not at my best. Or, I could cut most of it it out, stick with a multi-vitamin, fish oils, and most of the stuff would be fine too. Or, not do anything at all (because doing something about a problem would make you a hypochondriac) and continue to live life, make behavioral changes, but never have the opportunities to truly pursue one's dreams.
Exercise makes an extreme difference -- if I had the time on a daily basis, it would cut the list in half, as a minimum.
"Natural" does mean dick! I only offer these opinions as mere personal experiences, not that it is necessarily the right route to go, but merely to give back knowledge to the people on the process and what various results of each step were -- not to replicate the equation.
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Believe me, it took forever, like huge research. . . A few beers has a great effect, but anything more causes drunkenness, and more highs and lows.
Pot never worked out that well for me -- just made me stupid, too mellow and low, although it works for a lot of people with racing minds.
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I completely agree with you, just because it's "natural", doesn't mean it's safe. There aren't any herbs in my regimen, other than ginkgo biloba -- but anything in excess causes problems.
If I don't take the regimen for a day, no biggie. I've missed a day, but probably wouldn't want to miss two days or the mood swings and anxiety would probably perk up mildly again. With treating using EPA / DHA instead of a mood stabilizer such as Depakote / Epival / Divalproex Sodium, I find it more of a long-term effect, not like if I miss a dose I go off the wall.
I've had the vitamins / minerals reviewed with a naturopath, done some basic bloodwork, etc., but most of the stuff is benign in the doses I'm taking.
The medical system in Canada is far from ideal. Actually seeing a specialist, let alone one who cares, takes forever, and in the end, they don't seem objective to all of the information.
My experience with this is as follows. . . Went back to my doctor to renew a prescription of Paxil that he didn't fill, as he was too busy to make the initial appointment within a two-month period, but he found the dose too low, and not an "effective dose" -- textbook thinking. I mentioned it addressed the anxiety, but left me feeling numb and dopey. Went on Effexor, made it completely worse, didn't leave the house for about two weeks. Painstakingly switched back to Paxil, went through the withdrawal effects of Effexor, including nasty dizzy spells.
My doctor is aware of the vitamin and supplement regimen, and in the last appointment, finally seemed supportive of it. Obviously, as an M.D., anything more than the R.D.I. or R.D.A. is beyond what anyone needs. For instance, I occasionally take an additional vitamin B6 supplement for a few days when my wrists flare up with more acute carpal tunnel, kicks it right in the butt. This could be considered a vitamin deficiency, but from a conventional wisdom, anything above the RDA is a waste or harmful.
To be honest, the Paxil and SSRIs made the mood swings much worse rather than better, there is much documentation on SSRIs causing rapid cycling. In excess, 5-HTP and Tyrosine can probably cause a similar effect, but not to the same degree, due to saturation of the enzymes that convert them from precursors to actual neurotransmitters. (Both Vitamin B6-dependent enzymes.)
With exercise every three days, including weight training and cardio, I've never felt better and more stable in my life.
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I used to take acidophilus at one time -- my naturopath initially prescribed it to get over the hump and get the digestive system back in order. Other than that, I've been taking a broad-spectrum digestive enzyme that helps with the nasty meals that none of us should eat! IB-ZYME from Alpha Sciences Laboratories seems to be of great assistance occasionally.
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Makes complete sense the tie to sleep apnea.
Low blood oxygen levels would be my highest worry for you. Aerobic exercise and somewhat of a supplement regimen may work, only trial-and-error will tell. Ginkgo biloba increases circulation. A drug called "Hydergine" may be of interest, as it is a vasodilator, meaning it dilates the arteries, specifically those to the brain. If you have nasty allergies or sinus / nasal congestion, it's contraindicated, as it makes congestion worse. It can be purchased at www.qhi.co.uk.
I also was exercising every 3rd day with great results, but fell off the bandwagon recently with a nasty cold flu -- probably starting back up this week. Exercise is the best antidepressant.
