You're right - women would probably stop themselves up with wads of leaves or grass, or maybe bunched up toilet paper if they were feeling fancy.
I used to work for a marketing research company.
Out of curiosity, did you just have to check your soul to work there, or turn it over completely? My money is on the latter, but if I knew, it wouldn't be gambling, and it wouldn't be fun.
What we need is a system where a governmental body can set a maximum price on all consumer goods, and then use their powers to force the various companies to continue to produce said goods in the event that the set price provides no incentive to produce the good.
Or do you have a better idea? I'm not too sure mine will work, and I'm tapped.
Interesting idea for a political party. You know what, though? You oughta have some content before you get troll for traffic.
Just to throw a few pennies at you, any political organization that doesn't make some sort of room for business isn't really going to get terribly far. Business is a natural organizational tool for people, you know. I'm not saying replicate the current climate, obviously, but you can't be straight up opposed and successful at the same time. It's just not possible.
The key thing to remember here is that businesspeople are people.
I'm working on that right now - making sure I've got compatible licensing on the dependencies, and documenting. I expect to release it by the end of this month, but that may slide if my project gets hairy. The site will be in my sig when I get it done.
Ah, so no, you can't support the opinion. That would have been simpler to say.
There's definitely a weird prejudice against Javascript, and I think you've expressed it perfectly. I spent a lot of time recently defending it, professionally speaking. Most people that told me it was useless didn't even realize that it's a fully object oriented language. The prototyping throws people expecting classes way the hell off.
In the end, though, any language with closures is going to be one mighty powerful tool.
I disagree. Unless you're developing for fun, you need lots of users and/or transactions to justify the extra expense required to implement AJAX.
I don't find this request model (I hate the term AJAX) to be expensive to develop, or to run. Took me a week to make the necessary framework level changes and test them, and now it's a matter of setting a few attributes on my custom tags. (I'm using J2EE and a custom framework right now)
Okay, but that's nearly tautological. The problem is to determine when a "desktopish interaction model" is appropriate.
I should have stated this more clearly - it's user driven. My current project is replacing some old desktop apps into an integrated web application. The choices were made before I started, and using this architecture lets me satisfy everyone. Obviously, it's a case by case basis, but if the user is expecting things to be highly interactive, and the project is a web app, then this is the way to go.
If the project isn't customer driven, then I guess it's really just a personal decision. If the system isn't intended to be highly interactive, why bother?
Whether you "want" to reload the page isn't nearly as important as whether you can justify the expense of avoiding reloads. Lots of people "want" to use AJAX. That doesn't make it a good idea.
Again, I disagree with it being expensive. There was some upfront work in my case, but that's over now. Things are actually simpler to develop overall, because individual interactions have very few dependencies now, as opposed to traditional web development.
In the end, of course people will misapply these technologies. That will be true of everything that will ever be invented, though.
So apparently the thousands (or more?) of us out here doing it right now should stop and wait for not only a standardization effort, but implementations as well?
I think we'll be just fine dealing with incompatibilities as they arise.
You're almost there, but the number of users has nothing to do with it. You use it when it's appropriate to support a desktopish interaction model, and you don't want to reload the page every time.
Also, I'd clean up the terminology. You don't use it for web sites. You use it for applications.
Anything to support that opinion? I mean, it's pretty damn sweeping. I suspect you don't even really understand Javascript - which is nothing unusual for a detractor.
At least give downloading Linux distributions as an example. The one you gave was tortured so effectively I have to wonder if you work for the White House.
What exactly is the objection to signing up for the account, anyway? Is it the typical "entertainment wants to be free" mindset of Slashdot, or something deeper? It can't be privacy, because false information is accepted.
Good reply! Your intelligence level is obvious to all.
I'll throw in my two cents here - the cartoon was pretty stupid, too. It was made to placate stoners and losers staring at MTV for their latest pop culture fix. It's no surprise that remaking a turd resulted in a bigger, shinier turd. After all, the nature of shit is such - you can dress it up, polish it, gold plate it, encrust it in precious stones, and box it elegantly. It's still shit.
Let's end this misnomer once and for all. Japanese so-called RPGs are nothing of the sort. As a genre, they should be called MIMs (Mildly Interactive Movies) because the role playing involved is as deep as every other character based game in history.
You're right - women would probably stop themselves up with wads of leaves or grass, or maybe bunched up toilet paper if they were feeling fancy.
I used to work for a marketing research company.
Out of curiosity, did you just have to check your soul to work there, or turn it over completely? My money is on the latter, but if I knew, it wouldn't be gambling, and it wouldn't be fun.
Pssst... it's not the earpiece.
(I'm kidding. I just can't resist a big fat meatball over the plate.)
What we need is a system where a governmental body can set a maximum price on all consumer goods, and then use their powers to force the various companies to continue to produce said goods in the event that the set price provides no incentive to produce the good.
Or do you have a better idea? I'm not too sure mine will work, and I'm tapped.
Since you jumped on first post, I'll just say this:
Sarah Silverman is freakin hot. I'd pump her six ways to sunday. Oh yeah.
Throw me a nice off-topic mod, I guess. I deserve it.