Maybe adding the mystery meat increased your levels of fatty acids, and it is more of a fatty acid deficiency? There are various products that may be worth toying with, but I'd try the EPA / DHA combo in a high dose before any of them. The CLA may be worth testing for a 4-day period for the fog, the results are very quick if this is the ailment.
Definitely the Tyrosine would make sense in the morning. Even 1000mg or more may be warranted -- play with the dosage, and see how it does for you.
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I felt a personal need to reply to this posting, as it mentions many things I have tweaked within the last six months. Throughout my life, most of my symptoms persisted of bouts of hyperactivity per day including super-human concentration, followed by huge crashes and lapses of concentration, and the complete ability to think, with extreme anxiety thrown into the equation. Just within the last year have I fully noticed the mood swings, and how low I could get in the winter months, being in Canada around Toronto area -- similar in geographic location to Detroit and Buffalo.
1998 - added the minor things, like multi-vitamin, extra B vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, ginkgo biloba, this was about 4 years ago, and these additions just barely helped me cope. Sleep was still a great issue, with it normally taking two hours to go to sleep at night 1999 - added melatonin to the mix, nightly took 3mg, switched jobs, quit working at a systems integrator (tech work, systems and network support on the road) to join a chain of long-term care homes as their regional technical support Fall 2001 - started seeing a "naturopath", drastically changed diet, followed "Blood Type Diet", recommended from the book "Eat Right for Your Type", amazing results, super high energy (probably a manic episode), but still the anxiety and sleeping issues persisted, added Alpha Lipoic Acid to assist the liver and as a potent antioxidant Winter 2001 - added 5-HTP, fairly high doses, around 500mg per day Spring 2002 - cut down on the 5-HTP, limited it to 200mg per day, added Piracetam, thinking clearer than ever March 2002 - went to a corporate conference, ate all of those sweets and stuff that they give you that weren't on my diet, experienced the worst brain fog in my life, saw my chiropractor the next day for an adjustment, got in a conversation about feeling "fogged out", he suggested CLA, amazing results, eliminated the fog! Summer 2002 - cut down 5-HTP to 150mg per day, added L-Tyrosine to the mix, it gave me more of my personality back, strongly recommended over stimulants, as it helps long-term even after cessation of usage Fall 2002 - blood type diet slips really hard, the 5 pints a day are getting in the way of it. . . at this point, not taking any 5-HTP or melatonin, flying really high, going out all of the time, getting 4 - 6 hours sleep per night, have never thought clearer in my life. Started further extensive reading on 5-HTP, Tyrosine, mood disorders, ADD / ADHD, bipolar, etc., had inklings I was cyclothymic, a mild version of bipolar disorder December 2002 - had been going downhill for the last bit of November, honestly thought there was a more serious problem, anxiety flared up again, saw a doctor, started on Paxil at 10mg per day, zapped all of the life out of me, dropped it down to 5mg per day, ceased taking 5-HTP due to concerns of potential serotinin syndrome or overload with SSRI Christmas 2002 - crashed out completely, nasty family Christmas sucked all of the life out of me, I had been going downhill for the month of December Mid January 2003 - Paxil was not performing for the depression, I had since stopped taking anything to change mood, such as Tyrosine, 5-HTP, started on 750mg per day of Depakote/Epival, took a real edge off, minimized long-term mood swings and mood / energy level changes in the day February 2003 - the first doctor didn't agree I should be on Paxil, as it didn't address the attention symptoms, so he cut it out, and added Effexor SR in it's place, an SSNRI (Selective Serotonin Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor) at 37.5 per day for a week, and then 75mg for three weeks Late February 2003 - feeling so flatlined it's not even funny, no desire for anything remotely social, have been at home now for two weeks straight not moving off the couch, getting up only when desperately needed for work, not returning any phone messages, voice mail box full! March 2003 - recontinued the Paxil at 5mg, much more personality back, sold my house, moved back in with my parents (lovely...
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Now that I read it over, it's worse than technical jargon!!! It was in reply to a post made by "mister-entp"= 67992&cid=62317 71
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This is kind of getting off-topic, but Myers-Briggs or the MBTI is a method of testing people's psychological preferences, mostly used by career counsellors and psychologists. It helps define basic personality characteristics of a person, and can often be used to find out how well people will work in a team together or interact.
N.D. is a title (Naturopathic Doctor in Canada) -- a BSc is required, and then four years at a naturopathic college at @ $15,000 per year. (could be 5 years, but I can't remember at the moment) Visits are normally about $100 per 1/2 hour consultation.
It's very possible the body will stop producing certain enzymes once supplementation begins, I don't know the technical process and don't have the qualifications to explain all of it. I'm lactose intolerant, and taking milk causes major havoc on upper GI, not to mention gas and bloating -- lactase enzymes help greatly with this, but the best thing is of course to avoid milk. My personal experience suggests supplementing with digestive enzymes has assisted my lactose intolerance and made it bearable for moderate milk intake, but this will again vary greatly from person to person. I believe there is a difference between pancreatic enzymes and general-use digestive enzymes, but further research on this is probably in order. I have no real digestive upset from vitamins or medication -- most of them are gelatin capsules, very little irritation. (Other than the fatty acids, such as CLA, Omega-3, Vitamin E)
Yes, of course the best thing would be not to eat the food, but we are all human, and don't have unlimited willpower.
The problem with the system is there is no one person who knows everything about the full medical spectrum. A doctor will have knowledge on prescription, patented medication, whereas a naturopath specializes in medication that, most of the time, cannot be patented, and has less negative side-effects in general, but not always. The patent requirement for the conventional medical system is a great limitation, since research will often not be performed on non-patentable solutions due to limited return on investment.
Consider this scenario: someone sees a naturopath regarding a digestive problem, they will give them a solution to fix it, but it may also require prescription medication to resolve the issue, so the person goes on with the symptoms, and eventually develops an ulcer. Likewise, someone sees an M.D. for digestive problems, puts them on Prilosec (omeprazole), and they need to take it for the rest of their lives, and they just live with the food allergies that are the root of the problem, and potentially get esophagal cancer because the drug is merely masking the symptoms by reducing the acidity of the stomach.
This is where the knowledge gap resides. No one party knows how to fix the entire system, so it is chaos unless you can synthesize knowledge from both parties and come up with your own conclusion using both approaches.
See an M.D., see an N.D. -- no one perspective is completely correct.
Your Name inspired me here to add further comments on the whole thing. . . I am now considered an xNxP, with an equal Introvert / Extrovert preference, very high intuitive preference, equal Thinking / Feeling preference, and a moderate Perceiving preference.
Prior to anything, my score was INTP, being a high introvert, high intuitive, low thinking, and low perceiving preference. When adding in the 5-HTP, it massively changed my Introverted preference to be more extroverted, and eventually I ended up in the middle about a year later. Not that one or the other is good or bad, it's just interesting. . . The Introverted preference was probably just due to more social anxiety.
There is a high correlation for ADD / ADHD / bipolar and people with high Intuitive and Perceiving preferences, and a higher Extroverted tendency for bipolars when they are on a high. Try googleizing something like "myers briggs adhd" and maybe some hits will show.....
The test at www.humanmetrics.com seems to be reasonably accurate compared to other tests I've taken with counsellors, but consistently scores more intuitive than reality. (Well, now I know how the tests work, they are kind of useless!!!)
This *IS* the sunniest part of Canada, sadly to say! It's about high 70's right now (farenheight), 23C, about average for June, but January - April are pretty brutal.
Maybe after (if) I get my degree, it'll allow travelling in other countries and easier access to a green card.
Who knows -- probably somewhere in the middle between ADHD and bipolar. The lows I've experienced haven't been that bad since starting 5-HTP, and it would fit the diagnostic criteria more for cyclothymia than bipolar.
Here's the deal. . . I feel great with who I am, felt good before, but feel in some senses I was inhibited before learning this degree of knowledge. Self esteem is not tied to this.
Some people see the world as ultimate complexity, some people see it as ultimate simplicity. I fall in the former camp.