Interesting idea for a political party. You know what, though? You oughta have some content before you get troll for traffic.
Just to throw a few pennies at you, any political organization that doesn't make some sort of room for business isn't really going to get terribly far. Business is a natural organizational tool for people, you know. I'm not saying replicate the current climate, obviously, but you can't be straight up opposed and successful at the same time. It's just not possible.
The key thing to remember here is that businesspeople are people.
The 'free market' --in this case, everyone stuck on Microsoft proprietary formats--IS NOT FREE IN ANY WAY.
This is slightly exaggerrated (I spelled that wrong, I'm sure)
Granted the freedom is reduced, but it's increased in other ways as well, as compared to alternate platforms.
My name really is Jay, and I really am heinous. Do I pass your test?
I'm working on that right now - making sure I've got compatible licensing on the dependencies, and documenting. I expect to release it by the end of this month, but that may slide if my project gets hairy. The site will be in my sig when I get it done.
Ah, so no, you can't support the opinion. That would have been simpler to say.
There's definitely a weird prejudice against Javascript, and I think you've expressed it perfectly. I spent a lot of time recently defending it, professionally speaking. Most people that told me it was useless didn't even realize that it's a fully object oriented language. The prototyping throws people expecting classes way the hell off.
In the end, though, any language with closures is going to be one mighty powerful tool.
I disagree. Unless you're developing for fun, you need lots of users and/or transactions to justify the extra expense required to implement AJAX.
I don't find this request model (I hate the term AJAX) to be expensive to develop, or to run. Took me a week to make the necessary framework level changes and test them, and now it's a matter of setting a few attributes on my custom tags. (I'm using J2EE and a custom framework right now)
Okay, but that's nearly tautological. The problem is to determine when a "desktopish interaction model" is appropriate.
I should have stated this more clearly - it's user driven. My current project is replacing some old desktop apps into an integrated web application. The choices were made before I started, and using this architecture lets me satisfy everyone. Obviously, it's a case by case basis, but if the user is expecting things to be highly interactive, and the project is a web app, then this is the way to go.
If the project isn't customer driven, then I guess it's really just a personal decision. If the system isn't intended to be highly interactive, why bother?
Whether you "want" to reload the page isn't nearly as important as whether you can justify the expense of avoiding reloads. Lots of people "want" to use AJAX. That doesn't make it a good idea.
Again, I disagree with it being expensive. There was some upfront work in my case, but that's over now. Things are actually simpler to develop overall, because individual interactions have very few dependencies now, as opposed to traditional web development.
In the end, of course people will misapply these technologies. That will be true of everything that will ever be invented, though.
So apparently the thousands (or more?) of us out here doing it right now should stop and wait for not only a standardization effort, but implementations as well?
I think we'll be just fine dealing with incompatibilities as they arise.
You're almost there, but the number of users has nothing to do with it. You use it when it's appropriate to support a desktopish interaction model, and you don't want to reload the page every time.
Also, I'd clean up the terminology. You don't use it for web sites. You use it for applications.
Javascript is just a kludge -- and so is AJAX.?
Anything to support that opinion? I mean, it's pretty damn sweeping. I suspect you don't even really understand Javascript - which is nothing unusual for a detractor.
Just so we're clear, is this a justification for mass piracy, or were you just being pedantic to shoot me down? I can't tell from your post.
In any case, lending doesn't conflict with my morals. Mass piracy does.
Sometimes the jokes just right themselves
And just as often, they wrong others.
When one friend asks to borrow it, I let him have it.
When 600 people I don't actually know ask to make a copy, I start thinking maybe the analogy doesn't work at all.
Thanks for trying, though. That's one more weak rationalization I'll stick in my file.
At least give downloading Linux distributions as an example. The one you gave was tortured so effectively I have to wonder if you work for the White House.
What exactly is the objection to signing up for the account, anyway? Is it the typical "entertainment wants to be free" mindset of Slashdot, or something deeper? It can't be privacy, because false information is accepted.
Good reply! Your intelligence level is obvious to all.
I'll throw in my two cents here - the cartoon was pretty stupid, too. It was made to placate stoners and losers staring at MTV for their latest pop culture fix. It's no surprise that remaking a turd resulted in a bigger, shinier turd. After all, the nature of shit is such - you can dress it up, polish it, gold plate it, encrust it in precious stones, and box it elegantly. It's still shit.
Someone's got woman issues.
From my parent's basement in Wyoming, I stab at thee.
I'd link to the comic, but it's not there anymore. I'll link to this one, instead.
Arrogance gets me hot. Can I get a blowjob? I promise to tap you on the top of the head before I shoot.
Anyone want to reply to this post with an approximate count of the justifications for using software that wasn't paid for?
How many were weak variations on 'I wouldn't have paid for it anyway, so they lose nothing?' chestnut?
Let's end this misnomer once and for all. Japanese so-called RPGs are nothing of the sort. As a genre, they should be called MIMs (Mildly Interactive Movies) because the role playing involved is as deep as every other character based game in history.
The mind boggles at the concept of something too 'dorky' for Japan. As a country, they embody the term.
Probably get slain by Japanese fanboys now, and other various apologists. Oh well.