For instance, I sucked at any formalized education system, namely high school and college. Grades were never a strong suit, but I could understand anything if I put enough effort and was interested in it enough. With minimized anxiety, stable moods, I now have the ability to pursue further what my ambitions were in the past, and this means a hell of a lot.
Sure, maybe I'd be O.K. with a combination of Paxil / Wellbutrin / Depakote, but not at my best. Or, I could cut most of it it out, stick with a multi-vitamin, fish oils, and most of the stuff would be fine too. Or, not do anything at all (because doing something about a problem would make you a hypochondriac) and continue to live life, make behavioral changes, but never have the opportunities to truly pursue one's dreams.
Exercise makes an extreme difference -- if I had the time on a daily basis, it would cut the list in half, as a minimum.
"Natural" does mean dick! I only offer these opinions as mere personal experiences, not that it is necessarily the right route to go, but merely to give back knowledge to the people on the process and what various results of each step were -- not to replicate the equation.
Believe me, it took forever, like huge research. . . A few beers has a great effect, but anything more causes drunkenness, and more highs and lows.
Pot never worked out that well for me -- just made me stupid, too mellow and low, although it works for a lot of people with racing minds.
I completely agree with you, just because it's "natural", doesn't mean it's safe. There aren't any herbs in my regimen, other than ginkgo biloba -- but anything in excess causes problems.
If I don't take the regimen for a day, no biggie. I've missed a day, but probably wouldn't want to miss two days or the mood swings and anxiety would probably perk up mildly again. With treating using EPA / DHA instead of a mood stabilizer such as Depakote / Epival / Divalproex Sodium, I find it more of a long-term effect, not like if I miss a dose I go off the wall.
I've had the vitamins / minerals reviewed with a naturopath, done some basic bloodwork, etc., but most of the stuff is benign in the doses I'm taking.
The medical system in Canada is far from ideal. Actually seeing a specialist, let alone one who cares, takes forever, and in the end, they don't seem objective to all of the information.
My experience with this is as follows. . . Went back to my doctor to renew a prescription of Paxil that he didn't fill, as he was too busy to make the initial appointment within a two-month period, but he found the dose too low, and not an "effective dose" -- textbook thinking. I mentioned it addressed the anxiety, but left me feeling numb and dopey. Went on Effexor, made it completely worse, didn't leave the house for about two weeks. Painstakingly switched back to Paxil, went through the withdrawal effects of Effexor, including nasty dizzy spells.
My doctor is aware of the vitamin and supplement regimen, and in the last appointment, finally seemed supportive of it. Obviously, as an M.D., anything more than the R.D.I. or R.D.A. is beyond what anyone needs. For instance, I occasionally take an additional vitamin B6 supplement for a few days when my wrists flare up with more acute carpal tunnel, kicks it right in the butt. This could be considered a vitamin deficiency, but from a conventional wisdom, anything above the RDA is a waste or harmful.
To be honest, the Paxil and SSRIs made the mood swings much worse rather than better, there is much documentation on SSRIs causing rapid cycling. In excess, 5-HTP and Tyrosine can probably cause a similar effect, but not to the same degree, due to saturation of the enzymes that convert them from precursors to actual neurotransmitters. (Both Vitamin B6-dependent enzymes.)
With exercise every three days, including weight training and cardio, I've never felt better and more stable in my life.
I used to take acidophilus at one time -- my naturopath initially prescribed it to get over the hump and get the digestive system back in order.
Other than that, I've been taking a broad-spectrum digestive enzyme that helps with the nasty meals that none of us should eat! IB-ZYME from Alpha Sciences Laboratories seems to be of great assistance occasionally.
Makes complete sense the tie to sleep apnea.
Low blood oxygen levels would be my highest worry for you. Aerobic exercise and somewhat of a supplement regimen may work, only trial-and-error will tell. Ginkgo biloba increases circulation. A drug called "Hydergine" may be of interest, as it is a vasodilator, meaning it dilates the arteries, specifically those to the brain. If you have nasty allergies or sinus / nasal congestion, it's contraindicated, as it makes congestion worse. It can be purchased at www.qhi.co.uk.
I also was exercising every 3rd day with great results, but fell off the bandwagon recently with a nasty cold flu -- probably starting back up this week. Exercise is the best antidepressant.
Maybe adding the mystery meat increased your levels of fatty acids, and it is more of a fatty acid deficiency? There are various products that may be worth toying with, but I'd try the EPA / DHA combo in a high dose before any of them. The CLA may be worth testing for a 4-day period for the fog, the results are very quick if this is the ailment.
Definitely the Tyrosine would make sense in the morning. Even 1000mg or more may be warranted -- play with the dosage, and see how it does for you.
I felt a personal need to reply to this posting, as it mentions many things I have tweaked within the last six months. Throughout my life, most of my symptoms persisted of bouts of hyperactivity per day including super-human concentration, followed by huge crashes and lapses of concentration, and the complete ability to think, with extreme anxiety thrown into the equation. Just within the last year have I fully noticed the mood swings, and how low I could get in the winter months, being in Canada around Toronto area -- similar in geographic location to Detroit and Buffalo.
1998 - added the minor things, like multi-vitamin, extra B vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, ginkgo biloba, this was about 4 years ago, and these additions just barely helped me cope. Sleep was still a great issue, with it normally taking two hours to go to sleep at night
1999 - added melatonin to the mix, nightly took 3mg, switched jobs, quit working at a systems integrator (tech work, systems and network support on the road) to join a chain of long-term care homes as their regional technical support
Fall 2001 - started seeing a "naturopath", drastically changed diet, followed "Blood Type Diet", recommended from the book "Eat Right for Your Type", amazing results, super high energy (probably a manic episode), but still the anxiety and sleeping issues persisted, added Alpha Lipoic Acid to assist the liver and as a potent antioxidant
Winter 2001 - added 5-HTP, fairly high doses, around 500mg per day
Spring 2002 - cut down on the 5-HTP, limited it to 200mg per day, added Piracetam, thinking clearer than ever
March 2002 - went to a corporate conference, ate all of those sweets and stuff that they give you that weren't on my diet, experienced the worst brain fog in my life, saw my chiropractor the next day for an adjustment, got in a conversation about feeling "fogged out", he suggested CLA, amazing results, eliminated the fog!
Summer 2002 - cut down 5-HTP to 150mg per day, added L-Tyrosine to the mix, it gave me more of my personality back, strongly recommended over stimulants, as it helps long-term even after cessation of usage
Fall 2002 - blood type diet slips really hard, the 5 pints a day are getting in the way of it. . . at this point, not taking any 5-HTP or melatonin, flying really high, going out all of the time, getting 4 - 6 hours sleep per night, have never thought clearer in my life. Started further extensive reading on 5-HTP, Tyrosine, mood disorders, ADD / ADHD, bipolar, etc., had inklings I was cyclothymic, a mild version of bipolar disorder
December 2002 - had been going downhill for the last bit of November, honestly thought there was a more serious problem, anxiety flared up again, saw a doctor, started on Paxil at 10mg per day, zapped all of the life out of me, dropped it down to 5mg per day, ceased taking 5-HTP due to concerns of potential serotinin syndrome or overload with SSRI
Christmas 2002 - crashed out completely, nasty family Christmas sucked all of the life out of me, I had been going downhill for the month of December
Mid January 2003 - Paxil was not performing for the depression, I had since stopped taking anything to change mood, such as Tyrosine, 5-HTP, started on 750mg per day of Depakote/Epival, took a real edge off, minimized long-term mood swings and mood / energy level changes in the day
February 2003 - the first doctor didn't agree I should be on Paxil, as it didn't address the attention symptoms, so he cut it out, and added Effexor SR in it's place, an SSNRI (Selective Serotonin Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor) at 37.5 per day for a week, and then 75mg for three weeks
Late February 2003 - feeling so flatlined it's not even funny, no desire for anything remotely social, have been at home now for two weeks straight not moving off the couch, getting up only when desperately needed for work, not returning any phone messages, voice mail box full!
March 2003 - recontinued the Paxil at 5mg, much more personality back, sold my house, moved back in with my parents (lovely...